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Universal - What files can be moved to SD card?

Hi!
In order to conserve memory space on the Universal what are the fiiles that can be moved to the SD card without affecting its performance?
Lets start by making a list.
a) Moving IE cache, cookies and history through registry settings
Go to "HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Explorer\Shell Folders\Cache".
You can change the default value "\Windows\Profiles\Guest\Temporary Internet Files" to "\Storage_Card\ie\cache".
Change the other values in the Shell Folders section of the registry to the folders you created and then soft reset.
b) Today's themes can be moved to the SD card's root directory
c) Ringtones?
d) Camera's pictures and recorded videos?
e) pim?
f) IE favorites?
g) Voice tags?
h) Others like dlls etc
Could the required reistry settings be posted here, if necessary
Thanks

This is a very interesting topic IMHO.
Worth to be "revived"!
What else can be moved to SD?
Thx!
JP

keep in mind that "main memory" is flash ROM on the Universal. Technically not very different from a SD card. More of a question "what files do I need to have on the device when the SD card is not inserted".
Unlock the extended ROM and move that contents over to the SD card - gives you 10 MB more Flash ROM.
There is not much point in moving DLLs and other stuff over to the SD card, since those DLLs etc are in the system ROM which is locked. they will still occupy the space even if you have "moved" them.
You cannot influence the true main memory (the RAM) any more in WM5

Picture & videos
Pictures and videos can already be stored to your SD card by opening the camera and clicking the setting button, then going to tools and the general tab. Select Storage Card from the drop down menu where it says 'Save as'

I wonder if in your ROM version the changes you make to PIE will keep. My experience with changing the default PIE cache size is that it will not stay on the new setting, but reverts to the old value. It may take a few days, to a week but changes are not persistent.

A few issues to consider
First, on soime devices there is a delay between coming back from sleep and getting the storage card active. This can mean that programs stored there won't work correctly. An example of this is MS Voice Commander. Anything that will be left running shouldn't be installed on the SD card.
Also remember that an SD card has different characteristics than RAM and one of those is a limit on the number of times that a spot can be rewritten. Putting things like your PIE cache on the card isn't a great idea unless you want to have errors or keep replacing the card. For data that doesn't change frequenty, it is fine.

Where is all of my storage going?!?!?

I went to take a picture today with my 8125 and it said i only had 22 remaining.... i swear a few days ago it was well over 50. Im assuming the pictures get saved to the "storage" memory by default so i checked my memory and it says i only have 6.5 mb left. I have no clue how this is possible since i dont even have a lot of programs installed. here is what i have installed 3rd party:
tonaya weather to go
magic button
agile messenger
TCPMP with two plugins
TomTom w/ one voice
Not sure what this one is but : FdcSoft PPCContacts manager. (let mek now if i can delete this one)
along with that i have 13 full res pictures and the stock ones it came with. Im running aku2.3 if that has any affect...
like i said i just dont understand how i am using almost 40mb out of 47. and im not quite sure what program memory consists of but that is almost have full at around 22mb of 44mb. Thanks for the help

use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics

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use activesync to delete some unneccessary sound files, and pics
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even if I do that it seems like it would only free up a few mb`s if that....it seems like something else is hogging my space.

DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.

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DO not assume anything. Usually by default, items are stored to your Main Memory. Go in and check all your programs, change the default "save to" and clear cache and temp files.
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I can't say I understand...could you please explain a little more please. do all of the new programs I install go to storage memory or program? I'm just confsed on what to clear out

well i posted this topic earlier today and i said that i had around 6mb of free storage space. I just went to install opera and it said my storage space was down to 2mb! I havnt installed anything or taken any pictures since i started this topic and i lost 4mb of storage already. How is this happening?? I did 2 soft resets and my storage memory never went up. Im really confused as to how this thing is eating my storage memory without me doing anything. I had to delete agile messenger just to gain some space! Please help with this

Storage mem is where you install apps and where apps by default save their files (pictures, video's, temp files, IE cache, Word documents etc). When you use your cam to take pictures, they come in the mydocuments folder on your storage mem. To change this, you have to go into the options of all apps you use and change the default storage location for the files to SD card. For instance: in the camera app, go to the settings, options, general and change the location to storage card.
With file explorer you can search your device for these files, perhaps your pics are taking up so much space? You can also use the built-in search function in start-programs and search for files larger than 64 kb, that should show you the culprits.
Program Mem under WM5 is only used to run apps, not to store them. It wll gradually fill up since not all apps are properly closed, even with task managers. Soft-resetting will empty your program mem from these apps and free up your RAM.
Storage mem is ROM mem and will not be emptied by a soft reset. There must be a lot of files in your storage mem that take up the place, so find out which apps do that. perhaps you have been surfing and there are large temp files from IE on your device?

Thanks for the advice, that is pretty much the answer i needed. One more question though, where should i regularly look to delete files? I will change my picture save location to my stroage card but what are some places i should always be clearing out? Thanks
Edit: I think i may have found the main culprit....one i forgot i transfered a 6mb song for a ring tone and second i went to windows=profiles=guest=temp internet files and cleared all that out and now im up to 22mb of free storgage! Is there any way i can not have it save the temp files or something? Also, in the windows folder it has all of my sounds/ring tones and those same files are also in the Rings folder. It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder and i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder and have it not work. What should i do?

You can run the search function in start-programs regularly if your storage mem goes down to fast for your liking to see large files that hog your storage mem (like files and frames in your temp folder that you downloaded or some app dumped there).
To clear out the IE cache, start IE, tap menu-options-memory and click the buttons delete history and delete files.
I have no idea which other locations to check, I only applied the camera option and clear out the IE cache once in a while (f I remember to). I have lots of apps installed in storage mem and still approx 15 MB free, so freeing up space has never been an issue for me.
good luck with it!
PS judging on your installed apps, I have no idea what can hog your storage so extremely. Perhaps the weather app is saving all downloaded data somewhere on main? I presume that your TT maps are on storage card (they are too big for intenal strage anyway)
PPS AFAIK PPCContact Manager helps you to select all your contacts in one go, for batch sending them trough BT to e.g. a BT carkit or other operations you want to carry out involving all contacts instead of one by one. tap and hold on a contact and you should see "Select all contacts" in the pop-up menu.

youve been a huge help koksie, i appreciate it. Any idea why my soungs are stored in the windows folder and under windows/rings? It wont let me delete them out of the windows folder but it will out of the rings folder. The only reason i dont want to delete them out of the rings folder is i feel if i do then i wont be able to select the deleted ones as ring tones even though they are still in my windows folder. Maybe i should just leave this as is...

Have a search for a free utility called Where Is My RAM? WIMR. As I can best recall this will run on WM5 too and will list your files in order of size. A real boon!

There's a program called Registry Wizard made by one of the geniuses here that will set your IE temp/cache files to be saved to the storage card. I use it and love it! It also has a lot of other tweaks for performance, annoyances, etc....
Do a search for it.
Hell....it's still on the first page when I do a search for "8125"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=39725&highlight=8125

I store all my songs on the storage mini SD card. Only my ringtones and mp3 I want to set as ringtone are in the windows/rings dir. All the songs I only use for listening are on my SD card. Use total Commander (freeware) to delete all the stuff you don't need in the windows dir. This app has more possibilities than the standard file explorer. Just save your songs you need for ringtones on your main mem (windows/rings) and move all other songs to your SD card. Sorry, kinda wasted right now, just got home at 4.30 AM after "some" drinking, so I might not make much sense, but I might be more clear later on after some sleep...

Reference Page for Folder Structure in HD2

hello everybody,
i am searching here for a while and couldn´t find any helpful webpage or forum thread here that shows me, where are the standard folders located ( registry settings ) in WM6.5 or in special for the HTC HD2.
i would like to re-arrange any folder for media files ( ringtones, mp3-music, videos,documents, ebook and so on....)
to an easier structure in \\storage card and saving memory/space in mydevice
for that reason i´d like to know where are folders for what reason of standard-copy paths in \\mydevice and \\storagecard to erase un-needed things and avoid duplicating
the goal is to have easier folders to locate files
like
\\strorage card\Pictures
\\strorage card\Videos
\\strorage card\Music
\\strorage card\Ringtones
\\strorage card\Documents
and make sure that standard applications use that new paths for managing
i think i am not the only person who is interested in that, otherwise sorry for disturbing
thank you
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Everything you mentioned happened to be under \\My Documents. They are part of file sync to Windows.
It is a bad idea to place ring tones on SD card. It probably won't work.

thanks for that info.
that was indeed my intention also to change ringtones to storagecard. i am aware that didnt´ work , but with changing reg-keys maybe..any idea where they are ?

Yeah, don't put anything on the storage card that your device might need at any given time. Even if you never remove your card, it won't always be available when needed. For instance, when your device wakes up from an incoming phone call, it can't access the storage card right away since it may take a moment to activate the reader. Therefore it might not be able to use a ringtone stored there.
For the same reason, I wouldn't redirect the "standard" locations to the storage card through a registry change if I were you. You never know how the device will react if it wakes up and doesn't find its "My Documents" folder right away.
Other than that, it doesn't really matter where you put your media files: most of the built-in applications look for them everywhere. So if you want to save internal storage space, you can move most media stuff to your storage card without redirecting the default folders.
For music, I'd say go for "\\strorage card\Music", since that's where music files are automatically stored when you sync with Windows Media Player on the desktop.
For pictures, you might want to use "\\strorage card\DCIM\100MEDIA", since that's where the camera puts new photo's; but "\\strorage card\Pictures" will work just as well. HTC Album will pick up pics anywhere you put them. You can even choose which folder to display in the Sense tab. From the Sense tab, just go to > "Album" > "Albums", pick the one you want, then > "Menu" > "Set as favorite".
As you can see, these will work without redirecting the default folders to your storage card. If, however, you want to try anyway and don't mind the risk of experimenting, the content of this registry key looks promising:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Explorer\Shell Folders
Good luck!

If you want to change the location where the camera stores new pics, you might want to look at this key:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/System/Pictures/Camera/OEM/PictureLocation
But again: I haven't tried this, so use at your own risk!

Robrecht said:
For music, I'd say go for "\\strorage card\Music", since that's where music files are automatically stored when you sync with Windows Media Player on the desktop.
For pictures, you might want to use "\\strorage card\DCIM\100MEDIA", since that's where the camera puts new photo's; but "\\strorage card\Pictures" will work just as well. HTC Album will pick up pics anywhere you put them. You can even choose which folder to display in the Sense tab. From the Sense tab, just go to > "Album" > "Albums", pick the one you want, then > "Menu" > "Set as favorite".
As you can see, these will work without redirecting the default folders to your storage card. If, however, you want to try anyway and don't mind the risk of experimenting, the content of this registry key looks promising:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\Explorer\Shell Folders
Good luck!
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thanks for that imput, thats what i need for get the knot out of my brain :=)
thanks so much...i will try that hints.

how are your folders organized on memory card?

what is the best way to organize your memory card
how to name your folders fro easier navigation and so they show up in phone's apps by default.
like picture and video folders .
and what are default HD2 folders?
please all yaalll show your folder structure on the card how it is setup.
heres what i have.
audio
books
DCIM
documents
downloads
ebooks
manuals
my documents
program files
videos
zero ( unsorted folder) zero is to make it last in line.

Mine is almost identical to yours (I call "audio" music, and only have an "ebooks" folder).
The only one I have extra is one called "Cabs", which I generally strip out an dput on my PC every couple of months, but until then it's a respository of ones I've tried and liked since my last ROM flash.
I also keep all unsorted files (and also videos) in the root of the drive, but I may start being more organised, and have a "z_More" folder too

ALLWAYSON - for programs that dont need to be installed, like notepad.exe, my provxml files, sendandrecieveall.exe, GPRSEnabler/disabler, googlemaps (I use teh 'fake google maps'using VJBrisk tweak in my rom to allow google maps to run from there, and so not need reinstalling every time i hard reset)
Programs in this folder have hardcoded quicklinks cooked into my ROM to them.
AUTOINSTALL - all my most used cabs live in there, and the cooked roms auto install them whenever i hard reset. Things like resco, opera, MYTWEAKS.cab
CABSTORE - for cabs that i want to have with me, but dont always need to have installed
DCIM - default images folder
INCOMING - my registry tweaks (MYTWEAKS.CAB) point opera and bluetooth to download everything to this folder.
MUSIC - pretty self explanatory
PROGRAM FILES - again, says it all in the name
SCRAP - like a temp folder, i empty it weekly or so.

where does winmo store its wallpapers?
its hella annoying to go thru the whole folder sequence every tie you close the album since thres no back button from full screen preview.

im mostly trying to figure out how to store images and where
i setup my wallpapers by size(480x800 folder name)
when i tried to use that folder as a default for my wallpapers from cht it shows blank album with no pictures...

[Q] external sd card general questions

hi, i've just got my iconia and I am also new on the Android world. A couple of things I've noticed about the external SD card that maybe somebody could help me to understand.
1.- when I hook my tablet to my windows 7 laptop, I get to see the internal memory on the win explorer but not the external card, so is this normal or do I have to look for more updated drivers on my PC?
2.- with the external SD card on I get to see my files on an android file manager and I get to open any file individually by getting the "select app for opening this file", but this is time consuming so I am wondering if my stock lumiread, gallery, multimedia player have the current limitation of only reading the content from the internal memory. If so, what free alternatives do I have to replace stock apps?

A couple of answers
First, if you install File Manager HD, you won't need to tether your Iconia to your laptop any more. In the app, open the 'menu' and touch 'LAN Connections'. Your Windows PC will show up as an IP address. Make sure to change the IP Address to a computer name (long press, rename) so that next time File Manager won't have to search for it every time. You will be able to transfer anything on the tab to the 'Public' folder on the PC, and vice versa. Depending on what folders are shared on the PC, you will be able to access more on the PC.
I keep my music on my external SD card in a folder named 'My Music'. The stock music/multimedia players found them with no problem.
I haven't tried moving any books for Lumiread to the external SD card, so all I can suggest is to look at the file structure and duplicate it on the ext SD card, copy a book into it (a new one, or move an existing one) and see if it finds it. I don't see anything within the app to set search/storage directories, but maybe it will scan everything like the music apps do.
Have fun with you new Tab. The more you play with it the more you will understand Honeycomb and it won't seem so foreign to you. It does pretty much everything every other OS does, just a little different way.
Kp

Thanks Ken, I downloaded FMHD and will try it soon. I also though about reproducing the lumiread folder on the ext sd card but no luck, so probably a future update on the app will fix that. I tried this as well copying the pictures folder (and also renaming it as 'My Pictures') but the stock gallery just won't see the image files, is there any chance you could see if you get the same results? I have not tried yet on the music stock app. Again, thanks for your help, it is great to find nice people on the web with similar tech passions as I do

Hello Ken, like that app. Wondering if it would be an easy way to tether to my HTC Evo? Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
Bob

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sensei22 said:
Thanks Ken, I downloaded FMHD and will try it soon. I also though about reproducing the lumiread folder on the ext sd card but no luck, so probably a future update on the app will fix that. I tried this as well copying the pictures folder (and also renaming it as 'My Pictures') but the stock gallery just won't see the image files, is there any chance you could see if you get the same results? I have not tried yet on the music stock app. Again, thanks for your help, it is great to find nice people on the web with similar tech passions as I do
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I use Quickpic from the Market (free) since it lets you choose which drives/directories to scan.
Here is what you do.
1. Create the My Pics directory on the External SD card with File Manager HD, put a few pics in it.
2. After installing Quickpic, start the app. It will display everything it finds on the internal SD Card.
3. Touch the Menu button from the main screen.
4. Choose SETTINGS-INCLUDED FOLDERS-ADD
5. Tap the double dots at the top of the list, it will display all the memory devices attached.
6. Tap EXTERNAL_SD. All directories on the card will be displayed. Press OK.
Now press the 'back' button and you will see your pics that are anywhere on the External SD card.
All I did to get the A500 music player to find the music on the External SD card was run the NemoPlayer app and open the music. Once I did that the regular music app found them, too.
Have fun!

Evo
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Hello Ken, like that app. Wondering if it would be an easy way to tether to my HTC Evo? Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
Bob
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Don't quote me on this, but I don't think so. From what I have seen and heard so far it is only connecting to Windows shares. I don't have an Android phone to test with, so can't swear to it, but I know it doesn't see an iPhone, so likely won't see a Mac either.
Anyone else been able to connect to anything but a Windows share? Let us know if you have, and what app you used please.