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Youtube apps

I dont even mind using m.youtube.com but my provider charges extra for that so I really need a dedicated application.
The Manila Youtube app doesnt work so I've been searching around a bit.
I found this; http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-youtubeplay.html
Its fine but its not made for WVGA so its a bit ****ed up. Geus I could try it with the WVGA fix app but I'd still prefer a proper youtube program if anyone knows one?

Usually I'd suggest coreplayer. Lately Youtube has done some changes so currently the quality using Coreplayer to watch youtube is quite bad. Once they sort that out, I think it'll be the ideal player for Youtube since it allows you to zoom the video so it fills the whole screen (kind of like how the iPhone does it).
So yea... that or the Youtube app from HTC's Touch HD. Up to you to try that though. Last time I tried it, my multimedia panel broke so I'm waiting for a working version before I mess around with it again. Right now I just use that app you posted, youtubeplay, even though it's a bit crude and buggy.

Just use the this youtube software from Manila HD in this thread by zenkinz. It works great!

dinan said:
Usually I'd suggest coreplayer. Lately Youtube has done some changes so currently the quality using Coreplayer to watch youtube is quite bad. Once they sort that out, I think it'll be the ideal player for Youtube since it allows you to zoom the video so it fills the whole screen (kind of like how the iPhone does it).
So yea... that or the Youtube app from HTC's Touch HD. Up to you to try that though. Last time I tried it, my multimedia panel broke so I'm waiting for a working version before I mess around with it again. Right now I just use that app you posted, youtubeplay, even though it's a bit crude and buggy.
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Coreplayer is not free... and I cant find where to get it for free either
wdq30 said:
Just use the this youtube software from Manila HD in this thread by zenkinz. It works great!
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As Ive said I tried that and it doesnt work

HTC Youtube App

I received my Touch Pro 2 from Vodafone last week and aside from the garish theme colours for the TouchFLO, I've noticed that Vodafone haven't included the fantastic Youtube App.
Having tried the latest version of the app I could find, it worked but stopped Media Player from working in the process meaning I could no longer play MP4 or 3GP files from the HTC Album (comes up with 'source filter not found' when you try and play the video.) Only way I could sort this out was to do a hard reset as the app wouldn't uninstall itself.
So far I can only get Youtube to work from the web, the quality of which is shocking, or from CorePlayer which is equally as bad.
Does anyone know where I can get the Youtube CAB that's specifically written for the Touch Pro 2? Perhaps someone with the standard HTC TP2 ROM could extract it? The rest I can wait until a decent ROM is written then I'll unlock and flash the phone but Youtube I can't live without!

I have installed Kinoma on mine - seems to play youtube OK over wireless but over 3G it was pretty poor and kept stopping. Not sure if there's any way to get it to buffer more.
Steve.

That's just the problem Steve.
Whilst Youtube can be streamed even via the web through HTC Streaming Player or CorePlayer, the quality sucks and is barely watchable at times.
The HTC Youtube app is as good as dammit viewing on the desktop. Where HQ streams are available for instance, these are of superb quality and smooth too, even over 3G. Nothing else comes close but I can't find this app for love nor money, not the TP2 specific version of the app at least.

Noone got the Youtube app to hand or perhaps could extract the cab from the WWE ROM?

Not Vodafone
h0wz3r said:
I received my Touch Pro 2 from Vodafone last week and aside from the garish theme colours for the TouchFLO, I've noticed that Vodafone haven't included the fantastic Youtube App.!
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Just to let you know it's not just the vodafone version I have an Orange branded TP2 and the app is not installed on mine either?! If you are desperate to watch youtube try youtubeplay the interface isn't great but at least it works

well I know google made a youtube app for wm (strange that they are making apps for wm when they have android), and personally I like the htc one better, but the quality seems to be the same:
http://www.google.com/mobile/winmo/youtube.html
you have to enter your phone number and they will send you a download link to the app I dont know why they dont just let you download it off their website, but at least they made one lol

Steve,
sjwk said:
I have installed Kinoma on mine - seems to play youtube OK over wireless but over 3G it was pretty poor and kept stopping. Not sure if there's any way to get it to buffer more.
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Kinoma Play's YouTube playback quality will be as good or better than other YouTube clients under the same network conditions.
3G bitrates do vary constantly, so the quality of the data connection when you start playback affects the quality of the video/audio you'll see. You may get a higher-quality version the next time you play the video, or if you stop moving (if you were walking), or if you move 10 feet in any direction.
(Note that the latest Kinoma Play update includes a workaround for a YouTube bug, so results are not as good in Kinoma FreePlay as I write this. A Kinoma FreePlay update with that same workaround will be available soon.)
-- Charles Wiltgen

Thanks for the input guys, I see it's not just Vodafone who disable the app in their version of the ROM?
Whilst there are alternatives, I still think the HTC app is by far and away the best both in terms of usability and quality. So far the official HTC app is the only one I've seen that allows the HQ picture where available which makes a big difference to picture quality. Even standard videos look so much better through the official app, even at full screen.
I've seen several versions of the HTC youtube app on the web, the latest of which I tried but it messed up the media player and wouldn't play video files anymore. This had a knock-on effect in that you couldn't play videos anymore from the camera album. As mentioned I had to hard reset the phone to get rid of the youtube app and return things to normal, haven't touched it again since, perhaps it was the wrong version for this phone?
There must be the official HTC app for the TP2 floating around somewhere, esp given that some people have started 'dumping' their official ROMs for exploitation by the cookers.
Surely it wouldn't be too difficult to extract the app from the official HTC TP2 ROM for someone who is up to speed on these things?

I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip

arun1uk said:
I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip
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That's great... have you tested that it doesn't mess with the media player though?
Try filming a short video with the camera and then try playing that video back through the HTC album and see if it works?
If it works then obviously the video will play, if not, you may get a message similar to what I did which is 'can't find streaming filter for this file type' or words to that effect.
Let me know how you get on and if all checks out ok I'll try that CAB file

arun1uk said:
I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip
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How you getting on Arun? Have you had chance to test the media player etc yet for videos?

arun1uk said:
I used to have a Xperia X1 and someone created a YouTube app for that, I've installed it on my TP2 and it works a treat. Quality is fantastic and it works well on 3G/HSDPA as well as WiFi:
http://norti.hu/xperia/youtube_x1.zip
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OMG, is there a QVGA version for my Treo Pro (320x320) screen?
Just for curiosity sake I installed it but can only see one-third of the app on my square screen.

the X1 version still breaks the video gallery which totally sucks as it was absoutely great looking so looks like us vodafone people are still waiting...

redmanmark86 said:
the X1 version still breaks the video gallery which totally sucks as it was absoutely great looking so looks like us vodafone people are still waiting...
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Unfortunately this appears to be the case for now.
In the meantime I've downloaded and installed the Google YouTube app (see most recent thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4101425#post4101425 ) which appears to do the job to a certain extent. At least it doesn't mess with the HTC Album & video settings.
Obviously if anyone comes across the HTC version of the app that DOESN'T foul up the album & video then I'm sure there's quite a few of us, Vodafone users in particular, that would like to hear about it.

h0wz3r said:
Unfortunately this appears to be the case for now.
In the meantime I've downloaded and installed the Google YouTube app (see most recent thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4101425#post4101425 ) which appears to do the job to a certain extent. At least it doesn't mess with the HTC Album & video settings.
Obviously if anyone comes across the HTC version of the app that DOESN'T foul up the album & video then I'm sure there's quite a few of us, Vodafone users in particular, that would like to hear about it.
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for HD2 but may work:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=TWGCL8GL

Poor Youtube Video Quality with Hero

Today at Sprint store I played the same YouTube video on the Hero and the Pre side by side. The Pre looked great, the Hero had a very low frame rate and poor resolution. I hope someone can tell me something was wrong with the Hero and it is not always like this.
I am seriously considering buying a Hero and have been spending a lot of time at my local Sprint story getting to know it. Today I was trying out flash video on many sites and they all looked bad like I described above. I just assumed the videos had a poor source until I tried a YouTube video on the Pre. It is hard to believe all the reviews I have been seeing of the Hero wouldn't have hammered it for this if it were a common problem.

maybe the reviews didn't hammer it since at the time the choice was 'average flash performance' vs 'no flash at all'... I always watch youtube vids in the You Tube app which plays them smooth as silk, even in HD (with the occasional flutter)
If the need for smooth Flash animations takes precedence over the 1001 other unbelievably high quality aspects of the HTC Hero, then you should probably just buy a Pre like all the other dorks...

The quality of the video on the actual YouTube app is way superior to that you will get going onto the main site via the browser and the HTC Flash player.
Regards,
Dave

I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.

Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik

it is true, i did not know that. I usually watched videos through the site. Tried the youtube app on my hero and it is indeed crystal clear. Cool

erikcave said:
Thanks for the replies. I will try to get back to the Sprint store today and try out the video quality options.
How do I know if the video is playing in the YouTube app or not? The video I tried played full screen. Must I navigate there from a separate app than the browser?
Erik
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It is a physically separate app from which you can search/view Youtube videos. It came preloaded on my GSM Hero, so I assume it's still on the Sprint Hero.
If you go to Youtube via the browser, it launches the HTC Flash Player when you try to view a video, and this is quite poor! Thinking about it, I think on the G1 if you were on YouTube in a browser, it would launch any videos via the Youtube app (since it doesn't have a flash player).
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Dave

It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.

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It seems the phone should be smart enough to know you are loading YouTube videos and load the YouTube player instead of the HTC Flash Player.
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I think the "idea" is that if you have flash, you don't need the YouTube app. Sadly, it's a bad idea!
Regards,
Dave

bboydru said:
I'm not sure if the YouTube app chooses the video quality for you or not based on your connection. But, if the video starts off on low quality, just hit the menu button, choose "more" on the pop-up menu, and then select High Quality. It's crystal clear after that.
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exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.

Good advice in this thread and I would like too add I do not miss it Pre one bit. That device has some serious flaws not likely to be addressed for another year. Namely its weak SDK, lack of deep system / hardware access and lack of GPU support. The Pre can't use its own hardware properly much less the lack of options in all of the OS.

Vertig0 said:
exactly what I do and the quality is awesome, suck that the app wont allow you to choose HD for all videos.
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Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.

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erikcave said:
Wait, are you saying you have to do tell it to play high quality every time? That would suck indeed, and would be a serious oversight in functionality.
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Yes you do unless on WiFi. Then I think it automatically goes into high quality mode

Pre vs and youtube
I stoped by a Bell to try a Pre and compared it to my HTC touch on same Bell network, yes picture was great on Pre but it was slow, in fact I gave up waiting for it to load some video as my touch was playing them in half the time. Today at work we had my touch on bell a Touch 2 Pro on Telus and a iPhone on rogers, all playing the same video from You Tube and nothing compared to the touch pro 2 for quality video was HD looking and played without jumping, the IPhone 3gs crashed tohe sound quit working we had to restart it, and it then worked but picture of video was not full screen as the other two had. Big differance was the way they handled buffering the IPhone buffered all at first then played non-stop the other two would play a few seconds then buffer for up to 2 minutes play a few seconds then again buffer. I then played my IPod Touch same video but wifi, again video did not fit all the screen but no buffering and no digitaizing. So all in all a big disapointment with all three networks and their ability to play streaming HD video!

I was at the Sprint store again today and tried to enable high quality, but could never find the setting. I pressed the menu button over and over again while the video was playing, but it never did anything. Also, I intentionally loaded a video via the YouTube App and the quality was still bad. Furthermore I rebooted the device to be sure it wasn't just loaded down with running programs.
Weird

With the video on you press menu > more > watch high quality.

That's what I did. I pushed the menu button next to the trackball and nothing happened. No menu appeared. I also pushed every other button and the touched the screen.

YOutube vidoes hardly play.

So I have a Hero... and at fist it had bad quality until I found out that the setting could be changed. Now, my problem is that I can only play 1 out of 10 videos I try and play, it sucks... is there anything I can do to fix it and is anyone else having this problem??

yea, alot of videos dont work from the youtube app, even more dont work from youtube via the web browser + going through the browser gives ****ty quality
lets hope htc fix this up in 2.0/2.1 when they release it with the sense ui!

xsirhc6x said:
yea, alot of videos dont work from the youtube app, even more dont work from youtube via the web browser + going through the browser gives ****ty quality
lets hope htc fix this up in 2.0/2.1 when they release it with the sense ui!
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i heard in 2.0 most videos work cause of flash 10?

So I need 2.0?? How do I get it?
Also, is there maybe a differnt app or program that allows me to play youtube videos that isn't the one that comes with the phone? links if any plz.

are you on the stock rom? i'm using modaco's 3.0 and haven't got any problems, either on 3g or wifi.
there might be some media player apps that play streaming videos. on windows mobile, i used to use 'coreplayer' to stream youtube videos, worked well. there's gotta be one or two on android that do this??
btw, where is the setting to change the quality?

android really needs a coreplayer i miss the youtube on that works flawlessly
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maybe i spoke to soon
http://forum.corecodec.com/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=2885

nice!!! android needs this!

yes.. please.. what to do.. to fix this ??
I dont like.. that we have a youtube app.. that is 1/10 working!
any one.. have ideas ??

I think Youtube are using some Flash10 exclusive coding techniques that our beloved Hero can't handle due to the Hero actually don't have a full blown Flash10 support...

This would make sense, except that before I got the hero I had the mytouch and youtube app worked great with little to no problems (I've tried it on both a stock and rooted rom on both hero and mytouch). I'm having a hard time understanding why the hero has problems with it.
I do find that sometime if I go into a task manager and kill youtube and start it again it works for a bit. It seems also that changing the quality of the video causes it to quit working too.

I must be very lucky every single video i tryed to watch worked fine with stock ROM...
Maybe is connection related...or just pure luck

They should work as if I'm not mistake the youtube player links to the mp4 feed, he may need to update his rom to the latest version which plays smoothly.

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How to increase the video quality of the latest you tube video player?
I updated my youtube player to get some new features but in the process it seriously downgraded the video quality compared to the stock HD2 app when using wifi. How do I fix this?

anhyeuemmaimai said:
How to increase the video quality of the latest you tube video player?
I updated my youtube player to get some new features but in the process it seriously downgraded the video quality compared to the stock HD2 app when using wifi. How do I fix this?
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You can do a Hard Reset to take your phone back to factory settings. This will restore the original video player.

I still got the original app as you can still find the 25byte shortcut in the \windows directory.
I like the HD2 app because when you are on wireless yo get TOP notch video quality compared even to the latest youtube app. The youtube app allows you to actually sign in and have access to all content that you would from your desktop but the qality stinks on wifi and I was wondering if there was a way to get more qaulity?