How can i disable GPS? - P6500 General

How can i disable GPS? - P6500 General

My company are considering tracking it's staff using the GPS on our Sednas. I was wondering if there is a way to disable the GPS, i can't find anything in the menu's or Comm manager. Any info would be appreciated.
Cheers

I once worked at an organisation who were going to do much the same thing, but, unfortunately the gps is only one method, the other is by the SIM card as well so you are stuck either way. The GPS needs software to operate, but the other method just utilises the radio, switching that off means you can't make any calls!
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Joh

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Hey guys, XV6900 newb here trying to enable GPS...

I have been reading around and talking to friends about the Touch phone, and could use a little more assistance on enabling the GPS in my phone. Can someone please point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Robbie

have you upgraded to windows mobile 6.1??
if so, then go to start > settings > Phone > Services tab > make sure location setting is highlighted, click get settings >then make sure it is set to on.
that will make sure that applications are allowed to use your gps signal.
then once you have done that,
open your gps, if you use google maps you have to click menu, use gps.

I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.

jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom. My question is, does gps use data? Is the gps a real gps that connects to satellites or is it some pseudo gps that approximates my location by triangulating distances between my phone and the nearest couple cell towers? I don't have a data plan and don't want an unpleasant suprise on my next bill.
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Yes, the Vogue has a real GPS antena. If you read through the forums you'll find verizon users have to do a bit of tweaking to get it working.
It can be confusing, because our phones also support "agps". This stands for assisted gps. AGPS uses cell phone tower triangulation to get a position.
GPS has inherent errors, in the aviation world there is a system called diffrential GPS. This uses a ground based system to correct the time diffrential error in the sattelites for greater accuracy. Without dgps you cannot use the gps inputs for a precision approach, only enroute, terminal and overlay. We use other systems such as vor/dme. This uses ground based "towers" to get a position using radial and distance information. This is very similiar to what agps does.

to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.

codybear said:
to answer the question does it use data?
the answer is yes.
it has to have a data connection in order to receive the gps data.
atleast thats my understanding, as a data connection does start and maintain during my gps sessions.
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No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.

thanks method man for correcting me.
i didn't think about it that way. haha.

Also a Newbie
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou

How to get GPS to work
acidreflux1 said:
I was wondering whether there was an app that I would need to install on my xv6900 to get the GPS working or do i need an external device like the TomTom Go series to get the GPS up and running.
Any help is much appreciated.
Thankyou
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The reason it dont work is because GPS tries to connect one way, i belive its phone as modem. and when you browse the internet, it tries to connect as Sprint PCS.
now i might be wrong in that, but just lisen.
in order to fix it you need to do a registry change. get a free program to edit the registry. like PHM RegEdit.
got it downloaded? installed? good. lets move on.
open it up
click on My Device
+HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE
+Comm
+ConnMgr
+Providers
+{7C4B7A38-somethingsomethingsomething}
+Phone as Modem.
go into that setting, make sure that the key AlwaysOn is set to 0
THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART
go down a setting from phone as modem to
+SprintPCS
the key inside doesnt have to be set to Always On, but you can enable it if you want.
now close it up. count to 20 and do a restart on the phone
next time you try to run any GPS app it should work. use GoogleMaps though.
also while you are in here you can go into ConnectionSharing. a key above ConnMgr. and make it so you can use your phone as a modem for your laptop. the option was removed in the 6.1 update. let me know if you wish to know how.

6.1 ROM? and GPS
jrb_82 said:
I have upgraded to the official verizion 6.1 rom.
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I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.

jimonfly said:
I called Verizon regarding the WM 6.1 upgrade and they told me to go to Microsoft's website and download it. Microsoft says go to the carrier's website. I'm confused. I'm using a Verizon XV6900 running Windows Mobile 6 Professional. Are we talking the same thing? Is there a newer version (6.1) than 6 Professional? If so, where can I get it?
Also, I've read about enabling the internal GPS antenna, which appeals to me, but there is so much info with different instructions, talking about Sprint and Alltel, radios, etc. Is there a good (read: easy) set of instructions for this? Also, a list of the possible problems encountered (function, data loss, etc.)? I don't want to be a pain in the rear, but this is not my specialty. But I could really use the GPS capability with my work (real estate) w/o needing an exterior unit. I currently use a DeLorme bluetooth unit, but its a pain.
Thanks in advance, Jim.
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Here is the link to the offical WM6.1 ROM
http://www.pcdphones.com/phone_downloads.aspx?bid=95&cid=1&mid=302&carrier=Verizon Wireless
1. sync your phone with Outlook. You will loose everything on your phone when you flash the new ROM. Files on your memory card will be safe.
2. Unlock your phone with 2.31 & refer to the links below.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=20370
http://www.atwistedweb.com/xv6900/index.html
3. connect your phone to your computer via activesync & run the ROM file you download. Simply follow the instructions.
4. Your phone will hard reset once the flash is complete. You will have to align the screen & such. The very last screen will ask you to tap the screen to begin using your device. You have to be ready to soft reset your phone as soon as you tap the screen. DO NOT LET THE CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN OR YOU WILL BE SCREWED FOR SURE.
5.Settings--->Phone--->Services Tab select location settings & then hit the get settings button. Make sure Location On is selected.
6. Download the Holus GPS viewer & install.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=434408&highlight=holux+gps+viewer
post #3
7. Once the GPS viewer open hit the scan button. This will tell you what port & at what baud you GPS is at. It should be com 4 @ 4800.
8. Hit the open GPS button & hopefully you will get a lock.

phone keeps scanning for satellites
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?

If you are using Holux GPS viewer and you see red dots then be happy your GPS is working. Usually first lock takes longer. try it on an open place hopefully you will get a lock. The red dots you see on Holux are the satellites that your GPS is seeing, Once it gets a lock you will see blue dots and that's a fix. If it continues to flash red dots, I would try closing and opening port once, that wud restart the GPS.
Once you get a lock, use any 3rd party software like Garmin Mobile XT or Tomtom Navigator 7 if you don't have a data plan. If you have a dataplan then you can use goolemaps too.
Hope it helps..
bwolsen said:
Is this normal? The GPS program ran and continues to search for satellites. Its alomst like it can't find any. I ran it just the way you listed. Anything else I can try?
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MethodMan said:
No it shouldn't. The data connection you're seeing is probably initiated by the application that needs the internet for transferring maps like Google maps or MS Live search.
If you load up any independent GPS app that uses locally stored maps like TomTom or Garmin, then it shouldn't initiate any data connections.
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No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.

Can't get a lock
I just followed all the steps and installed GPS viewer and could not get a lock. I used the Verizon MR1 rom. Since that did not work I tried installing Valhalla GPS Server to see if that would help. No luck. Any Ideas?

mfpreach said:
No that isn't true at all,
I have both Tomtom and Igo with map files on the sd card. The phone needs the internet to get the agps information otherwise the GPS programs can't get a lock. It doesn't use much adata at all as I was roaming in the states (from canada) for around 10 days , I used the gps everyday and was only charged under $3 for the whole 10 days.
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I have data blocked on my phone and the GPS worked fine up until about a month ago. Whatever Verizon did blocked my GPS and I have not been able to get is working since. I can still run GPS viewer and see satellites but I can't get a fix on them.

I have everything working now. Thanks.

Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim

jimonfly said:
Just so I have it straight...
When I unlock the phone with 2.31, do I let customizations run? The ppcgeeks thread doesn't specify, but the atwistedweb thread says let them run. What does 2.31 do? Just unlock the phone so I can install the next ROM? Also, the ppc post talks about disabling USB while the other does not. Is there a preference?
When I install the new WM6.1 ROM, the atwistedweb post says to install it from the SD card, while the this thread says via USB. Once again, any preference?
I understand not to let the customizations run for this ROM and by putting the stylus in the bottom hole it resets the machine. After it comes up again, will the phone be (should be) upgraded and ready to use?
Lastly, if my phone gets "bricked" (I guess that means it turns into a battery powered paperweight), you guy can help me out, right?
Man, all of this just to get GPS and Verizon service. Still nervous! And Verizon won't shut my service off or stop tech support?
Thanks again. Trying to get all the info up front so I don't have to later. Jim
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Make sure you have backed up everything. First you need to unlock with the .40 unlocker. Then flash to the sprint pre-GPS ROM (This will downgrade your radio which is said to be dangerous but I have never heard of anyone hurting their phone while doing it correctly. This will also require you to call Verizon and get a new A-key. If they ask you what happened just tell them that you had to hard reset your device because of a bad program. Go through all of their steps and it will all get fixed. You have to call Verizon because you wont be able to make calls.) DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! You'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). As soon as you see that pop up stick your stylus in the reset hole. Then unlock with the 2.31 unlocker. After you use this unlocker you wont have to unlock again. Ok now you flash back to the Verizon MR1 ROM. DO NOT LET CUSTOMIZATIONS RUN! Once again you'll know they're about to run beacuse there will be a pop up saying they're going to run in 3 seconds (or something like that). Now after you do this your GPS should be working but I was never able to get it to work with the Verizon MR1 ROM. So I recommend using NSFFAN's 6.5 ROM. Now when I unlock and flash ROM's I don't disable the USB thing your talking about. I also flash everything through my computer (USB) and not through the SD card. There is a small chance you can brick your phone but if you do everything carefully and correctly it's a very very small chance. Just make sure you are doing everything right before moving on to each next step. If a phone is bricked I don't think it can be recovered but i'm not 100% sure. Lots of times when there are problems though it's not a bricked phone and just a glitch so if you have anything that doesn't seem right just come on here and ask for help. Verizon won't do anything with your service except fix your phone like I said earlier unless you tell them what your actually doing. I don't know what happens then and I don't want to find out.. What they don't know won't hurt them Feel free to PM me if you have any questions or need any help.

Two Questions here, please help

ok i asked this in thread before
1. how can i make it so callers names are displayed when they call me, im talking about callers that are not on my contact list, my previous phone displayed name of callers that werent stored in my contacts, that exactly what i want
2. i have setup garmin mobile gps, everything functions fine, but i dont seem to get satellite signals, im guessing the problem is with how i have the settings connected, in external gps its in port com4..is this correct? or do i need to change it
my quickgps is also updated so that shouldnt be a problem
can some one help me what settings i need to change to recieve satelite signals
thank you

1) If your phone does not have the name of the caller, then it won't display. You can only display callers names if the phone number is in your contact list. I don't know how your previous phone would have been able to show the callers name, for it's impossible.
2) Is google maps working properly? That is to make sure that your GPS on itself works. If so, I guess that your settings inside garmin should somehow be set to "internal GPS" (I can do that in TomTom). Unless you're using an external GPS dongle ofc.

Angelusz said:
1) If your phone does not have the name of the caller, then it won't display. You can only display callers names if the phone number is in your contact list. I don't know how your previous phone would have been able to show the callers name, for it's impossible.
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it is very possible, i had most of my phones in the past show caller names, without being contacts
2. google maps work fine, gps worked fine in there also
just garmin cant seem to find signals when i open up garmin app,, weird that its garmin im using in google maps as gps, i think it worked in there

lol how is that possible, don't see any logic in that. the only logic i see is if the contact exist in either the phone or sim.

well any help with the gps please?
in garmin settings i have selected com4, same thing in external gps settings
but maybe i need to change or apply more settings? please help
any one who has garmin on their x1, can you please me tell me what settings you have, how your getting the signals
thank you

any help please?

Well, even if I have not installed Garmin in my xperia, I remember reading something about a problem like this, can't remember if it was garmin specific, but, it regarded the way xperia handles both of the gps functionalities it uses, Agps (assisted gps), uses the gsm radio towers to get a fix of your aproximate position much faster than the standard gps, then the standard gps can calculate with more accurancy -albeit slower- some time later, we're talkin about several minutes here from a "cold" start, any kind of gps applications shoudl work in this way, but not many have adapted yet.
Enough said, there should be a system application to exclude the Agps -that sometimes confuses some gps applications-, in this way you might correct your problem, I think that this utility comes only with the new roms.
Sorry if I can't remember the exact name, but if you search the xperia sub-forum with the gps word, you will find it.
Good luck

i was also just about to refute the names being displayed without being in the contact list but i had a quick look and in canada its a service offered by "rogers" (which i notice gritikal has a logo for) it appears to normally be a paid for service and not all phones will support it. (the iphone doesnt either) basically they act like an intermidary and when a call is made its routed through them and if the details are known they will then transmit the caller name instead of the phone number. if its not workin on the xperia already then i would imagine its not supported, its something that should automatically come up. maybe Rogers would know more...

anothadave said:
i was also just about to refute the names being displayed without being in the contact list but i had a quick look and in canada its a service offered by "rogers" (which i notice gritikal has a logo for) it appears to normally be a paid for service and not all phones will support it. (the iphone doesnt either) basically they act like an intermidary and when a call is made its routed through them and if the details are known they will then transmit the caller name instead of the phone number. if its not workin on the xperia already then i would imagine its not supported, its something that should automatically come up. maybe Rogers would know more...
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a detailed explantion but correct
i think its could be that phone doesnt supportit, xperia is brand new smartphone i expected it to be little friendly towards this features, but your right i should contact rogers. thank you

kecido said:
Well, even if I have not installed Garmin in my xperia, I remember reading something about a problem like this, can't remember if it was garmin specific, but, it regarded the way xperia handles both of the gps functionalities it uses, Agps (assisted gps), uses the gsm radio towers to get a fix of your aproximate position much faster than the standard gps, then the standard gps can calculate with more accurancy -albeit slower- some time later, we're talkin about several minutes here from a "cold" start, any kind of gps applications shoudl work in this way, but not many have adapted yet.
Enough said, there should be a system application to exclude the Agps -that sometimes confuses some gps applications-, in this way you might correct your problem, I think that this utility comes only with the new roms.
Sorry if I can't remember the exact name, but if you search the xperia sub-forum with the gps word, you will find it.
Good luck
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searched couldnt really find anything related to my problem
any easy steps i can take,,change the port or something?
xperia is built for gps, google maps work fine with gps, i cant just seem to get signals on garmin, google map does get satelittle signals
any one that has garmin installed on their xperia perhaps could help me, i think its just the settings i might have to change
much thanks thought

When you start Garmin, what status bar do you see on the top-left corner? A satellite or signal bar?
If you see a satellite instead of the status bar, then you need to contact garmin about activation details. Your external gps settings or com port on 3,4,5,6,7 doesn't have ANYTHING to do with this.
And IF you want to quickly test your gps working properly, download and install GPStoday (i use for geotagging pictures) and see if you get signal on the GPS.
And make sure you do this outdoors too.

qritikal said:
ok i asked this in thread before
1. how can i make it so callers names are displayed when they call me, im talking about callers that are not on my contact list, my previous phone displayed name of callers that werent stored in my contacts, that exactly what i want
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i don't know if this is what you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475561
or maybe this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482872
let me know
cheers

anaadoul said:
i don't know if this is what you are looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=475561
or maybe this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=482872
let me know
cheers
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its close but not exactly, this searchs the webbook or something full of numbers...most people wont even be displayed
im looking for esomthing where the network detects callers and shows their names
i heard that the xperia is not capable of this, some phones are some arent
like most nokia phones do display names on my network

qritikal said:
its close but not exactly, this searchs the webbook or something full of numbers...most people wont even be displayed
im looking for esomthing where the network detects callers and shows their names
i heard that the xperia is not capable of this, some phones are some arent
like most nokia phones do display names on my network
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well, i have never heared of such a feature or service!
can u provide more information about it so atleast i can search for something?

qritikal said:
2. i have setup garmin mobile gps, everything functions fine, but i dont seem to get satellite signals, im guessing the problem is with how i have the settings connected, in external gps its in port com4..is this correct? or do i need to change it
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What ROM are you using? And what radio?
I installed Garmin Mobile XT on my fresh out-of-the-box Xperia and couldn't get it to work, Garmin couldn't detect the phone's GPS, even if Google Maps could. (was really pissed since I needed the GPS to find the church for a friends wedding) Then I found this forum and flashed the Generic R2 (NAM), then reinstalled Garmin. Worked like a charm. I have Touch-it 4.0 now (Didn't re-install Garmin since I installed it to the SD card after flashing to R2)
So try uninstalling and reinstalling Garmin, updating ROM, or doing a hard reset then reinstalling. Or even try getting a new installer. Up to now I still don't know why Garmin didn't work the first time, bet I suspect it was either a bad install or the old ROM.
By the way, in my personal experience I've found that QuickGPS and aGPS work well together, I get a satellite lock in 3-5 seconds, and I'm in SE Asia! Probably because we have more cel towers per capita here. I've read conflicting reports on this forum, though, so try and experiment with turning aGPS on/off and using/not using QuickGPS.

blackstone is a real GPS ?

may be a dumb question.
Is blackstone has a GPS (not AGPS) ?
ie. without a sim phone card , it can still receive GPS signal for mapking ?

It's a real GPS, works great with, for example TomTom.

yes gps works without a sim card. agps is also available through registry settings but requires a Data connection.

lots of people seem to think that aGPS is a cheap substitute for normal gps
but thats not the case aGPS is normal gps plus the ability to get locations
from cellphone towers if one can't get a clear gps signal like if one enters
a long tunnel
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GPS_Phone

aGPS is often mistaken as location-based service (LBS) or server-based GPS. mainly because the first generation of "Quick GPS" is also known as AGPS, which essentially is to download the satellite orbit path in advance instead of get it directly from the satellites at the point the receiver is trying to get a fix. The download process (receiving it from satellite) can be a lengthy process (30sec or longer depending on the reception level) thus the purpose of QGPS/AGPS.
I wrote a short article on the myth about AGPS, you can take a read if you are interested

Does anyone know what GPS chip is actually in the Touch HD? Is it a Sirf III? Is Static Navigation "ON" by default?

gregwee said:
Is it a Sirf III?
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No, it isn't. GPS is integrated in the MSM chip, I think its called something like Qualcomm MSM7201A gpsOne.

zenkinz said:
aGPS is often mistaken as location-based service (LBS) or server-based GPS. mainly because the first generation of "Quick GPS" is also known as AGPS, which essentially is to download the satellite orbit path in advance instead of get it directly from the satellites at the point the receiver is trying to get a fix. The download process (receiving it from satellite) can be a lengthy process (30sec or longer depending on the reception level) thus the purpose of QGPS/AGPS.
I wrote a short article on the myth about AGPS, you can take a read if you are interested
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thanks very much ..

thanks all for explaining ...

GPS without Data Charges???

Hi,
I still have my Telus branded Touch and was wondering if there was a way to get the gps working even though the phone isnt active any longer with Telus? Before it dialed into some remote server to get a really quick gps lock. I only recently pulled this thing out of the drawer cause I figured I may as well leave it in my car as a standalone tomtom gps unit. It wont lock onto any satalites though.
Any ideas? I used to have a external bluetooth gps receiever but I cant find that anywhere either.
I'm wondering if its just the rom thats on this thing.... I'm running the standard telus rom. If another rom has the ablity to lock onto GPS without the need for a cellular connection I'd be willing to try that out.
Thanks again!

Aaron McCarthy said:
Hi,
I still have my Telus branded Touch and was wondering if there was a way to get the gps working even though the phone isnt active any longer with Telus? Before it dialed into some remote server to get a really quick gps lock. I only recently pulled this thing out of the drawer cause I figured I may as well leave it in my car as a standalone tomtom gps unit. It wont lock onto any satalites though.
Any ideas? I used to have a external bluetooth gps receiever but I cant find that anywhere either.
I'm wondering if its just the rom thats on this thing.... I'm running the standard telus rom. If another rom has the ablity to lock onto GPS without the need for a cellular connection I'd be willing to try that out.
Thanks again!
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I am on Verizon. I don't know the specifics about Telus. If your GPS is unlocked then technically you should be able to use your GPS without your radio being turned on. Even use it with the radio turned on & use TomTom which does not require a data connection.
As far as getting your GPS to work, I don't exactly know if the process is simular to Verizon. Perhaps someone else will lend you a hand. I did find some threads for you though.
Take a look at NFSFAN's ROM's
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406320&highlight=telus+gps&page=3
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508544&highlight=telus+gps

I know there is a "hybrid" gps setup on the the vogue that you can tweak in the registry to get only the gps chip to lock. Try searching for "hybrid gps" and such in this forum and the dev/hacking forum. It was discussed at length a little while after the htc rom upgrade releases last year.

If you are willing to upgrade to NFSFAN's Windows Mobile 6.5, you can follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3680840#post3680840 and in Post #5 there is a cab that will disable aGPS so it won't look for a connection to help. With this you will be solely reliant on the phone's Full GPS chip, which may take anywhere from 1-5 minutes to get a full lock. It's not as sensitive as an external bluetooth GPS receiver. You can find this and other GPS/Winmo upgrades in the Vogue upgrading section of xda.

canyoufindben said:
If you are willing to upgrade to NFSFAN's Windows Mobile 6.5, you can follow this link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=3680840#post3680840 and in Post #5 there is a cab that will disable aGPS so it won't look for a connection to help. With this you will be solely reliant on the phone's Full GPS chip, which may take anywhere from 1-5 minutes to get a full lock. It's not as sensitive as an external bluetooth GPS receiver. You can find this and other GPS/Winmo upgrades in the Vogue upgrading section of xda.
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Once he upgrades it will work just like a standalone TomTom unit. I don't sound like he is going to have the phone activated anyway. The Standalone TomTom units take about 1-5 minutes to lock anyway.

jadesse said:
Once he upgrades it will work just like a standalone TomTom unit. I don't sound like he is going to have the phone activated anyway. The Standalone TomTom units take about 1-5 minutes to lock anyway.
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Right, that why I suggested it. Since he won't be using it with service, there's no reason to stick with the stock ROM.

[Q] How to use GPS with no internet connection?

Hi, What do I need for my blackstone in order to use any (suggestions, which is better, would be a great help) GPS sowtware without internet connection. I am not an expert in this, but I know that GPS devices (like tom tom or similar) use satellite data to show coordinates. How can this be done on my touch hd? As only preinstalled program is google maps that require internet connection.
I don't have unlimited data plan, so this is extremely expensive for me, but I am a fan of geocatching, so I need GPS.
Please help me with description of how this GPS works and what soft should I use?
Thanks

There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657

bethybabes69 said:
There are lots of good Navigation/GPS Apps around that read standalone maps from your SDCard.
Take your pick.
Some info here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=566657
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Hi, thank for the info, but....
I installed TT7 with my region maps, but I still seem not to receive any GPS signal - my phone seems not to catch any satellite signal - is this a setting issue?

in tomtom7, just access the gps settings and set them to "internal gps receiver", then it should work immediately, given that in your very location you have gps coverage.

I've found that my Touch HD's GPS capabilities work great when I'm at home testing them, then fails to locate any satellites when I'm lost! lol
Not exactly true - but has got me before!
I would suggest that you try your GPS in various locations just to make sure that the building you live / work in, or the weather isn't blocking the signal that your phones GPS listens for...
I used TomTom for ages without issue, it can be copied directly from a memory card on a TomTom compatible device usually.
Recently my Dad bought iGo8 with the entire world maps installed, so I pinched that and run it straight off my storage card with just a few teething problems. This is the best GPS / SatNav on my phone so far...

+1 for iGO8
Best GPS software by far for me. This is the only and single reason why I haven't bought an Android phone yet.
If they would have created the same skinable thing for a HTC Desire etc the HD would be history.
If I were you.
1) disable a-gps, causes roaming costs and most gps application freak out on it (download advanced config tool and disable it that way)
Lock, no lock, lock, ... mostly caused by agps (assisted-gps). Assisted means that it also gets data from the cell-tower which abroad can cost you loads of money (and yes I had that once)
If you use HTC quick gps you will probably get a lock in seconds if you are outside so no need for assisted.
2) install the gps mod driver , this one 'thinks' ahead by calculating points that it gets from the GPS receiver. If you don't feel confident about this one skip it but read the thread and keep it in the back of your head.
3) buy iGO8 and install the gurjon skin which makes iGO look fantastic and makes it fully configurable the way you want it.
4) enjoy a fantastic GPS system

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