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GPRS connections out of control?

I am using SPB's GPRS traffic counter and have noticed that without my doing anything, my Jam will download around 100k of data every day (around £0.25 on Vodafone). I can just about survive the financial shock ;-) but I am more worried to know how control connections in general.
Does anyone know what programs on the Jam keep a GPRS connection alive? (I am not using MS Messenger, nor do I have either MS Explorer, the e-mail application or Activesync runnig in the background).
cheers.

I see that you have checked the usual suspects how about MMS this uses GPRS as well maybe you received some? The application you mention (SPB GPRS Monitor) does not tell you which application uses GPRS?

unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...

cseilern said:
unfortunately is not the mms client - I stopped its installation after a hard reset.
I even go as far as killing off the messaging app and internet explorer with the memory control panel to make sure they don't accidentally run in the background.
my guess is a leaky tcp/ip stack, but i'm still looking for ways of controlling outgoing packets...
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I too have the same Issue. Orange billed me for 2.5MB of data. I aint used the darn thing for GPRS.

Alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor !?
Does anyone have any alternetives for SPB GPRS Monitor. This program makes the OS on my i-mate JAM very unstabele. So I had to remove this program.
I hope someone can help me pointing to a good alternetive app ! I also couldn't find an application like a SMS counter. Any idea's ?
Thanks for your help and kind regards,
R.

I NEVER leave GPRS connected. I always 're-connect and cancel' to drop my connection after getting email headers ....
However....
one day, in one session at 12noon I racked up £17 with 02. They can not explain it and I was sitting at my desk at work with the XDA docked at the time!!! (with internet pass through if needed!)
This is worse than premium rate calls (which are closely monitored) ... all 02 can say is that at 12noon I downloaded over 7mb !! end of story! no more details. I don't know how it is possible unless it connected to their stupid movie portal and downloaded a massive trailer on it's own? - which I would of noticed!
Well I have a complaint in with them. Just think how many people could get stung (and I know what i'm doing!)
I'm now going to try the above mentioned GPRS counter, but has anyone tried this one ? .... http://www.all-locations.com/ GPRS Traffic Counter v3.2
Rich

cseilern
Do you have a programme such as SPB Pocket Weather.. or any of those 'weather related' today pluggins?... as they connect via GPRS to download latest weather etc..
Hope you find the mischievous programme!
Gero

how NOT to connect to GPRS

hi all,
i have an unlimited GPRS plan and hence connected 24 hours....
however, this uses up a lot of battery and frankly, there are times when i do not wish to be online!
problem is, even if i disconnect the GPRS, it reconnect automatically after a while.
is there any way to prevent the phone to auto reconnecting?

Search the forum for the modaco nodata cab file
This great tool lets you toggle on/off the connections.
For easy use, you can create a shortcut for it on your today screen and toggle it on/off whenever you want
Hope this helps

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Do you use an exchange server? If you do, it may be due to Active Sync trying to connect to the exchange server.

pfft.. you think GPRS is bad? try EVDO.. my 6700 barely lasts a day (with Activesync/push email)

you could also use a combination of mortscript and vijay555's VJVolubilis to disconnect qutomatically at a time or period (ie, every 10 mins) you define

bbobeckyj said:
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is there any reason nodata would give an error on a wm 6.0 standard device?

Alkemist said:
is there any reason nodata would give an error on a wm 6.0 standard device?
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the only error that i know of is when the phone has no data connection details on it, ie a custom rom which does not include gprs settings, it will give an error until you add the settings.

use something like Advanced Config... You can disable GPRS somewhere in this program... It has many other stuff you can do with your phone...

Any utility to kill Media Net data connection on HTC Diamond?

I need a utility that I can call from Mortscript to terminate existing Media Net data connection. From Mortscript manual, the "Disconnect" command does not work any more after WM5 AKU3. I confirmed that this is true. Does anyone know a solution?
Thanks in advance.

Do you want to kill it after you use it, or kill it so you can't use it?
the second is a lot simpler, I use the Modaco NoData Cab as well as schap's advanced configuration tool to block all internet communications except for wifi.

Herbalisation said:
Do you want to kill it after you use it, or kill it so you can't use it?
the second is a lot simpler, I use the Modaco NoData Cab as well as schap's advanced configuration tool to block all internet communications except for wifi.
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The 1st. It is mainly for iGuidance scripting. With data connection open, iGuidance takes forever to launch. So in the mortscript, I want to terminate the Media Net data connection before launching the iGuidance.

NoData Connection
Hi there .... well I can see you losing money over the automatic data connection .... here is the solution application called NoData.cab ... look for it and it is what I use for now .... it is the best.
NoData: where you can toggle your connections

Instead of doing all that, you can set the data connection's DNS and ALT DNS servers to a fake value. It works for me and iGuidance starts up even with data enabled.

Auto data connection and stay switch on

Hi,
My second problem is that my Iolite activate data connection by itself like it was trying to download or uploade something (MMS or something), but the connection stay alive for a long time and nothing happen.
When I turn off data connection, it turn on again in a few minutes.
To avoid costs I use program which disable all configured data connections (program called "NoData"). But when all connections are disable, my Iolite don't turn off the screen and backlight after inactivity time.
I think that the reason can be in Microsoft Direct Push, but I don't use it.
This article is similarity to my problem: http://khason.net/blog/how-to-disable-exchange-security-policy-for-windows-mobile-devices/
The problem apears today. I have my Iolite for 2-3 weeks.
Help me please... It's so frustrating...
Radek

snorek said:
Hi,
My second problem is that my Iolite activate data connection by itself...
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... first read, then post. Nobody will write the same problem a second time. Here the link (5 or 6 themes under yours): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524825

mirko.prinz said:
... first read, then post. Nobody will write the same problem a second time. Here the link (5 or 6 themes under yours): http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=524825
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The topic you have paste is about totally different problem.
I'm not looking for program which can turn off unused connection, but I'm looking for a reason of unexpected turning on data connection.

snorek said:
The topic you have paste is about totally different problem.
I'm not looking for program which can turn off unused connection, but I'm looking for a reason of unexpected turning on data connection.
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I think, AdvancedConfig will be the right decision. Found it here.

Iolite comes with some apps, which use Data connection. For example Weather (default setting is to update it no matter what) or QuickGPS (downloads sattelite position info). Also when you are browsing via WiFi or ActiveSync, it might sometime disconnect and Data connection is automatically started.
Microsoft DirectPush is used with Exchange server (for example, I use it with my company email) and you must configure it. It is not enabled by default. Anyway, when I don't want to check email all the time, I just disable DirectPush and it stays disabled.
You also might to check, what app is using your DataConnection. Try SPB Wireless Monitor (I think it is trial), which can show you, what app is using which connection.

mirko.prinz said:
I think, AdvancedConfig will be the right decision. Found it here.
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I have this program install already, but I don't see any option which can help me.
Any suggestion?

torrentonly said:
Iolite comes with some apps, which use Data connection. For example Weather (default setting is to update it no matter what) or QuickGPS (downloads sattelite position info). Also when you are browsing via WiFi or ActiveSync, it might sometime disconnect and Data connection is automatically started.
Microsoft DirectPush is used with Exchange server (for example, I use it with my company email) and you must configure it. It is not enabled by default. Anyway, when I don't want to check email all the time, I just disable DirectPush and it stays disabled.
You also might to check, what app is using your DataConnection. Try SPB Wireless Monitor (I think it is trial), which can show you, what app is using which connection.
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Yes, I know that. I turn off weather updater and quickgps (and footprints or something) first day. And I don't have any problem till today.
But what is strange: after disable all data connections some program prevent screen from switch off...
OK, I'll try SPB Wireless Monitor.

Just an idea. Aren't you using CorePlayer or TCPMP? CorePlayer can use network and data connection and also it can override display sleep time.

Advanced Config
in "data connections":
- GPRS auto attach: disabled
Manila TF2D
in "Weather tab"
- menu -> settings -> disable "automatically download weather data"
Settings (Start -> Settings -> System
in "location settings"
- disable AGPS
Messaging
- disable the automatic e-Mail-Download (when it is enabled)
I hope, that will help.
Greetings
edit: OK, i wrote to slowly - 2 posts are come ;-)

torrentonly said:
Just an idea. Aren't you using CorePlayer or TCPMP? CorePlayer can use network and data connection and also it can override display sleep time.
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I think, isn´t so, i use this programm to.

SPB Wireless Manager show me that Palringo was the problem. I've unchecked "run at startup" after first run of Palringo, but it checked again without informing me
THX for help all of you
I hope that Palringo was the only reason

Tell me please, what is Palringo?
Thanks!

mirko.prinz said:
Tell me please, what is Palringo?
Thanks!
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Palringo is powerfull ane free multi-platform instant messaging client. You can sent text, images and voice messages.
It support:
Windows Live Messenger ® (MSN)
AOL ® Instant Messenger (AIM)
Yahoo! ® Messenger
Google Talk ™
ICQ ®
Jabber ®
iChat® / MobileMe ®
QQ ®
Gadu-Gadu ®
Facebook Chat (Alpha)
More info: http://www.palringo.com

Aha, thank you!
Greetings

Dont worry
My Iolite also connect itself to the internet, but i use my iphone 3g sim with it, internet for free XD

cturpel: What's the point of your post?

cturpel said:
My Iolite also connect itself to the internet, but i use my iphone 3g sim with it, internet for free XD
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Great So go abroad

Selectively disable net access by app?

I have a Touch Pro2 which connects to the net every 15 minutes for reasons that I'm not aware of (I have Outlook and Weather set to Manual, have disabled Latitude in Google Maps, etc). SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
Since my provider charges per session this can get quite expensive, so I've been forced to turn 3G/GPRS access on/off manually using NoData.
Is there a way of selectively enabling net access for designated applications only? e.g. allowing it to Opera and Outlook only by default, and selectively enabling other apps on demand?
Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
TIA for any tips
Ian

itm said:
Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
Ian
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Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.

i think this is a greate idea. someone should really develop this.
basically the user would provide the application with an approved list of applications that can connect using the 3g/edge connection. the rest can only connect using wifi or activesync

GLO said:
Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
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but it doesnt do anything after it tells you this stats.
a simple application similar to "no data" should still be developed. what do you all think?

look into your taskmanager
RSSHub ? QuickGPS ?
good look

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Alternatively, is there a way of finding out which apps are trying to access the net without my knowledge? (e.g. by forcing a prompt every time an application attempts 3G/GPRS access)?
Ian
THE GRIZZ said:
but it doesnt do anything after it tells you this stats.
a simple application similar to "no data" should still be developed. what do you all think?
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Sure, this wont stop the apps, but as the OP had asked, this will let him know what apps are accessing the NEt

GLO said:
Hi,
If you grab a trial of SPB Wireless Monitor,that will show what apps and how much data has been used per application.
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SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.

Mamamam said:
look into your taskmanager
RSSHub ? QuickGPS ?
good look
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I tried installing and runnign TaskMgr but it hangs during startup on my TouchPro2. What's the best alternative Task manager app?

itm said:
SPB Wireless Monitor tells me only that system.exe or services.exe are doing the accesses.
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I suspect that they are your Network Operator settings checking for updates or
something like that.

GLO said:
I suspect that they are your Network Operator settings checking for updates or
something like that.
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They make 87 connections in 18 hours - does that sound likely? It works out very expensive for those tariffs which charge a per-connection fee.
Any idea how I could disable this (or confirm that this is indeed the explanation)?

Hutchison3G sets up virtually all their supplied phones with network configurations to connect very frequently like what you describe.
See if you can simply disable your data connection. As with H3G in Australia, you dont get charged when it is simply accessing its own intranet, and when its roaming it only displays a 'lite' homepage.
Perhaps consider a non-network issued rom, or determine whether that data is 'free intranet' or not.

GLO said:
See if you can simply disable your data connection. As with H3G in Australia, you dont get charged when it is simply accessing its own intranet, and when its roaming it only displays a 'lite' homepage.
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I already use NoData to manually enable/disable the data connection when it's required/not required. I was just hoping for a more elegant solution to stop unauthorised apps incurring data charges, while not sacrificing the convenience of automatic access for apps that I use alot (like Opera and Outlook)

hope someone develops this

You can try PPC version of ProxyCap to restrict or proxify access per application - http://www.proxycap.com/
It doesn't pop up when an aplication attempts to communicate with the Internet, so manual configuration is required. You'll need to set up proxy bypass for the applications you want to be allowed to connect and use localhost as a proxy by default, so that other applications can't communicate with external hosts. You can also filter traffic based on destination IPs and ports. E.g. an easier solution may be to allow http and https traffic only for all applications and drop everything else if you only need to use a web browser.
ProxyCap may not prevent your GPRS/EDGE/HSDPA connection from being established every time, but at least there will be application or protocol filtering in place and thus less unexpected traffic. ProxyCap does not seem to be able to filter ICMP traffic. It appears to be allowing DNS traffic through regardless of the filtering configuration too, as it can't be proxified and is required for proper name resolution.
Another alternative is PPC firewalls like
http://www.airscanner.com/products/firewall/
and
http://www.anthasoft.com/anthafirewall-firewall-for-mobile-device.php
I haven't used any of these products though and can't recommend them.
Both seem to be more user friendly than proxycap though.