Would any of you change your HD for the new Diamond2? I can't decide which to purchase. I like the idea of HD's larger screen and 3.5mm headset port but concerned about all of the postings re audio and video stuttering. I look forward to your opinions.
I like the Diamond 2 but I would never have one as I love the HD mainly for it's bigger screen and 3.5mm jack, plus I think it looks nicer.
I have never had any stuttering on my HD or my older Diamond, but even if you get the Diamond 2 it has practically the same specs as the HD but in a smaller package.
I have never had any audio problems but have noticed a small amount of video shuttering but after a while i didn't even notice it unless I was thinking about it. When the video shuttered the audio was rock solid, in some wierd way that lessened the problem considerably. Also, I would not give up the headphone jack and small screen. I still am wondering why anyone would buy a TD2 over a THD.
touch HD is the one...the bigger screen makes all the difference.
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touch HD is the one...the bigger screen makes all the difference.
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Totally agree on that...
I got a Diamond2 for testing purpose, and it's just a GREAT piece of hardware ! I know the hardware is exactly the same as the HD, but its speed and responsiveness is far above the HD's. I'll not change my HD for a Diamond2, but I must admit that it's just faster in every way.
Since the bigger screen was the reason to buy the HD, i dont see the reason why should i get the diamond 2.... as for ui responsiveness i think if you use another rom on the hd, would make it same as the diamond 2 (maybe a bit slower, since the HD uses higher resolution)!!
Guys,
Does the TD2 have an actual GPS antenna or is it a aGPS system? I ask because if I'm not mistaken, the THD uses an aGPS. In my opinion, that's the only difference between the two phones besides the screen size, the actual GPS antenna versus aGPS system.
Cheers.
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Since the bigger screen was the reason to buy the HD, i dont see the reason why should i get the diamond 2.... as for ui responsiveness i think if you use another rom on the hd, would make it same as the diamond 2 (maybe a bit slower, since the HD uses higher resolution)!!
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I already use different roms, and it's not even near the same responsiveness as the Diamond2 (and for info. the Diamond2 has exactly the same resolution : 800*480).
why would any of us think the touch diamond 2 would perform any better? The problem isnt the hardware that the HD has, its the drivers that HTC refuses to improve. I imagine that the diamond2 will have the same issues. The HD screen beats everything out there and should be your choice unless you are in the US and need 35. Then you can get the aussie version of the HD but you will pay much more for it
Both HD and Diamond 2 looks great! But I'll still choose HD.
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Guys,
Does the TD2 have an actual GPS antenna or is it a aGPS system? I ask because if I'm not mistaken, the THD uses an aGPS. In my opinion, that's the only difference between the two phones besides the screen size, the actual GPS antenna versus aGPS system.
Cheers.
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The touch HD has a GPS receiver, aGPS is assisted GPS which is an extension to the GPS chipset, that help get a faster fix through distance between cells(triangulations of ones positions is measured in the same way).
Lets just keep our beautiful 3.8 HD and put the Topaz/Diamond 2 Rom on it and have the best of both worlds. I have.
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i now many universal owners found that the HTC HD will be their new replacement for their old universal (me too) and i was wondering which realy has a better CPU since we already have intel PXA270 624Mhz on universal after clocking but i dont know weather the Qualcomm MSM7201A will have a potential to over clock it to at least the same extent?
i also hate that the HD has no hardkeys or joypad which is real helppfull in many games!!
so guys any cons or pros between the 2 will be realy benefitial?(i think i wrote it right).
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1469&id2=312
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i now many universal owners found that the HTC HD will be their new replacement for their old universal (me too) and i was wondering which realy has a better CPU since we already have intel PXA270 624Mhz on universal after clocking but i dont know weather the Qualcomm MSM7201A will have a potential to over clock it to at least the same extent?
i also hate that the HD has no hardkeys or joypad which is real helppfull in many games!!
so guys any cons or pros between the 2 will be realy benefitial?(i think i wrote it right).
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=1469&id2=312
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Hi
I am not an expert in processors but if you read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2742307#post2742307
Maybe your question can be solved.
About HD vs. Universal I think the only 2 bad points on where HD is not the winner are:
1. NO KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Too similar to iphoney..........
I dream with HTC HD with a very nice slim and well designed physical keyboard!!!
That would be an ultimate device and the ONLY real succesor for our fantastic Uni
Cheers,
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Hi
I am not an expert in processors but if you read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2742307#post2742307
Maybe your question can be solved.
About HD vs. Universal I think the only 2 bad points on where HD is not the winner are:
1. NO KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Too similar to iphoney..........
I dream with HTC HD with a very nice slim and well designed physical keyboard!!!
That would be an ultimate device and the ONLY real succesor for our fantastic Uni
Cheers,
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I'm absolutely with you, I really need a qwerty keyboard, I hope so soon will be released Uni successor, HD is great device, but it's not for me...
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I am not an expert in processors but if you read here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2742307#post2742307
Maybe your question can be solved.
wow how did I not see that thread!!!!!!!!!
About HD vs. Universal I think the only 2 bad points on where HD is not the winner are:
1. NO KEYBOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2. Too similar to iphoney..........
I dream with HTC HD with a very nice slim and well designed physical keyboard!!!
That would be an ultimate device and the ONLY real succesor for our fantastic Uni
Cheers,
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I agree with you,in addition I have concerns about the manufacture quality of the screen which seems to be similar to that of diamond and the touch pro which with time sites of increase pressure would have reduce sensitivity and I didn't understood this phrase "it become oil point"?
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I agree with you,in addition I have concerns about the manufacture quality of the screen which seems to be similar to that of diamond and the touch pro which with time sites of increase pressure would have reduce sensitivity and I didn't understood this phrase "it become oil point"?
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Yes the quality of the screen does not looks very nice, too shinny I think.
I can imagine if I am trying to read a mail on HD with some bright light on my back I´m sure I wont be able to see a s....t on the screen
Hope I am wrong, I am thinking seriously to wait a little bit to see if HD makes a keyboard model, instead of running to buy the HD.
I am not tired about my Uni but we have to be honest, it feels nice to buy a new device! and I haven´t made that since Aug 05 when I got my Uni.
I wouldn't hold my breath for a keyboard HD anytime soon. The Pro is there and there seems to be a smaller market for the Pro than for the Diamond for example. Besides that, plans for the Pro were well known before the Diamond was even released, and the HD is just around the corner and there isn't even the slightest rumor of a keyboard HD, afaik.
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I agree with you,in addition I have concerns about the manufacture quality of the screen which seems to be similar to that of diamond and the touch pro which with time sites of increase pressure would have reduce sensitivity and I didn't understood this phrase "it become oil point"?
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wait, let me get this straight...are you saying what I think you're saying?
That the screens of the devices like Diamond and HD will lose it's functionality after a while???
Diamond wasn't released that long ago and people are already saying that the screen is losing its functionality after just, what, 2 or 3 months?
This can't be true...
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wait, let me get this straight...are you saying what I think you're saying?
That the screens of the devices like Diamond and HD will lose it's functionality after a while???
Diamond wasn't released that long ago and people are already saying that the screen is losing its functionality after just, what, 2 or 3 months?
This can't be true...
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2731291&postcount=6
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2731291&postcount=6
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That post was not exclusive to Diamond (including Pro) and HD devices. From what I understood, what he's saying is that all pressure sensitive screens are susceptible to wear over a period of time, and I quote: "(not immediately, but over time it loses its accuracy/sensitivity)"
So it could happen to Kaiser, Universal, Hermes, well, just about any other pressure sensitive touch screen devices.
I believe that's possible but it would take quite a while before the screen loses it's functionability.
When I initially read your post, it gave me quite a scare. I thought that this was a problem exclusive to Diamond and HD. lol
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That post was not exclusive to Diamond (including Pro) and HD devices. From what I understood, what he's saying is that all pressure sensitive screens are susceptible to wear over a period of time, and I quote: "(not immediately, but over time it loses its accuracy/sensitivity)"
So it could happen to Kaiser, Universal, Hermes, well, just about any other pressure sensitive touch screen devices.
I believe that's possible but it would take quite a while before the screen loses it's functionability.
When I initially read your post, it gave me quite a scare. I thought that this was a problem exclusive to Diamond and HD. lol
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Agree meckah
I have my Universal since Aug 05 as my main PDA/Phone and I don´t feel any accuracy/sensitivity loss at all.
So I´m going for HD with no doubt!
Well if you took good care of the phone you wouldn't notice the difference even if it were there. It is only very, very minor loss of accuracy/sensitivity and it would occur so gradually it's hardly noticeable unless holding it next to a new version of the same phone.
The problem: the Diamond and its siblings invite for heavy finger pressure since they respond better to sharp objects such as a nail or a stylus. This is because the finger itself spreads the pressure over such a big area that the screen will not respond, while you are still applying a lot of net pressure to it. This may cause the screen on the Diamond, or the Pro, or the HD to damage much faster than older PDA screens which were only controlled with a stylus.
I use a stylus rather often on my Diamond since it many winmo features are so small it's hard to use a finger.
Now, early HD beta owners specifically pointed out that the HD seems to feel more responsive (see the French vid on youtube as well), making it more finger friendly.
This brings yet another issue: The Touch HD is a screen which appeals much more to finger gesture control than stylus control. Since the PPI is slightly lower than that of the Diamond all winmo user interface elements will be bigger, they can more easily be controlled using a fingertip. Also, it will be easier to depress and thus bend the screen since it is much bigger than that of the Diamond. If the screen isn't more sensitive than its siblings, the HD will be more likely to show oil patch and decreased sensitivity problems than the Diamond and the Pro.
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Well if you took good care of the phone you wouldn't notice the difference even if it were there. It is only very, very minor loss of accuracy/sensitivity and it would occur so gradually it's hardly noticeable unless holding it next to a new version of the same phone.
The problem: the Diamond and its siblings invite for heavy finger pressure since they respond better to sharp objects such as a nail or a stylus. This is because the finger itself spreads the pressure over such a big area that the screen will not respond, while you are still applying a lot of net pressure to it. This may cause the screen on the Diamond, or the Pro, or the HD to damage much faster than older PDA screens which were only controlled with a stylus.
I use a stylus rather often on my Diamond since it many winmo features are so small it's hard to use a finger.
Now, early HD beta owners specifically pointed out that the HD seems to feel more responsive (see the French vid on youtube as well), making it more finger friendly.
This brings yet another issue: The Touch HD is a screen which appeals much more to finger gesture control than stylus control. Since the PPI is slightly lower than that of the Diamond all winmo user interface elements will be bigger, they can more easily be controlled using a fingertip. Also, it will be easier to depress and thus bend the screen since it is much bigger than that of the Diamond. If the screen isn't more sensitive than its siblings, the HD will be more likely to show oil patch and decreased sensitivity problems than the Diamond and the Pro.
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Good explanation.
So it seems that if HD is more sensitive, then it also means that the screen will wear off quicker? I guess we'll never know until the phone comes out and people start using it....but the answer to this question might have a great impact on my decision of whether to buy the phone or not.
I have a Kaiser...Diamond never really impressed me with the 2.8screen, I marked the HD as my next device, but I'm hearing a lot of doubts about this phone even before it's released.
Going back on the thread subject
I insist, what are the options on having a new model in a few months based on HD with keyboard?
Or any succesor that you can think for the Universal? (No G1!!!)
How about the only disadvantage I can see on the HD? KEYBOARD
How easy is going to type on HD comparing to the beautyfull and usefull kb of Uni?
For me,
HTC Universal is the first big VGA PDA Phone about 2 years ago. It succeeded the big non VGA BlueAngel.
It was follow by next big VGA PDA Phone about a year back, O2 XDA Flame.
Now of course, HTC Touch HD will be the next big VGA PDA Phone.
I've been using the Universal since August 2005 and I'm still using it and I'm very satisfied with it. However after 3 years I would like something new...
However, the thing I use most of all is Terminal Services/Remote Desktop/LogMeIn.com.
The problem is that when I maximize this to full screen I won't be able to use a good Virtual Keyboard anymore. So I really need a hardware keyboard. I'm afraid I'll have to go with the Touch PRO or stick with the Universal if HTC doesn't release a HD with keyboard.
And I'm not about to carry around a seperate keyboard with me.
Hi all,
did anyone of you the step from HTC Diamond to the new Touch HD?
Apart from the obvious, technical differences: What is your opinion? Is it better? Is the handling the same or do you feel a difference (e.g. performance?).
What is your experience with the new Buttons at the bottom?
Thanks for any input.
Rgds
Kingshill
I'd like to know the answer to this too. I have a diamond and am not sure wether its worth the £500. Is it reallly worth it? Some people think we're mad anyway shelling out hundreds for a telephone especialy when you've got one. Maybe we need councilling?
I wonder as well if I should change. What I really love on the Diamond is the size. And the HD is big in my opinion. Sure it's nice with the big screen etc.
If the HD would have TV-out, ok, but I don't see real big advantage on the HD. Sure performance is better, but I think I will wait for the next HTC Device with probably WM 6.5.
From my point of view, the HD offers to solve all of the problems the diamond had - i.e lack of expandable memory, poor battery and tiny screen.
I managed to sell my diamond on ebay for £320. A mate of mine in trade can get me the HD at the trade price of £460. So thats an HD for £140.
HD doesnt arrive until mid week - will let you all know then.
I have the diamond (actually a t-mobile mda compact iv) as a work phone, and have just bought the HD to replace my personal tytn.
I actually see them as two different phones, for two very different purposes. The HD is a great recreational phone, while still allowing me to be connected to my business services. It's great for browsing and using as a controller for my home automation system. Essentially because of the size of the screen (bear in mind the hardware of the two devices is almost identical).
The HD I would be nervous about taking for a night out, or with me to play sport, or when travelling - it's too awkward to handle and keep safe in demanding circumstances, and increases the risk of breakage. Whereas the diamond is an ideal size and easily protectable in harsher environments.
It is a shame that neither phone has a point to attach a lanyard. This is particularly unfortunate for the HD because sometimes handling it, particularly when removing the case, really does not feel safe.
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I wonder as well if I should change. What I really love on the Diamond is the size. And the HD is big in my opinion. Sure it's nice with the big screen etc.
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I have to agree. After the Diamond, the Touch HD feels H-U-G-E. I've had the HD for a week and I'm still surprised by the size very time I pick it up. My ideal device is same form factor as Diamond, but with larger full-front screen. Don't need the D-pad. Apart from the marvellous THD screen, I appreciate the longer battery life.
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I have to agree. After the Diamond, the Touch HD feels H-U-G-E. I've had the HD for a week and I'm still surprised by the size very time I pick it up. My ideal device is same form factor as Diamond, but with larger full-front screen. Don't need the D-pad. Apart from the marvellous THD screen, I appreciate the longer battery life.
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Ha ha, for me the feeling is the oppsite. After Athena's 5 inch screen, Touch HD feels tiny. I would be happier if it is 4.5 inch. It makes all the difference in internet surfing, spreadsheet, word processing, picture viewing, and video watching.
I went from Diamond to HD (still have the Diamond as a backup)
Observations/reasons;
LOVE the look/feel of the HD (I liked my iPhone in this regard as well - just hated far too many aspects of it...) and ultimately I want to get Android onto it....hopefully!!
Diamond always niggled me in that it had a tiny screen so was fiddly for touch/finger control (I avoid stylus operation as much as possible - it's fiddly and annoying). Also that there was no mSD card option/expandabilty. O/S was sluggish and slow compared to the HD (especially TouchFlo - which is noticeably faster on the HD)
Aesthetically - IMO the HD gets it hands down over the diamond (and any other phone out there, including the iPhone!)
The Diamond is handy if you like small phones and aren't very demanding on performance, but otherwise the HD is a better performing tool all round.
Battery life on the HD seems quite comparable with the Diamond - in actual fact possibly slightly better (the Diamond battery life was pretty grim)
Just my thoughts/opinions
The HD is better then the Diamond
Bigger Screen
Responsive Screen
Expandable memory
More Ram
Better Battery Life
All in all the TF3D is alot more quicker and responsive then the Diamond, and currently im using a stock rom, so imagine when there are cooked roms for this.
I would recommend you get this phone
I havent touched my Diamond since i got it
and now im selling my Diamond
i have the both, and i think HD is better than diamond on all point except dimension but it is not a real probleme because you can put hd in your pocket too.
I also have both and I must admit it´s a BIG change... The screen´s great, the battery life much improved and the touch screen a pleasure to use... but it feels much bigger in the hand than the Diamond. I have to agree with AFW the ideal would be Diamond size but without the D Pad but out of the two I´ll be sticking with the HD
Can´t wait to start cooking.... this baby will fly!
Thanks chaps - I will spent the money and get one asap.....
I bought a Touch Diamond a few months ago... it's running a Diamond Project rom and upgraded radio and has been an excellent device.
Anyway I just changed carriers from 3 Mobile to Telstra and they gave me a Touch HD.
So now I'm sitting here wondering if I should just keep the Touch Diamond and sell the HD or upgrade the rom on the HD, keep that and sell the Touch Diamond.
It shouldn't be a hard decision. Which one is the better phone?
I prefer the Touch HD: more ram, bigger screen with more resolution, memory card slot, better battery, 3.5 audio connection,...
HD all the way... No question about that
No contest (for me) - take the HD. But for you, you might prefer smaller memory, tiny screen and horrible diamond back that does not lay flat on a surface (but the keyboard is so small you can't type anyway).
Seriously, the HD is fantastic. Screen is amazing, battery life is very good and the size is just right (not too big, not too small).
The only thing I really don't like on the HD (same on the diamond) is the poor camera. It's fine for dead things but the moment you have any movement then goodbye quality !
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No contest (for me) - take the HD. But for you, you might prefer smaller memory, tiny screen and horrible diamond back that does not lay flat on a surface (but the keyboard is so small you can't type anyway).
Seriously, the HD is fantastic. Screen is amazing, battery life is very good and the size is just right (not too big, not too small).
The only thing I really don't like on the HD (same on the diamond) is the poor camera. It's fine for dead things but the moment you have any movement then goodbye quality !
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Agreed, though I'd buy a separate camera!!
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Agreed, though I'd buy a separate camera!!
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Done that - Panasonic Lumix LZ28 - amazing, if only they could build it into the size of the HD !
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Done that - Panasonic Lumix LZ28 - amazing, if only they could build it into the size of the HD !
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Nice one. This is something that has always annoyed me with WM & HTC. They are behind other manufacturers when it comes to camera quality. Why is it that HTC release phone after phone with no real improvement in camera? and where is the bloody flash!!!!
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Nice one. This is something that has always annoyed me with WM & HTC. They are behind other manufacturers when it comes to camera quality. Why is it that HTC release phone after phone with no real improvement in camera? and where is the bloody flash!!!!
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I agree. Technically it's possible. I had for a few days an Omnia which was rubbish in virtually all aspects except the rather good camera (the sound also was quite good).
HTC's weak spot does seem to be the camera/video capabilities.
I do use the HD for taking snaps of pages, posters, etc but I've given up trying to photo anything living.
thanks for that...I thought as much. I just wanted to hear from users to confirm. I flashed the HD with Dutty's 2.3 Extreme last night...then noticed he just released 2.4 Extreme. I've downloaded it...it's ready to go onto the HD. By the time I configure it, Dutty will probably have released another three versions though.
Hi fellow Xda members.
I'm considering of changing my N95 8GB out with a new HTC device. I just can't decide between the HD or the Diamond2.
As I see it the HD has a bigger screen and therefore more chunky and less handy. And the price tag of the Diamond2 is much lower. Is it true that other than that they are identical?
Does the screen size really matter that much, I will use it mostly for email and internet surfing.
What would you chose? Hope someone can make my decision making easier.
Thanks a lot
I haven't had the new Diamond in my hand, but I've been using my HD for three months now. The size is absolutely perfect, it's just right. It's as big as it can get without being too uncomfortable to wear in the pocket or use with a single hand.
I'd say go for the HD, but I'm not familiar with Diamond 2's price tag, if that's your deciding factor. It really boils down to whether you think that the larger screen and form factor (TD2 is ugly) are worth it.
The price tag isn't really a deciding factor. I really like the big screen of the HD
Is there any news on the video recording capabilities of the new TD2 ?
Or is it the same as the HD?
Screen size
Battery life
Zoom bar on Diamond2
3.5mm jack on TouchHD
Housing of TouchHD vs Housing of Diamond2
Price tag
Btw, diamond2 should be more expensive or just as expensive as the touch hd since it's a new device even thought it's a lower end device.
Hey Mate
one of my work mates has the Diamond and after he seen my HD he regrets the purchase once ur familiar with the HD there is no other you want, as long as you use a video convertor easily found on this site it works great my VIDS are so clear and the sounds is awesome my whole company is jealous
i think the screen size of the hd is an important feature in a keyboard-less device like this
less screen size equals smaller virtual keys
and bigger pain when writing
HD every time. Big screen is fantastic but not too big. Any bigger (ref Toshiba) and it would be cumbersome.
For internet surfing - that was one of your needs - the HD is great. Here is where the big screen and high resolution really shows.
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Hey Mate
one of my work mates has the Diamond and after he seen my HD he regrets the purchase once ur familiar with the HD there is no other you want, as long as you use a video convertor easily found on this site it works great my VIDS are so clear and the sounds is awesome my whole company is jealous
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What does the video converter do? Do you use it after you record something with the HD to make the quality better?
Thanks a lot for the reply everybody, so I guess the HD isn't chunky and too big after all :-D
Does anyone know the specs for the video recording of the new TD2?
Check out PDADB.
You'll see that the new Diamond II has the same camera as the Touch HD.
By the way, a videoconverter converts a video
It converts a video to a size that's optimized for the screen on your phone.
Means you can scale your vids too 480x800 and having the quality optimized so it'll look fabulous on your phone.
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Check out PDADB.
You'll see that the new Diamond II has the same camera as the Touch HD.
By the way, a videoconverter converts a video
It converts a video to a size that's optimized for the screen on your phone.
Means you can scale your vids too 480x800 and having the quality optimized so it'll look fabulous on your phone.
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Okay thanks..
haha I know what it means
But maybe it could do some magic so that the recording got better hahaha
Because there is such a program for Samsung Omnia...
for me it was the screen size... had been using BlueAngel for past 4 yrs.... it is still working fine.... only hiccup was that it did not support faster data connection (only GPRS... no Edge or 3G). only thing that I miss in HD right now is the h/w keyboard.... but i'm getting used to the onscreen qwerty of HD.
Never used the TD2 but I used to have the original TD and that was simply awfull!
It kept hanging, had an earth problem and was really crap for signal, check the specs of the processor/RAM out before you make a decision!
I have the HD now and can say it's absolutely fantastic, it is the perfect size and coming from the TD it feels more comfortable aswell!
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Okay thanks..
haha I know what it means
But maybe it could do some magic so that the recording got better hahaha
Because there is such a program for Samsung Omnia...
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Not that I know off.
IF there's a similiar program for the Touch HD, I'd be happy to use it too.
As far as camerawise, my personal opinion is to rather have a pixon, n96 or a x1.
In my opinion phones for the "more standard users" but with better camera's.
I'm thinking of getting the Diamond2. I lost my HD on holiday a couple of weeks ago and if the insurance comes back with money instead of a new HD I'd like a change. There isn't a massive difference in screen size, but the diamond2 is slated for an official upgrade to WM6.5 when it arrives later this year. I won't miss the 3.5mm socket since I never really used it on the HD. Battery life might be the only killer for me as its not as well specced as the HD in that department.
i should go for the pro 2 because i hate the onscreen keybord
Hey guys new member of the forum i will soon be getting a new phone and it will be either the Touch Pro 2 or the Touch HD. I'm not sure which one to get as i can live without a hardware keyboard which makes the device slimmer and easier to hold, but the question is what is the difference between the 2 phones? are they running the exact same software with the same features etc etc? if they operate exactly the same the HD looks nicer in my opinion, this will be my first time owning a windows mobile, will both phones get the same updates/custom roms. Other peoples opinions on these phones would be a great help, thanks in advance.
Sorry if this is not the correct section to be posting this.
If it was me, I'd maybe hold out for the HTC Leo, the HD's successor
Another thread which is kinda similar regarding people asking what to get after the HD maybe worth a read
thanks for your reply i will have a read of that, the issue is my contract runs out soon and the Leo doesn't yet have a release date and will be getting a new phone the day my contract runs out as i can't get through the day without my phone lol.
Isn't much difference apart from the qwerty keyboard, screen size, D-pad and camera. Generally everything else is similar. Check both the specs and read the wiki for both devices, have a look at the rom forums on both to see whats available.
It would most likely come down what you want, or what your looking for in a device. Basically personal opinion.
TP2 every day in the week.
thanks for the feedback guys. Well i prefer a slightly bigger screen and a slimmer looking phone and find the TP2 to be a little bulky, but if the software is the same this helps a lot as i like the look of the software from the TP2 which will be the same on the HD.
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TP2 every day in the week.
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could you maybe give some reasons on your view on why this would be the best choice? Thanks
The HD .. Huge screen .. and um... rather slim and cute looking .. I have a black silicone suround for it and mirror suraface.... and a huge screen with a huge resoultion .. did I mention that?
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The HD .. Huge screen .. and um... rather slim and cute looking .. I have a black silicone suround for it and mirror suraface.... and a huge screen with a huge resoultion .. did I mention that?
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Huge screen, but huge screen means less pixels = less quality. TP2 got a huge advantage when it comes down to screen resolution vs. HD. And the TP2 got a keyboard and 4 hardware buttons you can actually feel.
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Huge screen, but huge screen means less pixels = less quality. TP2 got a huge advantage when it comes down to screen resolution vs. HD.
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You're kidding, right? TP2 and HD both have WVGA - you're not seriously telling me that the pixel density on the HD is not high enough? I doubt you could even tell the difference between the two concerning DPI!
And I'd rather have a larger screen than a smaller one - even if the higher DPI would make a difference... What's the use of having a higher DPI on a smaller screen?
Hd is better in music as it has 3.5 mm audio jack which means better sound quality and also hd is higher in price (the only issue is that hd will not get wm6.5 officially from htc ) but i think it will but htc does not announce that to sell alot of the recent devices
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Hd is better in music as it has 3.5 mm audio jack which means better sound quality and also hd is higher in price (the only issue is that hd will not get wm6.5 officially from htc ) but i think it will but htc does not announce that to sell alot of the recent devices
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I have a Touch HD, although it is in for repairs at the moment, and would consider the TP2 but the lack of a headphone jack is killing me. I live in the US and have not had a chance to play with the TP2. I have AT&T which I am assuming will not have the headphone jack like the Sprint and Verizon (CDMA) model has, Lucky Bastards!!! Anyway, that is what will probably stop me from getting the TP2.
I am sure there will be other options with a headphone jack in the future since HTC has made it clear that most future devices will have them. TP3?? I think they are a little sore from the lashing they took for not putting it in the TP2 which is clearly a great multimedia device. Kida like buying some of the original flat panel tv's that didn't have a TV tuner or speakers. Kinda defeats the purpose.
Well I personally recomend the Touch HD (not only for the reason that I have it and I love it ) when I was choosing my device I was looking for the bigest screen on the market as I like browsing the internet a lot and let me say this BIGGER IS BETTER when we are talking about PPC's nothing can change that also you get a cool design that gets the "WOW" effect from anyone and your pants will not fall to the ground when you are carying it in your pocket.It really depends on the person but for me if I have two phones with almost equal specifications I'll go for the bigger screen even if it is 0,1 inches bigger than the other one.Leo is probably my next device but I heard great things about TOSHIBA's TG01 4.1 inch monster with 1ghz proccessor that's only 10mm thick if you can get your hands on that (it's available in some areas) I would recommend that.
If you are only using one phone I would get the TP2. As I already have the E71 for emails etc I ordered the Touch HD yesterday as a semi tablet.
if it were me, id let my contract run out, continue using the service with your old phone until Leo is released, then upgrade if your carrier runs with the leo, if it doesnt id then upgrade to the most expencive phone they offer then leaving it in its box id flog it on ebay an use the money to buy the leo...
just my thoughts