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As a complete novice in these matters I have been put off updating my ROM by suggestions that, if all goes wrong, you are left with an expensive brick. I appreciate that warranties will be voided but is there are absolutely no way back? Are there no specialists that can restore - obviously at a cost?
Can anybody offer some reassurance?
Thanks
RaymondScrott said:
As a complete novice in these matters I have been put off updating my ROM by suggestions that, if all goes wrong, you are left with an expensive brick. I appreciate that warranties will be voided but is there are absolutely no way back? Are there no specialists that can restore - obviously at a cost?
Can anybody offer some reassurance?
Thanks
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I haven't seen anybody who can read read "brick" thier phone. There have been many noobs who have caused problems, but nothing that cannot be fixed.
HDUser has spent a long time (too long maybe ) writing wiki articles so flashing your phone is as easy as possible. Just make sure you read and take your time and you'll be fine
If you need to return your phone for warranty (for other reasons than flashing problems), just make sure you don't damage the USB and you can revert it so orange will never know
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If you need to return your phone for warranty (for other reasons than flashing problems), just make sure you don't damage the USB and you can revert it so orange will never know
Dave
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Yeah but if you HSPL it, won't that void the warranty anyways?
I heard USPL is less stable but doesn't void the warranty.
I'm another person that is scared of flashing as i wouldn't even know what to do just in case something went wrong.
Psygnosis84 said:
Yeah but if you HSPL it, won't that void the warranty anyways?
I heard USPL is less stable but doesn't void the warranty.
I'm another person that is scared of flashing as i wouldn't even know what to do just in case something went wrong.
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The first post of the Hard SPL thread has this section "How to reflash Stock/Shipped SPL - STEP BY STEP - FOR WARRANTY REASONS ONLY!".
Hard SPL is better for beginners as it is permenant (unless you follow the above), whereas you may forget to use USPL everytime.
As I said before, not much goes wrong if you just read the instructions carefully (I need to make mskip write a Blackstone newbie guide ). There are plenty of Devs on hand to help you out if something does go wrong.
Ta
Dave
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I'm another person that is scared of flashing as i wouldn't even know what to do just in case something went wrong.
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Then don't. It's that simple.
lol, it had been 2 years since flashing my xda11i, the day i got my touch i flashed it about 4 times!! its easy, and very little can go wrong, there is a really good tutorial on here somehwere, its in someones sig.
I have tried a lot of things, and I finally updated the rom, and it still isn't working. It just keeps coming up with the same error, "No Radio."
Is there anything anybody can suggest to help fix my problem? Thank you very much...
I also have a thread on ppcgeeks.com:
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=71643
Thank you so much!
Have you flashed a radio? You need to read a FAQ on flashing.
lol.
she doesnt need to read a faq.
her radio disappeared from her phone.
she didnt mod it either.
we tried reflashing the stock rom,
and she said it loaded, but it did the same thing pretty much.
im personally stumped about this one.
anyone have any ideas??
If you haven't flashed any custom roms nor unlocked it, I'd bring it to the store and see what they have to say.
Spalla said:
If you haven't flashed any custom roms nor unlocked it, I'd bring it to the store and see what they have to say.
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If you read the other thread she linked to,
that describes what we have done to it already,
and more description of where she stands with the phone,
you'd realize her dad gave her the phone.
It's an older phone with no insurance or warranty.
Meaning that would do her no good to take it to the store.
I sent her over here because there's usually more advanced developers over here and I would have thought they'd know what to do.
I just didn't think it was at all possible to have the radio just disappear like it did to her. VERY STRANGE!
Especially with no modding...
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I had a quick read through what you have tried so far... Have you unlocked the device with ImCokeMan's unlocker. Then you will be able to try non standard roms and radios, might help.
My only other though is that the radio hardware is stuffed which means you are out of luck.
I would take the phone apart and carefully and clean out any dust etc that has gathered in the device (a very long shot but you never know).
Good luck
njakobs said:
I had a quick read through what you have tried so far... Have you unlocked the device with ImCokeMan's unlocker. Then you will be able to try non standard roms and radios, might help.
My only other though is that the radio hardware is stuffed which means you are out of luck.
I would take the phone apart and carefully and clean out any dust etc that has gathered in the device (a very long shot but you never know).
Good luck
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hmmmm, never would have thought about that.
and what does it mean stuffed?
is that the term I should use to research that.
This is the first I've ever heard of that...
And no, we didn't try unlocking.
I was thinking that the stock rom would have a better chance at making the radio stick versus a custom radio. but it is worth a try.
Unlock, flash to custom radio, flash to custom ROM.
derekwilkinson said:
Unlock, flash to custom radio, flash to custom ROM.
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I found some older threads about this just now,
most of them gave up on trying to fix this.
And one said it was definitely a hardware issue. :/
codybear said:
hmmmm, never would have thought about that.
and what does it mean stuffed?
is that the term I should use to research that.
This is the first I've ever heard of that...
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Stuffed, broken, busted, fubar'ed etc
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Stuffed, broken, busted, fubar'ed etc
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Ahhh,
Well Thanks for that info,
that's what I was thinking,
and what was said in the old threads I found.
I'm just going to send her my vogue.
Don't need it anymore....And it's part of the Karma thing PPCGeeks has.
I just HSPL my new T-Mobile 2.08 US HD2.
Worked soooo smooth. Thanks for that. Now the tricky part, I did not read detailed enough that the rom I flashed was a 1.66 based one.
now the HD2 is dead, no powerup, bootloader mode, reset or chargeing led.
Any way to safe it or back to t-mobile?
Thanks Guys
=( omg.... i was impatient too... I was downlaoding all these roms but remembered i didnt install the new HSPL thing.. and then i read the posts -_- sigh.. sorry man
I am so sorry man. Your best bet is to hope you can find a station where they'll work some factory reset magic on there...
Yeah. Sorry to hear that. I wish the SPL program would warn the user or refuse to install if it detected an old 1.66.
No brother
YWell Brother u and me both have to play the old hood wink on tmobile and play the it just died face so we can get a new one. Fortunatly we have 14 days if you kept your receipt, to take it back and nag saying it just shut of for no reason. Its hell of bricked, even HTC would have to completely take it apart to fix it, so no trace of anything would ever come back. the bad thing is their sold out everywhere till Tuesday or Wednesday. But ill wait its a bad ass phone. woooo! where do you live dude? in vegas?
I have read that you can microwave it for a few seconds and that kills it stone dead. No way they can tell what you flashed.
This is a very extreme method and an absolute LAST RESORT!!!!
pablo11 said:
I have read that you can microwave it for a few seconds and that kills it stone dead. No way they can tell what you flashed.
This is a very extreme method and an absolute LAST RESORT!!!!
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That's.. insane.
madman_nyc said:
I just HSPL my new T-Mobile 2.08 US HD2.
Worked soooo smooth. Thanks for that. Now the tricky part, I did not read detailed enough that the rom I flashed was a 1.66 based one.
now the HD2 is dead, no powerup, bootloader mode, reset or chargeing led.
Any way to safe it or back to t-mobile?
Thanks Guys
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remove your battery for 3 minutes and put it again and try ti lunch boot loader
Have you tried the SD card flash method.
You need to copy the original Tmob ROM file to your blank SD card, rename it to leoimg.nbh (i Think), and then try start in bootloader.
madman_nyc said:
I just HSPL my new T-Mobile 2.08 US HD2.
Worked soooo smooth. Thanks for that. Now the tricky part, I did not read detailed enough that the rom I flashed was a 1.66 based one.
now the HD2 is dead, no powerup, bootloader mode, reset or chargeing led.
Any way to safe it or back to t-mobile?
Thanks Guys
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Which hspl did you flash and which rom?
the new one for 1024 T-Mobile 2.08.
Thanks for all replies,
For the Microvawe version, if you smash it with a hammer, has the same effect. Go Green.
No kidding, I ask for a repair solution not a Brick it more.
Bootloader is not working at all, so no SD way as well. And a rom based on 1.66. Smart as I am, I deleted the file.
Like I said, HSPL was great. Was still working after that.
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For the Microvawe version, if you smash it with a hammer, has the same effect. Go Green.
No kidding, I ask for a repair solution not a Brick it more.
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I laughed my ass off so hard at that comment!
So I got it exchanged, I did the Hard spl and its fine so far. Still working.
Dont want to brick it again,
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?
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This is why I'm choosing to wait a little bit before jumping in and flashing my TMOUS HD2. I don't have the 'cajones' to be a guinea pig! I'm waiting until everything plays out and the process is tried and proven safe.
For now I'm enjoying the stock TMOUS Rom, and applying tweaks here and there. I'm running into bugs and annoyances here and there, but don't feel a strong urge to flash roms just yet...especially when so many others are having issues!
Yeah, when it comes to the software side of this phone, I just take it all in with the regular rom and see what I REALLY want out of it as far as options and whatnot. THEN I get to the rom goodies after a lot of review and feedback.
Hardware I'll dissect the guts if I have to anyday though.
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Yeah, when it comes to the software side of this phone, I just take it all in with the regular rom and see what I REALLY want out of it as far as options and whatnot. THEN I get to the rom goodies after a lot of review and feedback.
Hardware I'll dissect the guts if I have to anyday though.
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Yes, but still no answer for me ;-(
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?
madman_nyc said:
Yes, but still no answer for me ;-(
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?
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I think you'd be much better off browsing all the thread titles in the ROM Development section looking for a rom that is [GER] and [2.08+]/TMOUS based
As long as it's been taken off a TMOUS device, it will work on your TMOUS device
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the new one for 1024 T-Mobile 2.08.
Thanks for all replies,
For the Microvawe version, if you smash it with a hammer, has the same effect. Go Green.
No kidding, I ask for a repair solution not a Brick it more.
Bootloader is not working at all, so no SD way as well. And a rom based on 1.66. Smart as I am, I deleted the file.
Like I said, HSPL was great. Was still working after that.
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he he. I know it's hilarious. As I said, absolutely last resort if you are taking it back for warranty cos if they find any spl other than factory one your warranty is void straight off the bat. Nice to see you got a replacement without problems.
I just read that advice from another post here on the forum and it is way extreme!!!
As posted above - any rom based on tmous original roms should work. Good luck
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So I got it exchanged, I did the Hard spl and its fine so far. Still working.
Dont want to brick it again,
Is there any cooked German Rom that I can use on a USA T-Mobile HD2 based on 2.08?
To make my HD2 in German language?
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YOU might use BSB Tweaks and choose manila language in the menu.
I bet it is based on the tool that downloads the needed manila files from the internet.
Try searching for the tool here on xda or use BSB tweak (but there is a solution to get it fully working german!)
I flashed laurentius29 rom to my tmous leo.
Result - expensive paperweight.
Already exchanged it in tmob store telling them it just died. I've had it for just two days.
Seriously! Don't attempt to flash non-tmous roms to your tmous phones.
I thought they are fos saying you can brick your phone doing that.
I thought I knew what I was doing with my quite long winmo history. (Samsung i730, Kaiser, Rafael and Leo just recently)
do you have hspl installed?
Doesn't matter as non-TMOUS ROMs won't work on a TMOUS HD2
gees.....better buy openline HTC HD2...
Just to make sure:
Flashing a TMOUS ROM to a NON-TMOUS device won't brick your device?
With Hspl you should be able to recover... ROMS dont touch the bootloader. And without Hspl you wouldnt be able to flash..
It is not the fault of his ROM but your choice of a ROM not compatible. I think his base is 1.72 or 1.66 and with drivers from this same build. I would ask him to be sure.
Make sure you flash a ROM with 2.10 base and you should be ok.
Sorry to hear about your device but at least you were lucky enough to be in the US and they changed it out quickly for you.
Hi Stank0,
I'm very sorry to read this and will make an anouncement immidiatly that the rom isn't compatible with the T-Mob US model.
Sorry to ask you as you got damage enough but can you tell me the procedure you followed flashing the rom?
Thank you.
Stank0 said:
I flashed laurentius29 rom to my tmous leo.
Result - expensive paperweight.
Already exchanged it in tmob store telling them it just died. I've had it for just two days.
Seriously! Don't attempt to flash non-tmous roms to your tmous phones.
I thought they are fos saying you can brick your phone doing that.
I thought I knew what I was doing with my quite long winmo history. (Samsung i730, Kaiser, Rafael and Leo just recently)
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Indeed that's true far as I know but I realy like to know how Stank0 bricked it to avoid this in future.
snipey said:
With Hspl you should be able to recover... ROMS dont touch the bootloader. And without Hspl you wouldnt be able to flash..
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After I flashed HSPL2, I tried a few ROMs. 2x NRG's and Kumar's. They all worked OK but I wanted to try yours bcz I used to have it for quite a while on my Rafael. (before I switched 2 NRG for some reason I don't remember).
I always flash over old flash without going through all the "necessary" steps and it almost always worked good. I went through flashing stock first only when something went wrong. (very rarely)
So I did the same thing with your ROM flashing it over NRG's. (Via USB)
Obviously, my poor tmous LEO couldn't handle all that "Ultimate Power" and after the flash was succesfully finished, it never started up.
No light, no sound.
First I thought I'll just get into a bootloader and reflash.
But after I found out that I can't get even bootloader up, I realized I'm pretty much screwed.
The phone didn't react to ANYTHING.
When I plugged it up to my laptop, it tried to install new driver for it but of course unsuccessfully.
I've had quite a hard time to find a store with HD2 in stock. Apparently they sell better than fresh rolls.
Oh by the way Laurentius26, I don't blame you for it at all. It was my fault not listening what wise people say. From now on, if it doesn't say "TMOUS COMPATIBILE", I'm not touching it.
And that what I recommend others to do too.
Unless you want to live dangerously and have a nice but quite expensive paperweight.
Laurentius26 said:
Hi Stank0,
I'm very sorry to read this and will make an anouncement immidiatly that the rom isn't compatible with the T-Mob US model.
Sorry to ask you as you got damage enough but can you tell me the procedure you followed flashing the rom?
Thank you.
Indeed that's true far as I know but I realy like to know how Stank0 bricked it to avoid this in future.
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Sorry to hear about your device but at least you were lucky enough to be in the US and they changed it out quickly for you
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Sorry too
but if i`m not wrong the brand new TMOUS Leo costs only 199.99 $ in th US vs 600 in Europ
Yes TMOUS Leo costs 199.99 $ in th US with 2 years contract!!!
HTC HD2 in England is for free with contract!!!
So....
yeah it does. With 2 yrs contract. I paid $450 + tax however. No contract.
gf7800 said:
Sorry too
but if i`m not wrong the brand new TMOUS Leo costs only 199.99 $ in th US vs 600 in Europ
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So let me get this straight, you flash hspl on your device to flash custom ROMs. If you brick a phone, is it completely useless forever in eternity? (besides being a paperweight) Is there anyway to recover it at all? At all, at all?
Hi Stank0,
Thanks for letting me know.
Flashing a rom shouldn't brick your device like that, even if the flash went all ok or not it should always be possible
to reflash (recover) as mentioned earlier that flashing a rom doesn't touch the bootloader.
Dit you try to take out the battery for half an hour and then try to get in bootloader?
Anyway I'm very sorry your device is bricked .
To make sure I've updated my rom threads with a warning to avoid this in future.
Stank0 said:
After I flashed HSPL2, I tried a few ROMs. 2x NRG's and Kumar's. They all worked OK but I wanted to try yours bcz I used to have it for quite a while on my Rafael. (before I switched 2 NRG for some reason I don't remember).
I always flash over old flash without going through all the "necessary" steps and it almost always worked good. I went through flashing stock first only when something went wrong. (very rarely)
So I did the same thing with your ROM flashing it over NRG's. (Via USB)
Obviously, my poor tmous LEO couldn't handle all that "Ultimate Power" and after the flash was succesfully finished, it never started up.
No light, no sound.
First I thought I'll just get into a bootloader and reflash.
But after I found out that I can't get even bootloader up, I realized I'm pretty much screwed.
The phone didn't react to ANYTHING.
When I plugged it up to my laptop, it tried to install new driver for it but of course unsuccessfully.
I've had quite a hard time to find a store with HD2 in stock. Apparently they sell better than fresh rolls.
Oh by the way Laurentius26, I don't blame you for it at all. It was my fault not listening what wise people say. From now on, if it doesn't say "TMOUS COMPATIBILE", I'm not touching it.
And that what I recommend others to do too.
Unless you want to live dangerously and have a nice but quite expensive paperweight.
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this is bad, im sorry for your loss
though flashing a rom doesnt screw up the bootloader
Problem is T-Mob US model has different NAND.
XDA opened two section as well as the hardware is different.
* HD2 ROM Development
* T-Mob USA HD2 ROM Development
I have no T-Mob USA model and I'm not 100% sure if the device is bricked because
of flashing the rom so it's better to take precautionary measures to avoid this in future.
bbezja1 said:
this is bad, im sorry for your loss
though flashing a rom doesnt screw up the bootloader
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It sounds more like coincidence.
I can't imagine Leo includes bootleader in his rom, so it shouldn't have effected the spl at all.
Thanks Fards,
Indeed there's no SPL (bootloader) in the rom so if a user flashed HSPL first and then the rom it doesn't touch the bootloader and it should be always possible to get in bootmodus after a bad flash and reflash the rom.
It worried and made me doubt for 2 days but this makes no sense the device is bricked because of flashing the rom it must be coinsidence.
There are enough stickies how to flash a rom and I've included rom flash instructions in my rom thread so I'm going to remove the warning.
@Stank0, I feel sorry your device is bricked but I hope you understand my decission.
Grtz Leo
fards said:
It sounds more like coincidence.
I can't imagine Leo includes bootleader in his rom, so it shouldn't have effected the spl at all.
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lemonspeakers said:
So let me get this straight, you flash hspl on your device to flash custom ROMs. If you brick a phone, is it completely useless forever in eternity? (besides being a paperweight) Is there anyway to recover it at all? At all, at all?
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re-bump. can anyone answer this?
I agree with everyone else. It wasn't the flash-it was the flasher. He didn't follow the basics. Wrong rom, flashed repeatedly while bypassing vital steps. It wasn't bricked-he got jumpy. He shouldn't flash if he can't follow simple tutorials and stickies.
Hello all! I'm so sorry if you feel like you've been seeing this topic everywhere and I have too, except for one thing.. I haven't gotten one, clear answer to it.
My phone had been acting horribly the past month: freezing, then frozen after battery pull at the stick together sign, then loading up again, then freezing. It would only work if I could be quick enough to turn Sense off. I love Sense though. and for the few months before that I'd had it, it had been working perfectly with Kumar's Premium ROM. Now, I have already received a new("like new") HD2 from T-Mobile because it was still covered under warranty, HOWEVER, since I had flashed many custom ROMs, I had to take HSPL off. I did this by flashing the stock TMobile upgrade (2.13) from their website from my SD card.
My question is: Is there anything else I have to make sure to take off the phone other than HSPL and custom ROM? When I go to the Bootloader, it shows that there is no HSPL and only SPL 1.42something. Is there anything else that can cause me to lose the warranty once they get the phone itself, because from what the lady told me, if they determine that the phone isn't under warranty, they can charge a pretty hefty amount.
if bootloader really shows spl
1.42something
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then you don't have a tmous, you have
a regular hd2.
you need to double check that before you go any further.
Now this is gonna be hilarious if he got a refurb unit from T-mo, that somebody had previously flashed a euro ROM/spl on!
lol, and of course tmo would say 'oh no, that couldnt happen, its YOUR fault', hehe
samsamuel said:
if bootloader really shows spl
then you don't have a tmous, you have
a regular hd2.
you need to double check that before you go any further.
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Sorry for the confusion..now I feel dumb. But no, the SPL is: 2.10.0000
lol.
it should be fine then.
if you wanna double check, download the 2.13 rom from tmous website and flash that via usb.
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it should be fine then.
if you wanna double check, download the 2.13 rom from tmous website and flash that via usb.
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Is that necessary if I did that through SD card first? I'm only being a pain on this post because the phone won't even stay on long enough for me to do/check anything so I wanted to ask if there was anything else. I think I might just send it back and see what happens.!
Thank you all
no, not necessary. the 2.10.0000 is the important part. it will be fine.
Thank you very much for the help
Case closed and now so is this thread