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Im looking at buying a 3g phone, mainly for the odd web browse while im out. I live in rural west wales (uk)and I was suprised to find the the nearest town (aberystwyth) has 3g coverage by all networks except tmobile.
What i'd like to know is although it looks like HSDPA is currently not enabled by any network in this area (going off the coverage maps) who would be the best bet for rolling it out first?
At the moment im leaning going towards orange as they have slightly better coverage then the rest, 02 being second, voda 3rd and suprisingly 3 last.
Its a shame its so hard to find out network rollout plans!
My quick review for the X1i ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cQhWTBLxAuc
congrats on getting the X1i!
Any chance you could get a hold of an AT&T sim and test 3G connectivity?
Thanks..
dbond45 said:
congrats on getting the X1i!
Any chance you could get a hold of an AT&T sim and test 3G connectivity?
Thanks..
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tonite, on my way to class. the misses will be home later also so ill do it then.
Awesome!
Thanks for the mini-review. Phone looks awesome...
Dude that is a serious Coke nail you got there on your pinky..
nice which island you from?
lots of the peoples I went to school wit were from the islands
x1 looks nice definitely get the review wit the att 3g hooked up
should take one of your classmates sim cards and test it out
Even the video is a bit dark. But the content is excellent and give a definite answer on X1i w/ T-mobile 3G (although I am using AT&T and waiting yr update for AT&T 3G).
BTW, do you have any A2DP headset? I want to see if x1 has the same issue w/ my ATT Tilt which A2DP connection which get dropped after answer the phone.
He Never Said That He Was In A T-Mobile 3g Area
Mr. BuddyLee, never said that he was in a T-Mobile 3g area, but he made my day. Does anybody know what is the largest Sd Card or SdHC card capaciity for the Xperia X1 at this time.........?
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Even the video is a bit dark. But the content is excellent and give a definite answer on X1i w/ T-mobile 3G (although I am using AT&T and waiting yr update for AT&T 3G).
BTW, do you have any A2DP headset? I want to see if x1 has the same issue w/ my ATT Tilt which A2DP connection which get dropped after answer the phone.
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same here i'd prefer this then a touch pro given the screen is bigger and better resolution better battery life
I tried to do a video with more light on the phone to show the text but the light would reflect off the camera. So I decided to go all dark and to get all the content of the screen clearly.
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Mr. BuddyLee, never said that he was in a T-Mobile 3g area, but he made my day. Does anybody know what is the largest Sd Card or SdHC card capaciity for the Xperia X1 at this time.........?
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Sorry forgot to mention that i was in a 3g area. Im in NYC, got both bands here.
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Mr. BuddyLee, never said that he was in a T-Mobile 3g area, but he made my day. Does anybody know what is the largest Sd Card or SdHC card capaciity for the Xperia X1 at this time.........?
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SanDisk is about to release 16GBs in November in stores, and reportedly they can already be found at online stores.
http://www.engadget.com/2008/09/29/sandisk-fesses-up-to-16gb-microsdhc-and-m2-memory-cards/
Got my 16gb in the mail should be here tommorow
So Buddylee, you're in a Tmobile 3g area but you can't pick up 3g signal? That stink...btw which color do you have? Black or silver? I cant decide between black or silver.
I got black, and yea it stinks no 3g for the x1i. Ill just switch over to att instead of buying the x1a which supposedly may have the tmobile 3g.
I dont think the X1a has tmobile 3g band either, sonywill announce it on Nov 3 we shall see, but whatever, I got the G1 for that. Now I just have to decide what color to get.
Any luck with the GF's AT&T SIM? 3G on the X1i???
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i see gsm 850 + 1900 AND umts 850 + 1900 on that video. i live in an 850 area for hspa. looking forward to hearing your results, buddy lee. i've been ready to place my order for SO long...
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I got black, and yea it stinks no 3g for the x1i. Ill just switch over to att instead of buying the x1a which supposedly may have the tmobile 3g.
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Word, got my black X1i this morning too. It was a bit of a downer to see the supported bands for the X1i too, although I didn't expect it to work on T-Mo's USA 3G. I'm making the switch to AT&T too so no need to worry.
The panels are cool just wish you could set a default one at boot (but won't be long before an XDA hack allows it). I haven't seen any slowness on them as of yet but it only been a day. Also, I'm just getting into the SDK Panel plug-in for VS Studio which looks somewhat promising. Plus, can't wait to see what some of the XDA devs can do with it.
Nice video and good review....enjoy your X1!
BTW, if you're in the states and get an X1i, resist the urge to pick it up from the carrier then bring it back to work. I think I totalled about 30 minutes of real work and 5 or so hours of Xperia "work" after I got back from the DHL office, lol.
Ok, so the x1a got recalled and the x1i is being soled by addictedtophones.com. They currently have them in stock and have the black. Well I called them and the guy said that the x1i works with the 3g just as well as the x1a. If this is true than why would anyone want the x1a over the x1i due to the better video quality?
This website also comes with a 4gb memory card and a purchasable 1 or 2 year warranty. So, the question is, should I wait or purchase this phone, especially since I can get it now and with better stuff? What are the pros and cons?
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Ok, so the x1a got recalled and the x1i is being soled by addictedtophones.com. They currently have them in stock and have the black. Well I called them and the guy said that the x1i works with the 3g just as well as the x1a. If this is true than why would anyone want the x1a over the x1i due to the better video quality?
This website also comes with a 4gb memory card and a purchasable 1 or 2 year warranty. So, the question is, should I wait or purchase this phone, especially since I can get it now and with better stuff? What are the pros and cons?
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Because if u are in an area with 850 and no 1900 u wouldnt get 3g. But for people like me in the city the X1i is a must without a doubt. Im on 1900 and get atleast 2 bars with HSDPA everywhere i go except into deep parts of buildings where I tend to use wifi or actual computers.
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Ok, so the x1a got recalled
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X1a recalled my a$$! that is just some BS excuses!
maybe it's like Wii or WiiFit, cant make them fast enough?
i ordered my X1a from sonystyle.com, and i already got my X1a !
isnt it required by law to notifies all X1a owners if there is a recall?
i ordered from sonystyle.com, so they got my email. so where is my recall email??
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Because if u are in an area with 850 and no 1900 u wouldnt get 3g. But for people like me in the city the X1i is a must without a doubt. Im on 1900 and get atleast 2 bars with HSDPA everywhere i go except into deep parts of buildings where I tend to use wifi or actual computers.
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Ok, lets say half of the time I live in a big city (Birmingham, AL) where there is 3g (at 5bars) and the other half I live in a very rural area where it runs off of the edge network and you might get 3 bars and there is no chance possible of getting 3g. Will the phone still work and receive internet as well as my at&t tilt? This is the determining factor of which one I get... thanks for your response so far!
I found this: http://www.wireless.att.com/download/GPRS_coverage_leg.pdf which like I said half of the time I live in birmingham and the other half I live in a place in the middle of birmingham and atlanta. So would the x1i be good idea or a horrible idea. Sorry I don't exactly understand all of this.
And would sony cover the same warranty on the x1i as they would the x1a in the US?
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X1a recalled my a$$! that is just some BS excuses!
maybe it's like Wii or WiiFit, cant make them fast enough?
i ordered my X1a from sonystyle.com, and i already got my X1a !
isnt it required by law to notifies all X1a owners if there is a recall?
i ordered from sonystyle.com, so they got my email. so where is my recall email??
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It was only the x1a black that got recalled due to a crack in the screen i believe. Not 100% sure on that. But, seeing as you have the x1a silver, your's is perfectly fine to my knowledge.
Att 3g runs on either 850 or 1900 spectrum. First you have to identify which spectrum you have running in your area ... I am assuming that you got 850 but I may be wrong double check it) Ok so if you have 1900 spectrum with the 3g in the area then u get 3g with the X1i. If you have 850 spectrum with att 3g in your area you will only get edge speeds. If at home you only get edge, then ... actually im a bit tired its sunday evening ... ill simplify this so i wouldnt confuse myself
1. Birmingham, AL check the map to see if its the 1900 spectrum running if yes then u get 3g on the xperia.
2 Birmingham, AL only 850 spectrum you only get edge on xperia
3. Will the phone work and receive internet as your tilt ... yes only on edge depending on if you are using it at home. But if you are in the 3g area of Birmingham, AL and 1900 spectrum is running then u get 3g.
Mind you remember this ... att 3g runs on either 1900 or 850. The X1i only has 1900 so if you are in an area that has 1900, you are good to go. If you are in an area that only has 850 then u only get edge. But either way you will still get voice and internet no matter where you go and att has service there. 3g only comes into play where has the 1900 rollout. eg where i live in nyc we have both 1900 and 850, so maybe you have both in your area but check the map and see. I am too tired to do it.
Ok i was looking at the map, i see red in parts of alabama, red is good ... too tired to look for birmingham, but understand this, 3g for the x1i only runs on 1900 in the us. If you arent in that area you get edge speeds right across the board and everything else works normally.
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Att 3g runs on either 850 or 1900 spectrum. First you have to identify which spectrum you have running in your area ... I am assuming that you got 850 but I may be wrong double check it) Ok so if you have 1900 spectrum with the 3g in the area then u get 3g with the X1i. If you have 850 spectrum with att 3g in your area you will only get edge speeds. If at home you only get edge, then ... actually im a bit tired its sunday evening ... ill simplify this so i wouldnt confuse myself
1. Birmingham, AL check the map to see if its the 1900 spectrum running if yes then u get 3g on the xperia.
2 Birmingham, AL only 850 spectrum you only get edge on xperia
3. Will the phone work and receive internet as your tilt ... yes only on edge depending on if you are using it at home. But if you are in the 3g area of Birmingham, AL and 1900 spectrum is running then u get 3g.
Mind you remember this ... att 3g runs on either 1900 or 850. The X1i only has 1900 so if you are in an area that has 1900, you are good to go. If you are in an area that only has 850 then u only get edge. But either way you will still get voice and internet no matter where you go and att has service there. 3g only comes into play where has the 1900 rollout. eg where i live in nyc we have both 1900 and 850, so maybe you have both in your area but check the map and see. I am too tired to do it.
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You are awesome and I love you! Haha, no but seriously thank you so much! I believe that I might as well get the x1i from what I've heard.
Really there is only 2 questions left.
1. Will Sony honor the support/warranty as well as the x1a vs the x1i in the US?
2. Is there any difference in speeds with the x1a vs x1i on 3g if both of them are accessing the 1900?
Please do not feel obligated to answer these tonight. Go get some rest and thankyou so much for all of your help!
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You are awesome and I love you! Haha, no but seriously thank you so much! I believe that I might as well get the x1i from what I've heard.
Really there is only 2 questions left.
1. Will Sony honor the support/warranty as well as the x1a vs the x1i in the US?
2. Is there any difference in speeds with the x1a vs x1i on 3g if both of them are accessing the 1900?
Please do not feel obligated to answer these tonight. Go get some rest and thankyou so much for all of your help!
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The warranty part I dont know, but the speeds are the same.
X1a vs X1i
I live in a "fringe" area outside of Atlanta. I had both phones and he X1a held 3G 95% of the time and the X1i was maybe 40%. I didn't take the phones into the city for better coverage testing as I work from home and needed the 3g where I am the most. If you are in a coverage area where 1900 is strong, jump on it ( x1i) Great phone, I am one of the few it seems like to have a perfernce of silver over black on this one......
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It was only the x1a black that got recalled due to a crack in the screen i believe. Not 100% sure on that. But, seeing as you have the x1a silver, your's is perfectly fine to my knowledge.
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the x1a in black was never released in the u.s so it has never been recalled. the silver version is the one that has been recalled.
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I live in a "fringe" area outside of Atlanta. I had both phones and he X1a held 3G 95% of the time and the X1i was maybe 40%. I didn't take the phones into the city for better coverage testing as I work from home and needed the 3g where I am the most. If you are in a coverage area where 1900 is strong, jump on it ( x1i) Great phone, I am one of the few it seems like to have a perfernce of silver over black on this one......
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Wow, that just told me a lot and I think this new information is my complete deciding factor. I wan't 3g to work in the most possible places, even if I go to Atlanta once every two years even, I want to know that it will work there, better than 45%. Thanks I really appreciate your comment!!!
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the x1a in black was never released in the u.s so it has never been recalled. the silver version is the one that has been recalled.
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Than why did Sony tell me the black was recalled and no one I've talked to have received the e-mail saying that the silver was? That's why Sony said yesterday that BestBuy still has not gotten it yet due to software issues. And your wrong about it being released in the united states, it was to the bestbuy shipping department, they just had never put it online until the release date of december 7th, until it was recalled and they had to ship it back. It was released in the United States but just not to the public. Or at least all of this is what I have been told.
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Than why did Sony tell me the black was recalled and no one I've talked to have received the e-mail saying that the silver was? That's why Sony said yesterday that BestBuy still has not gotten it yet due to software issues. And your wrong about it being released in the united states, it was to the bestbuy shipping department, they just had never put it online until the release date of december 7th, until it was recalled and they had to ship it back. It was released in the United States but just not to the public. Or at least all of this is what I have been told.
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you need to check your information again. the silver one has been recalled and there is no way you can get the silver x1a right now. and saying that the black one was released in the united states, just not to the public is wrong because if it was not released to the public then how can you even call it a release? plz check your information before posting stuff.
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you need to check your information again. the silver one has been recalled and there is no way you can get the silver x1a right now.
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and maybe u need to check your info also!
what makes u think it' a recall and not just SOLD OUT?
is Wii or Wii Fit a recall also? cus Wii or Wii Fit is hard to get too!
Read here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1465853
US one was recalled for firmware issues.
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Read here:
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1465853
US one was recalled for firmware issues.
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funny, all those people already have X1a in their hand got no problems or issues. only those not released got issues! haha
"Temporarily out of stock. Estimated ship date: 01/12/2009" http://www.sonystyle.com/webapp/wcs...10151&langId=-1&productId=8198552921665702060
I agree - it's a questionable recall, and if so, why was the x1i not recalled?
I am giving up on the US version and bought the x1i (for the second time). No black version on the x1a anywhere it seems.
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, why was the x1i not recalled?
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x1i and x1a are different only for phone part an some little details about inferfacing chipset->radio. So the mess should be there
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x1i and x1a are different only for phone part an some little details about inferfacing chipset->radio. So the mess should be there
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if it' really a recall and not some BS excuess. how come all those X1a owners got no recall email from sonystyle.com?
Hi
I stuck my neck out and purchased a Touch HD telstra version from a company in australia. It just came in today and it appears to be working well on the 3G band of ATT. I have the H in the signal bar and DSL report speed test 934 kbs. More to follow.
see this: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NPV2LJDG
This is awesome news...please keep us updated and also tell us where you got it from?
Thanks.
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Hi
I stuck my neck out and purchased a Touch HD telstra version from a company in australia. It just came in today and it appears to be working well on the 3G band of ATT. I have the H in the signal bar and DSL report speed test 934 kbs. More to follow.
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WOW, thats compared to my E connection in Chicago that tested at 150K and WIFI at 1100K.
Ouch, I might shed a tear. I'm definitally jelous of 3g in US. Stuck on roughly 230kbps on E with tmobile. Though paying $10 for unlimited data and 200 msgs is nice compared to the move to At&t. Im =( nonetheless, but congrats to you
BTW, anyone know if its a change in hardware or software (like in diamond) that adds the frequency?
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I stuck my neck out and purchased a Touch HD telstra version from a company in australia. It just came in today and it appears to be working well on the 3G band of ATT. I have the H in the signal bar and DSL report speed test 934 kbs. More to follow.
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Just done the same thing here. Great to hear that you are having success!! thanks for letting us know.
Have you put a new ROM on the thing yet Dutty or something else?
Is the telstra customisation as bad as we have been hearing?
Cheers,
Awesome, please let us know where you got it from. Also, if you don't mind, how much was it with shipping and how long did it take to get.
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Awesome, please let us know where you got it from. Also, if you don't mind, how much was it with shipping and how long did it take to get.
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You have been quicker than me, I was writing the exact same questions
But yes guys, I really want to know in what store you found it.
Thanks !
Ebay:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:11&Item=280315368392
Took 4 days, should have been 3 but customs held it up--needed a form filled out that I was using it for "testing" (I guess because its not FCC approved). Seller was great.
So far so good, flashed it and testing out some new roms.
3G works fine.
Getting used to the big screen and few buttons(had a polaris).
Damn, this is some amazing news if true....
I just recently got an Xperia X1a, but the HTC Touch HD was definitely my first choice. But the 3G thing was a deal-breaker for me since I really wanted something that was speedy on the browsing.
I absolutely love my X1 but this is making me wonder if I should return it....
MAN, I hope this is just a myth, lol!
How sweet it is
$826 plus shipping is a considerable amount. It doesn't surprise me that the OP is able to get 3G. I wonder where the user is located. It might make a difference if everybody will get 3G in the United States. I wish there was some kind of map / key that would identify where the 850 / 1900 3G signals were at in North America. Congrats on having 3G with the HD in the United States. I am quite jealous I must say.
I am in north Florida.
BTW saw some posts about bluetooth skips.
Using Dutty 1.9 rom and pocket player, perfect sound with a 64 bitpool even with internet usage. Kept the stock radio.
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$826 plus shipping is a considerable amount. It doesn't surprise me that the OP is able to get 3G. I wonder where the user is located. It might make a difference if everybody will get 3G in the United States. I wish there was some kind of map / key that would identify where the 850 / 1900 3G signals were at in North America. Congrats on having 3G with the HD in the United States. I am quite jealous I must say.
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Really? That doesn't surprise you? All the threads I've read in the past were talking about how disappointing it was to not get 3G in the U.S. with the HD. And how it was most likely a hardware issue (although that is still up for debate). Most people were even skeptical about the Aussie version.
I think if you were to hit up an AT&T wireless store, they could show you which areas have the 3G signals, they did for me. Although I'm not sure if they'd be able to specify if it's an 850 signal area.
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Really? That doesn't surprise you? All the threads I've read in the past were talking about how disappointing it was to not get 3G in the U.S. with the HD. And how it was most likely a hardware issue (although that is still up for debate). Most people were even skeptical about the Aussie version.
I think if you were to hit up an AT&T wireless store, they could show you which areas have the 3G signals, they did for me. Although I'm not sure if they'd be able to specify if it's an 850 signal area.
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Exactly. I know where all the 3G areas are in the US they just won't be able to tell me on what frequency.
The Xperia works on the 1900mhz signal only and gets 3G in some areas. That's why I was not surprised.
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Exactly. I know where all the 3G areas are in the US they just won't be able to tell me on what frequency.
The Xperia works on the 1900mhz signal only and gets 3G in some areas. That's why I was not surprised.
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Ahh, I see I see.
I got a big fat H with a box around it on my Xperia (HSDPA I think), which I was told by another poster is actually a lil faster than 3G.
So does that mean my area has only 1900mhz signal? Or not necessarily...
I'm really considering returning my Xperia now hahahah
Anyone can tell what make the different from the T8285 and T8282, both of them have the same hardware.....how can the T8285 support 3G, i use my T8282 to flash the telstra rom but still cant get the 3G even the model name have changed to T8285. I still dont believe that is the hardware issue
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Anyone can tell what make the different from the T8285 and T8282, both of them have the same hardware.....how can the T8285 support 3G, i use my T8282 to flash the telstra rom but still cant get the 3G even the model name have changed to T8285. I still dont believe that is the hardware issue
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You've put the Telstra software on a T8282, and don't get 3G.
Yet you still don't think it's hardware!?
Just ordered mine...oh man, 4 days is too long.....why is it only 4:00AM in Australia.....comeon ship it now already
From a differnt thread on the 850-1900 discussion:
http://cellularmap.net/att_850_1900.shtml
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$826 plus shipping is a considerable amount. It doesn't surprise me that the OP is able to get 3G. I wonder where the user is located. It might make a difference if everybody will get 3G in the United States. I wish there was some kind of map / key that would identify where the 850 / 1900 3G signals were at in North America. Congrats on having 3G with the HD in the United States. I am quite jealous I must say.
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Telstra T8285 fro EBAY AU Unlocked?
I have been tempted to order it on Ebay as well. It will be my first purchase on Ebay.... From what I can see the Telstra T8285 is the one I want and It says it's unlocked. I plan to pop my AT&T SIM card in and expect it to work on the 850 3g band. Am I missing anything else?? I'm pretty sure the folks who have already bought one have got it from the same source in AU. If I get the nerve to do this I will be selling my T8282.
Thanks
is just me or anyone having 3g problems. my 3g icon changes to edge then 3g very often sometimes withing feets of distance. very annoying, cuz my speed goes up n down. san jose area
Im in Pa and Ny and i dont get this issue
Hawaii. Yup. for no reason it'll cut and go from 3G to Edge
hope we dont get the same bug the nexus had or has not sure if they fix it...i guess we need to wait n see.
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hope we dont get the same bug the nexus had or has not sure if they fix it...i guess we need to wait n see.
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Nexus still has this issue I gave my wife my nexus and got the Hd2 for this reason
I'm in the San Jose Area and I don't have that problem.
same problem here in Olympia. went to the store to see what was up and the awesome clerks were more confused then i was
I'm not experiencing any issues like that here in Virginia Beach, VA. Sorry to hear about that, I know it would frustrate me!
Same city, Constant 3G at home but there are some areas of San Jose that I notice no signal or very weak signal. T-Mobile Store on Curtner for example.
same problems in Denver.
lost my tethering connection a few times due to this. I forced it to just the GSM/EDGE band, it's more reliable, but is SLOOOW.
-Tony
am in NYC and often my connection changes from 3G to E
me to in Marlton, NJ
What are the 3G frequencies for the US version? I live in Guatemala, and want to buy this without a contract
Thanks!
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What are the 3G frequencies for the US version? I live in Guatemala, and want to buy this without a contract
Thanks!
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WCDMA/HSPA: 1700 MHz (AWS) / 2100 MHz
has anyone tried a different radio ROM yet?
nope. and no word as to if the 2.09.51.03 radio works on the stock rom.
-Tony
I'm wandering if the other 3g mobile devices of tmobile have this..
Seems like Nexus One issue
I have the same issue, fluctuating from 3 bar 3G to 3-4 bar edge.
From what I read on other forums Nexus one seems to have had the same issue on TMo network. I am not sure if it is resolved yet.
I am kinda having the problem but I was told because they are about to launch HSDPA in my area so they have been turning it on and off alto so its messing with my reception and going from E to 3G to H and back and forth
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I'm in the San Jose Area and I don't have that problem.
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finally you got the phone as well i got myself one as well