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Help! Storage Card suddenly not showing - dead?
Has anyone had problems with the Storage Card completely dying? I cannot read my 1GB miniSD card on my Wizard device at all any more. It started being weird yesterday but after a reset I was able to access the data, but today it is totally gone.
A 16MB one works fine. :? These cards don't generally die that easily do they?
Could this be a driver issue or something else so I can get my data back? I have tried many resets both with and without the card in place.
I've the same problem (I guess) with my card. I'm not able to read my card on the vario. When i inserted my SD card in a PC he cant read the card. When i start my PC with the card insered system hangs on loading windows.
When I restart my phone with the SD card inserted WIFI wont go on, do you have th same problem CJSnet ?
This looks like the SD disk is something like an (unreadable?) bootdisk ?
I had the same problem with a SanDisk 1GB card recently. I sent it back to the supplier and they replaced it.
Before my "Mini S" I had a "2i" and it was well known that it would "eat" cards. On that forum they compiled a list of "never eaten" cards and recommended staying away from anything not on the list.
I suspect the Wizard may have a similar problem.
i've also got a problem with my miniSD, sometimes it doesn't recognise the card. But when i remove it and re-insert a few times it does work again.
A common problem with the SD-cards is that their contacts are dirty, cleaning sometimes helps.
Thanks mmm_ok, can you provide a link to that list of 'never eaten' :lol: cards please?
Mine is an unbranded type from Viking, so that could be the reason.
zawoot, I had no problems with WiFi and the card inserted.
Have now solved it. When I loaded the card on a PC and ran chkdsk, some of the files were corrupt (plus the boot partition I expect). I copied the salvagable files to the PC, formatted the miniSD which took about an hour (!), and now the PPC can read it again. Now I just copy back the files from the PC, and the lost ones from a recent backup.
What a pain in the backside. HTC not fixing the 'eating cards' bug has cost me 3 hours of my life. What price technology!
SD card problem
I'm facing the same problem. The last thing I tried was format the SD Card
using Pocket Mechanic "Logical Format" - "do not use quick format", format it
two times and just that. Also, as a test, I'm not using the full SD Card
capacity, my SD has 1 G and at this time I'm using 700M and since 10 days ago
everythiong is fine. As an additional test I leaved the battery goes to a
very low level and reseted the device to see it it corrupt the data .. but
is still ok.
My 2GB Adata myflash card has done this. I'm so mad, it has to go all the way back to china for repair.
This is really wierd behaviour for a phone. HTC in all its shoddy glory.
CJSnet said:
Have now solved it. When I loaded the card on a PC and ran chkdsk, some of the files were corrupt (plus the boot partition I expect). I copied the salvagable files to the PC, formatted the miniSD which took about an hour (!), and now the PPC can read it again. Now I just copy back the files from the PC, and the lost ones from a recent backup.
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SO is there any other issues after you did the format?
I have an ATP 1Gb MiniSD and sometimes my MDA just said that it can't execute an application (that's installed to the miniSD card) because it was "usigned". When I run Resco Explorer, I noticed that the card is NO LONGER shown (???). So I took out the card, re-inserted it and it's now shown in Resco Explorer as "Storage Card2" ! So of course none of the program works since the links (in registry especially), pointed to "Storage Card", not the one that ends with 2. So my solution (for now) is to just shutdown the device, wait for a few minutes, then turn it on again.
I have had 2 cards from mobymemory 1gb and now 2gb - not one problem run well. Can highly recommend mobymemory the use single density cards or something that many of the other manufactures don't use. my advice stay away from cheap cards.
I used a backup utility my card died, and windows could not open it, I reformatted on my digital cam and it works again. It's the software loaded on it.
My MiniSD card popped out of its slot spontaneously last night. Ever since my Qtek 9100 would not recognise it any longer. It still worked on my card-reader attached to my PC. In the end I decided to format the card (not quick format) and now my Wizard recognises the storage card again. Losing all my downloaded attachments during the process. FYI It is a SanDisk 1GB MiniSD card.
sandisk 1g card is almost 2-yrs old and was first for typhoon and now serves faraday and wizard and just started acting wierd on wizard. every so often device does not read card upon waking. pulling it out and reinserting fixes it but i've moved programs to device. poo!!!
Storage Card seemed dead
I had a simuliar problem with my original qtek 1.6 rom until I upgraded to the latest imate 2.17.
Having worked 5-10 minutes with wi-fi, the storage card became invisible and unaccessible. To make it visible once again it was necessary to soft reset the device.
This and some other problems disappeared once I upgraded to 2.17.
Hope this help
Hi guys... I have the worst problem since I bought this brilliant device: I was playing with a game (installed on the mini SD), and when I tried to save it told me I had not enough storage space. Puzzled, I ended the game and went back to the normal pda functions...just to find out my SD is not recognized anymore. Zero, nada. Disappeared. Tried to get it out and in again (a million times), and I don't even get the sound I used to get. I tried fitting the minisd to the sd adapter and put it in an old zire: the card works!Everything is there. But the wizard won't recognize it anymore. Tried soft reset and it didn't help... Not so keen on hard resetting unless it is the only option but...I'm dazed...It doesn't see it anymore.I admit I was playing the game at 240 mhhz (overclocked) but I had played it a million times already and everything was smooth... PLEASE HELP!
same here im having this problem. it's annoying as hell!
same here im having this problem. it's annoying as hell!
I have had the problem of the memory card seemingly disappearing.
On checking closer, I noticed I had 'Storage Card' and 'Storage Card2'
Storage Card had one file on it and everything else was still on Storage Card2.
By deleting Storage Card abd soft reset, all was restored.
This has happened a couple of time.
If this happens to you, make sure you delete the right one.
Storage card
I've never unlocked the extended rom (Storage_card_2), so i have just Storage Card, a 1 Gig Sandisk mini SD. Still, it dissapears a couple of times a day, and i must soft reset my wizard to appear again. Very, very frustrating
Missing data
Something similar has happened to mine as well....
I turned my PDA on and accessed the storage card just like I do on any other day, only to find that all of the files had disappeared!! Everything had gone - but when I went into the memory setting, where it tells you how much space is used on the card it is still showing up as being half full i.e. the data is still there but not showing up on explorer!!
What is this all about??!! It has never happened to me before!!
Just wish I could offer an explanation on how to fix this...
You can probably read those files in Windows. This memory card disappearing problem seems to occur frequently with Wizard. Lookslike some program keeps corrupting the memory card.
Format the card in Windows and put it back in your phone, it will most likely work.
Format the card in Windows and put it back in your phone, it will most likely work.
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If you format the card, surely it will wipe everything that was on there in the first place..?!
There must be a way of retrieving those missing files somehow without resorting to formatting...
The weird thing is, today I transferred a single file from my desktop to the Sd card (whilst in my XDA) and suddenly some of the missing files appeared...?!
Now to find the rest of them....
I would love to have storage card 2 or something like that, but all I get is...the same behaviour I'd get if NO sd was in. I don't want to hard reset UNLESS somebody can confirm me this works...I am so desperate, it kinda looks like the sd reader is dead...all of a sudden! Please guys help...
I hard resetted and still it doesn't work...I'll take it to a shop to repair...I am totally disappointed!
I had this, the card came back after I just placed it in a card reader, browsed it on a pc, then replaced it in the phone.
dukeV said:
I had this, the card came back after I just placed it in a card reader, browsed it on a pc, then replaced it in the phone.
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ditto, it works if i do that too.
i think i found a fix, i formatted my card as FAT.
and so far it hasn't crapped out on my since.
see if it works for u guys too.
dukeV said:
I had this, the card came back after I just placed it in a card reader, browsed it on a pc, then replaced it in the phone.
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ditto, it works if i do that too.
i think i found a fix, i formatted my card as FAT.
and so far it hasn't crapped out on my since.
see if it works for u guys too.
What is do
It happens to me too - if I go into file explorer, I see storage_card and storage_card_2. The contents of storage_card_2 are exactly those of my SD. If I delete storage_card, remove and re-insert my SD, storage_card_2 disappears and storage_card is as it should be...
It was an sd problem...as soon as I have formatted it started to work again...
hope that sorts it for you guys if you have this annoying problem...
Hi,
I am having a weird problem and that is any file that I copy on the memory card goes missing and I can not see it. Files are on the card though since checking the memory card size is giving the approximate correct used space. Is there anyone else having the similar issue? I tried even a hard reset but it didn't help. by the way I am running TouchFlo v14 for the wing.
Also is anyone know how to format a memory card, I couldn't find it anywhere.
thanks,
The disappearing storage cards is a common thing.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=294324&highlight=disappearing+sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=304346&highlight=disappearing+sd
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=289980&highlight=corrupt+SD
As far as formatting the card, I use a program called CNETX flash format which installs on the phone.
Missing 1go Kingston card
I carefully followed all of the above instructions for the pagefile change. It appears to work///got the dos window etc. but upon restart, my storage card with all the programs has disappeared...nowhere to be found "not installed"!
What did I do wrong please??? have I somehow destroyed the card? Is the disappearing act related to this tweak or simply coincidental. I would really appreciate some feedback here!
wow at first i thought that this is only a problem for a few but it seems many suffer from it! i think i am going to use the last link for future updates on this issue. i just formatted my device to see what will happen...
which instructions did you use shepperd?
actually i lost all the pictures and music on my card a couple times. the first time i just recreated the my pictures and my music folder on my storage card and it all came back. the second time this didn't work and i ended up having to bring the microsd card to my friends dorm who had a card reader in his laptop and i used a freeware undelete utility to recover all the missing files.
this happened to me both times while reflashing the phone so from now on i've removed the microsd card while flashing the phone and i've had no problems since.
applecarriage said:
actually i lost all the pictures and music on my card a couple times. the first time i just recreated the my pictures and my music folder on my storage card and it all came back. the second time this didn't work and i ended up having to bring the microsd card to my friends dorm who had a card reader in his laptop and i used a freeware undelete utility to recover all the missing files.
this happened to me both times while reflashing the phone so from now on i've removed the microsd card while flashing the phone and i've had no problems since.
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thanks. i think this is useful information. by the way can i ask you the name of the software you used in your friends laptop?
thank you!
Never mind. I think any undelete program should work...
Weirdest problem today on my month-old Touch HD.
I have a 16GB microSD card with about 2GB free. The camera is set to Photo mode (single shot) Fine. But after 18 snaps I couldn't take any more pics - the system shows the message:
Unable to capture photo. Disk full.
But there's 2GB of free space on the storage card, so this error is false.
Changing the storage destination to Main Memory resolves the immediate problem so I can at least take pics.
Deleting the 18 JPGs and one mp4 video in the DCIM folder on the storage card allowed me to take pics again. Irritating bug.
Anyone else come across this?
Had the same problem when my 8GB card was almost half full....would only allow me to take a few pics. I then wanted to see what happens when I fill the card up even more.....after going beyond 50% card space, all of a sudden remaining pics would show something like 7000+. Altough your problem appears to bit slightly different....
AFW said:
Weirdest problem today on my month-old Touch HD.
I have a 16GB microSD card with about 2GB free. The camera is set to Photo mode (single shot) Fine. But after 18 snaps I couldn't take any more pics - the system shows the message:
Unable to capture photo. Disk full.
But there's 2GB of free space on the storage card, so this error is false.
Changing the storage destination to Main Memory resolves the immediate problem so I can at least take pics.
Deleting the 18 JPGs and one mp4 video in the DCIM folder on the storage card allowed me to take pics again. Irritating bug.
Anyone else come across this?
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Got same with 3.5gb left on a 16gb card but not been unable to capture photo yet. One minute it tells me I've got space for 5676, another time it will be 646 and sometimes goes down to 94. Not sure what the problem is but I don't want to be let down by it as I use it for work. I wonder if a good old soft reset would reset the card reading or removing and reinserting the card. That's what I will try if I get stuck anyway.
the same problem occured with my device, it said, that I can take only 3 pics, in full quality, while storage card was almost empty. But after that, I´ve deleted one 800MB file (mp4 movie) and now I can take more than 1400 pics. Anyone experienced something like this? Might be something with file system...
A fix....I think?!
Hi guys, this is my first post on XDA so go easy on me.
I ALSO had this problem where suddenly I had a '0' count on photos left to take, yet 4GB free on the same 8GB card.
This is how I fixed it:
1. Connect the HD to the computer and select 'Disk Drive' rather than 'Activesync'.
2. Defragment the SDCard using the command 'defrag e:' or whatever letter your card has connected as.
When the defrag is done disconnect and try to take photos again.
My 'photos remaining' count went from 0 to 6700 after this!
While this appears to be a way of fixing it, its HTC that need to address this problem with a patch.
Theres likely to be defrag programs for WinMob as well that could do the trick.
Matt
entityuk said:
Hi guys, this is my first post on XDA so go easy on me.
I ALSO had this problem where suddenly I had a '0' count on photos left to take, yet 4GB free on the same 8GB card.
This is how I fixed it:
1. Connect the HD to the computer and select 'Disk Drive' rather than 'Activesync'.
2. Defragment the SDCard using the command 'defrag e:' or whatever letter your card has connected as.
When the defrag is done disconnect and try to take photos again.
My 'photos remaining' count went from 0 to 6700 after this!
While this appears to be a way of fixing it, its HTC that need to address this problem with a patch.
Theres likely to be defrag programs for WinMob as well that could do the trick.
Matt
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Not bad for a first post!
Welcome to the addiction!!
Further to my last post...
According to this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433818 Defragging your MicroSD is a bad idea.
I certainly didn't experience any issues, it ran my storage card based Sat Nav software fine.
If your concerned that a defrag will damage your card (I certainly have no concerns) then move the contents of your card to the computer, format the SD Card and move the files back again and don't worry about the defrag.
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Worst case scenario is moving the contents of your card to the computer, formatting SD Card and moving the files back over again....
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well i think this is pointless copying all the files to ur PC, deleting any SD crap and then copy them back to the card will actually defrag them (i think)..
Cause it will copy one file at a time
Problem is with one of the files being corrupted, resulting in false oversize file.
Solution to this is either completely formatting SD card, or using scandisk in windows.
Hello.
After trying the android booting, for 5-6'th time (all working), now the phone can't see the SD card. I thought it was only on the phone, but when i insert the card, in adapter and connect to pc, then NOTHING happens. Like if the card wasn't there.. Hmm, any clue? Usually I just formatted. But now, I can't format a SD card which "isn't there."
Please.
any one??? :S
mooooooa said:
Hello.
After trying the android booting, for 5-6'th time (all working), now the phone can't see the SD card. I thought it was only on the phone, but when i insert the card, in adapter and connect to pc, then NOTHING happens. Like if the card wasn't there.. Hmm, any clue? Usually I just formatted. But now, I can't format a SD card which "isn't there."
Please.
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Sounds like your sd card maybe corrupt, they can die for no apparent reason, its happen to me twice in about 4yrs, tho i always buy from CEX they offer a 1yr warranty & just replace it if its within that time.
There's been a few threads about this;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=712281
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646731
Which brand?
mooooooa said:
Hello.
After trying the android booting, for 5-6'th time (all working), now the phone can't see the SD card. I thought it was only on the phone, but when i insert the card, in adapter and connect to pc, then NOTHING happens. Like if the card wasn't there.. Hmm, any clue? Usually I just formatted. But now, I can't format a SD card which "isn't there."
Please.
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What is the brand of the memory card?
hey dude,i got the same problem as yours few days ago..cant do much abt it,i just buy a new one..some says the htc that makes the sd card problem
Hi,
My 8 GB sd card lags when i`m scrolling in the file manager.
In addition, the sd card drains the HD2 battery. I loose 35% in 6 hours in flight mode, but only 4% when not in flight mode without the sd card... ( this also yields for the original sandisk 2 GB sd card that was supplied with the phone).
Anyone experienced the same issue?
Is this hardware or software related, and can i fix this myself?
Error check your microSD card using your computer then switch your phone off, put the card back in it and switch your phone back on. The phone will need to index your music/video files etc so go to the relevant tabs and let it do its stuff. See how that helps.
mooooooa said:
Hello.
After trying the android booting, for 5-6'th time (all working), now the phone can't see the SD card. I thought it was only on the phone, but when i insert the card, in adapter and connect to pc, then NOTHING happens. Like if the card wasn't there.. Hmm, any clue? Usually I just formatted. But now, I can't format a SD card which "isn't there."
Please.
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i got a new HD2 and it came with a MicroSD card. I put a couple of cooked ROMs on it and everything was fine for about a week and then the card jsut stopped working. I didnot use it on any other phone or on my PC and it just died.
I own an HTC Hero as well and i put the card in it but it wouldnt recognize it. It has never happened to me before. Never has a card died on me.
I think its a problem with the way the HD2 accesses the SDcard. I wouldnt know specifics but this is the first phone that fried my SD card.
Hey guys, I had the same issue. The SD card stopped working and cannot be formatted now via computer.
My experience with Windows Mobile is that the SD/CF driver is the weakest link. The problem seems to be simultaneous accesses drive it bonkers. I've had the disappearing card problem on other PDAs but usually removing it, doing a reboot with it out, and then inserting it after the reboot is complete will fix it. If it doesn't show up immediately DON'T do anything for a while, it could be doing a CHKDSK on the card, and if you mess with it it will screw it up worse.
Once it shows up what I would recommend is hooking up via USB in CF Disk mode (not Activesync) and doing a format on the drive from Windows.
Last night I got a new 32gb Class 4 MicroSD from China (unnamed) and stuck it in, worked fine, so I backed up all my data to my 'puter off the T-Mobile Class 2 16gb and changed to the new 32gb SD. I started the copy and after a while went to bed.
This morning I got up and it had died during the copy. It was giving me an error on the new MicroSD. It had copied about 75% but was asking to continue or skip. I ended up having to cancel it because it appeared full but it was not. After a reboot I found a ton of FILEXXX.CHK files which indicated it was doing a chkdsk.
Looking at it with SoftWinter.com's Storage Tools the disk was formatted with 512 byte cluster size, way too small for such a large disk, so it was not really out of space just out of cluster nodes. If you have lots of files (I had 10,000) each takes up at least one, even if the file is only 5 bytes. So I reformatted it from the 'puter to 32k cluster size and started the copy over. Seems to be working better now.
Please note that using larger cluster size also will help performance when writing and reading large files as it has to do less directory accesses. Small cluster size is good if you have a lot of small files as it doesn't waste as much space. You lose on average 1/2 the cluster size for each file, as the last node is almost never full.
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My experience with Windows Mobile is that the SD/CF driver is the weakest link. The problem seems to be simultaneous accesses drive it bonkers. I've had the disappearing card problem on other PDAs but usually removing it, doing a reboot with it out, and then inserting it after the reboot is complete will fix it. If it doesn't show up immediately DON'T do anything for a while, it could be doing a CHKDSK on the card, and if you mess with it it will screw it up worse.
Once it shows up what I would recommend is hooking up via USB in CF Disk mode (not Activesync) and doing a format on the drive from Windows.
Last night I got a new 32gb Class 4 MicroSD from China (unnamed) and stuck it in, worked fine, so I backed up all my data to my 'puter off the T-Mobile Class 2 16gb and changed to the new 32gb SD. I started the copy and after a while went to bed.
This morning I got up and it had died during the copy. It was giving me an error on the new MicroSD. It had copied about 75% but was asking to continue or skip. I ended up having to cancel it because it appeared full but it was not. After a reboot I found a ton of FILEXXX.CHK files which indicated it was doing a chkdsk.
Looking at it with SoftWinter.com's Storage Tools the disk was formatted with 512 byte cluster size, way too small for such a large disk, so it was not really out of space just out of cluster nodes. If you have lots of files (I had 10,000) each takes up at least one, even if the file is only 5 bytes. So I reformatted it from the 'puter to 32k cluster size and started the copy over. Seems to be working better now.
Please note that using larger cluster size also will help performance when writing and reading large files as it has to do less directory accesses. Small cluster size is good if you have a lot of small files as it doesn't waste as much space. You lose on average 1/2 the cluster size for each file, as the last node is almost never full.
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Hey
i hope for your sake im wrong, but as far as ive been able to find out in my own searching, only san disk has released a 32gb micro sd & its only class 2.
there has been a lot of talk of fake 32gb micro sd's from china, most are actually 4gb re-programed to read as 32gb on your phone or pc, but when you start to fill them with files more than their actual capacity they will only overwrite prev' files & become corrupt.
i actually pick up 1 (32gb) last weekend from a local store, tried to copy the contents of my 16gb, 7gb copied then an error occurred, 2nd attempt 9gb copied but files unreadable by phone or pc, fortunately i always buy from this store & they refunded (£50), straight away, still have 2 16gb cards ive had for about 9mnths with no probs.
there is another longer thread over in the Q&A section, you guys may find some useful feed back over there: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=646731
Well, the one I got says SanDisk and I have done a full format and surface analysis, it checks out, but I am having trouble writing to it. Not sure what is up with it right now. I knew it was a fake but I thought it was a real fake, not a piece of junk. I hope you are wrong.
I´ve got problems too. I have two SanDisk 16 GB microSDHC cards and both of them are giving similar problems.
I´ve got my HD2 a few days ago and initially I used my old 16 GB card I bought with the X1 (then used with my TP2 and latest the HD2). Everything was working fine initially but then the problems arose. Now I have those problems:
1. Audio Manager has problems reading my music library. iPlay can read it though. Windows Media Player takes a long time building my music library but manages to do that eventually.
2. HTC Album can read my albums sometimes - sometimes not.
3. Resco Photo Manager can read the albums but sometimes it takes a long time to do it.
4. The computer can access the card without any problems after formatting and it seems not to be any problems reading or writing files to it. Installations of cabs stored on the memory card works.
5. Total Commander can access the card without any problems but takes slightly longer time than before to show all folders.
6. Running chkdsk in Windows gives the result of a perfectly working card.
7. The phone is draining battery in an abnormal way with the card inserted.
8. Flashing ROMs from the card worked initially but not any longer. Now it shows the threecolor bootloader screen instead.
The interesting thing is the fact both of my 16 GB cards has the exactly the same symptoms. I will try them in my X1, TP2 and Vivaz later to check out their behaviour.
When I inserts my old 8 GB card (everything made by SanDisk) everything works without any problems. Flashing ROMs work normally etc.
I´m running the Omega XT 3.0 and are using HardSPL3. The 16 GB card has worked perfectly initially with this ROM and HSPL so I don´t think they are related.
The whole thing seems to indicate some kind of "incompatibility" between the phone and the 16 GB cards. It´s like it is unable to handle that size of card correctly. It seems like it "trashes" the file system. My older 16 GB card started to behave badly which caused me to buy a replacement and now that replacement has the exactly the same behaviour.
My 8 GB card is an "ultra" SanDisk card. The troublesome cards are Class 2 cards. I began to have the impression the problem is some kind of issue with Class 2 - because the cards itself seems to be working after formatting.
I have formatted them with either Panasonic SDFormatter and the Format SD application on the phone. Both options gives the same result.