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Connection preference settings

Hi,
I have had a search to see if this has been covered before but maybe I am using the wrong query.
I have an O2 Exec with the latest O2 Rom, and now when I do an email send and receive, the GPRS connection stays up. Whereas I could have sworn in the earlier ROM it disconnected after the send/receive.
I spoke to O2 and they assured me that it is supposed to do that, and since I only get charged for actaul data transfer, I can sit connected to GPRS all day for free (is this correct).
Now, my main question is. Say GPRS is up and connected, and I turn on WIFI or plug into my PC using the charger/sync cable and then do a send and receive. Will the Exec use these free connections or still route data over the GPRS?
I did a test and it looked as though when I did this, the GPRS connection was shut down, as after a send/receive and then disable WIFI, the connection setting showed a large U and not the connected icon.
I am now sitting with a GPRS connection active, email is set to manual and I have Pocket Weather set to 'Auto update on connection' and 'Auto update on Active Sync', but 'Use connection manager' is disabled as is 'Force a connect when not available'.
Should this mean that no data is used at all and that I can sit connected at no cost.
Sorry for the long rambling post, but I am a complete newbie to all this GPRS pda thing.
regards,
/Mad

related question - how to stop gprs connecting automatically
My wifi router at home is dodgy and sometimes the signal drops - this means my exec switches over automatically to GPRS (I'm not in a 3G area) and starts whacking up a big data bill before I realise. Is there anyway of getting it to ask me if I want to connect to GPRS - rather than it just telling me thats what its doing? Can't turn the phone off cos I still need to receive calls.
I did think of just scarmbling my connection settings, but now I've upgraded to the latest O2 rom the connections settings page does not show any existing connections! (I also can't get TomTom to run at all now but I guess I'll work through that one :-( )
Thanks,
John

I believe this is what you are looking for. Y
ou can set which connections programs use for thier internet access in Settings -> Connections -> Connections -> Advanced, Select Networks.
Choosing My Work Network or My ISP should stop programs sucking up your money.

Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks

Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the sam
webbyfoot said:
Thanks PReDiToR I've tried that but it then gives me a 'cannot connect' popup instead of using the wifi - it seems as if there has to be an accessible gprs connection for it to ignore before it will try wifi :-o
What does everyone else do? Maybe you're all rich or the company pays for your data?
Thanks
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Any luck yet with the GPRS / WiFi issue?? I have got the same problem

Derrr...
EDIT: Hey I've just read what I've written below and its exavctly what Preditor suggested - funny didn't work when I tried ........ I guess it was because I was trying 'My ISP' without gprs settings - which complained - whereas 'My Work Network' without gprs settings allows the wifi to connect ... :?
I've now got a workaround for this - means going through the menus every time I DO want GPRS data - but thats rare till I get a better contract which will have to wait till my 12 months with O2 is up in November.. web'n'walk sounds good - unlimited gprs :-o - (could T-Mobile really tell when I was using my XDa as a modem for my laptop - which is forbidden in the terms of this contarct - and when I was just usng data for its own programs - which is allowed ??)
Anyway what I do is settings>connections>advanced>Select Networks> choose My Work Network for programs connecting to the internet. I have no gprs settings in My Work Network but it connects to wifi no problem.
So when I forget and I'm out of wifi range I get an error that it can't connect, so change the setting back to 'MY ISP' and GPRS kicks in.
A Today Screen shortcut to the Network Management screen would help - but I'm almost always using wifi so I haven't bothered.
John

Using only Wifi

How do you select what network connection to use? 99% of the time I only ever want the phone to connect to the internet over Wifi (or bluetooth/cable connection to the computer) and not using Cingular's network. There is the occasional time that I would like to enable that but most of the time I want to only use the Wifi. Where can I set so it doesn't connect to Cingular accidentally (say if I'm out of Wifi range or hit the wrong button) so i don't get large data charges?
Thanks

In connexion option set default internet connexion as "my work network" and privat network default as "my work network" as well.

So lemme just confirm something - unless I configure server settings on the a HTC TyTN (using stock rom) on the Cingular network - it will not be able to use Cingulars network right? The only time I will be able to access the internet with the phone is over wifi, bluetooth connection (or USB) with an internet enabled computer. Otherwise the internet will not function and I will not be charged data charges correct?
I don't really ever find myself using the internet on a phone when I'm away from home so I can't justify the expense of the data service but I work on a few websites that I'd like to look good on a cellphone so that's my main reason for wanting internet access on it - so while I'm at work I can log into the wifi system and test the site while I'm tweaking the code.
Am I correct in assuming that I shouldn't be charged under this situation?

Hi, I'm on Vodafone and I made the changes fun_key posted without noting down the original settings. Please can someone tell me what the default settings are for internet connection and private network connection. Thanks

Switching off GPRS

Hi is there anyway of switching GPRS Off wuithout turning the phone off?
I want to be ablt to use wireless at home however it constantly switches to GPRS - driving me mad. I have a 1gb allowance on my GPRS but i use that for my pushmail for office mails.
I would like to be able to surf at home usig WIFI, when doing this is there a setting (not connection manager) that can turn GPRS off when i am using WIFI?

If you set your WiFi connection as connected to the Internet instead of Work, and in the network adapters setting (settings, connections, network cards, network adapters tab) set that your network card connects to the internet, once you establish an internet connection with WiFi, it should kick your GPRS connection off. On my phone GPRS still tries to connect once in a while for some reason, but never does, since the WiFi internet connection just keeps kicking it off.

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Hi is there anyway of switching GPRS Off wuithout turning the phone off?
I want to be ablt to use wireless at home however it constantly switches to GPRS - driving me mad. I have a 1gb allowance on my GPRS but i use that for my pushmail for office mails.
I would like to be able to surf at home usig WIFI, when doing this is there a setting (not connection manager) that can turn GPRS off when i am using WIFI?
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rassah's method is more professional than mine and better perhaps. I'm lazy so I just go to connections button below on/off button and then tap off the GPRS via button that looks like a PDA with two arrows. If GPRS tries to reconnect there should be a popup if you have wifi on that allows you to cancel it's reconnection. This does not disable the phone.
Mike

thanks - i will try this - do you know if this will affect the dirct push mail?

Just thought this may help, found it on Modaco.. Works a treat, just toggles gprs data on and off... Very easy and works
Not sure how OK it is to post links to other forums but as it is free software I guess I should be OK...
http://www.modaco.com/New-FREE-Utility-t246171.html
Phil

superb application - especially usefull when roaming

Just what I needed, going overseas next month, I don't want to use any data while there.

Connections Question

Hi All,
New to my fantastic HD Touch so apologise if this is an obvious question..
If I have wifi enabled and data connection enabled, if i go onto the internet or, say, Youtube for aguments sake, will it use the Wifi connection as a priority over the data connection?
I ask because i want to keep my bills down without having to manually keep turning the data connection off (it connects every 5 mins to check for email)
Thanks
Loving this forum by the way!!

Depends on how the connection is set up. You can check your config by going to settings->connections->connections->advanced->select networks
There is then a drop down under the heading "Programs that automatically connect to the internet should connect using:". When I bought mine this was set to "Contract Internet" which basically means my vodafone data connection. I managed to run up a bill of over £50 before I spotted this (this was before I moved to a decent data package).
I changed this setting to "My Work Network" and it then used the wifi in preference to the cell connection. However, I think (although haven't scientifically tested) that if a program gets a cell connection before the wifi is activated then it may not automatically switch over if wifi is subsequently enabled.
BTW I tested all this using a $10 app called GPRS Traffic Monitor (which can monitor HSDPA as well as GPRS) to see if the traffic figures rose while browsing the net with wifi on and off. After changing my settings the data usage figures only went up if wifi was off.

Disallow mobile connections

Hi,
is there any possibility to disallow your win mo device (touch hd) connecting to the mobile internet even if you for example click on "send/receive" in mail? The only way to stop this that I found out is switching off phone in com manager...
I use wm 6.5 by miri.
By the way my mail program even wants to connect to mobile internet if I've wifi switched on - and mobile internet is quite expensive for me...

Do a search for "NoData", this will install a wee utlility that will enable you to disable your GPRS connection, thus leaving the phone on but no data.

I solved this by setting that only "my" network group of connections was allowed to connect to the internet and in that group I put all my WiFi access points and hotspots.
Everytime I flash my rom though, my phone is quick to waste a couple of € by autoconnecting before I finish setting everything up.

I solved this by setting that only "my" network group of connections was allowed to connect to the internet and in that group I put all my WiFi access points and hotspots.
Everytime I flash my rom though, my phone is quick to waste a couple of € by autoconnecting before I finish setting everything up.

Nodata won't fonction on my device (Rhodium), it crashes when I start it.
Any idea why?
I've got CF 3.5 installed on my device.
In any case, I travel a lot and I have no use for data on the cellphone network so I haven't set it up at all.
I'm assuming my phone won't find which server to use on it's own right?
Pat

Why don't you just remove the internet connection settings if you NEVER want to connect?
Oh wait -- you just said you do not have it set up at all. Now I am confused. Does your phone still establish a connection DESPITE the fact that you do not have it set up (no apn etc)?