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4gb mini sd card

Before I splash out out on this card...will it work OK in my Wizard ?
http://www.imatephonestore.com/acce...te K-Jam&accMDL=MEM_MINI4GB&sameAs=IMATE_KJAM

I am pretty sure there are NO 4 gb minisd cards on the market. There have been a few stories of skams that would make me v wary. I have been watching the market/forums for months and seen absolutely no credible reports of one in existence.
I have magnified the picture of the claimed 4gb minisd card - and to my eyes it looks duped! the 4 is not in line or same font as the 0 - what do others think?

Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.

From another Forum
it deals with the sda but here is some info from HOFO
http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=957514&page=5

WarezAppz said:
Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.
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Where then - show me a legit 4gb minisd. I have followed that thread and still there no real world 4gb minisd cards. All the ones advertised on ebay etc... are scams. As the above thread stated and the above image - they have been photoedited and v poorly too.

meschle said:
WarezAppz said:
Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.
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Where then - show me a legit 4gb minisd. I have followed that thread and still there no real world minisd cards. All the ones advertised on ebay etc... are scams. As the above thread stated and the above image - they have been photoedited and v poorly too.
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Oh I agree with you - I am not sure there are any out yet, what I am saying is that is has been stated (presumably legitimately) that they will exist.

WarezAppz said:
meschle said:
WarezAppz said:
Yeah, there are 4gb cards
But I am not sure that the one you linked to is legit.
No branding for the manufacturer of the card itself is my biggest clue as to not believe it.
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Where then - show me a legit 4gb minisd. I have followed that thread and still there no real world minisd cards. All the ones advertised on ebay etc... are scams. As the above thread stated and the above image - they have been photoedited and v poorly too.
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Oh I agree with you - I am not sure there are any out yet, what I am saying is that is has been stated (presumably legitimately) that they will exist.
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Ok friends now Yep they were meant to come out 1st or 2nd Q this year but I think manufacturers have withdrawn because of microsd cards and I reckon they are investing in these. I would like the manufacturers to prove me wrong though because many think 4 and 8 gb minisd cards are feasible.

sandisk's site and wikipedia both say 2gb is the max

I don't know if you guys checked but 4gb sd's are out. I don't understand the difference btwn sd and mini. They are supposed to be the same but just smaller.

I have not seen any 4.0 GB miniSD's. The font on the picture is definitely fake. The "4" is of different font type and size. My advice is "DON'T BUY IT". It's a scam!

OP: No, it will not work in your Wizard....
good lord...
It looks like a lot of people here really need to do a bit of research before flapping their lips about things they are not informed about.
4gb MiniSD cards do in fact exist.
However, the Wizard can not recognize it because of the size. It can only see 2 gigs of a 4 gig card... so it is pretty much useless until there is some type of firmware update that would allow them to see all 4gb of the card.
Like I said though... the phones only see them as 2gb cards because of firmware limitations.

Just a thought . . .
So, since there is a 2gb limitation, I wonder if you partitioned the card to 2 - 2gb partitions if it would address that (probably not) but seeing as I do not have one - it is a question that idly went through my mind.

GldRush98 said:
OP: No, it will not work in your Wizard....
good lord...
It looks like a lot of people here really need to do a bit of research before flapping their lips about things they are not informed about.
4gb MiniSD cards do in fact exist.
However, the Wizard can not recognize it because of the size. It can only see 2 gigs of a 4 gig card... so it is pretty much useless until there is some type of firmware update that would allow them to see all 4gb of the card.
Like I said though... the phones only see them as 2gb cards because of firmware limitations.
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Thanks gldrush98 for those images- do you own one? You will find i have done quite alot of research and i dont flap :wink: The prophet - v similar firmware can manage a 4gb sd card without a problem as can the older magician. http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=32265&start=25
Sometimes the card needs to be at least 2gb full for the card to be fully recognized or formatted on the device with storage tools or the like.
Best to be formatted to fat16 not fat32 - thats why its probably not working properly in the wizard. Many 2gb cards even dont work on the wizard if formated to fat32.
You can also partition your memory card - see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=52380&highlight=format+4gb
This is the orig post that those images came from http://www.bengalboy.com/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=584&forum=8&post_id=4043
and it looks like the poster bought the card from the same link as the first post. So it may be legit.

8 gb is a possiblity for universal? is nuclear right?

well im sure some of you have read post from this guy. about how he is able to read files from his eight gb sd card in is uni even tho it only says 2 gb on his device. has anyone else gotten one of these supposed magical cards and tried it out? i searched on ebay and it seems to be that only one guy has or sells this specific card . is nuclear advertising for this guy , is he a scammer or is this true and we dont know about it yet. please give input if you have gotten one of these cards and have tested it out.

Even all those 4GB SD-cards are already non-standard and not working in most of the devices. From 4GB upwards they have to be SDHC-cards (SD 2.0) which are not supported by the Universal's reader. Sure, it would be possible to manufacture 8GB SD-cards, but it's very unlikely that they work in a lot of devices since SD was never meant to have more than 2GB.
Cheers,
-mARKUS

well i just saw today that a treo that was supposedly not able to support sdhc is now able to because of a firmware update. check engadgetmobile.com if that can be done with a treo why not the universal. if its a software problem im sure there are people in here that are able to help

Sorry about my long post but i am trying to give as much information as i can in one post.
I am requesting ROM builders to start firmware upgrades to support these 4GB and 8GB cards. Windows Crossbow doesnt support 4GB or 8GB SD only cards, instead it reads them and reformats them changing the firmware of the card to 2GB!!!!... I havent tried SDHC yet. Here are pictures of my 4GB Extreme III SanDisk SD only card. I couldnt upload it here so i zipped them and uploaded them to rapidshare. Helmi's AKU 3.5 ROM doesnt read a card formatted using Crossbow... i dont know its just too many details. I cant think. But I just want to let you guys know that you are right so far on your research. Keep the good work up!
http://rapidshare.com/files/8938902/sandisk_tech_support.zip
I emailed sandisk tech support these images. It seems they havent replied yet. Keep a track on all my threads as i keep posting about these cards everywhere.
Trust me its just because i have a lot of money that i am able to get my hands on these things. And i just keep posting my observations. I would even get my hands on the 32GB card if I could bribe the CEO of SanDisk.
It got reformatted to 2GB.. I am unable to make it 4GB again.
My 8GB card as you can see in pictures on ebay is a samsung make. Its also SD only. 8GB SDHC cards are available to be bought. They are a bit slower then normal SD cards and are cheaper too.
32GB cards will be coming soon in SD or SDHC i believe. I read it in news. Like its totally upto you to believe me or not, my information is very helpful to me but i still encounter problems and it seems not even sandisk can help me
Anyways so its a farse that Universal's SD card readers dont support SDHC. And you can file a lawsuit on SanDisk or Samsung for that. They just want you to spend more money into buying a SDHC card reader.... Truly its the ROM.

ok now i know u r full of shyt. u keep popsting that u have this card and it works but i have yet to see ne photos. u just like the attention u get from lieing through ur teeth. thats pretty sad

i dont know about the 8bg but my 4gb is working no probs,
doesnt matter if its empty, only used 900mb, or any amount in between empty or full, screen grab using SPB explorer of my current card status:

oh and to stop arguments there is no reason why nuclear couldnt download the demo of spb explorer then do a screen grab of his mem card section of memory just like i have in previous post!
so erm, as they say "get your cards out for the lads"

this is the card i got, dont know all the bull**** about this format that format, its slower etc, but this is quicker at loading tomtom sat nav up etc than my other card 1gb puremedia sd card, like i said 4gb, no problems http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SD_MOBYMEMORY_4096_001

daddy k said:
i dont know about the 8bg but my 4gb is working no probs, doesnt matter if its empty, only used 900mb, or any amount in between empty or full, screen grab using SPB explorer of my current card status
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Daddy k, what's your ROM version info? My 4GB card won't work at all in my Jasjar. I suspect a ROM upgrade will fix this, can you confirm it? Thanks! Cheers,

daddy k said:
this is the card i got, dont know all the bull**** about this format that format, its slower etc, but this is quicker at loading tomtom sat nav up etc than my other card 1gb puremedia sd card, like i said 4gb, no problems http://www.mobymemory.com/proddetail.asp?prod=SD_MOBYMEMORY_4096_001
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Thanks, maybe not all 4GB SD cards work in the Universal. Some cards are only meant for cameras. sigh

gibhenry said:
Daddy k, what's your ROM version info? My 4GB card won't work at all in my Jasjar. I suspect a ROM upgrade will fix this, can you confirm it? Thanks! Cheers,
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its the newest qtek one on here, not a cooked one,
details as shown upon bootup:
R:1. 13.00
G:42 47 p8
D:1.90 96 wwe
hope that can be of some help to anyone

I have been using a MyFlash Turbo SD - 4 GB for quite some time. I use it for converted dvd movies, mp3, photos, programs, GPS maps. It is 90% full.
It works very well for me.
ROM: 1.30.77 WWE
Radio: 1.14.10

8GB SD cards work for some people and doesnt work for other people. The best i know it works in digital cameras.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/80943-8-gb-sd-card.html

nuclear said:
8GB SD cards work.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/samsung-i730-i830-i830w/80943-8-gb-sd-card.html
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I don't know that I come to the same conclusion after reading the thread in the link. It seems questionable at best since two of the posters specifically said it did not work for them.

SDHC compliant devices work with SDHC cards, SD devices do not.
You may be lucky to get one that you can read from, but an SD device will not write to it without screwing it up.
The Universal is SD not SDHC

AlanJC said:
SDHC compliant devices work with SDHC cards, SD devices do not.
You may be lucky to get one that you can read from, but an SD device will not write to it without screwing it up.
The Universal is SD not SDHC
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Yo thats a SD card not a SDHC lol. in the email you said SDHD...now you say SDHC... lol

this is total bull, i have came to two conclusions after reading all these post.
1 -now it seems like the only person that sells this specific card that nuclear has is fastmemoryman and he is advertising for him. IF that is the case then i tell u guys not to deal with this scammer cause i bought from him before and was sent a 2 gb card disguised as a 4.
2- Nuclear does indead have a 8 gb card from samsung and is able to put his dvd in it but because sd 2.0 IS backward compatible as i have read it from several sites you are able to use only 4 gb of the 8. so he is putting his dvd in the card but only one movie,
those are the only two possible conclusion there is . so if its not number 1 then its number 2

henvanvo said:
this is total bull, i have came to two conclusions after reading all these post.
1 -now it seems like the only person that sells this specific card that nuclear has is fastmemoryman and he is advertising for him. IF that is the case then i tell u guys not to deal with this scammer cause i bought from him before and was sent a 2 gb card disguised as a 4.
2- Nuclear does indead have a 8 gb card from samsung and is able to put his dvd in it but because sd 2.0 IS backward compatible as i have read it from several sites you are able to use only 4 gb of the 8. so he is putting his dvd in the card but only one movie,
those are the only two possible conclusion there is . so if its not number 1 then its number 2
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Yup i think its #2 .... goddamn crossbow screwed up my 8GB card!... Alan knows it. Dont call me a scammer alright... first i am helping you and then you call me a scammer.

Don't bring me into this, I only know what you keep telling me, and what you post here.
I have no way of verifying what you say, one minute things work, one minute they don't, one minute you are developing a crossbow rom, the next you have one from another device.
It might be the language barrier, but half the time it sounds like you tell different stories from one thread to the next.

AlanJC said:
Don't bring me into this, I only know what you keep telling me, and what you post here.
I have no way of verifying what you say, one minute things work, one minute they don't, one minute you are developing a crossbow rom, the next you have one from another device.
It might be the language barrier, but half the time it sounds like you tell different stories from one thread to the next.
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Lets see now... i think its the language barrier. You didnt learn your english good enough eh. Howcome i understand whatever you post but you dont understand anything that i post. So far there is only one person i know that understands everything i post. I dont even think Akula would understand what i posted. lol Alan ... i will clarify it again to you. my 8gb card got busted! it doesnt work anymore. crossbow screwed it up. i made crossbow by getting it off another device rom and modifying it! see can I be more clear than that?

8GB card in Prophet?

Anybody tried the new 8GB SD card in Prophet? I am tempted of buying one, but there is no way for me to test it beforehand.

terramax said:
Anybody tried the new 8GB SD card in Prophet? I am tempted of buying one, but there is no way for me to test it beforehand.
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It's not possible to use a 8GB SD becuase it use the HC (hight capacity) standard. The prophet card reader support only "normal" sd cards and not HC ones.
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lightman3dd said:
It's not possible to use a 8GB SD becuase it use the HC (hight capacity) standard. The prophet card reader support only "normal" sd cards and not HC ones.
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Not really. For example Samsung 8 GB SD claims to be both SD 1.1 and SD 2.0 compatible.

terramax said:
Not really. For example Samsung 8 MB SD claims to be both SD 1.1 and SD 2.0 compatible.
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Never find an information like this...i've always read that 8 Gb sd and above is compliant only with Sd2.0 (SDHC).

lightman3dd said:
Never find an information like this...i've always read that 8 Gb sd and above is compliant only with Sd2.0 (SDHC).
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This is why I am asking if anybody have actually used 8GB card in prophet, and not theories on why it shouldn't work. Treo users apparently were able to use SDHC cards just by updating driver.

For what it's worth, I've read that some HC cards will work in older SD readers, but that no more than 4GB will be accessible. I've also read that a driver update might be able to solve the problem.
I'm sure many will be ready to try it when a solution surfaces. Do any of the HTC units read the HC cards?

FYI, I was in contact with the Microsoft WM dev group that wrote the SD card code. They had yet to start writing code to support SDHC... I believe that was back in June/July.
My guess is that they might get it in to support WM6 devices. But for us, I think it's a lost cause. Oh well, save your money and wait for the dust to settle.
SDHC is such a fubar'ed standard anyways. 32 GB max??? We'll hit that in 3 years. Then another new standard? Gawd, what a waste.

a (stupid?) microSDHC question

I would like to know if I can use a "regular" microSD adapter with a microSDHC card.
I searched the newt for an answer, but there were several contradicting answers.
To the best of my knowledge, the adapter is no more than wiring -
Or - Am I wrong ?

Yes you can use microSD adapter with microSDHC
infact i'm using mine now and no problems at all

D69K said:
Yes you can use microSD adapter with microSDHC
infact i'm using mine now and no problems at all
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Great.
Thanks.
I thought so too, but since I had some problems with data transfer (you can see the thread I described it in) I just thought Id verify with someone else, just to be on the safe side.
Thanks again.

SDhc problem.

Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./

ZathuraPL said:
Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./
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I'm really not certain about this, but their a limit on the size SD card our hd2's can support. (Either 16 or 32gb which is what I'm uncertain of) try formatting your new SD card into two 16 gb partitions and then see what happens.
Hopefully either that helps or someone with more knowledge than I will comment and give you a better answer
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium

kylew1212 said:
I'm really not certain about this, but their a limit on the size SD card our hd2's can support. (Either 16 or 32gb which is what I'm uncertain of) try formatting your new SD card into two 16 gb partitions and then see what happens.
Hopefully either that helps or someone with more knowledge than I will comment and give you a better answer
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Well the limit is definitely not 16gb because I have one of those and it works fine in Android but it for some reason cannot boot SD Android. Also, if I'm not mistaken MarkAtHome (I've seen him in many of the NAND threads, especially NexusHD2) has a 64GB SDXC card as he was posting something about that a while ago. He'd have to confirm though.
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ZathuraPL said:
Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./
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Where did you get your memory card?? You son are a victim of false advertisement. I purposely purchased a "cheap" 16GB sd card from ebay and it wasnt even bigger than like 300MB. There are ways to fake the memory size, and thats why when you try to put the music on your card is says its not there because there truly isnt any physical memory available. And also why it gives those weird readouts. Sorry to bust the news :/
kylew1212 said:
I'm really not certain about this, but their a limit on the size SD card our hd2's can support. (Either 16 or 32gb which is what I'm uncertain of) try formatting your new SD card into two 16 gb partitions and then see what happens.
Hopefully either that helps or someone with more knowledge than I will comment and give you a better answer
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium
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According to HTC's website, the HD2 can support up to a 32GB SDHC (class 10 i believe)

elesbb said:
According to HTC's website, the HD2 can support up to a 32GB SDHC (class 10 i believe)
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People have used 64gb that also works

hengsheng120 said:
People have used 64gb that also works
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Yes. You set up two partitions 32 gb each.
Sent from my HTC HD2 using xda premium

There have been threads discussing how certain sd cards do not perform well in android devices, including the HD2. It has to do with some of the access times the cards are rated at.
I have tested a 32gb patriot class 10 card in the HD2 and samsung vibrant that made both phones freeze and run terribly slow until the card was removed.
Sandisk cards run flawlessly in the HD2 and I have only been using them for the past year, including a 32gb and a 64gb SDXC. The 64gb must be formatted as fat32 inside the phone before it can be used, but the full 64gb is available.

ZathuraPL said:
Hello!
I just got my new SD HC (32Gb) card for my htc HD2 device, but im getting weird crashes when i just put some Gb of for example music. It deletes some of it, or changes it to thousands of 0byte weird files..
Can someone help?
/card wasnt expensive and its not Kingston or so./
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I agree with elesbb. Infact the same thing had happened to me about 4 years ago. What they do it put a memory hack in the SD card fooling it to think there is more memory. I would say if you bought it from ebay contact the seller first and
tell them you think it might be fake and you wish to get a real card asap. If they don't send you one or sound like they may be un-willing to then you should report them. Here's some information found on ebay's site about fake memory cards.
If you bought it from a different online seller you should still contact them about it and say you did some research and believe you recieved a counterfit item. In the link i shared above there are a few examples of how to spot fake cards including some pictures if you go through the links. I've read somewhere that if you have a sandisk and the class rating is in the corner then you more then likly have a counterfit one. Sandisk's class ratings should be centered in the middle of the SD card.

Okay, i've just sent email to him, hopefully he will just re-send me new, (working..?) or give money back!