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Hi,
I've started to look into DVD conversion for WM5 and with the number of people here with the same device I am curious to know what results others have found to be the optimum settings for video compression and playback.
I guess the questions I would like answered are;
- what video player software do you use on your Universal?
- what software have you used to convert DVD to WM5
- what settings have you found to provide the best results? (frame rate, bit rate, cropping, display size, etc)
- did you use any hacks to improve the playback (registry hacks or eliminated software etc).
Regards
Michael
i'm using WM Encoder... it works perfectly... maybe u can try it out...
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...02-e496-465a-bba9-b2f1182cdf24&DisplayLang=en
Hi,
So what settings have you found work best with this media encoder?
Michael
Select Pocket PC widescreen (CBR) for video and CD Quality (CBR) for audio, check 259kbps and you're good to go...
works for me... hope it will for you...
Cheers...
Hi,
But is that the best resolution the Universal can do?
Michael
you can try encode with better resolution, but it will appear the same, some will be worst unless u have a big screen... cos big resolution medias will automatically resize to fit in your media player and it'll take up more space...
Will this play in full screen in WM10?
Full screen mode... Select Pocket PC widescreen (CBR) for video and CD Quality (CBR) for audio, check 259kbps
nonentity said:
i'm using WM Encoder...
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i havent had any luck with this... i think its because i dont have a DVD decoder for my Windows Media Player (on my PC)
my DVD drive came with a copy of InterVideo WinDVD, which plays DVDs fine - but Windows Media Player doesnt recognise DVDs (the menu Play -> DVD... is greyed out)
does anyone know of:
- free (or cheap?) decoders for WMP that would get WM Encoder to work? or
- an alternative encoder that comes with its own decoder?
thanks!
dalelane, I don't use WM encoder myself, (I'm a VirtualDub man) but if you want a very comprehensive set of codecs do a quick Google search for the "K-Lite Codec Pack" or the "Ace Mega Codec Pack". Both are free, and if you still can't use WM Encoder after you've installed those codecs, then it's obviously not meant to be...
Video Playback
Can anyone advise a way of increasing the size of video playback in so called full screen mode to actually fill the screen?
You've got two options:
1) Encode it in a resolution that fills the screen, i.e. not 320x240 but 640x480. The problem with this is that it will probably not play smoothly.
2) Use a decent media player that can resize a 320x240 video to fill the screen like TCMPMP. (Free)
You'll find a link to download TCMPMP elsewhere on the forum. I've tried it and it works a treat.
All this info is available elsewhere of the forum if you do a bit of searching.
Movies I've ripped for my Dell Axim X50v with fairusewizard light and the default 2-pass XVID settings file size 700MB play fine on My JasJar using TCPMP. The only setting I change in Fairuse is the resolution. I make it as close to 640x480 as possible from the list of resolution it gives you.
Hi, i got myself a quick 2gig memory card today and want to put some of my movies on it, i have 2 questions
What is a decent converter that i can use?
What settings would run on Universal smooth?
Thanks all
Normally works without converted it, in ac format 1,5Gb of movie it will be played smoothly, if not try google to find some converter bc right now i can´t remember any.
hope this help
regards
thanks a million, some tweaking to the player and im fixed
thanks again mate
what you said works, but i have no quality and it keeps sticking my video, any ideas why?
I went through the various options for this a few months ago. In TCPMP, set the following for best performance:
In Video:
Smooth video (only 50%)
Quality: Normal
Video driver: Intel XScale
In Settings - DirectDraw
Overlay with colorkey
In Settings - Intel XScale
Everything selected
Leave all other video settings off or at the default settings.
Unfortunately, the universal can't manage any video (XviD, MP4 or WMV) I've tried at the native resolution of 640x480 without some serious frame skipping. But it seems to cope well with videos I've encoded for my Archos, which are XviD or DivX, 320x240, and are encoded at 1000 kbps or less. You can use B-Frames (they don't take much processing power and give a significant performance increase), but don't use GMC or Q-Pel.
As for converters/encoders, take your pick. There are loads. Dr DivX is pretty simple to use, but IIRC isn't available any more. Your best bet is to follow one of the guides at doom9.org.
thanks, its ashame my mp cant read it because i prefer the interface on windows media player then core media player aswel as my playlists, thanks again, hope some update for the codecs or something comes out soon
Why not try Windows Media Encoder if you are just converting from one format to another (don't know if you can rip DVD, never tried). The built in profiles are good enough for the Uni's screen. To rip from DVD I use IMTOO dvd ripper. Just create a profile as listed above and away you go.....Good luck,Pug
TCPMP+PocketDivxEncoder (http://divx.ppccool.com) ... for the best results!
yarser said:
TCPMP+PocketDivxEncoder (http://divx.ppccool.com) ... for the best results!
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Is it better than DrDivx? I have had some good success with DrDivx. The problem is that it wastes some space for the widescreen formats and I would prefer to use every single pixel available. Is there a setting in DrDivx that reformats the movie to fit exactly in the Tornado screen?
I use
Fox Video Converter. Virtually any format with any setting and you can adjust any of the settings to suit yourself. Generally a 700Mb Divx converts into a roughtly 250-300Mb WMV or ASF or whatever you want. Then TCPMP.
Hi!
I want to know if there is a "best" way to enjoy the highest quality and smooth playback from veoh, youtube and also southpark.com .
Also, what settings do you recommend when converting movies, or mainly sitcoms dvds to the player. I want the best I can get without going into choppy mode...gotta love Three's Company on the go
Also recommendations on what program to use paid or free is welcome.
Thanks
I don't know about online website because most of them are usually choppy, but I do know about encoding videos for your Touch Pro2. If you want a free encoder (which I use) for your windows mobile phone it would be Windows Media Encoder (google it) its from Microsoft, it has built in settings for your windows mobile playback and you just have set resolution and how high your quality you would like. Also you could use At0mAng Enhanced D3D Driver to have a smoother movie on Windows Media Player on your Touch Pro 2. Thats pretty much it for putting movies on your Touch Pro 2.
Lots of trans-coders out there, but not nearly so many that can go directly from DVD to a file. Most you would have to rip from DVD first. A great exception is Handbrake (free). If you are going to use either Media Player or HTC album (both of which are accelerated under WM6.5), then you can go straight from DVD to high quality (720xwhatever, 1500kbps video MP4) and it plays flawlessly.
I will try that tonight.
I do have the D3D driver already.
BTW, I tried installing HTC album on my Tilt 2 but all I get is a was unsuccessful error.
Also with the Handbrake quote, you will need to have a unlocked DVD in order to rip your movie. Other that its mostly explained.
Kenchi* said:
Also with the Handbrake quote, you will need to have a unlocked DVD in order to rip your movie. Other that its mostly explained.
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I was not able to test much so I decided to give my favorite converter a shot (total video converter).
Used the pocket pc or similar profile and made the video (avi file) from 700MB to 400 by reducing quality but it was very choppy.
Then decided to give the original AVI a shot and it runs super smooth with core player (WMP cannot read it). The quality is awesome but way too big.
I tried the Windows Media Encoder 9 but I did not see a specific version that gives me the 400x800 resolution my device has.
Thanks
shaolin95 said:
I was not able to test much so I decided to give my favorite converter a shot (total video converter).
Used the pocket pc or similar profile and made the video (avi file) from 700MB to 400 by reducing quality but it was very choppy.
Then decided to give the original AVI a shot and it runs super smooth with core player (WMP cannot read it). The quality is awesome but way too big.
I tried the Windows Media Encoder 9 but I did not see a specific version that gives me the 400x800 resolution my device has.
Thanks
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Shaolin, you are looking in the incorrect place, at first it doesn't let you choose your screen resolution because you must select the type of file that fits into a type of device that is going to play that file that you are trying to play in WMP on your phone.
Here are the steps to get the video size you want, which I hope you will try, you must go to the New Session Wizard, then click on Convert a File (If you are trying to convert a video file into WMV).
Then find your source file which is your Video you want to watch on your TP2, after that choose your output (Where you want to put that file after it encoded into WMV)
After click Pocket PC (Note that you won't change resolution here)
After all that, choose specifically Pocket PC widescreen video (CBR), then choose the quality of your Bitrate, Audio, and if you want you can add all the Description to your video file if you'd like. (Note that you won't change resolution here either)
Click next, and DON'T check mark Begin converting when I click finish.
Then click finish, after that click Properties on your Windows Media Encoder 9 (it should be on top with a Check mark inside a paper symbol) and click the Video Size Tab. There at the bottom of the wizard you should find Width and Height, set the Resolution to 800 x 480 if you want to view your video horizantel or 480 x 800 which is vertical ( which I don't prefer ) After all that, your video should be small but at a good quality and allowing you to have free space on your Micro SD card, and it should be playing on WMP on your phone.
Hope this helps, good luck,
Kenichi
Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
i view my movies using a divx player with no problems at all.
Mike
Try TCPMP player , install it then open the program and hit file than open and select the movie! let me know if this works.
xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.
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Its just called video encoding GUI (saying htc implies they made it, when they didn't). But yes, I can highly recommend using it.
Also using tcpmp doesn't allow for full hardware acceleration.
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Good to know what player do you recommend?
core player and tcmp player work all the time.. Dix player"sometimes work" but has small keys and audio issues but at least you can adjust sound and timeframe in fullscreen.
I will try the other encoding program. I downloaded pocket divx player and I couldn't figure out how to open up a new file and I tried to follow the directions in the program. Is it possible that I am having a hard time with my mp4 files because I transferred them not via Activesync but by the other option that pops up when you first connect your phone to a computer? Will post in a bit when I try the new encoder.
Edit: Tried the new encoder, but all sorts of error messages when I showed them the contents of my Avatar DVD. I have 33 files on the actual DVD, which ones am I trying to encode?
Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).
Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?
did you try the tcpmp player?
tgerbracht said:
Will try meGUI, guess people are thinking it has to do with the encoding huh? Even if it works ok on my computer but not HD2?
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Yes. Just because it plays on the computer doesn't mean it'll play on the phone. Your computer's hardware is substantially "faster" than the HD2's. Optimizing the video through encoding is usually the answer.
Toss3 said:
Don't use the video encoding GUI as it is awfully slow and doesn't even give you a great image quality due to the settings being made suitable for a Touch HD.
Just head over to doom9 and download MeGui. A bit harder to use, but at least you'll be able to encode them in under an hour with great IQ.
Just did an encode of my Avatar Blu-Ray(45Gb) that took a little under an hour and ended up with a 3Gb file with a bitrate of 2453Kbps and max at 10Mbps. Split it into two files of 1500Mb and the HD2 played them like a champ without a stutter in sight.
I also recommend you download eac3to(for audio ripping) and yamb(mp4 splitting).
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Oof, this program does look confusing. I'm going to go through the help files and try to get a grasp of it all, but if you have some preset settings or a streamlined bit of advice, I'm all for it. So far I'm trying one-click method and I've been able to show it where the .vob files are and create a directory to place the file and working directory. There is a hick-up with something about the chapter titles and it looks like it needs a file but it shows nothing when I explore my DVD drive. The Megui wiki isn't very clear here...though the program looks promising!
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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Will try this-along with tcmp and will report back.
xeebot said:
Try the HTC Video Encoder. I've encoded 1080p .mkv files with no playback issues on my HD2. It's free, so can't hurt to give it a shot.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=467112
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wow.... cool app! Thanks for the link!!!
juwan de leon said:
try using dvdfab, select iphone/ipod encoding and after transfer your encoded avatar to your sd card.. i did it like that.
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THANKS! The ---only--- DVD encoder that just worked!
Edit:
Tried Handbrake (couldn't reliably read DVD to burn), Winx DVD Ripper (couldnt play on HD2), couldnt figure out meGUI and the other encoder linked here, and I didn't have to use any other player other than the nice HTC one. Thanks again.
tgerbracht said:
Hi Folks-
I know there are several threads on video encoding, but I think I am asking something new. I am using the retail version of Winx DVD Ripper which does a nice job overcoming encryption from my store bought DVDs so I can rip to my computer and then transfer to my HD2. Problem is I have workable mp4 files on my computer that I can watch after the process, but I am having mixed success watching them on the HD2.
Just recently, I ripped a nice mp4 version of Avatar that played fine on my computer, but when I transferred it to the phone, it would show the circle for the video player for half a second and then go back to my file explorer. This also happened with Black Hawk Down. I've had success with other movies such as Iron Man, etc. Am I running into some form of copy protection? If so, I'm annoyed as these are 100% retail DVDs I have purchased.
Specific settings for Winx include 800x480 resolution, sound to at least 160, using high resolution mode, even safe mode the second time I ripped Avatar to see if that would help.
Any ideas would be most appreciated, thanks!
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A lot of standalone players worldwide need a firmware update to make it work because Avatar BD uses a new encryption scheme called BD+ 5. I recommend u a blu ray ripper named PavTube. I think the Pavtube Blu-Ray Ripper Software is currently the best ripping software and surprisingly it can rip both DVDs & Blu-Ray Discs without the need of having a different Undo-Protection program. I have tried many brands of ripping software with poor results. PavTube Blue-Ray Ripper is a real "Swiss Knife". Download a demo version and you will find it is definitly worth buying.Experience Blu Ray Avatar in the center of your Home Theater System
Well I searched high and low for programs to do this all in one step but I've only been able to find a way which uses two programs.(free)
First off I use Free DVD Ripper 2.25 which converts the dvd files into a sing .avi file (from my experience which is very little it takes about 2 hours to convert one of these)
http://www.brothersoft.com/free-dvd-ripper-57233.html
I have tested this and it work with windows 7. And it has also the feature to convert to .mp4 but when i choose that setting it still converts to .avi
Settings I used:
Input Settings:
Select Force 24hz under output frame rate (only thing I changed)
Output Settings:
MPEG4
Resolution 800 X 480
Zoom: Full
Resize: Bilinear MMX
Max Frame: 195855
Once I had that file I used Xmedia Recode to convert the .AVI to .MP4 which takes another hour or two. But after all this work I have a complete movie ready to go on my HD2 and its only around the 1GB area.
Xmedia Settings:
Select HTC HD2 under profile and make sure you know where the output file is being put.
I have not found out a way to utilize the whole screen like the transformer movies does.
If anybody knows a better way to do this which is faster please let me know even if it cost a little money for the program. I'd like to give it a shot and see how it turns out.
Thanks
rlacsamana1989 said:
Well I searched high and low for programs to do this all in one step but I've only been able to find a way which uses two programs.(free)
First off I use Free DVD Ripper 2.25 which converts the dvd files into a sing .avi file (from my experience which is very little it takes about 2 hours to convert one of these)
http://www.brothersoft.com/free-dvd-ripper-57233.html
I have tested this and it work with windows 7. And it has also the feature to convert to .mp4 but when i choose that setting it still converts to .avi
Settings I used:
Input Settings:
Select Force 24hz under output frame rate (only thing I changed)
Output Settings:
MPEG4
Resolution 800 X 480
Zoom: Full
Resize: Bilinear MMX
Max Frame: 195855
Once I had that file I used Xmedia Recode to convert the .AVI to .MP4 which takes another hour or two. But after all this work I have a complete movie ready to go on my HD2 and its only around the 1GB area.
Xmedia Settings:
Select HTC HD2 under profile and make sure you know where the output file is being put.
I have not found out a way to utilize the whole screen like the transformer movies does.
If anybody knows a better way to do this which is faster please let me know even if it cost a little money for the program. I'd like to give it a shot and see how it turns out.
Thanks
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Thanks for posting your experience! Have you checked out the encoding thread that's stickied up at the top of this section? It has several suggestions for different ways to accomplish that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666971
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Thanks for posting your experience! Have you checked out the encoding thread that's stickied up at the top of this section? It has several suggestions for different ways to accomplish that:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=666971
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Thats where I got most of my information on this, although they did not really explain how to convert the DVD over just how to convert a single file over to .MP4 and did not find any information on how to get rid of the black bars
rlacsamana1989 said:
Thats where I got most of my information on this, although they did not really explain how to convert the DVD over just how to convert a single file over to .MP4 and did not find any information on how to get rid of the black bars
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Gotcha, just wanted to make sure you'd seen it.
As far as the initial steps of getting a DVD ripped to a video file to work with, that's pretty much outside the bounds of what's allowed to be discussed here (due to the legal elements involved)...there's a dozen and one ways to do that available, a quick google search will turn up several apps/utilities for you to try
CloneDVD Mobile from Slysoft can rip straight from a DVD into an MP4, no intermediate AVI step necessary:
http://www.slysoft.com/en/clonedvd-mobile.html
Note that the software will not do copy protected DVDs on its own, but AnyDVD from the same company will remove protection on the fly and let you do commercial DVDs.
I am not an employee of Slysoft, just a very satisfied customer
tried dvdfab yet?
i still prefer using dvdfab tho... faster for me.
the setting that i use:
generic.mp4.h264.acc
800x480
same as source for the bit rate
128kbps for the audio
stereo
100 to 125% for the volume.
2pass process.
the results: AWESOME! check my sig to see them.
thanks for the dvd rippers. will check them out once I get home.
I also recommend DVDFab. Bit pricey on the license fee, but worth it!
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i still prefer using dvdfab tho... faster for me.
the setting that i use:
generic.mp4.h264.acc
800x480
same as source for the bit rate
128kbps for the audio
stereo
100 to 125% for the volume.
2pass process.
the results: AWESOME! check my sig to see them.
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I'm kind of noob when it comes to things like this. I just got DVDfab 7 on trial. While ripping from dvd i dont see a "same as source" box, so what's the best FPS and biterate to choose? I want it to run smooth and look great, size doesn't really matter.