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I'm nearly at the end of my contract for my T-mobile vario II. It looks like my next phone will either be the X1 or the touch HD. I read a lot of ebooks and web pages so the bigger screen is going to be great.
I like the fact that the X1 has a slide out keyboard and dpad. These should help when writing emails or playing games. However the simpler package of the Touch HD does look very nice.
One thing that sucked about the vario II was the sluggish interface - from the few videos I have watched the HD seems a bit slicker than the X1 - am I right?
If possible I would like to install android on my next device - is this more likely to be possible on the HD?
So what are your views - which is better?
Mercedes or BMW.
Two similar but quite different animals.
Need the keyboard... X1
Need no keyboard .. T' HD
It's simply a choice only. Some point or other.. a HardSPL and cooking of roms will be well underway.. along with a vast choice of rom shape and size, along with inbuilts. The only thing that will not change is the Hardware shape. (guts are the same)
The Touch HD is not even out properly, and the HD manilla is already available and installable on the X1. the Sony panels will no doubt hit the Touch HD.
I have bought 2 X1's..along with an Omnia... Will get a HD also.. but this is because i'm a picky sod.. and have money to pee away.
Please don't tell my wife!.
Well the Touch HD is technically using HTC's "2nd" version of TouchFlo3D, after Diamond/TPro, so understandably they've put some effort into getting it to run more smoothly. SE's panels will debut on the X1 so it's probably buggy just like TouchFlo3D was when the Diamond first came out.
That said, XDA got even the stock Diamond interface running really well, so there's no reason they can't do it with the X1's panels. It's not a question of if but when.
I think if you're going to reading most of the time, the HD will be the better choice (bigger screen, and you dont "need" a hardware keyboard to read). But I must say if you do a fair amount of messaging, a real keyboard is second to none -- there's just no going back after you've used one (imo).
As for Android, only time will tell. My guess is yes for both, but it might not be fully functional for some time. There are just too many unknowns right now for there to be an easy answer.
harvsingh said:
Mercedes or BMW.
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For me the answer to that one was BMW!
harvsingh said:
I have bought 2 X1's..along with an Omnia... Will get a HD also.. but this is because i'm a picky sod.. and have money to pee away.
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If you are so flush with cash feel free to mail me one of the X1's!
fhseih - I do read a lot and the physical size of the screen on the touch hd would be very nice for that. However the actual resolution of the X1 is the same so it should be almost as good in that respect. As you say, once you get used to the keyboard you never go back. I have got used to having a keyboard on my vario II. I love the way that you can type without wasting screen space on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe what I really want is a Touch HD Pro - any rumors that we will see one of these soon?
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For me the answer to that one was BMW!
If you are so flush with cash feel free to mail me one of the X1's!
fhseih - I do read a lot and the physical size of the screen on the touch hd would be very nice for that. However the actual resolution of the X1 is the same so it should be almost as good in that respect. As you say, once you get used to the keyboard you never go back. I have got used to having a keyboard on my vario II. I love the way that you can type without wasting screen space on a virtual keyboard.
Maybe what I really want is a Touch HD Pro - any rumors that we will see one of these soon?
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Even though i have capital... and enough to buy a handset i want when i want it on the network i choose to be with.. i am certainly no charity.. so i'm sorry.. if the second x1 goes anywhere its back to supplier... and get a HD instead.
I think getting a Touch HD pro is pointless.. HD is such because its not bulky. Its slim and basically a screen with a send and end key.
Adding a keyboard to it = not a Touch HD Pro but a X1.
Lack of G-sensor on X1 is the thing i think when it comes to using different roms and software. Hardware apart from this and keyb is the same. (except screen size...res is the same)
I think... i will keep one x1 and get a HD...
that way.. i'm covered.
Really wish the DX900 Glofiish had been released... 2 sim cards... one phone with VGA/GPS/WIFI/Bluetooth/3G/HSDPA .. but as yet.. its just due... due .. and due....
who could want more?
Hi all,
did anyone of you the step from HTC Diamond to the new Touch HD?
Apart from the obvious, technical differences: What is your opinion? Is it better? Is the handling the same or do you feel a difference (e.g. performance?).
What is your experience with the new Buttons at the bottom?
Thanks for any input.
Rgds
Kingshill
I'd like to know the answer to this too. I have a diamond and am not sure wether its worth the £500. Is it reallly worth it? Some people think we're mad anyway shelling out hundreds for a telephone especialy when you've got one. Maybe we need councilling?
I wonder as well if I should change. What I really love on the Diamond is the size. And the HD is big in my opinion. Sure it's nice with the big screen etc.
If the HD would have TV-out, ok, but I don't see real big advantage on the HD. Sure performance is better, but I think I will wait for the next HTC Device with probably WM 6.5.
From my point of view, the HD offers to solve all of the problems the diamond had - i.e lack of expandable memory, poor battery and tiny screen.
I managed to sell my diamond on ebay for £320. A mate of mine in trade can get me the HD at the trade price of £460. So thats an HD for £140.
HD doesnt arrive until mid week - will let you all know then.
I have the diamond (actually a t-mobile mda compact iv) as a work phone, and have just bought the HD to replace my personal tytn.
I actually see them as two different phones, for two very different purposes. The HD is a great recreational phone, while still allowing me to be connected to my business services. It's great for browsing and using as a controller for my home automation system. Essentially because of the size of the screen (bear in mind the hardware of the two devices is almost identical).
The HD I would be nervous about taking for a night out, or with me to play sport, or when travelling - it's too awkward to handle and keep safe in demanding circumstances, and increases the risk of breakage. Whereas the diamond is an ideal size and easily protectable in harsher environments.
It is a shame that neither phone has a point to attach a lanyard. This is particularly unfortunate for the HD because sometimes handling it, particularly when removing the case, really does not feel safe.
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I wonder as well if I should change. What I really love on the Diamond is the size. And the HD is big in my opinion. Sure it's nice with the big screen etc.
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I have to agree. After the Diamond, the Touch HD feels H-U-G-E. I've had the HD for a week and I'm still surprised by the size very time I pick it up. My ideal device is same form factor as Diamond, but with larger full-front screen. Don't need the D-pad. Apart from the marvellous THD screen, I appreciate the longer battery life.
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I have to agree. After the Diamond, the Touch HD feels H-U-G-E. I've had the HD for a week and I'm still surprised by the size very time I pick it up. My ideal device is same form factor as Diamond, but with larger full-front screen. Don't need the D-pad. Apart from the marvellous THD screen, I appreciate the longer battery life.
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Ha ha, for me the feeling is the oppsite. After Athena's 5 inch screen, Touch HD feels tiny. I would be happier if it is 4.5 inch. It makes all the difference in internet surfing, spreadsheet, word processing, picture viewing, and video watching.
I went from Diamond to HD (still have the Diamond as a backup)
Observations/reasons;
LOVE the look/feel of the HD (I liked my iPhone in this regard as well - just hated far too many aspects of it...) and ultimately I want to get Android onto it....hopefully!!
Diamond always niggled me in that it had a tiny screen so was fiddly for touch/finger control (I avoid stylus operation as much as possible - it's fiddly and annoying). Also that there was no mSD card option/expandabilty. O/S was sluggish and slow compared to the HD (especially TouchFlo - which is noticeably faster on the HD)
Aesthetically - IMO the HD gets it hands down over the diamond (and any other phone out there, including the iPhone!)
The Diamond is handy if you like small phones and aren't very demanding on performance, but otherwise the HD is a better performing tool all round.
Battery life on the HD seems quite comparable with the Diamond - in actual fact possibly slightly better (the Diamond battery life was pretty grim)
Just my thoughts/opinions
The HD is better then the Diamond
Bigger Screen
Responsive Screen
Expandable memory
More Ram
Better Battery Life
All in all the TF3D is alot more quicker and responsive then the Diamond, and currently im using a stock rom, so imagine when there are cooked roms for this.
I would recommend you get this phone
I havent touched my Diamond since i got it
and now im selling my Diamond
i have the both, and i think HD is better than diamond on all point except dimension but it is not a real probleme because you can put hd in your pocket too.
I also have both and I must admit it´s a BIG change... The screen´s great, the battery life much improved and the touch screen a pleasure to use... but it feels much bigger in the hand than the Diamond. I have to agree with AFW the ideal would be Diamond size but without the D Pad but out of the two I´ll be sticking with the HD
Can´t wait to start cooking.... this baby will fly!
Thanks chaps - I will spent the money and get one asap.....
Wow!!!!!
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-touch-pro2-is-awesome-in-ways-the-touch-pro-never-could-be/
Touch Pro 2 - Possible upgrade to HD? 5mm thicker 30g heavier, slide outkeyboard+3.6" VGA+more
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchpro2/overview.html
Diamond 2:
3.2" VGA etc
http://www.htc.com/www/product/touchdiamond2/overview.html
Sadly. . . no 3.5 mm jack. Its meant for business people.
Also this:
http://www.engadget.com/2009/02/16/htc-ceo-windows-mobile-6-5-to-be-announced-this-afternoon/
HOLY CRAP. . .
This isn't the new HD though, so maybe the HD is still going to be strong for a year(meaning no major updates to it, just internal hardware, like a US 3G antenna).
I dont think we will see an upgrade for the HD till later this year (if at all) but this in most peoples eyes will easily do for a HD with built in keyboard.
I dont think we will see an upgrade for the HD till later this year (if at all) but this in most peoples eyes will easily do for a HD with built in keyboard.
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Like I said .
This isn't the new HD though, so maybe the HD is still going to be strong for a year(meaning no major updates to it, just internal hardware, like a US 3G antenna).
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That new TPro is still sexy though , but they could have done with out the bezel and all the brushed aluminum(not saying that I don't like).
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
excellent birthday present....
I think my girlfriend will be pleased when i'll give her the diamond2 for her birthday (hoping it will be available by then)
And I will be able to fiddle with it as well
Woohoo!!
Grtz,
Degake
degake said:
And I will be able to fiddle with it as well
Woohoo!!
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What? The girlfriend? Sorry! couldn't resist.
ClownShoes said:
What? The girlfriend? Sorry! couldn't resist.
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I was expecting that someone would give this comment
And I truely/deeply hope I can fiddle with the phone and my girlfriend then (but best not both at the same time )
Grtz,
Degake
i just got the hd!!! they need to stop making phones so i stop wasting money!!!!!!!!!!
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*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
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Apparently they will get a free upgrade, just ready fo you guys to cook a rom ;-)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/windows_mobile_launch/
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Apparently they will get a free upgrade, just ready fo you guys to cook a rom ;-)
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2009/02/16/windows_mobile_launch/
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The Touch Pro 2 is just too heavy for me, the HD is bad enough...same old story, to keyboard or not to keyboard. The WhiteStone is supposed to be the replacement for the HD. Who knows when it will come. Personally I don't care to upgrade my HD because with these new devices come new roms, YES!
sunnymiu said:
*sigh* it makes me confused to make a decision between Touch HD and Touch Pro2
Touch Pro2 contains lots of software impovements, espsecially a newer version TF3D,
however, the backplate which coloured in grey really... ugly ('cause I'm a grey-hater)
the Touch HD have a stylish design (in my opinion), but software are just out-dated
and there maybe not have any WM6.5 offical ROM provided, even an update of TF3D
Anyone can help me to make a choice?
My only concern is about the updating of software and any alternative colours of Touch Pro2
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i fully believe that the new TouchFLO will be available to the HD thanks to XDA-DEVELOPERS
and i can't wait, it seems to have some nice additions and tweaks
o and WinMo 6.5 will definitely be available for the HD thanks to XDA-DEVELOPERS (not an official upgrade, but fully awesome)
not impressed
I'm not impressed, i have had three HTC Phones and all have been underpowered due lack of chipset drivers, I will be probably looking towards the omnia HD next, unless HTC decide to shell out the cash for licences for drivers. it winds me up no end that. made I was fooled yet again by HTC into buying one of their half finished handsets.
Its good more XVGA's are coming out as it means more supported apps. Maybe a google version might help us crack the RGB666 issue.
Hardware Keyboard
I sincerely beleive that the HD (aka beast, aka black stone) is currently the ultimate device. Most people who long for a hardware keyboard must have never used the TouchPal. I have done continuous testing and TouchPal allows me and most other people to type considerable faster. I DO RECCOMEND IT for anyone who has not tried it.
I love what I'm seeing with the new ROMs out there and I'm not worried at all that the brilliant minds of this community will bring it to the world best device. Heck, after WM 6.1 was ported to the BlueAngel than everything is possible here!
I love my HD and these new devices can't even hold a candle to it. 3.8 WVGA display, FM Radio, 5MP camera with Autofocus, GPS, front full 2nd VGA camera, 7 hardware buttons, magnetic stylus, expandable memeory via Micro SD (now up to 32GB) all in a form factor the same size as the iPhone! (who can beat that?!)
Only thing the HD's missing is US 3G support, and Video Out, and a capacitve touchscreen.
Damn I love my HD!!!!!
The only way to make the HD better
The on
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i just got the hd!!! they need to stop making phones so i stop wasting money!!!!!!!!!!
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LOL yes many of us agree with you there!
I wonder if there's an exact launch date on this. I'm due for an upgrade soon.
Before getting the HD, I was a happy TyTN II user. Sure I wished for at least VGA and a larger screen but I was content (with the technology back then). But when the super sexy HD came out with WVGA and faster performance I was interested but the lack of keyboard held me back till I found out I could manipulate the screen to horizontal for any "serious typing" since the landscape keyboard was almost the same size in length as the physical keyboard. Now with FingerKeyboard (the black & red) I am completely satisfied. I gained light-weight and thin and able to type.
My next upgrade will be for windows 6.5 and the faster processor and video card!
I think my girlfriend will be pleased
I just pre-ordered the diamond2
expected delivery date: april 10th
I'm gonna be so lucky tonight
Grtz,
Degake
I am planning to sell my HTC Touch HD and hop on HTC Hero. Reasons are, I want to start using Android in my daily life ASAP, and the new HTC Sense is what I really need and wanted. Widgets, 7 window "pages", and the "scene" is also very useful feature.
On the other hand, I also think about keeping my HTC Touch HD, and wait until some Android comes on nVidia Tegra or 1ghz Qualcomm Snapdragon?
Well, discuss!
To be honest, I love the Touch HD (even after switching to the iPhone - and back) but the Hero looks really nice.
It's a bit less "professional" because of Android, but if you don't depend on features like full Exchange support or voice command, I'd say the Hero is clearly the best device on the market now (of course depending on your needs).
There are some phones with better hardware, like the Samsung i8910, but unfortunately, they run Symbian. The Hero has great hardware and great software, and both the hardware and the software are better than what Apple has to offer.
On the other hand, the HTC Leo/SuperStar should arrive within just a few months. Though the Hero is nice, it could be woth waiting (after all, the Touch HD is still a great device).
Same here !
I'm going to do the same. Android and Sense are the future of the HTC devices. I'm gonna miss my HD because of its gigantic display and resolution. If HD had a capacitive display, I would stick with it. I can admit that HD is the first device I loved using and it's mostly because of Dutty's lovely and fast roms. I have ordered my Hero and I will send some pictures of it as soon as I receive the phone.
By the way mates, is it true that the processor on Hero (and HTC Leo/SuperStar) is a dual core processor?
No, the Hero uses the same processor as the Touch HD, and the Leo/SuperStar will have the nVidia Tegra Chip (which is about twice as fast, in theory, and has great 3D and video acceleration - but I never found the Touch HD to be too slow).
It does look nice. I only hope it actually works like the movie I just downloaded from the HTC site. It's available in just about two weeks time in UK. Can anybody tell me how it would sync with PC or even better Mac? Is it Google sync only?
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It does look nice. I only hope it actually works like the movie I just downloaded from the HTC site. It's available in just about two weeks time in UK. Can anybody tell me how it would sync with PC or even better Mac? Is it Google sync only?
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I think I found my answer here.
any idea what the German price will be? wanna buy it tax free and smuggle, lol
Hey guys,
I currently own a Sony Ericsson Xperia, and am possibly looking for a new phone. I love the look of a proper HTC phone, with Manilla ofc, because I love it, and they are good quality phones. I can't decide between a Diamond 2 (Topaz) or a Touch HD (Blackstone) and would like to know what you guys love so much about the Touch HD.
Be it custom ROMs here, features etc. I would love to know what you like best =)
Thanks ^^
I love everything about my HD! Sad init!
Why not hold out for the new HTC Leo though?
madin,
Yes, very much so. Once you've seen a TouchHD, it makes you wonder why you even paid all that money for a screensize that is on Xperia. Lawl.
And yes, programs like FingerKeyboard and RescoKeyboard PRO makes it almost natural even without a physical keyboard. However, just understand that with great screen size, comes great responsibility.
If you're one to treat your phones with callousness, stick to your SEX1. High pressure can render your TouchHD inflicted with a Newton Ring (in my opinion, the large lcd panel makes it weaker than a smaller lcd panel).
Cheers.
the best thing I love about the hd is the large screen and the interface... gotta love xda developers for making roms that take the best of all the htc interfaces and put them into the phone. currently using the TOPIX unleashed 3.0 FINAL rom and I cannot say how perfect this phone is now.
I think you should wait. Soon there will be new phones from HTC (Leo), which looks really great
Yeah i love my hd but it may be worth holding out for leo...
I'd also wait for Leo. Looks like a slicker HD.
Yeah, I was reading some stuff about the Leo this morning. Looks amazing. Think I will have to hold out for that. Still nice to see what you guys had to say about the HD, as I'm assuming the Leo will be a better HD perhaps?
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