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anybody try this PocketCM keyboard for htc touch??
like iphone keyboad....very fast....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&NR=1
this the screen shot....nice application and its free..
iphone look a like keyboard
http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php
The author asked for the app not to be posted as it's a Beta
But you can keep up with its progress here:
http://www.pocketcm.com
I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch.
If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.
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I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch. If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.
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It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
Best SIP outside of phonepad!
Contact Manager is also a must for a touch user!
any1 tried to disable the dictionary? seems like its very troublesome for me as i cant type shortform.
EDIT - To disable the dictionary its in the setting -> input -> option
Only became very usable for me with "Enable Suggention" NOT selected.
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It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
Go to the website, or check out the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&eurl=http://pocketcm.com/screenshot.php?v=3
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The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
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Whilst I agree that this is a good idea, it just doesn't work for me, I'm afraid. I think that I, and perhaps others, tend to type at least one or two non-dictionary words per text/message. I also use capital letters and punctuation a lot and, as I mentioned, I have very big hands!
I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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carlosp_uk said:
It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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Have you tried Tengo Thumb?
I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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I see...you can add words to it too
off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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samawil said:
off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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totally off subject but it's "Touch Settings", the program to customise all the programs on the cube/mediahub and weather settings etc. I should change my sig though as it keeps popping up OT. !
I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.
spartanrob said:
I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.
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It kind of is, just tap & hold the symbol key (lower LHS) and you get the . slide a little to the right & get the other most common punctuation marks.
You may want to try this skin...
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49
yes this is indeed the best keyboard for ppc.
hey I recently bought an HTC touch and came across this excellent software*kudos to the one who programed it* I would like to ask for help in using this. I downloaded it through my touch directly then nstalled it on the phone memory and went to settings and input then selected PCM Keyboard and then ok but nothing happens I'm still stuck with the same old little keyboard help please thanks
2manyphones said:
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49
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Thanks a lot for this! This is exactly what I wanted in the PCM Keyboard! I was getting sick of opening the full screen PDAMedia Keyboard. I like to see what I type
New cab with working files (all three keyboards) no key appearing fixed and some other bugs (still a couple popping up though) can't wait tell JUVS and some of the other guys get more of the new apps working. Thank you theloanranger !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336587&page=10
Cab file was be switched to new one
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
nice sig with rampage, fedor and don fry
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Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
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works!
it works on my orbit, would like to have dutch language support though...
htc keyboard
can we have vga theme for key board?
no good on my hermes !
leoiden said:
no good on my hermes !
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damn i'll try on hermes too ....and on my artemis ....
but in my ce emulator it also didn't work fully correct....
sometimes i just get black buttons....
It works on my Trinity (WM6) but not the symbol page. But I'm ok with it. Like the 'intelligence' of this over T9, but the scroll left and right (on screen) button is a bit too 'small' and near the edge for ease of scrolling. If that can be fixed, it will be even more perfect.
no good for elf
when i set in french language they a are no letters on keypad
thank you
Anyone manage to 'perfect' this beta version?
While it is useable, without the symbol can pose some inconvenience when you need the symbols.
It works fine on my touch. To get the symbols in blue you press and hold the key. It takes a little getting used to so you don't end up with .. but it does work.
For those getting blank screens, this should only happen when you bring up the keypad without selecting a text field. Meaning if you are in a selected text box the keys should display.
Another bug I found was if you install this keypad and then choose another one that you have installed (pocketCM, HTK, etc), it will not display any text. It's like you are typing in white. The cursor advances, but no text displays. I had to un-install this keypad to get my other input methods to work.
It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21) and every time I was able to type faster and more accurate with the pocketCM version. It was close (1:11 vs 1:08) for a couple sentances. I'm glad to see HTC putting a real finger operational keyboard on the Touch, but for now I will stick with pocketCM.
works on the mogul, install, soft reset...
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It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21)
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Nah man, that's a great idea. I think a "type-off" of sorts is a good way to determine what's best; although everyone has difference preferences, I think 90% of us subconsciously type the same.
any status on a new version that works a little better?
thx.
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working on Hermes!
Its working fine on my Hermes WM6. Still get the blank buttons when trying to use it outside an application. But within application (e.g. Onecontact, IE ect..) all working fine. Even symbol key is working fine.
Its a great keyboard (esp. the T9 version)...First keyboard where the buttons are large and responsive (iv used sooo many now!).
btw...dont forget to softreset after installation before use!
No symbols
I get all the characters and numbers but the symbols are all blank. I am in the UK. Otherwise it's okay. I personally don't like PocketCM because unless there is lots of free memory it just pops up the default keyboard for me.
is there any way to turn the xt9 off i used the keypad for 5 mins adn when i switched to the normal keyboard the xt9 was still there.. can it be turned off?
^^yeah I found that incredibly annoying, I LOVE this keyboard but I had to uninstall it because the T9 would be there even when using the hardware keyboard!
Can anyone post any pics of this keyboard?
Yeah...T9 still there on hardware keyboard is really annoying!
[Update May 10 2010:]
Huge thanks to Soul72 for adding other language support to MaxKey:
- English
- Italian
- German
- Norwegian
- Hungarian
Just follow the instructions below, but download the file below ending in "multilanguage." The other version just has English.
[Original Post:]
Ready for a screen keyboard that's easier to type on? This is a reconfiguration of the fabulous FingerKeyboard 2.1, so all respect to Exidler and Rozenthal. I have maximized the size of the keys as much as possible, focusing on keeping the edge keys further in given that protective cases may make these inaccessible. I also made the symbol keys much more standard (no longer 10 types of smiley faces!!! ) Moving the p and q up is a bit unorthodox, but I think you'll be pleased with the result.
PLEASE NOTE THE FOLLOWING BEFORE INSTALLING:
- You must have FingerKeyboard 2.1 installed for this to work
- FingerKeyboard must be installed on your device, NOT on the card
- The file that does not say "multilanguage" is is only for ENGLISH
- You can close MaxKey by pressing and holding the spacebar
- The attached cab also installs the X1 SoftTouch tweak to maximize your screens responsiveness, for best keyboard performance
- At the moment, uninstalling this requires a few steps that are relatively simple:
- - - Uninstall "Paco SoftTouch MaxKey 0.1" under Settings/System/Remove Programs
- - - Rename /Program Files/FingerKeyb/skin-02-wvga-port-01-eng-bak.txt to skin-02-wvga-port-01-eng.txt
- - - Move skin-02-wvga-port-01-eng.txt to /Program Files/FingerKeyb/Skins
- - - Next time you RE-select FingerKeyb in the SIP selector, the regular key configuration should be back
Install directions:
1. Install FingerKeyboard 2.1 to your device (not card!)
2. Download and install the SoftTouch MaxKey cab that is attached at the bottom of this post
3. Open the SIP selector which is the tiny triangle to the right of the keyboard selector in the middle of the bottom menu bar
4. Select FingerKeyb, and the MaxKey keyboard configuration should appear
5. To unistall, see above
If there is interest in this, I can try to keep developing for other languages and to make improvements based on suggestions. Donations would be highly appreciated.
Donate
Credits:
Exidler and Rozenthal for FingerKeyboard
Fards for teaching me how to make cabs
ChangeLog:
0.1 - First release
0.2 - Fixed the " and ? keys; slight tweak to symbols layout
nice, can you modify one to be a compact qwerty
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nice, can you modify one to be a compact qwerty
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Sorry, what do you mean by "compact qwerty?" Do you mean fewer rows of keys, like 4 rows instead of 5?
finger keyboard does not support compact qwerty(yet at least)
thats great ring-bearer....i ll give it a shot
btw from where u got that cool battery icon on top?
Compact qwerty would be nice, but I think it would probably conflict with the FingerKeyboard2 keymap, since a compact qwerty only has 12 buttons.
If you don't know how a compact qwerty looks like, take a look at an old mobile phone without touch screen or hardware keyboard and notice that the function of every key carries a number of letters, that you get by pressing various numbers of times. For example; I want to write "C". I press the number 2 three times, and the C appears.
I think it would be possible for someone to make a compact qwerty, since there is one in the new Touch Pro 2's and Diamond 2's. Also, if you look at the Xperia default dialer (or any dialer for that matter), there are 3 to 4 letters on every key - there's your ready made compact qwerty. Of course I don't know anything about making this myself, I'm just looking at the posibilities of someone making it.
Regards
/Felix
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thats great ring-bearer....i ll give it a shot
btw from where u got that cool battery icon on top?
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Hope you like it! I do think it has made a moderate difference in ease of text entry.
The great set of icons is from one of gtrabs' collections. I think it's the "X Series"
Spanish version?
Thanks, thanks, thanks!!! Finally keyboard that suites me...
p.s. key for ? doesn't work...
c_legaspi said:
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If you mean a keyboard where there are two letters on each key, there is a Touch IT compact qwerty that I believe Itje has made available.
xperiatomaja said:
Spanish version?
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Sure, I can put together a Spanish version.
Adios
thanks for your lovely work.i am having small issue with question mark.dot is working but when i long press question mark does not work.any solution for this.thanks in advance.
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If you mean a keyboard where there are two letters on each key, there is a Touch IT compact qwerty that I believe Itje has made available.
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yes that program is good as well but it makes my au key useless. im using fingerkeyb but i would like to get some bigger keys in portrait mode.
human75 said:
thanks for your lovely work.i am having small issue with question mark.dot is working but when i long press question mark does not work.any solution for this.thanks in advance.
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Good pickup - thanks a lot. I have uploaded a fixed version to the first post:
SoftTouch_MaxKey_0.2
Ah, looks like I was confused about the names - what I meant before was ''Phone Keypad'' and you can get this with EzInput so nevermind
Anyways, is it possible to get swedish? The only difference is that long press on J gets an Å, long press K gets you an Ä and L gets you Ö. That would be great!
this is most amazing keypad out there!
keypad vey responsive!
can i request something?
is it possible to remove the page up down etc.
on "EN" coz' you know in xperia they have some sort of a mouse to scroll
so that there will be more space for a key! very usefull if there will more space to press a single key.
and some character in the third row and so fort have minimal spacing
maybe it can help if you can try to edit this?
but you know this proram works well for me is just maybe you can do
enhance it for x1 users? thank you in advance!!! nice work
jhrenz said:
this is most amazing keypad out there!
keypad vey responsive!
can i request something?
is it possible to remove the page up down etc.
on "EN" coz' you know in xperia they have some sort of a mouse to scroll
so that there will be more space for a key! very usefull if there will more space to press a single key.
and some character in the third row and so fort have minimal spacing
maybe it can help if you can try to edit this?
but you know this proram works well for me is just maybe you can do
enhance it for x1 users? thank you in advance!!! nice work
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Yeah, I can try to do something like that. I also want to work on the placement of the 'enter' and 'backspace' keys because they aren't optimal right now. But the main problem for me was the size of the qwerty keys, and those are now as big as they can get without inventing a whole new layout. But I agree that those directional buttons are not highly needed. I also still want to develop for the other languages people requested, but it may be a couple of months because real life is crazy busy for a while.
I could also try to make a SIP much more tailored to the X1 from the ground up. My C++ skills aren't great though but if anyone wants to PM me the 'dvoraksip.sln' code that comes with the Windows Mobile Version 5.0 SDK, I could probably modify that. I just don't have the SDK or the example code that comes with it. Anyone?
Thnx for the keyboard.. Its just made my XPERIA perfect!
But I have a question.. When I open the keyboard on my phone, the bottom bar dissappears.. Is this something you programmed it to do, to maybe give larger screen above the keyboard, or it something wrong with my config?
This layout isn't very nice. I prefer a normal qwerty layout.
banni89 said:
Thnx for the keyboard.. Its just made my XPERIA perfect!
But I have a question.. When I open the keyboard on my phone, the bottom bar dissappears.. Is this something you programmed it to do, to maybe give larger screen above the keyboard, or it something wrong with my config?
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Hey, thanks for the feedback. To answer your question:
No, I didn't program that feature in. That is a changeable feature of FingerKeyboard. Just go to programs/fingerkeyboard/options then change Portrait from "Hide bar" to "Show bar."
You'll be all set!
Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
mdalacu said:
Hi, is there a keyboard with 5 rows (numbers visible) that you can still accuratly press keys with your fingers? Because my passwords contain both numbers and letters and i have to enter them a lot :-( Thanks.
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I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
Thank you!
Chris Cross said:
I recommend Fingerkeyboard. It is free, highly customizable and does a great job. See my signature for the link. You can create your own layout if you want. I think other users have already made a layout with 5 rows, but if not, you can make your own. It is pretty easy. You can also see my signature for a basic tutorial on editing layouts. You decide what keys you wnat, where you want them, and what characters you want each key to type. If you have questions, you can post them in the Fingerkeyboard 2.1 thread here.
Another good keyboard if you prefer sliding instead of typing is SlideIT by Dasur. It costs $15 and does a great job. You can type (i.e. slide) really fast with it. It also supports many languages. You can view their homepage here.
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
Today i tried TouchPal. it is the BEST keyboard for the HD2 (at least for me).
It is so east to type accurately now.
i agree with Touch Pal i can write extremly fast plus a lower sensitive cab installation is just perfect - at least for me.
Zoomboard from vito
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I ready that fingerkeyboard had problems with the HD2, can you confirm that it works well, and what version are u using?
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one of the reasons that FK had problems with the HD2 is the speed of the capacitive screen. Some people correct that with the lesss sensitive Cab on this site. With FK go to options and delay the two hold times. I've set the left one to 400 instead of 250 and the right one to 250. Now FB works well on the HD2.
Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
I installed TouchPal and thought it was pretty naff compared to the standard HTC keyboard, to be honest. I can type faster and mode accurately using the standard keyboard. In fact, this post was written using it!
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Chriss: can you confirm this and also tell us what the left and right one are for???
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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Sorry guys. I got mixed up. No, I have not tested it on the Leo (I'm still looking into getting one ). I have only read the same reports that you have all mentioned here.
And @kuzibri: what do you mean with "what the left and right one are for"?
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in the options tab there are two response time possibilities, eg left and right one.
I've tried a few of the others now, but still easily prefer the HTC supplied keyboard. I just wish it had the same gesture support as the WM default keyboard.
just another suggestion for a good keyboard for HD2: Cliquick. This also rotates the screen to landscape when pressing the .,123 key in whichever program you're in. You can find it here: http://cliquick.com/
edit: you can also set it to be your default SIP in the option settings.
Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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Anyone happen to try SlideIt (http://www.dasur.co.il/Product/SlideIT/SlideIT.php) on the HD2? If not, anyone feel like trying the demo & letting me know how it works?
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
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Let me throw ShapeWriter into the mix also.
Takes some getting used to but unce you've got it, it's much faster than a regular keypad (imo)
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It's a pitty that this is only in English si I canot use it. BTW, it has great resemblance with Dasur's SlideIT. That one is blazing fast and easy to use (and supports several languages), but its main flaw is that it does not support landcsape. In this orientation it messes up the screen and a soft reset is needed. Otherwise this would be my nr 1 keyboard. Now that is Cliquick.
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yes, I tried it. Its awesome in terms of speed and ease of use, but cannot switch to landscape mode. When you switch to landscape, e.g. in Opera, the screen gets messed up with this keyboard and a soft reset is needed. If I only was to use portrait mode, this would be the keyboard of choice.
Now that has become Cliquick. This even switches Word Mobile to landscape when you press the ",.123" key without using a third party sensor app like Gyrator or ChangeScreen. It comes with a 60 day trial and, if you do not want to buy it therafter, you can still use it for a max of 100 chars a day.
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Sounds like the exact problem I have on my Advantage (the rotation issue). I've been the only one to report it, so I'm forwarding your note here as well.
I'll have to try Cliquick. Is this the one where you have to hit the same key several times to get different letters (like hit ab to get "a" and hit it again to get "b" ? Guess I'll find out.
Glad to hear the SlideIT works well except for the rotation issue, so if they can fix it, I'll be very happy.
I have noticed the latest version of Fingerkeyboard refusing to open when my HD2 (Leo) has come out of standby - can't recall what was running just prior so haven't raised it with the creator yet. I couldn't open another keyboard so had to take the battery out on the two occassions it happened.
A keyboard I have been using of late, as it worked well on my Touch HD is Zoomboard
I have tried both slideit and shapewriter and on the HD2 I much prefer slide it, its mainly due to how it handles the irratic behaviour of the capacitive screen, I mean HTC need to fix up its response, in shapewriter the line drawn with your finger tends to be scribbled everywhere missing letters, to much lesser extent on slidit, the keys are much easier to hit in slideit imo. the finger sliding keyboards are the way to go either way, I can type so much faster with slidit and takes only little parctice to get a real knack of it ... slideIT is fantastic
Am I the only who took a huge step back in terms of the quality of word completion prediction when I upgraded from 1.6 to 2.1? I had used the default keyboard on 1.6 and I'm talking about the default keyboard on 2.1 now. On 1.6, text prediction was brilliant. On 2.1, it's like a joke.
Here are some of the things that used to happen on 1.6:
1) When I hit, say, the letter "T" as the beginning of a new word, the list of suggestions I got looked something like this:
to
today
tomorrow
through
time
So, with the most common words, I could simply type a single letter and pick the word from the suggestion list, in most cases.
2) Recently used words were aggresively brought to the beginning of the suggestion list. For example, if I'm entering a couple of repetitions of a phrase like "parametric equalization" into a list, after typing the first instance in its entirety, on the second instance, when I hit the "P" key, the word "parametric" would be the first item on the suggestion list. After picking that suggestion, as soon as I typed an "E" for the beginning of the second word, "equalization" would be the first item in the suggestion list.
3)There were two rows of suggested words available. (At least, it was an option I could pick.)
After upgrading to 2.1, none of that is true! Here's what now happens with the default keyboard on 2.1:
1) When I hit the letter "T", here is the entire list of suggestions I see:
t
r
f
g
y
Is this a joke? Where are my full word suggestions? Where are the suggestions of the "T-words" that I've just typed in the preceding sentence? These are not "word completion suggestions"! There's no "completion" to speak of here. These are T9 input options. Is someone asleep at the wheel?
2) I no longer see a way of enabling two rows of suggestions to be displayed. Did I do something wrong in order to cause it to be taken away? Was I bad boy?
3) When I set "Spelling correction" to "off", I lose completion suggestions altogether. What? Since when do "spelling correction" and "word completion" mean the same thing?
So, am I missing something? I didn't see many complaints voiced on this forum about these issues. Am I the only one bothered by these?
I know that a common suggestion such complaints is to switch to using another keyboard such as the HTC_IME. I've tried it. That one behaves almost identically to the default 2.1 keyboard, in terms of the issues I explained above. The sole improvement it provides is that it's slightly more inclined to include longer words in the suggestion list than the default, but only after you type the third letter or so. Not the same thing as what I had in 1.6. Not good enough.
And, by the way, in my case, there doesn't seem to be a way of eliminating spelling correction on the HTC_IME keyboard. I turned off all spelling correction options that I could find. When I type "for", I want only words that start with for- to be shown on my suggestion list. Instead, here are the suggestions that I get for "for" with all spelling correction options turned off:
for
got
god
cor
fir
foe
In what universe are those "not" spelling corrections?
Oh and, by the way, thanks for the brilliant idea of wasting the space for one suggestion (the most likely one, actually) by presenting what I have typed myself in the first place. It's not like I could have just hit Space and continued if that were in fact what I meant to type. Which Nobel laureate came up with that one?
Does anyone know of a third-party keyboard that behaves in the way I explained in the "used to" list above? I looked through a few of them, but the details of the behavior to this extent is usually something not covered in the feature lists shown for these or covered in reviews.
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
Then again, sometimes I need to type in Japanese, so using the Japanese IME works for me.
You may want to try swiftkey
I'm finding exactly the same thing. Surely there must be a way of changing this?
I've tried all the options and, like you said, if you turn off spelling correction, everything turns off. Bit pants really.
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I spent a good chunk of my weekend "upgrading" to 2.1 and found this as well. Guney, it's like you're inside my head, although far more polite than I was when I saw the new keyboard!
Will try the above suggestions and see how I go.
It's good to hear that I'm not alone with these complaints.
iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
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Hmmm. If you're talking about the built-in Japanese one, I'd be willing to give that a try if it allows typing in English as well.
shooi said:
I've tried all the options and, like you said, if you turn off spelling correction, everything turns off.
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I'm pretty sure it's a plain and simple bug. I can't understand how it slipped through. It's pretty embarrassing, really. In any case, that's not even the biggest one of my complaints. (That would be the lack of adaptive full-word suggestions.)
zephyrix said:
You may want to try swiftkey
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If you're implying that Swiftkey provides most of the behavior that I've lost, then I'll try that out too. Thank you.
iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
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I've just tried the built-in Japanese keyboard. I can't thank you enough for your suggestion! Like you said, its behavior is exactly the same as the 1.6 default English keyboard. It's actually an improvement over even that one, in one or two respects.
The only drawback I'll have to live with is the need to press the "Symbol" key (the keyboard mode switcher) twice to return from symbols back to alphabetical keys. (There's a third keyboard layout that I need to cycle through, which is obviously specific to Japanese text entry.) Also, the layout of the "numbers and symbols" keyboard is different, but nothing seems to be missing and it's actually arguably better than the original (the number keys are larger). I'm more than willing to live with this when all of my complaints about the 2.1 keyboard is eliminated!
And here are a few additional benefits I got from the Japanese keyboard:
The left and right arrow keys are back, for moving the cursor.
Four lines of suggestions are displayed when I hit even the first letter of a word. (Woo-hoo!) Not only that, but I can also scroll through more suggestions in that four-line space if I swipe up. (This might have been there in 1.6 but, if so, I hadn't gotten into the habit of using it.) This kind of vertical scrolling through suggestions is much more efficient than the horizontal scrolling in the new default keyboard (as well as in Swiftkey) in my opinion. Instead swiping an entire screen width's worth to see only three more words or so, you can swipe up only two line heights' worth and see two new lines of suggestions (about six to eight words, usually).
There's even a key with a smiley as its label which brings up a list of most frequenly used symbol characters in the same form as the suggested word list, saving me two taps when I need to type only a single symbol. Sweet!
I can comfortably recommend this to anyone else who has the same complaints as me about the default 2.1 English keyboard. I consider my problem solved.
I'm all for Swype. I've used it and never wanted to switch back.
guney said:
I've just tried the built-in Japanese keyboard. I can't thank you enough for your suggestion!
I can comfortably recommend this to anyone else who has the same complaints as me about the default 2.1 English keyboard. I consider my problem solved.
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Awesome! Glad to have helped! The only complaint I have about the Japanese keyboard is that four lines of suggestions means it gets in the way of seeing the text box I'm typing in occasionally. It's a good keyboard, I've always found it more accurate than the standard English keyboard as well.
Anyone managed to track down the 1.6 apk of the original keyboard and tried installing that!?
I can't stand the 2.1 keyboard. I've tried loading the Japanese keyboard but I can't find it. How do you get it to load instead of the English keyboard?
gump1376 said:
I can't stand the 2.1 keyboard. I've tried loading the Japanese keyboard but I can't find it. How do you get it to load instead of the English keyboard?
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Go to any text field that you can edit, tap and hold, pick "Japanese keyboard" from the pop-up list. (This doesn't work in some specialized fields like the browser's address field, but the search field of the Market app is one place where it does work.)
iead1 said:
I use the Japanese IME for English, while not ideal, works exactly like the 1.6 English keyboard did, in terms of prediction.
Then again, sometimes I need to type in Japanese, so using the Japanese IME works for me.
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thanks for the tip iead1
if you havent tried the HTC_ime mod i suggest you give it a chance. i have been using that since before my X10 and i love it. i have far less prediction problems. also if its any advantage: i find it way faster to type with the compact qwerty keyboard when i type in portrait.
jerkysans said:
I'm all for Swype. I've used it and never wanted to switch back.
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Me too. Toggle between HTC keyboard & Swype.