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Help with AT&T 8525

Hi everyone
I just purchased this phone or pda off ebay and I am going to be signing up with att. Right now I can use it because I have been given 30 day trial. I love it but I am having trouble with some aspects of it. There is so much to know. One of the problems I have had is sending email through ebay. I bougth this to do business. If i try to answer a question through my ebay messages when I push to send the reply message nothing happens. I also try to access tmobile to make a payment and when i enter password and log on it wont log on, the page just sits there. Are there tweak for this. Also on craiglist I tried to post an ad an when I went to post it I got a message that said unable to process request. Any help or suggestion fo my new phone in reagrd to tweaking it will help. I have also noticed that aol messages loads slowly on egde. Are there any tweaks for this. It can take forever. I know I have a lot to lear and this is my first smatphone and I am excited about it but I am also lost. Thanks in advance for any sugestion or help
Mike
Long Island

first thing to do is to start looking at custom Roms, the operating system of your device, and find one that will do what you are looking for.
then if you decide to upgrade, then read this very closely and follow the instruction to the letter,
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
I am using this one and it works great, it resolved all my issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
the search on these two site are great, BTw welcome onboard .

most of the problems that you mentioned could just be a browser problem, lots of pages dont work the same, but the general consensus is that PIE blows, you might want to try a different browser. opera, and opera mini seems to be very popular. I feel obligated to mention menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki (otherwise he's gonna butt in and mention it himself in this thread ).

Thank you so much. I believe I have WM6 on my device Im not sure if it came from att or was downloaded. How would I check to see if WM6 is on my phone. If it is do I go to the next step and install Olipro v7 2.10 I guess this replaces PIE if im right. Im learning but slowly. Thank you again this is helping me tremendously

XtreMe_G said:
most of the problems that you mentioned could just be a browser problem, lots of pages dont work the same, but the general consensus is that PIE blows, you might want to try a different browser. opera, and opera mini seems to be very popular. I feel obligated to mention menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki (otherwise he's gonna butt in and mention it himself in this thread ).
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Thank you so much I am going to look into reading up on this menneisyys' guides on browser which you can find in the wiki

F2504x4 said:
first thing to do is to start looking at custom Roms, the operating system of your device, and find one that will do what you are looking for.
then if you decide to upgrade, then read this very closely and follow the instruction to the letter,
http://www.pocketpcaddict.com/forum...-unlocking-cid-unlocking-wm6-your-8525-a.html
I am using this one and it works great, it resolved all my issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334946
the search on these two site are great, BTw welcome onboard .
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Thank you for the great tips. I am starting to feel better. I had heard about these tweaks but did not know how to go about them. I needed to ask. Do I need to activesync my device to upload these programs. Thank you in advance for the help it truly is greatly appreciated and what is bicking your device mean. you can be sure I wont be doing anything till I understan what im doing fully.
Mike
Long Island

those links are all about flashing roms, and i dont think you want to go that route yet. learn how to use your device first, only then you can start looking at upgrading roms.

XtreMe_G said:
those links are all about flashing roms, and i dont think you want to go that route yet. learn how to use your device first, only then you can start looking at upgrading roms.
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I will definitly take your advice on that and stay clar of that.

Another great tool to use to learn, is to click the "New Posts" button at the top, and read posts that related to the (8525) Hermes forums, even if you do not understand just what they are discussing, in time you will pick up a lot of a useful info.
This is what i do several times a week in the evenings.

Help for guy new to the Universal

Hi everyone
I'm familiar with Windows Mobile but not to the HTC Universal itself. Can people recommend to me what the best WM 6.1 ROM is, how I unlock the device to use on any network and where I can find a list of recommended apps to use on WM 6.1 with the Universal?
Many thanks
Sam

That's a "no no" question to post here, there are many people who don't like to see this types of questions because it seems so simple to arrive and ask something like it without doing some search and read in the forum, please don't misunderstand me, I'm not mad at you, anyway it's better to read some and then ask.
So, the best WM6 rom is the one that better suits your needs, go to the WM6 part of the Universal, read some, read the comments, many of them are heavily personalized, there are "vanilla" types (simple and clean, no branding, etc.), there are some that give you lots of software already inside the Rom, so you'll save your precious Ram space for something else, some are speedier, some are more stable -even if this is not a critic, that's it, there's lot of effort that people put inside those Roms, for FREE!-, so, read, read, ask specific doubts inside the thread of each one, try (be careful!!!), learn, share and be happy!
Unlock (read!), go to the wiki (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Universal), for the apps READ! and go here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=248409).
Cheers

Thanks, I worked it all out anyway

UpGrading Instructions

Hi,
I have been a member of this forum on and off for a good number of years now. Thank-you for all the hard work - I have wm6. I mess around with the PC etc all the time but have always been too scared to touch the PDA! I do not want a brick! I have searched this forum and found a number of instructions for upgrading or putting on another OS. I am unsure as to which one I should use - yes I am ready, I think to take the plunge. I really want just wm6.1 and no added programs, I will add all those as and when I need them. I am sick and tired of not using most of the programs on the PDA!
Has anyone any help for me please? I understand it is on my head, but someone told me that it really is not as difficult as I have made it out to be in my head!
Kind Regards,
Will

Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=381600

I'm new to this

well I'm to this l and i was just wondering a couple things like what is a ROM and how do i get the new windows mobile 7 theme stright on my htc hd2 or how do i get the games for my ps1 games stright on my phone without hooking it up to a computer .

Play station info:
I went into the Apps part of this forum and searched for PSX
I would suggest you read the sticky threads at the top of each section on this forum it will tell you lots.
Good luck

curtismeulen said:
well I'm to this l and i was just wondering a couple things like what is a ROM and how do i get the new windows mobile 7 theme stright on my htc hd2 or how do i get the games for my ps1 games stright on my phone without hooking it up to a computer .
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How about using the search function, looking at the stickys and using Google to find the answers to your questions? It gets a bit redundant replying to the same questions from lazy people that cannot be bothered to invest some time into the forum.

If you don't want to answer the question then perhaps you should save your time even more and not reply? I'm no stranger to forums, but I do find this one particularly hard to follow/read/search.
From what I understand of how search engines work (for example Google's pagerank system) the search results would be dramatically improved if people posted links to relevant pages. This would also be a much better use of time than repeatedly having a go at new visitors for not searching. The more places that point to the answers, the easier it is to find them.
Some people are also happy to reply, because they know the answer straight away and it will take 60 seconds to reply. I don't see that it hurts to ask, in the hope that it will avoid 30 minutes of searching, which of course, is probably going on at the same time. If you are looking for something, do you not ask around whist you look yourself?
Anyway, more constructively back to the original question... @curtismeulen
Basically the ROM is the operating system that your phone runs on. You can install apps on to your phone (which mostly come in .CAB files) and most ROM come with a load of apps preinstalled.
HTC make the standard ROM for the HD2, but also phone companies (O2, T-mobile, etc) make slightly customised versions for the phones they sell themselves, - for e.g. adding/removing particular apps, or a special startup screen or background image, etc. If you have one of these kind of ROMs then you can't install the HTC one without running special programs.
The third kind of ROMs are 'custom ROMs' made by experts who want to always have the cutting edge software, have the phoen set up exactly as they prefer and to improve on what HTC do. Again special programs are required to install these, and always when you install a new ROM there's the risk of something going wrong and your phone not working any more.
Here's some links to useful info:
The HD2/Leo page on this sites wiki:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Leo
a list of ROMs for the HD2 (though it's not quite up to date):
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Leo/ROMs
Stuff about installing different ROMs:
Changing "official ROMs" from one to another: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314
Installing any ROM you like: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=606713
Personally I use this ROM:
Artemis HD2 ROM Family Ver 15.5: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=612580
The instructions there are also quite useful to give you an idea of the differences between ROMs, etc.

mpaxton said:
If you don't want to answer the question then perhaps you should save your time even more and not reply? I'm no stranger to forums, but I do find this one particularly hard to follow/read/search.
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Don't be obtuse, the stickys tell you everything you need to know with regards to ROMs and ROM flashing. Google search 'ps1 emulator for windows mobile' and FPSEce and a number of other emulators are listed in the first link.
It probably took him longer to register to ask the question than it would have done to research it for himself.

I dont undertstand why people get so offensive, i thought forums like these were made to help people with questions, even noobs?

nirvanafreak919 said:
I dont undertstand why people get so offensive, i thought forums like these were made to help people with questions, even noobs?
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Actually, this forum is call xda "DEVELOPERS".... name clearly means it's full of developers.... not really a place for newbies. There are plenty of help forums out there. This forum is for the advanced user who wants to learn to hack and help develop. I didn't even post for the first year or 2 that I was a member... not until I felt comfortable with my knowledge. I used other help forums that are meant for newbie questions and just watched and learned from this forum.

Help form
For friendly site try htchd2forum.com They are great, but as stated, this is dev site, theirs is help site, big difference,, good luck

mpaxton said:
Anyway, more constructively back to the original question... @curtismeulen
Basically the ROM is the operating system that your phone runs on. You can install apps on to your phone (which mostly come in .CAB files) and most ROM come with a load of apps preinstalled.
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Actually ROM is Read Only Memory
It has come to be used as short form for the coded OS that is used in the ROM and that specifically is the "ROM image" of the OS in use.
So any cooked (or otherwise) "ROM" we are talking about is not the same as the "ROM" within the device.

...and even though it's called read only memory, it can still be written to, otherwise we'd not be able to install different kinds of operating system, etc. So to me it's an arbitrary set of letters used to describe something that's vaguely relevant to the original usage of them!

mpaxton said:
...and even though it's called read only memory, it can still be written to, otherwise we'd not be able to install different kinds of operating system, etc. So to me it's an arbitrary set of letters used to describe something that's vaguely relevant to the original usage of them!
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You don't install anything to the ROM.
ROMs are flashable, which is different to installing things to. OSs are flashed, not installed, to devices.
The internal memory part of the device is different to the ROM, it is an 'open' writable section. It may well be on the same memory chip, but is different in terms of usage available to it.

mpaxton said:
...and even though it's called read only memory, it can still be written to, otherwise we'd not be able to install different kinds of operating system, etc. So to me it's an arbitrary set of letters used to describe something that's vaguely relevant to the original usage of them!
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And as a follow on from rp-x1 and also as a quick history lesson to you "youngsters" the correct term is actually "EPROM" chips (Electronically Programmable Read Only Memory) and when they were first used you couldn't write to them unless you had the appropriate equipment and that included UV "fixing ovens"!!!!!!
So, it's not an arbitrary set of letters, but, more a corruption of a very precise acronym which is now used in completely the wrong way.

[Q] How to Install WM7

Hello there
I am new here, I have HTC hd2 with Andriod Nand installed on it, Can some one please guide me how i can install WM7 on it, whats are steps to followed
Thanks

+1 I've read somewhere that there was an Windows Phone 7 ROM for HD2 and was linked to this thread. But there was several faults, like making the SDcard useless, no why to save anything because of no storage and other things.
So I wanted to check out this forum to see if any new Beta2 had been made, but its just a chaos of threads and versions. Trying to read through the first sticky thread, but it links to a ton of other threads and no one mentions a second release/ BETA2 for the WP7 Mango ROM.
Am not the only one given up on these forums, so is it possible to make one stickythread with the latest ROM-update, with a guide to install, the faults in the ROM ++?
EDIT:
Realised I might be in the wrong forum, and should have gone to the Q&A and general one. But even though thats a more general thread explaning alot more, it doesnt give a good guide to what you need to know, do, and fix. Am used to Windows Mobile 6.5 and do not know anything about activation, app store, updates and stuff like that.

Are you guys really serious? Is it indeed too difficult to read through some threads? Those which offer ROMs usually are titled exactly using this title...
Also, inside those threads, you´ll find short tutorials how to install a WP7 ROM on your HD2 - some flashing experience will definitely be helpful.
WP7 does not destroy your SD card, it formats it WP7-specific; if you later want to use Android or Windows Mobile, just re-format the card with SD formatter software (which is a free app).
Before you start, 3 key things:
- HSPL 2.08 must be on your device
- Radio ROM 2.15 must be on your device
- MAGLDR 1.13 must be on your device
The january/february ROMs are the very first ones, the may/june ROMs are the latest official WP7 build (called "NoDo"), there is even a brand new "beta" ROM with the upcoming "Mango" build (not yet available officially from MS).
All "NoDo" custom ROMs are jailbroken. If you want to use Live services and/or Marketplace, you need an activation code from MS. You´ll find tons of threads on how to get that code (it takes just a few minutes). For starters, maybe its best to select a ROM with WP7 build 7392 (NoDo), those run nicely.
However, if all this is too much for you, I think it might be better if you don´t flash your devices.

Hello TICTAC
I have a question to you.You have made some awesome looking Clocks for WiMob.Big thanks for that.But,is there any possibility to make something in this way for WP7?In the look of Lumetec.That was my favorit clock.
Or is this to complicated to make?

quentin.0160 said:
Hello TICTAC
I have a question to you.You have made some awesome looking Clocks for WiMob.Big thanks for that.But,is there any possibility to make something in this way for WP7?In the look of Lumetec.That was my favorit clock.
Or is this to complicated to make?
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Problem is, the clock would have to be an app, not just a widget like for CHT (or even a part of the CHT home screen). I read somewhere that a tile would not work, it would consume too much energy.
There are actually a few analog clock apps in the marketplace, maybe one of the makers of those would agree doing something with my graphics. I´ll have to check this, since I move to WP7 with my HD2 now, too (got navigation running, finally).

Yeah WP7 rocks.
Thats a pity that we have no good lookin clocks for WP7.
What woul it be to make a livetile like HTC Hub or something,but in the look of your Lumetec Flip Clock.
The other clocks that you´ve ment are like APPS,like night stand or smt.

What and absolutely ridiculous question to ask when there is an abundance of info and guides on how to install WP7.
Also this is the wrong place to post questions anyway, This is the dev section not the n00b help desk, If you want to ask question do it in the Q&A forum.
The 10 post rule is bloody useless, It really needs to be 100 to make any real difference, It would stop 99% of these silly topics instantly.

MAGLDR has a SD format option incase peoples SD cards stop working properly. Also, anyone calling Windows Phone 7 "WM7" shouldn't install it as they clearly not paying attention.

Before you guys go piling up on this dude, I have to actually agree with him!
This is the 4th type of Windows phone I have had, and thus, the 4th forum I have been on this site. I am telling you guys right now, this is also the POOREST information about flashing a device I have seen on this site.
I mean, I am not clear if I have to install WM7 on my micro SD card? I have a LOT of experience flashing other Windows phone, yet, I have read, and re-read the "How to" for WM7, and I still am not clear about the proper steps.
Sorry guys, but simply, the information is NOT very clear. I certainly appreciate those that are putting in the time to develop the ROM's, and to write tutorials, etc... I really do! YOU GUYS ROCK!!! BUT......I think those of you who are writing the FAQ and what not need to take a step back and re-read your work and consider: "Would a guy who knows nothing about flashing his phone be able to follow this". Easily, you should come to the conclusion that it is not that easy to follow, simply by the fact that a few WITH flashing experience are complaining that they are not clear about the info.
With regards..............

I too find it difficult at times, could do with a simple wiki with basic flashing and rom guides, maybe just the top 5 roms.
I've also been messing around with computers, satellite boxes and phones for 30 years now....i know a bit, but not a lot....

Hello, I will ask my question here, it's regarding installation of jailbroken rom... I installed NoDo rom, and I couldn't get activation over email, is it possible to install apps without activation? my main apps would be Facebook and some app for Flickr, don't need anything else...

sonusman said:
Before you guys go piling up on this dude, I have to actually agree with him!
This is the 4th type of Windows phone I have had, and thus, the 4th forum I have been on this site. I am telling you guys right now, this is also the POOREST information about flashing a device I have seen on this site.
I mean, I am not clear if I have to install WM7 on my micro SD card? I have a LOT of experience flashing other Windows phone, yet, I have read, and re-read the "How to" for WM7, and I still am not clear about the proper steps.
Sorry guys, but simply, the information is NOT very clear. I certainly appreciate those that are putting in the time to develop the ROM's, and to write tutorials, etc... I really do! YOU GUYS ROCK!!! BUT......I think those of you who are writing the FAQ and what not need to take a step back and re-read your work and consider: "Would a guy who knows nothing about flashing his phone be able to follow this". Easily, you should come to the conclusion that it is not that easy to follow, simply by the fact that a few WITH flashing experience are complaining that they are not clear about the info.
With regards..............
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Well for starters you will have a hard job installing "WM7" because it doesn't exist. So that shows how much reading you have done.
There is plenty of info on how to flash WP7, I find it absolutely amazing that you are finding it hard to flash it.
You simply load magldr, select usb flasher and then load your DFT flasher up that you downloaded and flash. If you dont know how to install magldr then you should go to the magldr thread.
And FYI , WP7 goes onto NAND.

Well.......you can lead a horse to water.....

lol
setup.exe---> next--->next---> yes----> ok
copy and paste crack

sonusman said:
Before you guys go piling up on this dude, I have to actually agree with him!
This is the 4th type of Windows phone I have had, and thus, the 4th forum I have been on this site. I am telling you guys right now, this is also the POOREST information about flashing a device I have seen on this site.
I mean, I am not clear if I have to install WM7 on my micro SD card? I have a LOT of experience flashing other Windows phone, yet, I have read, and re-read the "How to" for WM7, and I still am not clear about the proper steps.
Sorry guys, but simply, the information is NOT very clear. I certainly appreciate those that are putting in the time to develop the ROM's, and to write tutorials, etc... I really do! YOU GUYS ROCK!!! BUT......I think those of you who are writing the FAQ and what not need to take a step back and re-read your work and consider: "Would a guy who knows nothing about flashing his phone be able to follow this". Easily, you should come to the conclusion that it is not that easy to follow, simply by the fact that a few WITH flashing experience are complaining that they are not clear about the info.
With regards..............
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To be honest, i dont think they care. If they have gone into the effort of developing it, which isnt easy, i think they would at least expect you to do a little work, rather than them spending another few hours writting a tutorial for noobs!
I found it very easy, all i did was type in google 'wp7 and hd2' and i got a youtube video easily explaining it!! If you really want to know, you will find out.
Dev teams rely on the community, other people helping others, such as those on youtube.
You clearly havent even looked into it, otherwise you would have picked up that its WP7 and not WM7, may be trivial, but it shows that you havent really searched because entering this into any search engine and it would almost correct you!

Noob to Noob
Try here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1021837
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=971478&highlight=install+Windows+Phone+HTC+HD2
Hope this helps