Hi all, another noob!
I've done a few searches to no avail so a simple question with lots of possible answers I'm sure:
As I have just received my O2 XDA Orbit, what, if anything, would the Moderators/Admin guys recommend I do to improve the performance of my Orbit (not that I am aware of any limits so far) or what essential bits of software should I have? Please be aware that my knowledge of computers, PDA's and all this other techno-wizardry could be written on the back of a nano-bot in large font, so please, it will have to be kept to a very very simple level.
If I am too dumb to be able to do anything other than enjoy what I have, please feel free to say so!
Garneth said:
Hi all, another noob!
I've done a few searches to no avail so a simple question with lots of possible answers I'm sure:
As I have just received my O2 XDA Orbit, what, if anything, would the Moderators/Admin guys recommend I do to improve the performance of my Orbit (not that I am aware of any limits so far) or what essential bits of software should I have? Please be aware that my knowledge of computers, PDA's and all this other techno-wizardry could be written on the back of a nano-bot in large font, so please, it will have to be kept to a very very simple level.
If I am too dumb to be able to do anything other than enjoy what I have, please feel free to say so!
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You could try reading the wiki - or using the search button for a start.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis
But U guess that being a noob you have the honour of asking 1 silly question!!!
Enjoy the forums.
chandlercjh said:
You could try reading the wiki - or using the search button for a start.....
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Artemis
But U guess that being a noob you have the honour of asking 1 silly question!!!
Enjoy the forums.
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You see, one stupid question and I get access to something I wouldn't have known to look for. Now all I have to do is understand wtf it's all about. Never heard of a wiki before so I'm not sure what to do about that. That link looks great, but again I have no idea how to utilise it.
Sometimes, some of you guys forget just how difficult it is for noobs to this game!
Thanks though.
Since you are not looking for anything particular, using the search would be useless - the wiki is good but has many information for advanced noobies so why don't you start with reading all the threads that you find to be interesting.
I'd recommend you to go to pocketpcmag.com and check out the "best sites" section and start reading about pdas in general, download some apps and get to know Windows Mobile. Try your first registry hack or simply take a look inside to find out how it funtions.
When you have managed this (could take a month or more) then pick a ROM and flash it to your device. Before you do this be sure to do use the USPL patch and make sure you are doing everthing right BEFORE you do it! When your device is "bricked" you probably need help from somebody in the forum. It's better to have a working backup plan before you try that.
I think Meschle's ROM is a good start if you ever wanna try because he included the USPL patch to be sure that uploading his ROM doesn't mess with your pda.
Have fun using this great pda!
Registerme said:
Since you are not looking for anything particular, using the search would be useless - the wiki is good but has many information for advanced noobies so why don't you start with reading all the threads that you find to be interesting.
I'd recommend you to go to pocketpcmag.com and check out the "best sites" section and start reading about pdas in general, download some apps and get to know Windows Mobile. Try your first registry hack or simply take a look inside to find out how it funtions.
When you have managed this (could take a month or more) then pick a ROM and flash it to your device. Before you do this be sure to do use the USPL patch and make sure you are doing everthing right BEFORE you do it! When your device is "bricked" you probably need help from somebody in the forum. It's better to have a working backup plan before you try that.
I think Meschle's ROM is a good start if you ever wanna try because he included the USPL patch to be sure that uploading his ROM doesn't mess with your pda.
Have fun using this great pda!
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Thanks for that...things do start to become clearer. I will check out that web site and I think I now realise that this site is more for advanced users than complete newbies like me...sorry!
I will try a registy hack (once I find out how to do it... )
Thanks for your reply! <beer>
hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?
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Yes, use search and don't post new threads.
What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
Well, just to give the benefit of the doubt, try VITO's SMS-Chat (not free). PocketCM is probably the slickest Threaded SMS that's FREE, so I'm sticking to it for my needs. However, many of VITO's iWindowsMobile programs seem to um... "draw inspiration" from tene's PocketCM suite, and thus, the iPhone. Check them out.
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@curious george
I have to give them the benefit of the doubt the first time I see it from them. As a beginner I was initially intimidated by the elitist behavior of some board members here.
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What is with all of these new threads and posts by people that obviously haven't searched? BLAH.
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Dude, no doubt. Look and your and I's join date versus the number of posts or threads we have started. Its amazing. Don't get me wrong I know I did it as a newb too but dang. It is getting out of hand. before long all of the worlds best devs will leave this site for lack of control!!!
FYI, giving them answers in these new repeat threads only goes to encourage the behaivor.
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
even if this is a developer forum, which surely is True to sharing and creating ideas (or softwares) - no doubt, the notion Helping one another should never be disregarded..
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i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Partially true. The evil you are describing is a turn earn system. The reason why this site is getting so difficult search is because tollerance has allowed newbs to continue to post new threads with out any restraint and it spreads the answers to common or frequently asked questions everywhere. IMO what needs to happen is a requirement needs to be established for new threads to be started. That would solve it.
ytsejam_ said:
i really don't agree with the search before posting attitude some people keep implementing.. especially on how the search function of this forum suck..
have you ever tried searching (in forum search - not google forum search, which is way way broad) with the keywords SMS or GUI in a string? it will never give you a helpful answer because the search disregards words less than 3 letters (to filter out articles and/or/at/etc i presume) and returns you with bull**** search reports (and how can you ever search for SMS anyway)..
also, since this is a forum, and a thread contains numerous posts, search engines tend to patch up words from different posts and construct them to a phrase as a result matching your querry..
another point is, since most of these people are noobs.. they don't actually know what they are looking for.. c'mon guys.. how can you search for something if you even don't have any clue on what you are searching for..
like his query, he's looking for a pocketCM style SMS.. maybe he is reffering to is a THREADED SMS style, which a newbie obviously wouldn't know (how can someone new instantly know that a chat style SMS is called a threaded SMS anyway?)..
or maybe he is looking for something that is VISUALLY and FUNCTIONALLY the same as PocketCM's SMS function but without the Contacts part - how can you even translate this querry into search keywords?
he's not been in the forum for ages like most of some people here, so even old stuff for us, will sound and feel new to newer posters..
for us, searching for something like threaded SMS is very easy since we have already passed and read all these threads reagarding SMS and we ALREADY HAVE A HINT on what (product name or keyword) to search for.. so don't expect everyone (especially newbies) to find his answers in his first few hours of searching..
given that.. the next best thing to do.. is ask those who already know..
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search..
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Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
ytsejam_ said:
maybe the best response to these posts is to give them hints on what specific keywords you are going to use for a fruitful search.. and not flame them to damnation..
this is still a forum.. and a forum is defined as an online place to Share Ideas and Help One Another..
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Hence why I explained SMS-Chat. There's no point if this thread turned into a discussion thread over the merits of searching, but I do know that there has been an absolute backlog of uninformed posts that could easily be searched. Often times, I even see posts stating "too many pages to read, so i'll ask this again..." or "i'm too lazy to read this whole thread, can anyone just give me a quick answer..." or "i'm new here. i want my phone to look like the iphone. i found some links, but i don't know what a cab is. this is getting annoying "
It's frustrating. Another example is the SPB Mobile Shell 2.0 Skin Collections thread. It states in the first post that the thread should just be for skins, yet I see way too many posts saying "Thanks" and not much else. I'm against flaming myself, but I'd just like to point out that afarinella97, the OP, has actually been a member of this forum for longer than I have.
Btw:
VITO SMS-Chat
Palm Threaded SMS
Birdsoft Extreme Text
Windows Mobile 6.1 Built-in Threading
Like I said, I stick with PocketCM. There have been requests for the developer to make the SMS standalone, but nothing's occurred yet. Have fun texting!
tguerena said:
Right on brother, some people tend to get a little too big for the britches and forget that forum etiquette goes both ways. I've read some pretty mean posts, and I really don't get why people have to talk down to the noobs. All I'm saying is if you wanna help someone out, great! That's damn decent of you. If you don't want to help someone out then don't, but keep your rude comments to yourself.
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As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
why not open a new section called 'Questions' for anyone with questions to post there? ... most likely they'll never get answered but at least they wont be posted over here !!!
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
afarinella97 said:
hello everyone! Thank you all for the answers but probably I would not have explained, I apologize in advance.I tried and looked with google xda but what I needed was simply a part of the programme cm pocket only pefr the sms ...Two programs will know wellocket cm I had for some time when I had a p3600 and I find it very nice but I prefer settings contatcs manager by default ...,Vito sms softwae I tried it but I am not crazy.
I just wanted to know if with some modifications registry could simply implement the graphics of sms as in the programme in pocket cm on my htc touch...sorry again and thanks in advance if you can help me now that i have been more clear with my question...
Bye
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hi you have to try vijay phone tools , Search that (on google ), I don't have just now in my hand ( I can find the cabor link but afeternoon)but I can say you it allows you to have sms models , vey easy use , I have unistalled it but it is very good work from vijay555 (moderator ere) and install pocket cm keyboard 0.13 for the SIP
I'm not Ok with those who flame noobs systematically , the search function is not easy here. For me I have a look on this forum to see if new subjects , and also I'm using google search and subscrbe to thread here
there are too many things for a new one here , it is really very great , so help them as you wanted to be helped in your beginning
Cheers to all
curious george said:
As spoken by a Newb!!!! Its not that we don't want to help out. Its that when help is spread all over the place it makes it difficult for newbs to search when they should be searching and difficult for people who have been here for a while to provide answers that have already been obtained.
you probably don't search.
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As a matter of fact poophead, I do search and I search often and frequently. And yes I said poophead not because I'm a 3rd grader, but alas because you're a poophead. All I was trying to say is be nice, us "noobs" search more than you think.
As a recent newbie, I do feel obligated to say a few things here:
Things to do for newbies:
1) Read
2) Read
3) Read
I discovered the site (from a link on fatwallet) after I bought my tmobile wing last October. Ever since then I was doing a lot of reading (more than what I do with my major - my advisor absolutely hates that, and so does my wife too), and learned a lot about the roms, terminology, great apps, etc.
I do not discourage asking questions, but I do think as newbie the question should be asked INTELLIGENTLY, which comes from a person who has done the reading and given a lot of thought about it. Frankly, I think OP's question is one of those.
As for the rest of us (elite, non-newbie, etc), a question should be judged by the quality, but not by the question mark. OP's question, for example, he/she understand what he/she is after, but don't quite understand the details which is OK. Given a few hints then he/she can start searching for the real thing. Azimuth21 has given some examples of bad questions and those should definitely not tolerated.
In general the question should be asked at the appropriate place; either the thread that directly concerning the topic (like PointUI, pocketcm, S2U2, etc) or at the general section of this forum. After all, the general section is there for this purpose.
Wtf is wrong with people here?
The thread has become an off-topic ranting thread already.
Best approach for such questions would be to either not reply or answer it without ranting about not using search and go.
Eg.
Newbie:
"hello to everyone, there is a program like pocket cm but only for sms?"
Reply:
"Tene (the developer of PCM) did not provide a separate module of PCM for just SMS, in other words, it's not possible to get just the SMS feature of PCM. You can try looking for Vito SMS (commercial app) or upgrading to WM6.1 for the threaded SMS style. Good luck."
See how simple and peaceful that is? And you have provided all necessary information. Can't we all just get along?
Like a famous dev here once said: "There are no stupid questions, just offensive answers."
because people dont know HOW to search properly. when you click search at the top here you can use the forum search and type in sms and click ONLY search the thread titles. this GREATLY reduces the numbers of hits for the word sms which would be hundreds of threads. i just typed threaded sms into google and got a slew of good programs right on the first results page- iwindowsmobile, palm's, txtman, etc etc.
People honestly dont try because i bet everything i own there are at LEAST 10 similar threads of this exact same topic out there with the answers too. How many times can the same basic questions be asked and answered? This just dilutes the real content of this developing forum which is for new programs and hacks and such.
all threads like this end up doing is making even MORE search results confusing the next batch of noobs with even more results when trying to search.
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
http://www.1800pocketpc.com/2008/02/18/txtman-20.html
the0ne said:
Its no eyeCandy Like PocketCM but it gives u threaded SMS feature like inn PocketCM
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Well, WM6.1 has exactly the same feature as a standard...
And doubling what Azimuth21 said, I'd rather stick with PocketCM.
And.. my penny for the discussion: exactly, as DaVince said - if you don't want to answer, do not.
I agree that all the searching difficulties arose from not keeping the forum clean, but now it is done, you can't reverse it.... searching for something so generic is almost impossible here.
Newbie
As a newbie myself I can say that at first it is not common sense navigating the forum. I found that just reading through the pages (new posts, hermesm6 etc.) and being patient some other ignorant sap had the same questions and concerns I had. Us newbies just need to be patient and enjoy the process or READING and not just come here to suck out what they need and not enjoy the forum. There are so many things of interest here and to just spend all this time looking up an sms app. Anyway, hope the newbie can flash, I had the same issue. for me it was a memory consumption issue with pocketcm. I like the 6.1 threaded sms due to its intergration. I would also suggest searching for threaded sms as this is what you are really looking for. I don't think you are looking for anything sms. Also when searching try to select show posts only this seems to work well for me. Enjoy the ride, Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaad!
Oh look, I'm a member now, WHOOPIE!!
Hello everybody.
I want to make a skin by my own and tried to change the "perfect" skin from greatbal!
I want to change the icons on the front menu of SPB Mobile Shell 2.1.2!
I want to take bigger icons. Now my question. How can i realize it.
Where i can find these icons and is it possible the make the background of the icons visible?
Many Thx for helping!
Shawn
for you the same like for any other beginner, WHY DO YOU OPEN A THREAD and don´t ask Greatball or post it in the Mobileshell thread or read there how to make a Skin ?
Unbelievable: I have a question, i open a thread
Ok sorry i didnt know that is possible to write directly a PN!
I thought the problem must be posted in the board so that everybody could learn.
Shawn
bluemetalaxe said:
for you the same like for any other beginner, WHY DO YOU OPEN A THREAD and don´t ask Greatball or post it in the Mobileshell thread or read there how to make a Skin ?
Unbelievable: I have a question, i open a thread
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bluemetalaxe said:
for you the same like for any other beginner, WHY DO YOU OPEN A THREAD and don´t ask Greatball or post it in the Mobileshell thread or read there how to make a Skin ?
Unbelievable: I have a question, i open a thread
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Maybe because his thread has received four/five replies already (even if they are all utterly useless). I always post in the existing threads and rarely ever receive replies and there should be no reason why people can't create threads here.. Forums simply work like that.. Cluttered maybe, but there is no help board on these forums so don't blame members who ask for help in new threads.
The amount of time I've seen people complain about making new threads or asking questions makes me think.. If only instead of complaining and flaming you would actually help them then maybe the users wouldn't need so much help.
Sorry OP for side tracking your thread.
here are some threads you can read on customising SPB Mobile Shell
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354111
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424933
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427178
You have to edit the qa_status.dat, define your graphics: main image and the corresponding mask (which gives transparency effect). Try editing my qa_status.dat file and see corresponding result as a practice.
good luck.
Problem is that there are some many new users that are too lazy to search or to read a thread, there are so many threads about how to customize MS and they dont even know what a PM is. Sorry, I can´t and will never understand such people and its really not helpfull for us all on such a big side if every user makes it this way.
@greatbal
Thanks for helping but i still know the Files which i have to prepare to take my wished effect.
But thanks that u take a look at my question and did not make such a trouble if someone needs help.
I cant understand that it is so terrible posting a question if other threads are so big and not compact that it is hard for a newbie to find a special thing.
But its Ok. In future i will try to contact Greatbal with PN and you will see other Newbie will have the same problem and they will also open threads.
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Hey guys,
I've been trying really hard to get a games folder or button in my programs launcher, but the menu doesn't exist under Spb Customise Menu.
I can only Add "My Menu" and then under that a games directory, but i've read many other posts where people say they have it already in their Customise menu list and just need to tick the box to get it.
I'm currently using Greatbal's Diamond theme for SPB MS 2.1 on an HTC Touch Dual.
Any suggestions?
I'd really like to have one folder with all my games as some have installed in weird places (when I haven't been able to tell it where to install).
Any help or advise is appreciated.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398571
or
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402021
as cruel as it sounds- you shouldn't post an entire new thread for something like this..instead try searching like the person who did it for you in the above post
i acknowledge that, and if it's appropriate i have no dramas with this thread being deleted.
i did happen to look at both of those links before posting. all 1 million posts. haha. and didn't see the answer i was looking for.
i probably just missed it i guess. but i really didn't post without having a look first.
what he means is that if you encountered a problem regarding a specific program, it is more promptly suitable if you post it in the same thread/s regarding the application instead of opening a new one.
i know a new thread will gather more attention but surely it will not guarantee instant or faster answers than replying onto an exsisting thread.
also, there is the Q&A thread so if you have specific (and isolated) questions, you should post it there and hope that someone answers.. that is why it is called QUESTION and ANSWER.. not ANSWERS are here thread.
sincere apologies guys.
i'll delete this one and put it in the Q&A thread
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Ever noticed that active sync is not only taking a 2 meg byte out of your memory ... that on top it trickles down and never releases memory in 2kb steps over time/ I tried to install async-killer from eLias but that doesn't help with this problem.
Any solution or idea beside running a RAM cleaner all the time which may cause other problems (WiFi or Navi gets killed most likely)?
post in q&a section for questions
**DO NOT POST COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS IN THIS THREAD**
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as taken from this thread.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=441728
mods please move thread or delete
Though I appreciate your input Joel, I search and searched the forum and there seemed not to be a solution THAT's actually why I posted here that perhaps a developer may look into it and finally creates a solution.
Didn't find a way to report to admin for closure or to delete.
tyguy said:
Though I appreciate your input Joel, I search and searched the forum and there seemed not to be a solution THAT's actually why I posted here that perhaps a developer may look into it and finally creates a solution.
Didn't find a way to report to admin for closure or to delete.
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i didn't say use "search" there is a new section in xda for questions.
opening a new thread in Development and hacking section is supposed to be limited to people that are contributing (uploading a skin or new software.) This was not necessarily enforced so much before because we didn't have the questions section. Now that we have it though, please utilize it
Best reguards