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P3600 Review

A little review with pics posted in my blog, in spanish language (sorry for inconvenience), of course, with pics.
Click on my sing.

I have played with the trinity 1 day(also have a jamin) and a few thoughts
No fingerprint problem in the white version at least(think how hard it is to keep a black car looking good--but easier with a white)
Boot up speed very fast--45 sec or better
Bluetooth music--you will need all the tweaks of the prophet/hermes but if done it sounds good. No skipping with iplay/ R35
3G works even with my old ATT sim card(very fast download speeds- 5 x edge). Able to stream Sirius on the high bitrate setting! Can receive voice call while getting data!
Not unstable--put pocketweather, weatherpanel, ip dashboard, pocket plus, chronos--no probs
Camera-better with low light conditions
Speed-overall better
Speaker/ringtone--louder
Downside-None yet

I still cant believe it....
Got my Trinity one week now and its really the best Gadget I ever had. There is simply nothing wrong with it. Everything works. Fantastic.

bjrmd said:
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Bluetooth music--you will need all the tweaks of the prophet/hermes but if done it sounds good...
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Which are all the tweaks? AFAIK there is only the 'JointStereo' one.

BTW--no problem streaming internet music over wifi to bluetooth headphones. This would not work on prophet

saminegm said:
Got my Trinity one week now and its really the best Gadget I ever had. There is simply nothing wrong with it. Everything works. Fantastic.
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Indeed, it is that great. I changed from Qtek 8310 (HTC Tornado) and I'm simply blown away about how much more you can do with this thing
Here's some pics of it:
http://www.sentiency.co.uk/weblog/pivot/entry.php?id=14

jesba said:
Indeed, it is that great. I changed from Qtek 8310 (HTC Tornado) and I'm simply blown away about how much more you can do with this thing
Here's some pics of it:
http://www.sentiency.co.uk/weblog/pivot/entry.php?id=14
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nice pics jesba...thanks.

For Dutch people my review:
http://www.windowsmobiles.nl/index.php?topic=1350.0
With a lot of detail pictures.

jesba said:
Indeed, it is that great. I changed from Qtek 8310 (HTC Tornado) and I'm simply blown away about how much more you can do with this thing
Here's some pics of it:
http://www.sentiency.co.uk/weblog/pivot/entry.php?id=14
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the black really looks good on this unit!

adewidt said:
For Dutch people my review:
http://www.windowsmobiles.nl/index.php?topic=1350.0
With a lot of detail pictures.
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Dude! Do you have the same sluggishness with the dutch P3600 (maybe WWE has it also)... i really think it's horribly slow sometimes; slow menu popups, unbearable scrolling-speed, etc. It seems to consume lots of RAM compared to WM2003SE on Jam when running.
Nice review btw !
Do you have any good tips in the field of registry-hacks 'n stuff ? Like making it possible to map more buttons ?
I've read somewhere here that there's a lot of tweaks for Bluetooth stereo on the TyTN and the S200...what would those be, and can someone explain some more about that ? (i'm having trouble connecting it for the first time, and some dropouts sometimes... will resume music after phonecall though )

hey Sagit, i think you should hide your IME #...

James281 said:
hey Sagit, i think you should hide your IME #...
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why is that? what can be done with a stolen IMIE #?

Moaske said:
Dude! Do you have the same sluggishness with the dutch P3600 (maybe WWE has it also)... i really think it's horribly slow sometimes; slow menu popups, unbearable scrolling-speed, etc. It seems to consume lots of RAM compared to WM2003SE on Jam when running.
Nice review btw !
Do you have any good tips in the field of registry-hacks 'n stuff ? Like making it possible to map more buttons ?
I've read somewhere here that there's a lot of tweaks for Bluetooth stereo on the TyTN and the S200...what would those be, and can someone explain some more about that ? (i'm having trouble connecting it for the first time, and some dropouts sometimes... will resume music after phonecall though )
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When a lot of programs are open it slow down a bit, but not that much. The reaction time of menus is slower then mine Qtek s100. I don't know if it is a WM5 issue or the device. Emulators like Scumm and Dosbox feel definitely faster.
I also made some registry and Windows Mobiles hacks.
I mapped the speech recognition button to the CommManager and the voice recorder is the speech recognition button.
I added the US/WWE softkeyboard to the device. The Dutch keyboard is missing the question-mark and exclamation-mark when showing large keys.
I now have the WWE keyboard which is definitely better.
Maybe I try to create a new thread with some registry hacks next week.
At this moment I try to buy a Nokia HS-12W headset, I hope it is compatible with the HTC P3600.

Just curious, how did you add the US/WWE keyboard?

emay said:
Just curious, how did you add the US/WWE keyboard?
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I extracted a HTC Wizard (WWE) rom to my PC.
I copied the following files to my device:
msim.96.dll
msim.dll
After placing the files you need to add the next registry key:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}]
"ShiftLock"=dword:00000000
"KBMode"=dword:00000000
@="Keyboard"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\InprocServer32]
@="msim.dll"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
@="1"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\DefaultIcon]
@="msim.dll,0"
There is only a problem with setting it as default input methode.
It gave me a white screen after a soft-reset.
Next week I will try to post the files, if it is legal.

adewidt said:
Maybe I try to create a new thread with some registry hacks next week.
At this moment I try to buy a Nokia HS-12W headset, I hope it is compatible with the HTC P3600.
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Excellent idea... Would be nice to have a list of possible hacks, allthough some are to be found in the hermes wiki...

A review of the Dopod D810 : http://www.kaitech.hk/content/view/264/56/ a video review of the black P3600 : http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1065177

adewidt said:
I extracted a HTC Wizard (WWE) rom to my PC.
I copied the following files to my device:
msim.96.dll
msim.dll
After placing the files you need to add the next registry key:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}]
"ShiftLock"=dword:00000000
"KBMode"=dword:00000000
@="Keyboard"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\InprocServer32]
@="msim.dll"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
@="1"
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429667-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\DefaultIcon]
@="msim.dll,0"
There is only a problem with setting it as default input methode.
It gave me a white screen after a soft-reset.
Next week I will try to post the files, if it is legal.
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Looking forward to it, since I don't have a Hermes. Do have a keyboard skin for a Himalaya (WM5) though. Would that work?

TomTom or Garmin?

Hi all,
I've looked through the first 7 pages of this forum and can't see this question asked or answered anywhere.
I have my shiny new O2 XDA Ignito sitting in front of me and it is crying out for some sat nav software.
I have looked at TomTom navigator but from reading some of the posts on this site it appears TomTom 7 is the vogue. What are the differences between the two?
Is Garmin's mobile sat nav any good?
If I go for TomTom where is the best (sorry cheapest) place to buy it from on DVD?
Cheers.
Matt.

Garmin
Garmin Mobile XT is fantastic. I have it on my Tilt and it's as good if not better than the GPS in my car. It does turn by turn verbally which is a must. It even works in my pocket. You can have 3d maps or regular. It has traffic and automatic re-routing. It comes on a micro sd card and once you plug in the card it asks if you want to install. That's all there is to it.
The maps are great and detailed. The options are many. I love my Garmin and can't figure out why people aren't jumping on it. It's a one time cost rather than every month. Garmin is a great company to deal with and will be around when many of the others are gone.

FrankCB said:
Garmin Mobile XT is fantastic. I have it on my Tilt and it's as good if not better than the GPS in my car. It does turn by turn verbally which is a must. It even works in my pocket. You can have 3d maps or regular. It has traffic and automatic re-routing. It comes on a micro sd card and once you plug in the card it asks if you want to install. That's all there is to it.
The maps are great and detailed. The options are many. I love my Garmin and can't figure out why people aren't jumping on it. It's a one time cost rather than every month. Garmin is a great company to deal with and will be around when many of the others are gone.
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Does it come on CD/DVD though as the XDA Ignito (HTC Diamond) doesn't have a card slot?
Matt

My dad got a seperate GPS unit with the Garmin CD and it can install and show the map just fine, but cant use the internal GPS so that's totally useless. Of course that GPS brick should be optional if your phone includes a GPS (I mean you pay for it regardless).
Had to aquire that online special version just to get the thing working

use TomTom Navigator 7 - specificly developed for the VGA HTC Touch Diamond. Works perfect for me.

TomTom, it's perfect!

i use igo8.
found it to be better than tomtom.

darthbane2k said:
use TomTom Navigator 7 - specificly developed for the VGA HTC Touch Diamond. Works perfect for me.
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Rang Garmin and after 20 minutes they answered. They conformed you can buy their software on DVD but you have to buy the GPS receiver as well... something to do with unlocking the maps using a receiver code or something!
So as a result it looks like TomTom is the way forward for me.
When I go to the TT website it makes no mention of TT 7 and yt loads of you guys on here appear to be using it. Where do I get it from and how much is it (I know Navigator 6 is £87)?
Thanks in advance guys.
Matt.

TomTom7 is superb, in terms of obtaining a copy, a mere google search would probably locate it straight away, free or paid for

Would definately go for TT7 as they are what I would call the market leaders (for Europe anyway). I've used both and perhaps gotten used to TT7, but I have been using it for TT5, TT6 and now TT7 and it works with great map support for US, Europe and Australia. Suggest you google or download the cab from numerous folks here (...search!!) and then buy the maps (whatever) accordingly!

i have both tomtom7 and Garmin XT...diference is in refresh...TomTom refreshes position like 0,5 s and Garmin 1-1,5s
But i preffer Garmin ( we have better maps for our country for Garmin )

hey man go nav n go IGO8!!! better than tt7: faster, prettier & full 7digit postcodes in uk fresh speed cameras waypoints etc

PJ6363 said:
Would definately go for TT7 as they are what I would call the market leaders (for Europe anyway). I've used both and perhaps gotten used to TT7, but I have been using it for TT5, TT6 and now TT7 and it works with great map support for US, Europe and Australia. Suggest you google or download the cab from numerous folks here (...search!!) and then buy the maps (whatever) accordingly!
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I spent much of yesterday (to my wifes disgust!) searching this site and google for a link from which to download TT& and the only one I could come up with was this one
http://rapidshare.com/files/123733357/
posted on this site by Mahmood on 2/06/08. Unfortunately it didn't work. I couldn't find any others... maybe I couldn't see the wood for the trees, who knows?
Matt.

Krema+or said:
hey man go nav n go IGO8!!! better than tt7: faster, prettier & full 7digit postcodes in uk fresh speed cameras waypoints etc
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Just looked on their website at IGO 8. The site states that it will only work off the original SD memory card... Diamond doesn't have a slot!
Matt

Krema+or said:
hey man go nav n go IGO8!!! better than tt7: faster, prettier & full 7digit postcodes in uk fresh speed cameras waypoints etc
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TT7 also supports full postcode search with the ZIP plugin (easily found) and speed camera notifications

mb5049 said:
I spent much of yesterday (to my wifes disgust!) searching this site and google for a link from which to download TT& and the only one I could come up with was this one
http://rapidshare.com/files/123733357/
posted on this site by Mahmood on 2/06/08. Unfortunately it didn't work. I couldn't find any others... maybe I couldn't see the wood for the trees, who knows?
Matt.
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Have the TomTom cab at home, can send it to you/upload it tonight if you still need it

dan168 said:
Have the TomTom cab at home, can send it to you/upload it tonight if you still need it
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Sorry it's late but OH YES!!! (Please!)
PM me if you want or post I don't mind.
Matt

mb5049 said:
Sorry it's late but OH YES!!! (Please!)
PM me if you want or post I don't mind.
Matt
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PM sent
Edit: link here: http://www.megaupload.com/cn/?d=A6DFV9VH

Krema+or said:
hey man go nav n go IGO8!!! better than tt7: faster, prettier & full 7digit postcodes in uk fresh speed cameras waypoints etc
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you need to crack it since it will only work off a SD card :/. Anyhow iGO8 ftw

TomTom?
IGO?
Garmin?
McGuider! (aka Sygic DRIVE)
Works absolutely great on my Diamond, uses a nice black theme which fits perfectly, has lane guidance, detailed spoken instructions, nice fluid 3D graphics, the lot.

Satnav on X1

Got my X1 today and doing some testing tells me that Copilot live 7 satnav software doesnt seem very happy on X1 in case any of you were thinking of getting it. Works ok but seems to have a problem with the resolution. I was curious as Toshiba G900 is WVGA I think and it is officially supported by Copilot.

Hi Mate
Why not go for Tomtom 7, works flawlessly on mine and automatically changes to landscape when opening keyboard.
Cheers

TomTom 7 works like a charm on my UK Vodaphone X1 and swapping to landscape was flawless.
I recommend it also

This is not good news. Do you know if ALK are doing anything about this? I've done a quick search of the various forums and your post is the only reference I can find on the matter. I'd be interested to know if the Touch HD has the same problem.

I would love to use TT 7 but !
where can I buy it - in Germany no way !
Pls help !!!!

dwj said:
Got my X1 today and doing some testing tells me that Copilot live 7 satnav software doesnt seem very happy on X1 in case any of you were thinking of getting it. Works ok but seems to have a problem with the resolution. I was curious as Toshiba G900 is WVGA I think and it is officially supported by Copilot.
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Strange, because I got a mail from ALK yesterday. It said that Copilot should work with X1. They hadn`t done much testing yet, but it wasn`t any reason it shouldn`work according to ALK.
Try send them a mail to see what they answer.

Works ok for me
I have Co Pilot working fine and changes to landscape too. Just loaded it and off it went....no problems at all!

whitgreave said:
I have Co Pilot working fine and changes to landscape too. Just loaded it and off it went....no problems at all!
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Thats interesting and I couldnt see why it shouldnt work either so Ill ask alk about it. Problem i have (even tho it functions ok) is resolution. It takes up whole screen in portrait with text really big & in landscape it wont use whole screen & text so small impossible to read even with a magnifying glass!

peter7 said:
I would love to use TT 7 but !
where can I buy it - in Germany no way !
Pls help !!!!
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There are links to TomTom 7 on this site but you won't find any maps as you have to buy them from tomtom.
Google is your friend tho
I have TomTom 7 and UK maps and Speed camera database and its fantastic, started it up on my way home from work and locked onto 9 sats in 4 seconds

TomTom 7 out for WM 6.1

After over six weeks finally an answer from TomTom - could not be worse, it reads:
"Navigator 7 is a software product that is only available as an exclusive offering that comes preloaded on specific handsets that are available only in Europe. As such, unfortunately we do not have a Navigator 7 solution for your handsets. Outside of TomTom’s policy, our exclusivity with the handset manufactures prevents us from complying with your request. We do apologize for any inconvenience."
Is that no the best way to loose customers....

Although there are other ways to get TomTom 7 on your Xperia, that sucks indeed.

Looks like you won't get an official one. That sucks of them to be honest. I'm not an 'honorable' customer myself as I use a cracked one. But this is a fail-safe way of making paying customers go away.

If they won't sell it, that's their fault...
There are plenty of places to get TT7 on the net and it works a treat on the X1.

IGO8 is so much better than Tomtom anyway. I love igo8.

TomTom 7 - v7.910.9185 is the latest version available to download, works great on x1 but I agree igo 8 is better.

JKingDev said:
IGO8 is so much better than Tomtom anyway. I love igo8.
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Not really.
IGO has no automatic intelligent traffic rerouting based on real world traffic jams. No automatic updating of speed camera's (fixed & mobile). Igo does have a clickable navigation screen though. I.e. you can click on something your passing and see what it is. Tomtom 6 misses that, don't know about 7.

for me, tomtom 7.910 works like a charm

Did you have to do anything special to get 7.910 installed on yor X1. Everytime i try it comes up with device not supported.

Do you need to be connected to the internet to use tomtom7?

scotjen1 said:
Did you have to do anything special to get 7.910 installed on yor X1. Everytime i try it comes up with device not supported.
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Search for TomTom 7 Repack VGA Black
( TT_Nav_7.910.9185_vga_black.cab )
The unmodified version wont work because the X1 is not a "real" HTC -Device.

I have all the files and maps if anyone wants.

dnguyen1022 said:
Do you need to be connected to the internet to use tomtom7?
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No internet connection required.

Guys can someone please tell me how to upload the stuff if I am allowed to?
I have the cabs and the maps for Australia, USA and Canada, South Africa

MOD EDIT
don't post warez here

cbrandon said:
Guys can someone please tell me how to upload the stuff if I am allowed to?
I have the cabs and the maps for Australia, USA and Canada, South Africa
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You are NOT allowed to link to these files here because it's illegal to share instead of buying!

I can't seem to find a GPS signal for some reason...I have the latest maps and all...Does tomtom work by itself on the phone, or does it need an external antenna?

fotoingo said:
Search for TomTom 7 Repack VGA Black
( TT_Nav_7.910.9185_vga_black.cab )
The unmodified version wont work because the X1 is not a "real" HTC -Device.
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Thanks mate worked a treat. Found it to be a lot quicker then the old version to.

unfortunately POI icons are really small on xperia Wvga screen speedcamera detection is hard

guap said:
unfortunately POI icons are really small on xperia Wvga screen speedcamera detection is hard
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There is however a workaround. Download Resource Hacker, open a copy of TomTom Navigator.exe and remove the resource under HI_RES_AWARE. Save the file and replace on device.
Then I would recommend to install the navigation panel to easily run tomtom in landscape without having the keyboard out. If you use panels, that is ..
The text in the statusline is getting bigger as well, and portrait navigation is a bit narrow.

Anyone get TOMTOM to work on the US version?

I have TOMTOM 6 and 7 for my unlocked tilt but can't get either one to work on my Tmobile US version HD2... Very sad since we have the huge screen and I really don't want to use the TELNAV that came on it. Anyone have any luck with this by chance?
Mahalo Paul

Check the HD2 apps section. There is a working TomTom version for HD2 there.
Actually, here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647096
Next time post something like this in General not ROM development though.

alooohaboy said:
I have TOMTOM 6 and 7 for my unlocked tilt but can't get either one to work on my Tmobile US version HD2... Very sad since we have the huge screen and I really don't want to use the TELNAV that came on it. Anyone have any luck with this by chance?
Mahalo Paul
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Hi Tomtom 7 works great on HD2.The only problem is u have to buy maps from tomtom and u cannot use the downloaded maps as it does not recognize them in any way.tomtom will allow you to download one city map for free.
One more thing .Install tomtom 7_915.9196 version only.
If you try the other versions it will knock off your blue tooth.its really amazing.
i got garmin Xt to work somehow.I jumbled up different versions and finally its working and i linked it to navipanel. with small glitch.when i click the phone now in navipanel the app freezes.trying to figure out why?
best of luck

i use igo primo,and works fine,also.

kable said:
Check the HD2 apps section. There is a working TomTom version for HD2 there.
Actually, here is the link.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647096
Next time post something like this in General not ROM development though.
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Yes that version works fine .. You can add it to the whitelist for the gsensor and that also works well ...
Also on the forum there is a patch that makes it work with the navipanel, if I cannot find the thread, or you can't I think I still have the patch ... Don't want to post it and insult the original poster till other options are tried ...