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Which UI do you prefer?

Just wanted to gauge what everyone's thoughts were about which UI they prefer the most now that there are so many options.
Which do you prefer using out of the below:
TF3D
TF3D2
Titanium
Point UI
SPB Mobile Shell

Voted for TF3D even tho I haven't tested any of the other, but I've seen youtube videos.

Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.

CraZyLiLbOy said:
Neither of them..Sense UI all the way.
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It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.

tf3d2, love new calendar, and dipper manila

supersanj said:
It hasn't been ported to the diamond properly yet hence i left that one out.
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It doesn't matter if it hasn't been ported to the diamond..All I know is that Sense UI is the best UI out there. Just my two cents.

Wich UI do you prefer?
I would say PointUI Pro with the Sense UI themes and applets, works like a charm, feels smooth and lag free.

SPB Mobile Shell 3

SPB shell is the best for me, better than manilla, it can be configured like you want and everything it is very accesible and finger friendly.

Using titanium right now. But can't wait when HTC releases sense ui for winmo.
Also looking for good port of sense ui for now, which one you using CraZyLiLbOy ?

voted TF3D2 now it's very usable also with the "old" diamond
PointUI is really nice but wastes too much memory
SPB Shell isn't free

I really like SPB shell is the best.
Its finger friendly, customisable and easy to use.

I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!

Trident said:
I'm a Titanium user for now. But when Manila 2.6 shows up... I'll be switching to that!
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Im with you on that one Trident. Can't wait for the Diamond Dev's to port it over

I feel all the new UIs are memory hungry, so use the old school Touch Home screen, got everything you need, and still room to fit a couple of home plugin's on the today screen, and it runs so much quicker than anything else I've tried (and I've tried them all)

does anyone knows where to find old school htc today for vga screen?
found couple htc today, but icons are too smal at vga screen.

This is the one I use, works fine both portrait and landscape.
Upload didn't work, here you :
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=5P18BXUV

I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU

matrix77 said:
I am useing SPB and I like all programs to be finger friendly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSod3qtVRjU
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Agreed. Everything is so much easier with it. You dont even have to use the start menu if you configure it properly.

SPB mobile shell is well worth the $30

WM6.5 and TouchFlow

I have a T-mobile Compact 5 (aka Topaz) running wm6.1. I understand that in the near future 6.5 will be made available. With this, will there be a new touchflow interface? I have seen screenshits of 6.5 and I cant say I'm over excited about it. I hope very much that TF is not discontinued on 6.5. Anyone knows?
regards

Personally I suspect it'll look like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igRAl0swRsI. I hope it does.

Each to his own ... can't say the new manila is doing much for me, as evidenced on latest custom roms. Just looks like clutter, especially on the home screen.

chris5s said:
Each to his own ... can't say the new manila is doing much for me, as evidenced on latest custom roms. Just looks like clutter, especially on the home screen.
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im with you there however theres a few improvements that i prefer over the original touchflo, such as the favorite contacts screen. I also like the landscape photo gallery however at the moment that still runs a little chunky for me

Thanks for your replies.
I look forward to it. The short cuts on the home screen will be a BIG help for the way I use my phone.
Cheers

ATT Rom - Best Replacement?

I have the ATT tilt 2, and it is great but i hate the stock ATT branded bloatware version. What is the best rom for it to date? I love the touch flo 3d and would like to keep it, but be able to remove all of the ATT logos in the background and everywhere else. Thanks for your help.
Will

There are plenty of ROMs, and it's really depending on your own personal style, trial and error. I'm trying out EnergyROM from here, but you may also want to look at others in this forum.

First let me say I found the stock AT&T ROM very satisfactory. It was responsive and worked well. First I deleted much of the bloat using the wiki as a guide. But the weather clock proved too tempting and I flashed a custom ROM. I went with this one and am very satisfied:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=568233
Only thing is that for me YouTube isn't working. Others report it works for them and a few like my self have issues. You might not have the issue. I recommended you do a hard reset after the install.
I hear good things about the Energy ROM too. I like the ROM I'm using because it was less app pre-installed, so I can install them myself onto the storage card keeping my device relatively clean and with ample storage available.

Do you guys recommend HTC Sense 2.1 or 2.5?

GermanGuy said:
Do you guys recommend HTC Sense 2.1 or 2.5?
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Just my 2 cents. 2.5 has a few nice things like Twitter tab, new email tab. But the Contacts tab is ugly and the lack of landscape is a deal breaker. If I didnt want landscape I would go back to my tilt lol lol ok 2 cent spent lol

zelendel said:
Just my 2 cents. 2.5 has a few nice things like Twitter tab, new email tab. But the Contacts tab is ugly and the lack of landscape is a deal breaker. If I didnt want landscape I would go back to my tilt lol lol ok 2 cent spent lol
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Is the clock/weather animation the same? I like the clouds passing across the screen.

GermanGuy said:
Is the clock/weather animation the same? I like the clouds passing across the screen.
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I believe they both have the weather animations. I like the contacts tab in 2.5 better but like the programs tab in 2.1.
Right now I'm using 2.5, but plan on giving 2.1 a try tonight.
Best thing is to try both and decide for yourself.

I have the energy rom, and it works great. But how do you change the background in all the tabs? I figured out the home screen, but i cant figure out how to change the background on all the other tabs in touchflow3d

I put the stock HTC euro 6.5 rom on my TILT2. works like a dream

willthomason said:
I have the energy rom, and it works great. But how do you change the background in all the tabs? I figured out the home screen, but i cant figure out how to change the background on all the other tabs in touchflow3d
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There is a cab that will change all background tabs. BE WARNED!! When you change the background you lose the weather animation. Weather Animation only works with default background. You can use HD WALL to change it and not lose the animation. here is a link for 2.1 1919

zelendel said:
Just my 2 cents. 2.5 has a few nice things like Twitter tab, new email tab. But the Contacts tab is ugly and the lack of landscape is a deal breaker. If I didnt want landscape I would go back to my tilt lol lol ok 2 cent spent lol
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not to start a flame war or anything but... do you REALLY need landscape in manila? really? it has landscape in photo and music AND just about every app (sms, email, web browser, etc.) but really? having landscape on the homescreen that important?
anyhow... you should try flashing the official clean europe WWE version first. then move up from there. im running 2.5 and its beautiful. i dont need landscape in manila. why would i? why would anyone? everything else has landscape...
btw: youtube works fine too. wifi/3g high/low quality. (and of course in landscape....)

AtomAng Fusion 6.0 Sense 2.1 ATT
The AT&T keyboard works without any additional cabs. Sense 2.1 supports screens in landscape mode.

xcesivemastub8ah said:
not to start a flame war or anything but... do you REALLY need landscape in manila? really? it has landscape in photo and music AND just about every app (sms, email, web browser, etc.) but really? having landscape on the homescreen that important?
anyhow... you should try flashing the official clean europe WWE version first. then move up from there. im running 2.5 and its beautiful. i dont need landscape in manila. why would i?? everything else has landscape...
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Do i realy need landscape well no but sense my phone is normally on my desk woth the screen tilted it does make it awhole lot easier. mainly when i am stuck at a desk for 12 plus hours a day 6 days aweek. so to answer your question do I need it then now but will i live with out it if it is available well that is also a no. lol ok back on topic

i would like to try out the At0mAng Fusion V6.0 but the download will take 4 days it appears. can anyone email/file transfer it to me that already has it?
[email protected]
xfire: optimatez
or we can use hamachi or ftp if you have access.

btw the background file you sent me to worked great, thanks! just need to try out the sense 2.5 now... if only i could find it.

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Do i realy need landscape well no but sense my phone is normally on my desk woth the screen tilted it does make it awhole lot easier. mainly when i am stuck at a desk for 12 plus hours a day 6 days aweek. so to answer your question do I need it then now but will i live with out it if it is available well that is also a no. lol ok back on topic
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lol ok. i wasnt trying to be rude. im guessing you're saying you wanna see the clock in landscape as that is pretty much the only thing that isnt landscape supported in 2.5. but for those that dont know, it can get confusing when people say "no landscape". 2.5 DOES have landscape. on everthing but the manila(home) screens. if you open the sms app, for example, and open the keyboard or tilt it sideways using the accelerometer it WILL go into landscape. same in web browser and every other app. not to bring up the "other" phone, but just to compare 2.5 is like the iphone os as in: homescreen stays upright no matter what but as soon as you open any app you can tilt it into landdscape. or, in the tp2, open the keyboard into landscape... so YES 2.5 has landscape. just not in home screens. (with the exception of you, how many times do most people have the keyboard out in the clock screen?)
as far as ROMS, and back on topic , if 2.1 is your cup of tea, then i say go with the official ones. pretty much as close to bug free as youre gonna get. instead of trading ATT's bloatware for someone elses. get an official one on there then install whatever app you DO use. i went from att's to the official europe WWE one from the htc website(you still have to hardspl, btw) and i gotta say: i dont even know if my tilt2 does "edge" anymore as it hasnt budge from HSPA since.. worst case is 1 or 2 bars of "H" inside buildings.. and everything works. i then went from that to 2.5 and its just beautiful. been on it since. bug free as far as i can tell... Rhodium_AF htc sense 2.5 by ark666.

IMO, the TPC ROM is the best ATT replacement. Since I got my Tilt2 I've been messing with all the ROMs and finally decided to stick with this one. It's clean, nice looking, and very stable. The only problem I see so far is that activesync shows up in the taskmanager, but that's not really a problem cause it's always running anyways.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=576361

aruppenthal is just getting started with his At&t based rom. It's still very beta but in the weeks to come it will be the rom of choice for Tilt2 owners.
If you're not wanting to test a beta I'd look to one of At0mAng's At&t roms (Sense 2.1 or 2.5)
Read both of the threads and see what looks good to you.

GinjiVitis said:
I put the stock HTC euro 6.5 rom on my TILT2. works like a dream
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Sorry if this is a newbie type question but in flashing the euro rom, do you maintain US 3G?

i ended up using the energy rom, i liked it, especially the start menu at the bottom. but then i settled on the Rhodium_AF htc sense 2.5 by ark666.
i like this one the most, i will continue using it until i get the itch to change again. iused the HDwall to change the backgrounds and it looks great, it just wont do landscape when im in the htc sense 2.5, which isnt that big of a deal. Overall super happy with this phone, blows the old tilt out of the water (even though its not technically the next version of the tilt)
Thanks everyone!
Will

Looking for a few more things...

I just got the TP2 for USCC last week. (WM6.5) I haven't used WM in about 2 years and am pretty dissapointed to find a lot of the same issues that were present then. I used to be a fairly competent WM user with above average knowledge in registry editing, ROM flashing, etc but most of what I used to use seems to have changed. So far I have found the fixes for the sms sent notification and the organization of the contact list by last name, first to first, last.
I've been all over these forums and cannot find a fix to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...ever. Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently. I want system volume loud for hearing things like my IM app that runs in the background yet have the ringer volume lower as it's over bearing on full.
Something else I have noticed is that some settings menus appear to be there but not functioning. For instance, under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab. I've notice several menu's like this throughout the phone. It seems like there are things that other versions of WM may have had that this doesn't or simply that Microsoft/HTC got lazy in the initial release and either did not remove tabs that were not intended to be there or forgot to finish some that should. Just wondering if anyone has some insight into this.
I'm also looking for a good free IM client. I've seen many apps across these forums but with so many out there, it's hard to find the right one for me. I refuse to pay $45 for Agile messenger (although I've seen hacked versions but I would prefer not to deal with that). It's a decent app, not great but decent but $45 for a very simple app is outrageous. So, I found Slick ( http://slick.en.softonic.com/windowsmobile ) which is a free app and works great! The only feature it is missing that I liked about Agile is a notification (similar to the annoying sms message sent notification that I removed) while the app is in standby. Does anyone know of another free IM app that is simple and has that feature? I only use Google Talk and have noticed some apps specifically for that but there are so many to try, I'm hoping someone has a good recommendation to save me some time.
The last thing I'm curious about pertains to Manila. I see Manila all over these forums. I've done some reading on it and have a good understanding of what manila is. But, it's very confusing as some thread talk about reflashing ROMS for it and others talk about installing cabs over your current rom for it. Does anyone have a link to a good thread(s) that will explain things more clearly so I can make an educated decision on the best way to try this out? A, Manila for Dummies, if you will.
Thanks in advance for any help!
Edit: It looks like the "Manila" Touch Flo design is incorporated in WM 6.5 on my device already? Is this mainly the custom tabs located at the bottom of the today screen?

CeLlgUy said:
...to disable the onscreen keyboard from auto-popping...
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There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
CeLlgUy said:
... Also, in the sound settings menu, there is a slider to adjust ringer volume and another to adjust system volume yet these two don't work independently....
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Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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... under settings>all settings>today there is a 2nd tab for items that does not change from the appearance tab....
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First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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No comment. I use MSN Messenger. See if other can help you out here.
CeLlgUy said:
... A, Manila for Dummies, if you will....
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See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.

ohyeahar said:
There's an option to disable "Auto Deploy SIP" in Advanced Configuration Tool.
Go to "Settings" tab, tap "Sound", turn off "Single Volume Control".
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Can't believe I missed that one, thanks.
First of all, TF3D/TouchFlo3d, Manila, or Sense are essentially the same thing. It's a skin designed by HTC to cover up WinMo. You may say it's actualy just a very elaborate Today screen plugin. Since it takes up the whole screen, you would not be able to add other items.
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I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
See above for a crude definition. There are many versions, so that's why there's so much discussion in these forums about them. People are trying to use versions that didn't come stock with their devices.
TF2D or Manila 2D - for budget devices like the Touch Vivo, Touch Cruise, etc
TF3D v1 - originally came on the Touch Diamond and Touch Pro
TF3D v2- came with the Touch Diamond 2 and our Touch Pro2.
TF3D v2.1 - came with the release of the official WinMo 6.5 ROM for the Touch Diamond2 and our Touch Pro2. Identifiable with the weather under the clock in the Home tab.
TF3D v2.5 - came with the release of the Touch HD2. Has customizable shortcuts on the Home tab, revamped People tab, coverflow-like Pictures tab and Music tab when in landscape, and other goodies.
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That actually clears it up quite a bit. So it appears that my CDMA TP2 with USCC is actually 2.1 or 2.5? I see you stated our TP2 is is 2.1 but your description of 2.5 seems to fit my phone. Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
Btw, going forward, you may want to list out what you're asking in bullet point form. Most people are put off by long essay-like posts. You'll get more responses if your post is clear and short.
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Sorry about that, I was reading though forums for about 2 hours after the bar last night when I typed all of that. I tend to get a bit winded when I'm intoxicated.

CeLlgUy said:
I was just using that particular option as an example of a menu that is present but cannot be accessed.
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Where else are there menu options that doesn't look like they belong? Anyway, if there are, then it's because of Microsoft and not HTC. We're on WinMo is on version 6.5 now, but it really hasn't changed much since I first used a pocket PC back in 2000.
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Either way, it looks like I can just addon on any Manila Cabs that customize the home screen more as Manila is already installed?
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Certainly, there are components that are possible to install via cabs. But often, you'll need to flash a ROM with the particular build of Manila that you want to get those features.

So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?

Also, anyone have a fix for the keyboard thing? I remembered the name of the cab i used to use, null keyboard but can't find anything that works with this rom. I've tried a few reg edits that have not worked.

CeLlgUy said:
So just to clear this up, if something is made for TF3D v2, it should (or might) work with our CDMA TP2 running the stock @M6.5 rom?
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It should, yes. However, if you have a TP2 with WM 6.5 you most likely have Manila 2.1 (in my case 2.1.191937). If you go to the Settings tab and scroll down, you should be able to see which version you have. That being said, many cabs work on all versions, a good few has to have a more specific version (like 2.0, 2.1 or 2.5) and a mere handful needs to be spot on (e.g. 2.1.1717).
After installing such a CAB you often need to restart your TF3D/Manila/Sense, and to do so you go to Start > Settings > Today and tick off HTC Sense. Tap OK and go back in to tick the HTC Sense box again. That restarts your TF3D.
Hope that made sense.

Thx for the clarification, I think I'm ready to start customizing this thing! I'm a bit hesitant as I really like alot of the features that come with the stock home screen. My last windows device was the 8125 and I modded the **** out of that home screen but this one I simply want to add a few highlights without loosing the over all look.
One thing I have been curious about is if there is a way to put a google search bar under the calendar. I know Google apps will put one up but then I have to go to my programs tab and open google apps so I might as well just eliminate a step and open opera.

I haven't checked to be honest with you, but I am satisfied with moving the internet tab a few notches closer to the home screen tab. I find that to be quick and easy enough! One tab on the tab and the google search is at the top of the screen.

Thanks for all the help! You gave me the tools I needed to dive back in. I understand the differences in Manila's now as I've flashed about 5 or 6 different roms. 2.5 is slick in theory, especially when Dusk Evolution v2.0 is theme is added but I had to return to 2.1. Thanks again for the help to get me started.

Im client look at PalRingo.. it's pretty awesome and covers most major networks (yahoo, MSN, gmail, facebook chat, icq others.

Yes, that's what I currently use. Kind of an old thread now too. I've come a long way since I started this thread.

Performance suggestion . Disable wallpaper

hey there
first i am sorry if this posting is against the forum rules, i do hope that it is not however.
here is my idea:
The Toch HD seems to be running much faster without any wallpaper. E.g. when the background of Manila is just black an there is no wallpaper at all, it scrolls more fluently.
so, is there any way to completely disable all the wallpapers in manila 2.5? in my case, i got the energy rom which sets wallpapers for all tabs by default, can i disable this?
i think we would get a nice performance boost.
regards, burobernd
p.s: no just taking a black picture file wont do the trick ..

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is there a cab to disable the wallpaper in home screen of Sense 2.5?
Bguards

Hello, do you mean when you use the standard wallpaper of manila?
I've one Idea. You could use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
With this programm you integrate a custom Wallpaper in Manila like its the standard wallpaper. So the wallpaper is a Manila file and not a jpg oder so...
Hope it helps
greets

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Hello, do you mean when you use the standard wallpaper of manila?
I've one Idea. You could use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=503511
With this programm you integrate a custom Wallpaper in Manila like its the standard wallpaper. So the wallpaper is a Manila file and not a jpg oder so...
Hope it helps
greets
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not using standard wallpaper nor installing cab created with HDWall, just remove all wallpapers in registry HKCU\Software\HTC\Manila, it would be obviously faster within manila 2.5.

Yes right but i have something to say... where are we going ? We need more and more Speed and often we want thinks from our Blackstone that he just CANT handle LOL my point is okay we can do many things for faster Manila so now we will remove all wallpapers and the phone will be with blank black screen ok.. so also we can CFC edit the manila images to make them alot more light but of course this will cause they to be not the best quality and the manila will be even faster.. then if we want we even can remove totaly some of the tabs and the Manila wil be more faster.. and alot other tweaks like this.. But my question is What we doing exactly? To be honest i prefer my device to be more slow but to look good and i to feel good when im playing with it.. so you spend alot of money for this device and on the final you even can`t have a wallpapr? LOL if someone need so Much Speed can buy Leo or Nexus One witch i think is the better choice right now..
We can make many many tweaks to have faster Interface but we will lose the quality and the beauty of that Interface

tsalta, this is a very interesting thought you have.
however, i see it differently: with all those shortcuts and weather icon and stuff on the homescreen, i think there are already enough (maybe even too much) items on it.
so, effectively, when setting a colorful wallpapers, the screen gets all messy which i dont like at all: no wallpaper at all allows me to have the clean and professional look i want to have, and yield a little bit of speed.
it is true that we should not pretend to have a leo with a 1ghz processor in it, so manila 2.5 might be a questionable choice. but, as it happens, the majority does want it on their phones, and then so be it. if they prefer a wallpaperless manila 2.5 to a wallpapered manila 2.1, that's legit!
and one last thing: i for my part didn't chose manila 2.5 because of the fancy homescreen but because of the many tiny fixes and enhancements in all the other tabs.
but as i said, you are right if you say that some roms are just loaded with fancy stuff that might run well on a leo, but not on our blackstone.
cheers

Yes yes it's just personal preference for speed or for eye candy. That's why many people are still using winmo 6.1 and many people are using energy's ROM. Thanks for the chefs here we get plenty of choices to balance our need
Actually it's kinda out of topic in the ROM development forum

MOD EDIT - Feel this thread is more suited in General discussion forum