iPAQ 6xx thumb wheel - Sable

Did you notice how the thumb wheel on iPAQ 610/612/614 only scrolls on one row ? For example , I open up Start -> Programs and there are 3 rows , once at the end of one it should go to the next , doesn't happen . Is there a fix for that ?

I'm using WM 6.1 20270 1.4 Rev 1.2 Standard Rom and i can scroll throught all the icons.
What Rom do yo have? i cant recall if my stock Rom let me scrool like that.

I had the official 6.0 Proffesional build , then 6.1 /w Manilla , then 6.5 .. Same thing happens . My comparison is with SE P1i for example ,where the scroll wheel goes from left to right then moves to the other row , in HP it goes on the column till the end but doesnt go to the next one .
Eh thats what i deserve for getting a phone WITHOUT d-pad

arcadekidflo said:
Eh thats what i deserve for getting a phone WITHOUT d-pad
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so way didn't you lookup 4 solutions like this?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=435026

I already installed that but don't use it often because i also have to type and enabling/disabling it is time consuming . I try not to use the touchscreen and handle it from the keys . The thumb whel would have been of great help but since it acts so weird ,,, ****

i have just checked it on my device and the wheel works fine
the wheel gos one step at a time on program screen (normal operation )
the only thing is that when working with e-mail the wheel will jump to the next/prv line and moving the finger from key num 5 to left (6) or right (4) will give me movment on the line (normal like d-pad)
do you restore a backup after your rom update? (maybe bad backup/reg value)
try hr and check it on a clean device (no apps -maybe you have prob with one of your apps..)
if it is still not good mayby your hardwhere is deffective and you can try to check with hp

arcadekidflo said:
Did you notice how the thumb wheel on iPAQ 610/612/614 only scrolls on one row ? For example , I open up Start -> Programs and there are 3 rows , once at the end of one it should go to the next , doesn't happen . Is there a fix for that ?
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Works fine here. Guess you'll need more 'finesse' on the wheel
Dirk

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sms from keyboard

Hi , I would like to know if anybody figured out when sending an email or SMS how to go from "To:" to the actual message you will type without touching the screen ?
The Tab key didn't work for me .
Doesn't the down arrow do it? Works for me.
V
Both Tab and the Down arrow work for me. Just tried.
Press Message button to go to Pocket Outlook.
Tap LHS soft key to select New
Type first few letters of contact's name.
When number is suggested, press down arrow to select number.
Press Enter to fill in the number.
Press Tab to move to message area.
Type message
nope it doesn't on my xda exec, if I press the down arrow, the scroll bar will go down but the cursor is still on the "to:"
I dont' have a scrollbar anywhere on the New Message screen. I'm running in VGA landscape mode though. Maybe that's the difference.
Doesn't Tab work?
nope the tab + down key didn't work, it will go down on the scroll bar but the cursor will still be on on the "to:"
You said you were on VGA landscape mode, is it with ozvga ? or did you have asetting on the phone itself ?
jeux_1 said:
You said you were on VGA landscape mode, is it with ozvga ? or did you have asetting on the phone itself ?
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Yeah - it's OzVGA.
Man, it would be really annoying if I had to use the stylus to create SMS. This is the biggest benefit for me: Doing (almost) everything in the system using only the keyboard. I hope you find a solution soon.
yeah, I just have to use my dirty fingers to put the cursor in the right place :?
One quick question, I have some app like wisbar/ netfront 3.3 in VGA already, if I install ozvga will it miss it up or they will still look the same ?
Or maybe there is only one way to find out.... :wink:
If you're using WA2 with OzVGA, you'll have to switch to a QVGA version of your Wisbar theme, otherwise it'll all go very weird. Not too much of a problem though, it just takes up a bit more space in your Themes folder having two versions of the same theme, and you need to switch them manually in WA2 when you switch resolutions.
This is because the system uses 96dpi (QVGA) icons, toolbars, fonts, etc, etc when running OzVGA.
thanks, I'll have a go.
still playing with it, just wait on an update so the phone can have a decent response time, miss my xdaIIs for that but, it is another subject 8)
Still love it BTW!
jeux_1, i have the same exact issue. It was driving my pretty crazy, but it helps to know someone else has this issue. Have you found a fix?
For the last three weeks, I was using the keyboard to write SMS, and my TAB key was moving the cursor from 'To' to the body of the message...
And now, suddenly, it does only a scroll down, like the down arrow, but stay in the 'To' field... :?
Any idea :?: it's really annoying....
Does anybody have an idea about that :?:
I think it is a bug for the O2 EXEC, my friend have an Orange one and work works fine.
I don't think there is a solution and it is a bug on the O2 one. Any of you guys can confirm ?
There is as well a new guy with a new Rom I will ask him if he has the same issue.
Actually, I use a Qtek 9000, different ROM
And it was working for at least three weeks... and now, it does'nt work anymore... smth changed, but I cannot find out what
here goes my theory..... :?
Ok, I found the solution.... my TAB key works again..
The problem came from Tweaks2k2 .NET, version 3.15... as soon as I apply changes with it, the TAB behavior changes... :evil:

converter program (finger friendly) need suggestions

Hi wanted to create my first program..
right now Im trying to make a unit converter that is finger friendly..
so far I've tested it and here is what I have so far..
any suggestions? regarding the buttons positions, the interface, etc?
thanks
Hi Providense,
Looks good so far.
Do you have a development schedule as to what it will convert?
Keep it up.
John
Provedence,
It seems that some people like to have a configuration facility.
So perhaps some suggestions:-
Favorites so that the list can be tailored to favorites for that person to save a more compact list of 'things to convert'
I would be happy to have any theme for now but cooks may prefer to add there own theme.
I have used this type of function with calculator type programs but they can become unweildy so one that is specific would be usefull.
Thanks
John
thanks Johny1fin
as of now these are the things i've done
Temperature:
degree Celsius
degree Fahreheit
degree Rankine
degree Reaumur
kelvin
Acceleration: (still doing it right now)
centigal
centimeter/square second
decigal
decimeter/square second
dekameter/square second
foot/square second
g-unit(G)
gal
galileo
gn
grav
hectometer/square second
inch/square second
kilometer/hour second
kilomter/square second
meter/square second
mile/hour minute
mile/hour second
mile/square second
milligal
millimeter/square second
still a long way to go. But the Acceleration should be done by today.
Then I'll add Area, Date/Time and etc
I like the idea of favorites. I'll see if i can implement that. Im still a beginner at programming. Using VB.net 2003 right now
oh by the way. Here's the main menu, where I will put all the buttons
providence said:
Hi wanted to create my first program..
right now Im trying to make a unit converter that is finger friendly..
so far I've tested it and here is what I have so far..
any suggestions? regarding the buttons positions, the interface, etc?
thanks
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Providence,
It may be a limitation of the APIs but could the vertical scroll buttons be next to each other horizontally rather than vertically as this may produce larger buttons?
John
Look nice.. however, on the finger friendly issue, you may want to avoid the scroll list (on your first screenshot) and have another screen for the choice of (say) different temperature units. Something like, making a screen (of your second shot) for temperature units. If you get what i'm trying to say
thanks for the feedbacks i've changed how the scrolling works. Now im using a custom button for that.
Looking good providence
I am not sure if you like this idea, but I think it will be more useful if you can add:
- Currency converter
- Currency quick view (to view several currencies at once)
There is an example of a very nice and complete project with source code here:
http://www.codeproject.com/netcf/PocketCurrency.asp
Add option to have automatic currency update as well
[ x ] Update when connected to ActiveSync
[ x ] Automatic update every X hours
hi, well the main idea was to create a finger based Unit conversion program. To add Currency Converter would be a challenge for myself.
Since first of all, Currency changes daily, so there must be a way to update it. Secondly, im still learning how to program by self teaching myself on my free time.
By the way, Here's the latest screenshot of the program.
I fixed the buttons so its easier to use.
unfortunately, this will only work on PDAphones and not on smartphones. Since you'll need to use the touch screen as input method.
Here is an idea, as mentioned by one of the post above, instead of stacking your scroll button up and down, it may save you that more space if you were to stack them left and right.
From what it seems, the < and > , are buttons, which you use it to 'affect' your lists. If you were to (example) sandwish your list in between these two buttons, you would save like another 2 button height. Example.
Currently, you have the layout
Code:
. item1 <
. item2
. item3 >
. item4
if you can just do this (which is possible in VC, not sure about VB), instead
Code:
< .item1 >
.item2
So, instead of 4 item height, you are now only left with 2 items height.
ahh i see..
I tried doing it
< item 1 >
item 2
but i find it harder to navigate, since when you go back you have to drag your finger across the other side of the screen. And while doing that, you are blocking the item list with your finger.
I dont need to save space, i think i got everything in there..
by the way, here's the test i took
then again, if i put them on the sides, it makes easier for those who are left handed as well
The spaces you save, may able you to bloat up the keypad below.. from what it seems, now they are on the 'flat' side of it.
If you think the "left-list-right" is not very finger friendly, you can try the "list-left-right"? That is
.item1 < >
.item2
Hi thanks for the suggestions..
right now here is what i have, and will probably be the final change in the button positioning..
i got big fingers and I can use them without stylus.
Should have a pre-alpha version ready soon. As of now I've done temperatures and acceleration.
Will add more soon

problem with assigning the softkeys...

What i want to do: Left key= drop down start menu, Right key= file explorer
However what happens is i get the start menu on the left soft key but i only get the file explorer on the right soft key for maybe one/two presses and after that its sets itself to launch Today. Is this normal, i.e do you have to have one of them set as Today? Please help. Thanks.
happens with my phone too...as soon as i reboot or switch panels my left key becomes left softkey and the right becomes today again...
i made an override with AE Buttons...
it seems u r using TF3d.
I have the same p, but for me AE Buttons dont't show the left or right softkeys? Have anyone solved this? It would be really great!!!
P.S.: Happy new year!!!
dhiru said:
it seems u r using TF3d.
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i do have the panel installed yes...why? does this cause this problem? ty
I have heard of a number of people that use TF3D have issues with the softkeys resetting to default. I personally don't use TF3D and have no issues with my custom softkey mappings.
Glad it's not just me experiencing this issue.
I've got a friend with an X1 with almost exactly the same software installed (TF3D also), he doesn't appear to be having the same issue.

[APP] DredSensor - Allow you to disable 'Home' and 'Back' keys while playing games

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If you have tried to play a game needing left and right key on an HTC Touch Diamond, you noticed that they are 2mm wide and if you click next to it, you get back to home page or to dialing menu etc...
So I've written a prog allowing you to lock these 4 keys actions and replace it by classical key event (VK_LEFT, VK_RIGHT, ...).
In that way you can play tetris, and use "Pick-Up" and "Hang-Up" keys for going left and right.
Link ->: DredSensor
To use it, you need:
1) An HTC Touch Diamond (it's the only one i have so i can't test it on other models)
2) Install the .cab
3) Reboot your HTC
4) Run a game (or app or ...)
5) Get your stylus out and back-in, in less than 1 second
6) Click "Yes"
----- A config window opens:
7) Check that Type = "HardKeySimul"
8) Click "Ok"
Now you can use (and eventually assign) your 'Home', 'Back', 'Pick-Up' and 'Hang-Up' keys in that game/app.
Actually, the 'Pick-Up' and 'Hang-Up' keys are always defined as Left and Right events.
Have fun.
Ps:
For people interested, the other "Type" in the config window are:
- "Launcher": allow you to quicklaunch 4 app (that you define in the config wnd) when you double tap (not click, just tap) on one of those 4 keyz
- "Scroll": allow you to scroll the current window by tapping those 4 keyz panel
- "KeySimul": allow you to send left/right/up/down events by tapping those 4 keyz panel
Sounds Great, will give a try....
If you can make this buttons to be assinged to other apps the whole time you'll be a hero
palmbluetooth said:
Sounds Great, will give a try....
If you can make this buttons to be assinged to other apps the whole time you'll be a hero
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In fact if you launch /Program Files/DredSensor/DredSensorCfg.exe, you can edit the "Default" config that applies every time no other config matches...
So if you set the Default config in "Launcher" mode, you can quicklaunch app from everywhere...
Actually, the Launcher mode works with "double tap" rather than click. But i can update it quite easyly to make it work on click if you want.
Dredger, can't wait to try this. This is my biggest gripe when playing games, and I didn't even think to post on here to see if someone could come up with something. I'll test today and let you know how it works!
Very Nice App, really works well.
The only thing is that I don't know how to add 'start', 'ok', answer and hang up to the buttons, do you have any suggestions?
Thanks, I'm loving it.
not able to download. all it gives me is a lot of squares and nothing else.
clever idea, finally i can play racing game on my diamond, thanks!
A very nice and welcome idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with my Raphael. Tried it with Kevtris: succesfully installed, soft-reset, started the game, and configured DredSensor for the game, but when I push e.g. the phone up key, it still brings up the phone application. I didn't change any of the settings in the DredSensor config screen (I did check that "HardKeySimul" was selected).
Hope you can make it work for Raphael too, it is so annoying trying to play games with the d-pad, when you accidentally press the home/phone/etc. keys all the time.
Work perfect on Diamond but... it doesn't work on Touch HD... (error.. Unable to load HTC API DLL)
aBE-One said:
A very nice and welcome idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with my Raphael. Tried it with Kevtris: succesfully installed, soft-reset, started the game, and configured DredSensor for the game, but when I push e.g. the phone up key, it still brings up the phone application. I didn't change any of the settings in the DredSensor config screen (I did check that "HardKeySimul" was selected).
Hope you can make it work for Raphael too, it is so annoying trying to play games with the d-pad, when you accidentally press the home/phone/etc. keys all the time.
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pinele said:
Work perfect on Diamond but... it doesn't work on Touch HD... (error.. Unable to load HTC API DLL)
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Sorry, i only have an HTC Diamond so unless you offer me a Raphael or HD, it's quite hard for me to check anything.
For the touch HD, maybe you should download HTCAPI.DLL somewhere, put it in /Windows and try again.
For the Raphael, on the related article on gadgetmix.com (see 1st post for the link), it seems it works on HTC Touch Pro so it should work on yours.
palmbluetooth said:
Very Nice App, really works well.
The only thing is that I don't know how to add 'start', 'ok', answer and hang up to the buttons, do you have any suggestions?
Thanks, I'm loving it.
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Sorry, i think i don't understand exactly what you would like to do...
Start, Ok etc are default functions on that buttons so you have nothing to do to get them doing that...
Thank You
Hey! This looks like a really good program idea. Its not all that simple to figure out. I'm also not too sure there is an alternative way to customize the program.
Once I had it figured out, it works really well. Kudos for the update. My Diamond is getting much more reading use now. I just found that the d-pad was pretty much useless until now.
Also kudos on the stylus idea. Pretty nifty way to activate the menu.
Two thumbs up. I'm looking forward to any updates in the future.
Dredger97 said:
For the Raphael, on the related article on gadgetmix.com (see 1st post for the link), it seems it works on HTC Touch Pro so it should work on yours.
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Well, maybe they're using another ROM or something. Are you sure they tested it with a Raphael? Maybe they just tested it with a Diamond and presumed it would work on a Raphael (I'm not familiar with the site, so I don't know what devices they're using).
Anyhow, after some more testing, it is actually partly working. That is, sometimes the phone/hang up buttons work as left/right, sometimes they don't. With the phone button it's about 50 % working, 50 % not (in Kevtris). For some reason the hang up button is working more frequently, something like 80 % working, 20 % not.
Also tried it with another game - Marble Worlds 2 demo - again only a part of the key presses are registered correctly.
I understand it's hard for you to test anything when you don't have a Raphael, but if I can do anything to help (apart from donating my Raphael to you ), just ask.
aBE-One said:
Well, maybe they're using another ROM or something. Are you sure they tested it with a Raphael? Maybe they just tested it with a Diamond and presumed it would work on a Raphael (I'm not familiar with the site, so I don't know what devices they're using).
Anyhow, after some more testing, it is actually partly working. That is, sometimes the phone/hang up buttons work as left/right, sometimes they don't. With the phone button it's about 50 % working, 50 % not (in Kevtris). For some reason the hang up button is working more frequently, something like 80 % working, 20 % not.
Also tried it with another game - Marble Worlds 2 demo - again only a part of the key presses are registered correctly.
I understand it's hard for you to test anything when you don't have a Raphael, but if I can do anything to help (apart from donating my Raphael to you ), just ask.
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You probably run another program that uses the same sensor API and that conflict with DredSensor.
Don't you have G-Scroll or something similar installed?
Is it possible to assign the home and back hardware button to make left and right soft keys?
aBE-One said:
A very nice and welcome idea. Unfortunately, it doesn't work with my Raphael. Tried it with Kevtris: succesfully installed, soft-reset, started the game, and configured DredSensor for the game, but when I push e.g. the phone up key, it still brings up the phone application. I didn't change any of the settings in the DredSensor config screen (I did check that "HardKeySimul" was selected).
Hope you can make it work for Raphael too, it is so annoying trying to play games with the d-pad, when you accidentally press the home/phone/etc. keys all the time.
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On my Raphael program works perfectly. My ROM is PROven ROM 1.09 PLK.
Claus72 said:
Is it possible to assign the home and back hardware button to make left and right soft keys?
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Not in that first version but as it seems people find it usefull, i'll probably update it to let you choose which key or app-launch you affect to each button.
Dredger97 said:
Not in that first version but as it seems people find it usefull, i'll probably update it to let you choose which key or app-launch you affect to each button.
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When you do that, can you consider left and right softkeys? That'd be a significant advantage, as I find the lack of the two keys annoying in some apps (esp java ones).
On a side note, does the software poll for input? While I doubt it would affect the battery that much, I'll probably limit my usage to be on the safe side.
Great app!
g2tl said:
When you do that, can you consider left and right softkeys? That'd be a significant advantage, as I find the lack of the two keys annoying in some apps (esp java ones).
On a side note, does the software poll for input? While I doubt it would affect the battery that much, I'll probably limit my usage to be on the safe side.
Great app!
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So if I understand, you'd like the possibility to simul left or right softkey by clicking on 'Home' and 'Back' for example?
On the side note, it doesn't poll for input, but it polls every second to check which app is on the foreground. The input job is event based.
Dredger97 said:
So if I understand, you'd like the possibility to simul left or right softkey by clicking on 'Home' and 'Back' for example?
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correct
On the side note, it doesn't poll for input, but it polls every second to check which app is on the foreground. The input job is event based.
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Which I'm assuming is not happening when the screen is off (through power button)?

urgently needs help in "input options"

hi all bros and sis . been away too long from wm devices and really lost touch.
recently bought a X2 and i did an update via the sony ericsson update software.
after which , the phone interface seems slightly different from what it seems to be from i first got it.
not much an issue except , i frequently use inputs like transcriber and hand regconition .but now even that option is gone.
usually right beside the onscreen keyboard tab , there is a small arrow whereby it will pop up the option to change input and settings , but now that arrow is gone . i tried going thru the entire settings but cant find any way to change it .
and i realized that i cant really go back to the default wm6.5 interface but all i keep getting is spb shell's and stuff.
anyone can give me any suggestion on how to get to the input options?
thanks in advance
my software version : windows mobile 6.5 pro
CE OS 5.2.23103(build 23103.5.3.3)
software version is R3AA035
language region is GENERIC_SG
trinity54 said:
hi all bros and sis . been away too long from wm devices and really lost touch.
recently bought a X2 and i did an update via the sony ericsson update software.
after which , the phone interface seems slightly different from what it seems to be from i first got it.
not much an issue except , i frequently use inputs like transcriber and hand regconition .but now even that option is gone.
usually right beside the onscreen keyboard tab , there is a small arrow whereby it will pop up the option to change input and settings , but now that arrow is gone . i tried going thru the entire settings but cant find any way to change it .
and i realized that i cant really go back to the default wm6.5 interface but all i keep getting is spb shell's and stuff.
anyone can give me any suggestion on how to get to the input options?
thanks in advance
my software version : windows mobile 6.5 pro
CE OS 5.2.23103(build 23103.5.3.3)
software version is R3AA035
language region is GENERIC_SG
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Well the simple answer is - it's not there!
You just have one option - SE keyboard.
As for interface - what do you mean?
If you want default WM 6.5 UI just use default Panel.
All the apps now look a bit different since now it's WM 6.5.3 which is much changed from 6.5.2..............
thanks for the reply brudder!
its sad to see they took the input options away.
anyway sorry for being a noob myself , how do i set back to the default UI or
the classic today screen ?
cos no matter how i try it still brings me back to either those installed panels .
i have read that after the update , radio fm should be available.but i cant seem to locate it anywhere as well.
sigh.. this is getting really fustrating .
Okay.
Radio is in SlideView - press the left/down button once under the left call button.
Under Multimedia you'll find the radio.
Default UI - one of the Panels. Double click the same button, you'll see Panels = homescreens to choose from.
WM default homescreen is looking a bit different now however it can be set as W 6.1
in Settings - Today....

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