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Well, I guess I will contribute with something...
There are way too many kitchens out there (all scattered in the different device forums). Now, since this is "Chef Central", I figured that we needed the kitchens for the Chefs to cook. Without further ado, I present you with... the kitchens.
[highlight]PPCKitchen.org:[/highlight]
Easy to use for the beginner...
http://www.ppckitchen.org
[highlight]Ivanmmj SuperJust Kitchen (thanks +QuePPC and kokotas):[/highlight]
Multi-Device Kitchen
http://justkitchen.info/main/index.php
[highlight]osKitchen:[/highlight]
New kitchen based on bepe's work (thanks mwalt2)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=628948
[highlight]Ervius Visual Kitchen (EVK)thanks mwalt2)[/highlight]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=469420
[highlight]Wallaby (Peter Poelman):[/highlight]
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=219037
[highlight]Blue Angel:[/highlight]
Latest: 28230 by sun_dream
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428030
Swampy395 Porting Kitchen
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=587446&highlight=porting
[highlight]Himalaya:[/highlight]
Latest: 28230 by sun_dream
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=519129
[highlight]Wizard:[/highlight]
Not really a single kitchen but xda2_haseeb made a nice guide with links to some kitchens for the Wizard.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=501941
[highlight]Universal: (thanks orb3000)[/highlight]
ROM Kitchen v2.0 by Tomal: Next generation Kitchen for Universal
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=476544
[highlight]Raphael:[/highlight]
Resources and kitchens lumped together by hilaireg
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=582134
[highlight]Polaris:[/highlight]
Not really a single kitchen but cruiserrr made a nice guide with links to some kitchens for the Polaris.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=648171
Now, I am not going to scan the whole site for kitchens, so this is where we all have to pitch in. I know I am missing a few of the multi-device kitchens, but if we all contribute with kitchens for different devices, we can have a nice little resource for many new aspiring chefs...
Let's get cookin'!
Opinions
I decided to make post #2 as an Opinions Page. I will link the posts from each and every one of you that talks good or bad about a kitchen over here.
[highlight]Visual Kitchen[/highlight]
player911
[highlight]Polaris Chef Corner[/highlight]
cruiserrr
One more for the road...
NRGZ28 said:
I think we'll need to neatly catergorize these kitchen collections later on. Maybe we'll them all in the first post of this thread, or we can create another one.
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I can update the first post as needed. I actually left two more posts after that just in case I run into space issues. I am thinking, one or two posts for device specific kitchens and one for generic kitchens. What do you think?
dXsL said:
excellent initiative, tnx!
wouldn't mind more pro's/con's per kitchen but also realize that is subject to personal experience and/or (strong) opinion
so perhaps only mention the pro's?
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+1 on this.
PRO's/CON's can be easily worded such that it isn't considered a personal attack.
I would rather know about the CON's and how to work-around them than spend hours in trial-and-error. If a member decides to select a certain kitchen, at least they know what they are "getting into".
M2C's Worth,
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@egzthunder1:
BTW; if you need extra empty posts near the top of your thread, let me or another moderator know and we'll make it happen.
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+1 on this.
PRO's/CON's can be easily worded such that it isn't considered a personal attack.
I would rather know about the CON's and how to work-around them than spend hours in trial-and-error. If a member decides to select a certain kitchen, at least they know what they are "getting into".
M2C's Worth,
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@egzthunder1:
BTW; if you need extra empty posts near the top of your thread, let me or another moderator know and we'll make it happen.
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Thanks hilaireg, I might have to bother you regarding the extra posts if this grows as much as I fear it will .
As far as the pro/cons... well, we could do this in such a way that only people who have used the kitchens in question can post them in this thread, so they can give their points of view. I personally have had time to play with 3 of the kitchens that I have posted and used a few tools of another one, but I guess I can add this to the first post and you guys let me know what you think:
"If you are going to post a kitchen in this thread, please be kind enough to give your opinions on it (likes, dislikes, hard to use, buggy, best kitchen ever... well, you know what I mean). This way, new coming chefs will not have to go through the pain of trial and error"
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Thanks hilaireg, I might have to bother you regarding the extra posts if this grows as much as I fear it will .
As far as the pro/cons... well, we could do this in such a way that only people who have used the kitchens in question can post them in this thread, so they can give their points of view. I personally have had time to play with 3 of the kitchens that I have posted and used a few tools of another one, but I guess I can add this to the first post and you guys let me know what you think:
"If you are going to post a kitchen in this thread, please be kind enough to give your opinions on it (likes, dislikes, hard to use, buggy, best kitchen ever... well, you know what I mean). This way, new coming chefs will not have to go through the pain of trial and error"
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No worries ... let me know once you decide on the format for this thread. Have a look at this thread; might give you some ideas of what could be done for this:
Sous-Chef's Kitchen Utensils & Appliances Review
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=651026
I use Visual Kitchen
I chose visual kitchen because that was what Da_G used and started me out on. Here are my thoughts:
_________PRO_________
- GUI interface to visually select/deselect packages
- Expandable with Programmable Extra Buttons to ease sorting and cooking stuff
- Allows users to select multiple builds, Lanuages, packages, etc using drop down boxes
- Save/Load configurations and settings
- Robust, Organized and Complete
_________CON_________
- File structure has to be intact or it will fail
- Have to know the building procedure to make sure custom files aren't overwritten
- Packages are in folders, so finding a specific file can be tedious
- Can be overwhelming and confusing to get it setup initially from scratch
I would recommend using this kitchen as it pretty nice. Now of course I say that without using any other kitchen to compare it to... but it does everything I need thus no need to look elsewhere.
_________TIPS_________
EXT folder = Packages (Games/HTC Apps/HTC Dialer/Etc). Additional apps outside of stock MS stuff
OEM folder = Phone specific stuff, OEM customizations, tweaks (usually left alone)
ROM folder = Basic building blocks for WM builds. Has basic device and WM drivers (MSXipKernel updated when SYS gets updated)
SYS folder = WM Build. Contains all the stuff that is stock MS products (updated to change to newer builds)
- Starting out as a new chef... I would suggest that you find a Fully working kitchen designed for your device that is fairly new and updated. Once you can create a working rom, you can then slowly start to expand it by adding more packages and features.
- Don't add too much at once. If you do, and it fails... you'll have to troubleshoot what you added and that can be tedious. It helps to add new packages in groups of 5... so you can test specific parts of the rom before continuing. You'll be surprised that 1 screwed up file can keep your kitchen from completing the building process. Keep that in mind.
- The "EXT" folder is optional and gets updated the most. OEM, ROM, and SYS folders are the only folders really required. Knowing this can allow you to build a very very basic stock Windows build designed for your device. If you have any problems building or flashing, try disabling all of the packages in the EXT folder. If your very very very basic rom still doesn't work... then your "base" kitchen is screwed up. This can be harder to fix.
- Make frequent backups of your "Base" kitchen in the event you screwed something up. I usually will remove the EXT folder and ZIP up the rest in an archive on a memory stick. I update my backup archives after a successful upgrade/edit/tweak of the "base".
player911 said:
I use Visual Kitchen
I chose visual kitchen because that was what Da_G used and started me out on. Here are my thoughts:
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Updated post #2. Thanks player911!
Hi man!
I think you could add vistang's multidevice kitchen too :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=573778
I'm not the right person for a review, but I'm sure one of the guys who used it will be up to the task
Best Regards!
Hi, if you check the link in my signature (Polaris chef corner) you will find quite a few polaris specific kitchens
cruiserrr said:
Hi, if you check the link in my signature (Polaris chef corner) you will find quite a few polaris specific kitchens
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Thanks cruiserrr for the links. I updated the first post.
Can you give us some insights (in the format in the first page) of pros/cons for some of these kitchens? I don't have a Polaris, so I cannot write any comments about them. Thanks.
i dont have the link but there is a Superjust kitchen for sooo much devices in the net...
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i dont have the link but there is a Superjust kitchen for sooo much devices in the net...
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Is that the name of the kitchen?
egzthunder1 said:
Is that the name of the kitchen?
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Here is the link : ivanmmj's SuperJustKitchen
(Supported devices : Artemis , Elfin , Herald , Hermes , Opal)
Regards!
kokotas said:
Here is the link : ivanmmj's SuperJustKitchen
(Supported devices : Artemis , Elfin , Herald , Hermes , Opal)
Regards!
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Thanks for the link. I will update the first post. Any pros/cons opinions about this?
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Thanks for the link. I will update the first post. Any pros/cons opinions about this?
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Well it is a kitchen based on OsKitchen by OndraSter&airxtreme!
ps:check post #10 too
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Thanks cruiserrr for the links. I updated the first post.
Can you give us some insights (in the format in the first page) of pros/cons for some of these kitchens? I don't have a Polaris, so I cannot write any comments about them. Thanks.
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Well, I am not a seasoned cooker but I have updated the polaris chef corner 1st post with my view of each kitchen. Please feel free to take the text if you find it interesting. Most of polaris kitchen's are 26016 EVK kitchens with old kernel, I guess based on gullum's kitchen the first one the share the polaris kitchen for wm6.5. Most of them are based on mega packages. There is one from amenatis based on leo packages but is not 100% completed in english since it is a french kitchen (however, is the one I used as the basis).
For the rest, there are a few other kitchens like vistangs but it seems ondraster kitchen is growing each day. The best one for me is TomAngel's Ondraster kitchen: like any Ondraster's kitchen it has an easy set up of splashscreen and this kinds of things and allows you to cook in several languages at a time. It also has a nice documentation of packages. Additionally TomAngel included a 6.5 native kernel that we are currently testing a few cookers in Polaris but that seems to work and my end with our recmodding hobby.
I personally like better EVK UI but I must say ondraster is also a good solution (and I have "stolen" the kernel from there). I would be glad to share my kitchen I use my own method of cooking shortcuts and tweaks with cmd and mortscript scripts both in the ppc and the pc, so my packages have no app.dat and no png and very few reg files.
cruiserrr said:
Well, I am not a seasoned cooker but I have updated the polaris chef corner 1st post with my view of each kitchen. Please feel free to take the text if you find it interesting. Most of polaris kitchen's are 26016 EVK kitchens with old kernel, I guess based on gullum's kitchen the first one the share the polaris kitchen for wm6.5. Most of them are based on mega packages. There is one from amenatis based on leo packages but is not 100% completed in english since it is a french kitchen (however, is the one I used as the basis).
For the rest, there are a few other kitchens like vistangs but it seems ondraster kitchen is growing each day. The best one for me is TomAngel's Ondraster kitchen: like any Ondraster's kitchen it has an easy set up of splashscreen and this kinds of things and allows you to cook in several languages at a time. It also has a nice documentation of packages. Additionally TomAngel included a 6.5 native kernel that we are currently testing a few cookers in Polaris but that seems to work and my end with our recmodding hobby.
I personally like better EVK UI but I must say ondraster is also a good solution (and I have "stolen" the kernel from there). I would be glad to share my kitchen I use my own method of cooking shortcuts and tweaks with cmd and mortscript scripts both in the ppc and the pc, so my packages have no app.dat and no png and very few reg files.
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I am putting your review with the others (not that it follows the format that I want, but it is good enough for me )
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I am putting your review with the others (not that it follows the format that I want, but it is good enough for me )
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Hi, I think it is interesting to share: I can confirm that cooking for Polaris with the kernel shared by TomAngel requires not any recmodding at all !!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=6135182&postcount=27
Do not know if it works for other devices with old kernel, To try import in your kitchen and tell the machine is true kernel
I posted a thread asking for help on cooking for older devices, but no one seemed to have an answer for it. I figured I would give this thing another shot and the device gets past the first screen, but it never gets out of the second boot splash. I have attached the kitchen that I am using with SYS already ported.
Without further ado, here is my attempt to a kitchen (based off on sun_dream's 28230 kitchen)
http://hotfile.com/dl/36427122/da04c1f/HTC_BlueAngel_WM6.5.3_23112.rar.html
Any help will be appreciated!
did you recmod any of the files in sys? or ext? ive never cooked for blue angel but im sure it doesnt have a native 6.5 nk.exe and that means you need to recmod some files for kaiser i always recmodded my whole ext folder, and all modules in browsing, browsingcore, browsingie...give that a try and see if it helps
twopumpchump said:
did you recmod any of the files in sys? or ext? ive never cooked for blue angel but im sure it doesnt have a native 6.5 nk.exe and that means you need to recmod some files for kaiser i always recmodded my whole ext folder, and all modules in browsing, browsingcore, browsingie...give that a try and see if it helps
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Hey twopump,
I tried recmodding the modules that you described there (which I also saw on another thread that you replied to). As far as the ones in the EXT folder (my kitchen has a OEM folder, which I think is the same), they were all recmodded by sun_dream. BTW, you are absolutely correct about the BA not having a native 6.5 nk.exe.... that is usually the downfall of a 5 year old device , but I know that it can be done since there are newish roms out there for the BA (28230 being one of them).
There is no way you can look at my kitchen and tell me what's wrong is there, is there? (I guess the answer is no, but it is always worth asking).
Thanks for the help.
ok i took a look at your kitchen, and im pretty sure i know whats wrong. the first thing i did was open up your sys folder to check if you had recmodded browsing, browsingie, browsingcore, and you hadnt they all still had the modules in them....except you didnt even have browsingie in your rom only the 0409 pkg lol. then i noticed that you deleted the netcf pkg from sys as well, that will cause your rom not to boot. here is my solution to your problems, start over with a fresh complete sys, only delete the things that arent needed, then convert every module in browsing, browsingcore, browsingie to a file. make sure you have netcf and cook you should have a booting rom
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ok i took a look at your kitchen, and im pretty sure i know whats wrong. the first thing i did was open up your sys folder to check if you had recmodded browsing, browsingie, browsingcore, and you hadnt they all still had the modules in them....except you didnt even have browsingie in your rom only the 0409 pkg lol. then i noticed that you deleted the netcf pkg from sys as well, that will cause your rom not to boot. here is my solution to your problems, start over with a fresh complete sys, only delete the things that arent needed, then convert every module in browsing, browsingcore, browsingie to a file. make sure you have netcf and cook you should have a booting rom
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Thanks for the advice. I honestly cannot put browsingie and netcf at the same time simply because the BA only has 32 mb for rom and the kitchen essentially errors out before getting to the end. The other issue is that the rom will not even boot if I take either one of them out. I did recmod all that you suggested, but still nothing...
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Thanks for the advice. I honestly cannot put browsingie and netcf at the same time simply because the BA only has 32 mb for rom and the kitchen essentially errors out before getting to the end. The other issue is that the rom will not even boot if I take either one of them out. I did recmod all that you suggested, but still nothing...
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can I be of some help?if I get u correctly u want to cook a rom OS 23112 for blue angel.right ?if so must one use the kitchen u have posted?or any kitchen ?
regards
deepankerjha said:
can I be of some help?if I get u correctly u want to cook a rom OS 23112 for blue angel.right ?if so must one use the kitchen u have posted?or any kitchen ?
regards
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I would appreciate all the help that I can get . The kitchen that I posted is a modified version of a 28230 kitchen by sun_dream. Basically, I ported the XIP and the SYS folders from 23112 into the 28230 kitchen. Originally, I had included the same exact components in the SYS that sun_dream had included in his kitchen (his is fully functional btw), so I am at the point where I am running out of ideas on what I could be doing wrong. I know that you cook for the Nike, so the way of cooking will be completely different, but some of the core knowledge is still the same. Any suggestions are welcome
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I would appreciate all the help that I can get . The kitchen that I posted is a modified version of a 28230 kitchen by sun_dream. Basically, I ported the XIP and the SYS folders from 23112 into the 28230 kitchen. Originally, I had included the same exact components in the SYS that sun_dream had included in his kitchen (his is fully functional btw), so I am at the point where I am running out of ideas on what I could be doing wrong. I know that you cook for the Nike, so the way of cooking will be completely different, but some of the core knowledge is still the same. Any suggestions are welcome
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well mate we can ddo two things. I can give u my sys/common folder of 23112 and u can try that .i have cooked with 23112 for nike and neon both.
2nd u will have to provide me the stock rom so that I can give a try using my kitchen to cook for u .
btw which kitchen is posted in ur link
regards
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well mate we can ddo two things. I can give u my sys/common folder of 23112 and u can try that .i have cooked with 23112 for nike and neon both.
2nd u will have to provide me the stock rom so that I can give a try using my kitchen to cook for u .
btw which kitchen is posted in ur link
regards
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Original kitchen by sun_dream here
My modified kitchen is the one posted above
Link for the stock rom can be found here
I will certainly appreciate any help I can get
egzthunder1 said:
Original kitchen by sun_dream here
My modified kitchen is the one posted above
Link for the stock rom can be found here[/ucouldn'trl]
I will certainly appreciate any help I can get
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sorry,u didn't get me,or I couldnt put right words.is that evk kitchen or some other.2ndly would u like to try my sys 23112 ?
deepankerjha said:
sorry,u didn't get me,or I couldnt put right words.is that evk kitchen or some other.2ndly would u like to try my sys 23112 ?
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No, these are "old style kitchens" I am pretty sure that EVK will not work with these kind of roms (they are of the nbf type and not nbh). If you would like to send me your SYS, I would not mind taking it for a spin.
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No, these are "old style kitchens" I am pretty sure that EVK will not work with these kind of roms (they are of the nbf type and not nbh). If you would like to send me your SYS, I would not mind taking it for a spin.
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ok I will upload the common folder for u once I am home,say within an hr
deepankerjha said:
ok I will upload the common folder for u once I am home,say within an hr
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Thank you. I will post my findings after I test it.
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Thank you. I will post my findings after I test it.
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sorry for being late 23112
I would give atry to Recmod all EXT packages as TPC said.
Your FWUPDATE and SQM in sys folder are dummy or M$ originals?
You need absolutly Net and Browsingie as TPC said ,at least delete some useless apps in OEM packages.
I made a 23112 SYS within only the needed and already recmoded plus the dummy fwupdate and sqm, you must put them in an EXT folder or convert them in OEM.
http://www.4shared.com/file/7miAPvVw/SYS_XIP_DUMMY_23112.html
af974 said:
I would give atry to Recmod all EXT packages as TPC said.
Your FWUPDATE and SQM in sys folder are dummy or M$ originals?
You need absolutly Net and Browsingie as TPC said ,at least delete some useless apps in OEM packages.
I made a 23112 SYS within only the needed and already recmoded plus the dummy fwupdate and sqm, you must put them in an EXT folder or convert them in OEM.
http://www.4shared.com/file/7miAPvVw/SYS_XIP_DUMMY_23112.html
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I believe I have the real FW and SQM folders in there. It is truly weird though, if you take a look at the original sys folder of the 28230 kitchen, sun_dream has no netcf nor browsingie in there, and he has no recmodded files in the browsing folders either, yet his kitchen spits out a working rom...
At this point, I am beginning to think that my xip might be bad...
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I believe I have the real FW and SQM folders in there. It is truly weird though, if you take a look at the original sys folder of the 28230 kitchen, sun_dream has no netcf nor browsingie in there, and he has no recmodded files in the browsing folders either, yet his kitchen spits out a working rom...
At this point, I am beginning to think that my xip might be bad...
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You dont need netcf to build a ROM. Ofcourse most of our programs these days wont run unless you install it after...
I do agree that it doesnt make sense...
ai6908 said:
You dont need netcf to build a ROM. Ofcourse most of our programs these days wont run unless you install it after...
I do agree that it doesnt make sense...
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NetCF can be installed post flash either by hand or some customization method (sdcustomization, uc, sashimi, etc)
Let me go a little deeper into the world of the BA. The process is pretty much the same as it is with all devices... flash a rom, hard reset, and reboot. Depending on the packages that I am adding to the SYS, the rom will either get stuck while hard resetting (which is the same as getting stuck in the tri-colored screen (keep in mind that for the BA, the tri-colored screen is *not* bootloader, but the first bootsplash)), or will go through the first screen and get stuck in the second bootsplash (here is the kicker, if you connect the device to a computer, Activesync will see it and try to connect, which means that some of the windows OS components are loading...)
I am finishing charging up my BA and I will flash deep's SYS and will let you all know what comes out of it
If I look in your common folder I see Chome is still in, that's a huge memory eater, not sure what you are cooking and if you need it.
Another thing; if I take out NETCF in my rom device setup starts looping in a continue circle and I get a warning about AutoVer.exe.
I hope this is of any help.
egzthunder1 said:
NetCF can be installed post flash either by hand or some customization method (sdcustomization, uc, sashimi, etc)
Let me go a little deeper into the world of the BA. The process is pretty much the same as it is with all devices... flash a rom, hard reset, and reboot. Depending on the packages that I am adding to the SYS, the rom will either get stuck while hard resetting (which is the same as getting stuck in the tri-colored screen (keep in mind that for the BA, the tri-colored screen is *not* bootloader, but the first bootsplash)), or will go through the first screen and get stuck in the second bootsplash (here is the kicker, if you connect the device to a computer, Activesync will see it and try to connect, which means that some of the windows OS components are loading...)
I am finishing charging up my BA and I will flash deep's SYS and will let you all know what comes out of it
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sorry for being late 23112
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Thanks... I tried it but no dice I ran out of space (the BA only has 32 MB available for the ROM)
Ok, I came to the point where I would like to see if it's possible to cook my own rom. There is, however, so much (cluttered) information around the forum and I just have no idea where to start. I did figure some stuff out, but with everything I find out I also get more questions. I hope I'm allowed to ask these here.
Windows Mobile / Sense:
I am planning to begin flashing a rom only for my phone: Rhodium / Touch Pro 2. I just don't realy get how I can get the latest version of windows mobile (the on with the start menu at the top left) and sense (2.5.2015 ?). The stock roms I can find for Rhodium contain older versions.
Kitchens:
There are quite some kitchens out there, even those that do a lot of work for you. To understand everything, however, I would rather get a kitchen with only the essential tools. This way I am hoping to understand what steps are needed for the cooking. What kitchen would be recommended for this?
Terms
There are lots of terms around, but for some of them I can't figure out what exactly they are.
- XIP
- SYS
- OEM
Thanks!
~Sph
For WM, you should find the newest version of COM2 build, which is Build 21905 at this moment. It seems that not mentioned in XDA, but you could Google for that.
I think you should be able to use these essential tools, often refer as "old style" kitchen
ImgfsFromDump
xidump (ImgfsToDump) and DMP2PKG
osnbtool
BuildOS
EXTReloc
XIPPort
maybe there are more tools when you need to repack back to nbh format
For Terms, you should read Da_G's post here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=544445
I will tell you this....
read the tutorials... check the main stickie
read eve you dont understand nothing... then when you want to start trying things, you can ask.. with some knowledge.. the lates kitchen to date is Oskitchen by airxtreme and osbuilder.. i guess
Not to be mean but like +Que PPC said READ FIRST you should have look for information first and found this answers by your self ... Now about the systems and xip ext, sys, modules, cabs and all other stuff like that you will learn them when you start working on a kitchen.
About the kitchens there are various kitchens it just deppends which one you want to choose, all the kitchens will help you create your rom and customise it, and also one recomendation and requirement that you should have in order to create your own rom and that is patience and time, because you will need to look for alot of info and also looking for fixes and customisation and all of that.
Here is another kitchen that I recomended thanks to +Que PPC with the tutorial with videos in english made by me.
HTML:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669535
PS. Search & read first
XIP = eXicuteInPlace -- it's the core of the entire OS. Without it you got nothing.
XIP is made up of 2 main parts:
oemxipkernel - device specific
msxipkernel - build specific to SYS version
SYS is basically all the microsoft files
OEM is basically all the device specific files, and nonMS applications
If you have a CDMA Touch Pro 2, I have a kitchen here all set up for you:
http://www.mobileunderground.info/showthread.php?t=12797
If you have GSM, you will need to change out some components of the kitchen, specifically xip and oemdrivers, plus a few other things.
Hi,
this my first time about cooking a rom and I gooogled a lot but I can't find any info about cooking rom for this device.
The only information is in this old thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294165
and a wm6 port here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320686
following this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2729160&postcount=16 I succesfully "converted" the nbf to nb.os
The nb.os with xidump is correctly(?) dumped in two folders, XIP and IMGFS
I'd like update WM to a newer release and include/remove some apps.
Can someone help me?
Thanks,
Michele
SystemR89 said:
Hi,
this my first time about cooking a rom and I gooogled a lot but I can't find any info about cooking rom for this device.
The only information is in this old thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294165
and a wm6 port here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=320686
following this post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2729160&postcount=16 I succesfully "converted" the nbf to nb.os
The nb.os with xidump is correctly(?) dumped in two folders, XIP and IMGFS
I'd like update WM to a newer release and include/remove some apps.
Can someone help me?
Thanks,
Michele
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osKitchen can take and rebuild the NB of that phone with probably no issues but you need to figure out the rest by yourself since the older the phone is the more likely it has drivers that will break with wm6.5.
Uhmm..thats interesting,could you explain how make this?
I have an old PocketLoox 720 with .nbf and it can run with no problem WM 6.1.
I know how to use OsKitchen but where i need to put the Os.nb converted?
Other issue will be the NBH output , of course ill need nbf for flash the PDA.
airxtreme said:
osKitchen can take and rebuild the NB of that phone with probably no issues but you need to figure out the rest by yourself since the older the phone is the more likely it has drivers that will break with wm6.5.
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Hi pals
I Cooked a WM6.1 19971 Official ROM for OPAL in Ervius Visual Kitchen. The cooked ROM seems quite alright except that:
1.The original ROM was about 100MB while despite the fact that I added a lot of packages, the cooked ROM is about 80MB.
2.None of my packages exist in the cooked ROM when I flash it.
Can you tell me what the problem is?
The smaller size is fine.
What do you mean packages not there?
Are the files not in the windows folder or are you just missing shortcuts?
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2.None of my packages exist in the cooked ROM when I flash it.
Can you tell me what the problem is?
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What?!...EVK generates a build_log...look at this, and u'll see, what's in your rom.
Cannot belive that u've applied packages in EVK they wouldn't cook in....strange.
It is happened to me too in the beginning when i was cooking for kaiser and tried to cook inside HTC Mega packages with Manila 2d...i solved it using OsKitchen,lol.
af974 said:
.i solved it using OsKitchen,lol.
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Sorry...but usin' OSKitchen is still hard work in my opinion. Maybe others think similar to me, and please forgive me @airxtreme!
But still the best kitchen in my opinion is EVK....
Its not true,
OsKitchen compared to any other Kitchen is much more easy to use expecially for newbie users.
EVK it is much complete.
Which is the best between one and another its only a personal taste.
icke said:
Sorry...but usin' OSKitchen is still hard work in my opinion. Maybe others think similar to me, and please forgive me @airxtreme!
But still the best kitchen in my opinion is EVK....
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Kitchen
I can`t understand that someone say the os kitchen is to difficult
I work with these kitchen hours and days and no problems whatsoever and easys`t do use, if someone got problem to use this kitchen,live the finger from cooking
af974 said:
Which is the best between one and another its only a personal taste.
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And that's what i said!
For new's, maybe OSKitchen is easier to use...but still beta.
Speak is free and give opinions too...but please people dont start flaming about kitchens.
I mean about what in red....its not nice.
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I can`t understand that someone say the os kitchen is to difficult
I work with these kitchen hours and days and no problems whatsoever and easys`t do use, if someone got problem to use this kitchen,live the finger from cooking
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While EVK was building the ROM I checked the log it was generating. I saw all my packages. But when I used osKitchen it had problems with the *.dsm file in the packages and said that it's corrupt. I think it's the problem but I used package-creator-v2.7 to convert *.cab files to a package. So obviously the problem is with the package creator.
But on thing that's for sure is that newbies (like me) should stick to osKitchen.
FYI, Barin's OSBuilder has a .dsm autocorrection option.
Well, OsKitchen has its own package creator so all you need is to import your original rom and convert all your cabs again plus it has an auto mui converter,thats mean if that you have some 0410 mui's and you are cooking for 0409 oskitchen wiil rename all the mui for you.It worth a try.
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While EVK was building the ROM I checked the log it was generating. I saw all my packages. But when I used osKitchen it had problems with the *.dsm file in the packages and said that it's corrupt. I think it's the problem but I used package-creator-v2.7 to convert *.cab files to a package. So obviously the problem is with the package creator.
But on thing that's for sure is that newbies (like me) should stick to osKitchen.
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Let's state this once for all: Ervius kitchen is basically a GUI to create _skip files that launches a giant batch file that does all the cooking and that needs to be customized for every device: if you created your own _skip files by hand and used a batch file to cook there would be virtually no difference. OsKitchen has a simple GUI by design but that doesn't mean that it isn't orders of magnitude more complete and advanced than ervius kitchen: it does everything from detecting all device/ROM informations without asking anything (the list of supported devices actually has nothing associated to them but the alternative names: no customized fixed, no customized settings, nothing) to cooking with all sorts of checks to prevent bricking or unbootable ROMs and even parsing all the files in the package: if I had proper relocation code (that I was waiting Da_G to write since he knows that stuff better than everybody else) the kitchen could already natively cook its own ROMs. I'm already using all the code I wrote to replace platformrebuilder to implement all sorts of cool stuff like complete validation of all package files and installing packages directly on the phone trough activesync (to avoid having to reflash any time you want to test something) as you can see on the alphas thread, things that on ervius kitchen, where cooking just means running a giant batch file, you could only dream of.
I hope that finally clears the minds of the people saying that ervius is more advanced or complete: it's not, it's just a simple batch file-based kitchen with an unnecessarily complex GUI. It may have some bundled tools that oskitchen doesn't include (like xipporterex, that while works on some NK.EXE wreaks havoc on unofficial native kernel and latest kernels) but having a dedicated button to launch a tool doesn't make a kitchen "more advanced" or "more complete".
No offence and I do appreciate and use your work, but aren't all kitchens just fancy GUI's around a set of batch files and same old imgfstools and platformrebuilder from yesteryear?
pkoper said:
No offence and I do appreciate and use your work, but aren't all kitchens just fancy GUI's around a set of batch files and same old imgfstools and platformrebuilder from yesteryear?
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Not really, I process all the files before feeding them to platformrebuilder hence the recmod/upx/tweaks/ordering/manila compression/etc without touching any of the original files. I also only use the newest tools available like libnb and osnbtool that the kitchen calls directly and checks the output to warn of any error and to get informations about the ROM format indeed it can import any proper BIN/NB/NBH file and cook it without even knowing what device they come from. The only original imgfstools I keep are nbmerge and nbsplit because I was waiting Da_G to finish his BuildNB function but osnbtool can probably replace both (nbsplit for sure with the -sp parameter).
@OP, it sounds like your package structure is wrong. Are the packages in EXT format (not OEM)? If they're in oem format, none of the files will be included. Just make the packages manually, it's a lot easier.
Can you please post the build log file?
pkoper said:
No offence and I do appreciate and use your work, but aren't all kitchens just fancy GUI's around a set of batch files and same old imgfstools and platformrebuilder from yesteryear?
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My kitchen (OSbuilder) uses it's own engine to process packages, build dsms, rebase modules, merge dsm and build ROM file. The only external tool i use is "TurboImgfs" by airxtreme.
Yes , when i wrote that EVK ,maybe, its more complete then OsKitchen i was referring to this, only some tools.
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It may have some bundled tools that oskitchen doesn't include
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airxtreme said:
Let's state this once for all: Ervius kitchen is basically a GUI to create _skip files that launches a giant batch file that does all the cooking and that needs to be customized for every device: if you created your own _skip files by hand and used a batch file to cook there would be virtually no difference. OsKitchen has a simple GUI by design but that doesn't mean that it isn't orders of magnitude more complete and advanced than ervius kitchen: it does everything from detecting all device/ROM informations without asking anything (the list of supported devices actually has nothing associated to them but the alternative names: no customized fixed, no customized settings, nothing) to cooking with all sorts of checks to prevent bricking or unbootable ROMs and even parsing all the files in the package: if I had proper relocation code (that I was waiting Da_G to write since he knows that stuff better than everybody else) the kitchen could already natively cook its own ROMs. I'm already using all the code I wrote to replace platformrebuilder to implement all sorts of cool stuff like complete validation of all package files and installing packages directly on the phone trough activesync (to avoid having to reflash any time you want to test something) as you can see on the alphas thread, things that on ervius kitchen, where cooking just means running a giant batch file, you could only dream of.
I hope that finally clears the minds of the people saying that ervius is more advanced or complete: it's not, it's just a simple batch file-based kitchen with an unnecessarily complex GUI. It may have some bundled tools that oskitchen doesn't include (like xipporterex, that while works on some NK.EXE wreaks havoc on unofficial native kernel and latest kernels) but having a dedicated button to launch a tool doesn't make a kitchen "more advanced" or "more complete".
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Don't let them get you down man. Ervius's kitchen is a piece of **** in my opinion. The GUI blows and it crashes on the smallest thing that's not exactly right with a package. Did I mention the GUI is horrible ?
I will say it as well, erv's kitchen is NOTHING but a glorified GUI for platformrebuilder which is the real workhorse.
p.s. I made my own kitchen GUI, based on platformrebuilder as well. Mine's designed to cook for 12 devices at a time though... so I can't exactly share it. PM me if you'd like the details necesssary to make Samsung Omnia 2 ROMs with prb though, it seems nobody else seems to know what the "secret" is... I just think they didn't try hard enough. lol If anything, you can add 4 more devices to your already impressive collection of supported devices