Yeaa got wifi tether to work. Optimize tips please? - G1 General

Hey all, FINALLY aNetshare is working, nice lil app. Im used to having my cell phones be able to be used as a modem. Having the G1 work as a wireless router tho.. is one step up. It ran good enough to play Final Fantasy XI, so thats a good test for me right there. However it is a slight more sluggish then my Nokia 6630 (S60 phones) and my Moto Razr when it was plugged in via cable.
Was wondering, anyone have some optimize tips to make the Wifi router or the PC utilize this connection and speed it up some? Im not in a 3G area, so always been using EDGE speed, but as I said, my other phones were a "slight" bit faster being used as a modem vs a router. Thanks. =)

wifi will be slower than the USB cable, this is due to sending the signal over cable vs transmitting over air. There wont be anyway to make this faster, however try using pdanet it works perfectly for me.

pdanet Ill look into, is it better then anetshare?
Also G1 doesnt have a USB cable modem way to hook up does it? Also when I used bluetooth on my Nokia 6630, the speed actually wasnt too bad. The Moto Razr worked well too via USB however it did freeze up the phone once and awhile. (Luckily I had my phone flash/flexed to work better then OEM)
Edit: Ok I just found it, I see pdanet IS usb based. Cool, Can this work seperate from the wireless one? Or is it bad to have both installed at the same time?

You can have both installed at the same time.

I am trying to download the PDA Net and my phone is rooted. I cannot get the driver installed properly in Device Manager. I am running XP Home. I have tried everything to get this tethering application. I just got the new Cupcake download. Do you think T-mobile put something in that download to prevent me from being able to load the PDAnet program?

Which driver? The one that you would use for fastboot and adb commands or the standard ones?

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HTC JasJar as a wireless modem for Laptop, does this work ok

I assume I can plug in the USB adapter into my Jasjar and plug the other end into a laptop, and this will bring the internet to it.
I dont have laptop, as of yet, been a desktop junkie for years !
What switchs are there to turn on either device, I guess connection is very slow, what are the issues ??
Please advise...
Yes, it works really well. I use mine sometimes only when I REALLY need a full screen web browser, or something my PPC cannot yet substitute.
Before I have my Universal, I used my cell phone/PPC for almost every internet need. But since I have my Uni, because most things can be done with the Uni without the laptop, the Uni is only used as a wireless modem when its really needed only.
All three methods: using USB connection, using BT, or using Infrared, are working well. Using USB connection gives the highest and most reliable connection, though I never have any problem also using BT or Infrared. Infrared is kind of handy, you do not need any cable/BT dongle to plug into your laptop. I use all methods.
Speed to the internet will depend on the data service available and of course, you have subsribed to it. Like over here in the US, with T-Mobile, we only have GPRS. Universal does not support EDGE, so mostly I only experience 56K-150KB speed connection, which for me, acceptable.

Internet Sharing With Xbox Live ???

Joined this site a while ago, and needless to say, I've been literally blown away by it. The members of this site are just incredibly talented; I've been able to make my 8525 look and function just fantastic, and just about any fix/patch I've been able to locate through this site.
Currently using Custel WM6 rom and it's so stable and faster than the WM5 I had (though it was so hard to choose with so MANY excellent cooked roms to choose from)...
So, since it seems there's no limit to what can be done with these great devices, I was wondering if it is at all possible to use an 8525 to connect an Xbox 360 to Xbox Live?? I am able to connect using Internet Connection Sharing via USB to my laptop running Vista Ult. and get great surfing speed, so is there any way to somehow configure it to get the 360 to connect to Live through it? Could the 8525 be connected directly to the 360 (prob not likely) or can it be set up using the laptop to share the connection??
Any help/answers on this would be greatly appreciated!!!
I may be wrong, but I don't think that this is possible.
As far as I know, the xbox has no bluetooth pan support, and I don't think it is possible to have an USB modem directly setuped.
The remaining possibilities are: through the RJ45 or through the wifi. Sadly the hermes has no RJ45 connector, and it is unable to become an acces-point nor an add-hock host.
I just wanted to say that the idea of using a Hermes to connect an xbox 360 to xbox live would be just about the coolest thing ever done with a cell phone.
Is it possible to connect a 360 to XBL via a PC/laptop?
Dammit!!
Well, was worth a try, especially before tangling myself in wires trynna wing it... Guess I will be calling those Optimum guys for my XB Live fix...
Precisely what I was thinking. Was sitting here surfing using the phone as a modem, getting great speed, then thought, 'hey it would be cool as f%#$# to connect to Live with this...' I mean, I know the 8525 could probably handle it... The question is, what CANT this phone do?!
HOLLIDAY1183 said:
Joined this site a while ago, and needless to say, I've been literally blown away by it. The members of this site are just incredibly talented; I've been able to make my 8525 look and function just fantastic, and just about any fix/patch I've been able to locate through this site.
Currently using Custel WM6 rom and it's so stable and faster than the WM5 I had (though it was so hard to choose with so MANY excellent cooked roms to choose from)...
So, since it seems there's no limit to what can be done with these great devices, I was wondering if it is at all possible to use an 8525 to connect an Xbox 360 to Xbox Live?? I am able to connect using Internet Connection Sharing via USB to my laptop running Vista Ult. and get great surfing speed, so is there any way to somehow configure it to get the 360 to connect to Live through it? Could the 8525 be connected directly to the 360 (prob not likely) or can it be set up using the laptop to share the connection??
Any help/answers on this would be greatly appreciated!!!
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Just tried it. Plugged it in and enabled Internet Connection Sharing, and the phone starts charging, but says "Check USB Connection" I'm not much of a hacker, so I can't attempt any driver\software hacks to get it working. You'd probably have to write a driver for the XBox to recognize the phone, and possibly vice versa. Definitly possible. Probably never going to happen though.
I'm doing it now. I connected the 8525 by USB to my computer. Then I open up the Internet Sharing program that uses the phone as a USB modem (I'm using Black Majic ROM btw). Then I select connect on the program on my 8525. Once it connects, I go to my Network Connections on my PC. I have the RJ-45 connected from the XBOX 360 to the ethernet port on my PC. I click once on the connection that says Local Area Connection # (mine is 13, everyones would be different) Windows Mobile Based Internet Sharing Device, then I hold Ctrl on my PC keyboard and click on the other connection (the one for my ethernet port). Once both are highlighted, you can right click on either one and select Bridge (I believe thats the one, anything that says Bridge on it) and let Windows bridge the connections and you should be set. Sorry if my explaining isn't very good.
Via a PC it should indeed be not an issue (as explained above).
To do it directly, it should work with an ethernet-bluetooth bridge. I'm
using 2 ethernet-wifi bridges to connect a TV and a PC to a wifi router,
but I'm pretty sure ethernet-bluetooth bridges also exist.
Jörg
Wow, according to drodri I was pretty close to having it right before... I will try that setup in a sec... also, is there a way to incorporate my wireless-G linksys router into this, or no? Is that in Vista?
I appreciate your input... I've done exactly the same as your setup, and when I go into Network Connections, it has the 8525 listed as Remote NDIS based Internet Sharing Device (Internet Connect #5) & the ethernet connection as Local Area Connection (Unidentified Network)... In the Network and Sharing Center, do I make the ethernet connection Private, or leave it Public? Or does it matter at all... because it still for some reason won't connect to Live, it still fails the IP test... there must be a setting or configuration I'm missing here, I just know it
You could also possibly use an ethernet to wifi device (wireless access point) to go from ethernet to wifi on the 360, then use a wireless network to the TyTN (ad-hoc mode rather than ap mode) and use that to run the connection..
but..
a) its an expensive way to do it
b) it needs extra hardware
c) it may not work (can the tytn do ICS over wifi rather than usb? DUN mode may work on the newer roms that will have it - but does DUN work over wifi)
d) the access point would need to initiate the connection to the phone while also doing dhcp for the xbox.. it should work.. and id try it for you.. except that it seems like a horribly complex way to do it.
Hmm... maybe I'll give it a shot.
Where there's a will, there's a way
I think the ideal goal here would be straight from 360 to Hermes. USB or wifi, with a small adaptor if needed. It would be beautiful if someone could write drivers so you could just plug 'er in with USB and use the built in Internet Sharing on the Hermes.
Obviously those are high hopes, and in a perfect world everything would automatically work like that. *drools over universal compatibility*
dtx said:
I think the ideal goal here would be straight from 360 to Hermes. USB or wifi, with a small adaptor if needed. It would be beautiful if someone could write drivers so you could just plug 'er in with USB and use the built in Internet Sharing on the Hermes.
Obviously those are high hopes, and in a perfect world everything would automatically work like that. *drools over universal compatibility*
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For USB The problem is the driver would have to be on the 360.. it's 100% impossible.
Even if you can run unsigned code on your 360, you'd also have to be some kind of coding,hardware modding, hacking junkie to even try to write a 360 driver; on top of which to do it for a crazy reason like interfacing to one mobile phone... that would be die hard madness!
Microsoft on the other hand could probably whip it up in 5 minutes as the xbox already supports everything that's needed except an RNDIS driver to enumerate the phone as a network card. Problem being the target audience is small; possibly even just you guys
Wifi is more likely to happen as you dont really need to modify the 360, if someone wrote a driver to make the phone look like a wireless AP (if thats possible with its wifi chipset) and assuming ICS on WM6 supports wifi connection to the PC/360 (im not sure it does) then it should work fine. (Has anyone checked if the 360 wifi adapter can support a connection to non-ap ad-hoc wifi? if it can then this might work already if you very lucky - i dont have the wifi link for my 360 or id try it)
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.......if someone wrote a driver to make the phone look like a wireless AP (if thats possible with its wifi chipset) and assuming ICS on WM6 supports wifi connection to the PC/360 (im not sure it does) then it should work fine. (Has anyone checked if the 360 wifi adapter can support a connection to non-ap ad-hoc wifi?....
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Does anybody know if there is already software to make the Hermes a WiFi-Router or make ICS make select WiFi?
I'm going to try this tonight with my regular xbox
There are already instructions on this forum for using your device as a wifi access point. It seems pretty straight-forward. So you should be able to connect any wifi client, including a wifi capable Xbox 360.
8525 / Hermes wifi AP
Hey, I actually did something similar since I didn't want to buy a $100 wireless adapter. I have a PC (but can be done with a laptop) with a wi-fi connection near my 360 all I had to do was use a patch cable to connect the PC to the 360. I am running vista, but Patch cables are hardware that tells the network card they are attached to a like device. It automatically shared my connection and we were able to go on-line. There were other ways I found that suggest changing router settings and such, but this was the easiest way. All you need now to use your phone to get your 360 on-lin is a computer

HSDPA on X1

Ok, I could never get the "internet sharing" to work on x1 with my friends laptop cause i dont have the drivers...so always used Wifirouter.
I find it a little slow, but it works and does work well. However, I read that the x1 supports "HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 2 Mbps" ...but i dont get speeds like that.
If somebody has the files required for connecting the x1 to a laptop and use internet sharing instead of wifirouter...can you upload and post it here? I will then keep them on my storage card for safe keeping.
Also, how do you find internet sharing? Is there any difference in speed compared to wifirouter?
Any help or advice would be great, cheers guy!
I think HSDPA is simply network dependent -when its there you get an H symbol on your signal strength (taskbar) ...when its not there you get the next best thing (3G) and if that's not available you're stuck with plain old slow GPRS (G)
Internet sharing works well for me (obviously depends on the connection you have on the X1 -as above) ...have not used wifirouter so can't say how they compare
7.2 Mbps is theoretical maximum. Your provider is not obliged to provide you with this speed. I get about 1 Mbps for download.
Actually you don't need special drivers for the X1 in order to use tethering. Just connect the X1 to a PC using an USB cable and start the "Internet Sharing" Application on the Xperia. Within the application select "USB Connection" and choose your preconfigured ISP connection profile - é voilà. You will notice that the Xperia appears as a network adapter on the PC. I use that a lot.
Regarding the speed: It really depends on your mobile network. Though my network provider (Vodafone Germany) has some spots where 7,2 MBit/s should be available, I have never had such fast download rates - it's more like 2-3 MBit/s which is still quite okay for me. And even if the network would be capable of such fast transfer rates, the speed will be reduced by the more clients use the same cell.
I also read somewhere (guess it was on SE offical site) that using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only - at least it's worth a try if you're sure that your operator provides such fast transfer rates. I always have both switched on.
Nice, 2-3mbps is a lot faster than i was getting...i guess i will need to try this out.
Regarding my friends laptop, maybe i should have said its win xp but it doesnt have active sync or any x1 soft installed...so maybe thats why its looks for the drivers?
Basically i was wondering if you guys knew where i could get the drivers keep them on my phone for times when im out and can get my proper internet fix
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
How is the battery consumption when using WMWifiRouter, e.g. how long does the battery last? I can imagine this is the worst use-case at all, because you have WiFi active and HSDPA in parallel.
The big advantage when using an USB connection is that the battery is charging while it's connected, though the WiFi method is much more comfortable and flexible.
you do know that 7.2Mbps mega bits per sec? and not megabytes.
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I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
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Actually you do not need a cable, you can have the phone to act as a bluetooth modem through the internet connection sharing , no drivers required what so ever, you will need to pair your phone with the laptop first make sure, that Bluetooth PAN client is checked on the laptop, then start the internet connection sharing on the phone and make sure that you are using bluetooth PAN, and you will have instant access on your laptop, No drivers, No cables
assuming the laptop has bluetooth
wifi is much more standard, so it's handy to have.
The best part here is non of these mrthods are mutually exclusive, so you can use whichever is best for the situation. USB is handy as ICS does drain power, using wifi for it makes my X1 extremely warm...
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... using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only...
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You're right!
sidneylopsides said:
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
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Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
Generic NDIS is one of the system files in windows found under system32, windows will not boot even in safe mode if these drivers are not loaded, ICS works fine as far as i can tell with no extra drivers on any windows XP or later
i downloaded this;
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/NDIS/rndis.mspx
but its from 2005
I hope it works
Ive owned my x1 for about 6months, I have unlimited pda data plan but not tethering plan with my carrier. For some reason I can teather my x1 to my eeePC 901 via USB,but not BT,and get internet when Im not in a wifi spot. It does give me the BT PAN option and my devices are paired but cant get internet connection, only thru USB. Ive tried this multi times for over a month now and have not been charged any data usage or overage on my bill.
I was about to do the r3a update, but was wondering if there was any ninja fixes in this update. Id hate to lose this ability just for a little faster performance.
just use wmwifirouter bro
ActiveSync installation provides the ICS drivers
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Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
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You DO need ActiveSync to be installed before you can use your X1 for ICS.
I tested it yesterday on my Windows XP SP3 laptop: When you connect your WM6 mobile with the ICS program running on it, WinXP demands for a plain Generic NDIS driver but won't find a suitable one. But during ActiveSync installation (version 4.5 worked for me), the USB drivers are updated, and afterwards my X1 got recognized as a "Windows Mobile Internet Connection Sharing Device" or something like that.
ActiveSync is not active during ICS session, but its prior installation is mandatory for it to work.
Greetings,
MiK

[Q] Who is rooted and tethering with a mac via USB?

Title says it all folks. Who here is using an Epic, rooted and tethering just fine via USB? Only one catch....without using PDAnet or other third party apps. Just the phone.
Thanks in advance.
I have no idea how to do this for the life of me, but why not stick with wifi tether? You can lock the phone or put on access control so only you can access it...
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I have no idea how to do this for the life of me, but why not stick with wifi tether? You can lock the phone or put on access control so only you can access it...
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Because these phones heat up quite a bit when running a 4g radio, plugged into a charger, and the wifi radio. I want to tether via usb so that I'm getting power while I tether AND don't have to turn on the wifi radio.
Cut down on heat, increase the life of your battery and phone.
Besides that, it's a feature of the phone that I paid for and I want to be able to use it. Lol.
Ues this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=770388 to root your phone and install clockwork mod
Then flash this kermel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786988 i'am useing the one from 10/24/2010
Then instell this moded wired thether http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803335&highlight=Usb+tether
If u need more help let me know and I can try to help
O BTW USB tether works just fine ;-)
Cool. Thanks for the tutorial here.
I've been trying to be nice about my data and pay for tethering through Sprint without rooting and doing wifi tether/usb but I'm finding that this Epic doesn't play nice with Mac and USB and there's a glitch which doesn't allow me to do 4g hotspot AND voice at the same time. Every time I get a voice call, the hotspot drops the 4g connection as if I was using 3g. ONce the call ends, the phone reconnects to 4g and continues on. I've brought both of these up to Sprint with no resolution as of yet.
is there any advantage using usb vs wifi? besides what you mentioned, but speed wise. is one faster than the other? or are they pretty much the same. i tether alot with wifi and i usually have my phone plugged into the wall charger whenever i do and notice it can get kinda hot sometimes. if there is no speed diff id prob go wired also
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is there any advantage using usb vs wifi? besides what you mentioned, but speed wise. is one faster than the other? or are they pretty much the same. i tether alot with wifi and i usually have my phone plugged into the wall charger whenever i do and notice it can get kinda hot sometimes. if there is no speed diff id prob go wired also
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Speed is the same with 3g as for 4g I have no idea its not in my area :-(
Zulu have u tryed the wired tether app I linked to with a Mac? I'm going to have to test it on my friends macbook. I'm at my girls right now and the only pcs arond are both runing win7 32
I'm running SRF 1.2 w/Genocide 1.1. Earlier tonight, using qbking's excellent video, I used the Spring Hotspot hack. Everything worked perfectly and I can now wirelessly tether my Epic to my PowerBook G4. However, trying to do a wired tether is another story. Although my network preferences lists the Samsung SPH-D700, clicking "connect" doesn't seem to work. What happens is that it'll saying "connecting" for a few seconds, and then I'll get a pop-up reading: "Internet Connect A Modem error occurred. Please verify your settings and try again." Is there a proper way to configure the network preferences for this modem so that I can wire tether my Mac laptop to my Epic?

[Q] USB Wifi Adapter

Hey guys I need some suggestions, what I want to do is use my computer downstairs to play wow. But I don't have a cord that that reaches all the way up stairs to the modem.
We do have wifi but this computer doesn't. So I want to use my MT4G as a USB Wifi adapter. I also don't want to buy one. I also don't receive any data service here. So I need to run of the wifi
I've tried Pda.net but it was way to slow to run anything, the rom i'm using is miui and when i try to tether through usb my comp says it cant find the program to install.
So if you have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!!
Jerald2 said:
Hey guys I need some suggestions, what I want to do is use my computer downstairs to play wow. But I don't have a cord that that reaches all the way up stairs to the modem.
We do have wifi but this computer doesn't. So I want to use my MT4G as a USB Wifi adapter. I also don't want to buy one. I also don't receive any data service here. So I need to run of the wifi
I've tried Pda.net but it was way to slow to run anything, the rom i'm using is miui and when i try to tether through usb my comp says it cant find the program to install.
So if you have any suggestions they would be greatly appreciated. THANKS!!
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Need wow that bad, you can teheter and use your phone as wifi hotspot but can't use it as a wifi card the usb ones are 20 bucks go buy one
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The answer is trivial:
Have your phone with WiFi connected, plug the phone, choose USB tether mode, and it will share its WiFi with the computer.
Tethering shares whatever connectivity the phone has at the moment. Obviously you can't share WiFi connectivity over WiFi, so WiFi hotspot won't work for you, but you can share WiFi connectivity over USB.
No program is needed, if MIUI guys coded it correctly - the virtual device is RNDIS, any Windows should have drivers for it.
If you have Mac - go back to Sense ROM that can share USB with Macs using some other virtual device mode.

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