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I got the idea to make a application finder software for Windows Mobile. Specially designed to HTC Diamond, with many G-apps & games and other nice apps. It's under development now, and i will release one screenshot for you.
This app will not be just an styled IE-frame, like many "appstore" like apps that have been released before.
19. October 2008:
New Screenshot of the start screen.
Development stopped, becouse of the Gecko project.
I think this is a phenominal idea. The idea that went around recently was an internet based solution through ie explorer and it just was not device friendly. To have a device based solution is much more sensable. If you could create a server that developers could upload their most recent programs too that would be the best.
Maybe contact the system admin on this site and see if he will give your program to access the sites FTP server or something. Then a user could use your device based program that would seemlessly connect to the interenet in the back ground, poll the server for software, sort it and place it into a thumb friendly interface on the phone by which it could be sorted into categories of games, utilities, themes, programs etc etc....
Of course the admin would have to create those categories on the site's side and the developers would need to upload their program to the correct one but I think everyone has been in such a need for this that they would be willing to do it without much arm twisting.
Or, you could create device user interface that interacts with Orb.com... But then you would have to get the updates of programs and upload them to ORB for your program to work. But ORB does already have a sorting feature that your user controls on the device could be made to access for sorting etc. It even has a video section that a user could download tutorials of different programs that someone took time to make.
All just ideas. Some you may find good or not. I am excited to see a device based program though. It make user intereaction easier.
Curious G.
yes
Its a good idea, keep working on it
seems to be a nice idea
I like the idea but this really depends on what will be offered / how updated the actual site behind the store application is. Have you had any thoughts on that yet?
i second that.
at this time i browse via opera tho xda to download stuff... but having a app that simplifies things would be even better...
maybe all the downloads here could be managed and put upto "youre" server in an automated way..
I remember seeing this article a few weeks ago about Microsoft creating their own app store.
http://www.pocket-lint.co.uk/news/n.../job-advert-reveals-microsoft-skymarket.phtml
Either way, it's certainly a good idea!!
I forward the notion. An app that has all the apps at hand for easy download by category would kick some serious asss..
If I can help in any way let me know.
Greetings to all.
Love this development. Maybe this progress will open up eyes on new skilful programmers and we will see an increase of good looking apps and games. Not that I don't just love the things going on here at xda. But the more the merrier, right? The only complaint that I might have on this forum is the all the threads with wallpapers and especially the ones with half-naked women...But that's me...
So an app store (or two) is going to make it easier for us to sort out what we are interested in and only that.
If needed count me in I can help develop..
Great idea.
In the spirit of AppToDate, which I found worked very very well. But with YouTube-app like interface, all connected to database were latest apps can get installed.
Great idea!
I'm working to figure out how to connect to MySQL from a windows mobile based device, does anyone here know?
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i think if these two threads could be incorporated
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428480
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=433913
that would be a good way to do storage
each developer could use have there own account and then whenever they updated there app they update the wapps link via web or give it like some type of flash capabilities that would be really great
or there could be a generic account that ever one uses to upload too
looks like this is in the works http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=436127
maybe some collabo might be nice
Nice project!! GoOd Luck!!
If there was a way to advertise this app when it gets made. the diamond would sell millions
Why not just modify a RSS feed reader?
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I'm working to figure out how to connect to MySQL from a windows mobile based device, does anyone here know?
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Maybe Sqlite is more accurate for a mobile device ?
And you just download the sqlite file available on a server, this way requests would be very fast.
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Maybe Sqlite is more accurate for a mobile device ?
And you just download the sqlite file available on a server, this way requests would be very fast.
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Yes, every time you start it will update from the web or you can click on a button to update (or an 'update every x minutes' function
please keep up the hard work!!!!! love to see this appstore happen!
hello all and congrats on the new forum
the android in its current state is quite a poor business phone compared to winmo6.1 for a few reasons. can you all chip in in identifying the areas of weakness just to help out developers who want to do something about it
ill start by mentioning the obvious things to me
1. no exchange mail support with search server and html mail(maybe a roadsync port is needed)
2. no mention of vpn support
3. the join domain feature of wm6.1 was kinda useful to some
4. the only platform that can access our eap-tls network in wm5/6.
5. not sure its a big thing, but maybe a basic firewall is needed.
6. an option less integration with gmail (not good for corporations who have security concerns)
7. reader/editor for office 2k7 documents
8. remote desktop (windows, osX, linux)
9. maybe bundling all the buisness features as a single software pack (that does not need to be included with all sold phones if not many people are intrested) this will simplify development and updates.
10. out of box wirless 3g/edge modem or something similar to WiFiRouter.
that's what i can think of for now. feel free to repost this in a more visible android forum
well then don't get it
whats with the hostility. I'm just trying to make android a more attractive platform by highlighting its business shortcomings.
if we can get developers interested in developing these kind of apps early in its life to make it more corporate friendly it would be great.
taking care of business and core features are far more important than cool 'n' pointless apps that the iphone seems to be handling pretty well.
more stuff:
8. remote desktop (windows, osX, linux)
9. maybe bundling all the business features as a single software pack (that does not need to be included with all sold phones if not many people are interested) this will simplify development and updates.
10. out of box wireless 3g/edge modem or something similar to WiFiRouter.
since it's linux I have no doubt that most of your worries will be addressed. I know Linux has a remote desktop app but the question is will the android run non-java apps? Will it have GCC and some libs? Can we download GCC and some libs to our microSDHC cards? Will SSH work? Will the android GUI have X11-like network support? I am not much of a programmer but if the android has gcc and libs I will be doing some compiling of linux apps.
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since it's linux I have no doubt that most of your worries will be addressed. I know Linux has a remote desktop app but the question is will the android run non-java apps? Will it have GCC and some libs? Can we download GCC and some libs to our microSDHC cards? Will SSH work? Will the android GUI have X11-like network support? I am not much of a programmer but if the android has gcc and libs I will be doing some compiling of linux apps.
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Im about 95% certain that all apps run inside android's java environment. Therefore any existing opensource application would have to be ported over to the specifications of android's java language.
Android as an operating system is just a linux executable binary. Think of it like X server. Android is just a GUI, but as of now everything that runs in that GUI has to be specifically written for android.
It may be possible to run seperate tty sessions... and that could allow you to run some sort of server in the background behind android that you could access from inside of android via a web browser (http://127.0.0.1 aka localhost style)
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Im about 95% certain that all apps run inside android's java environment. Therefore any existing opensource application would have to be ported over to the specifications of android's java language.
Android as an operating system is just a linux executable binary. Think of it like X server. Android is just a GUI, but as of now everything that runs in that GUI has to be specifically written for android.
It may be possible to run seperate tty sessions... and that could allow you to run some sort of server in the background behind android that you could access from inside of android via a web browser (http://127.0.0.1 aka localhost style)
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yeah... that's what I thought. I was hoping that wasn't the case.... I can dream right? Maybe it will be like the Zaurus all over again and we can write an X11 environment for it.
Nr. 1, the Exchange feature was mentioned at the launch, and the official answer was "we expect developers to provide applications for that". I think that also applies to the VPN part; since it's that open and that linux-ish, there will probably be lots of VPN/VNC/RDP/SSH clients available.
3 and 4, I don't even know what they are. Stuck in a Windows-based environment, with closed specs ? tough luck. That's vendor lock-in, you know.
5 - a firewall ? what for ? Your device won't be permanently connected, and you probably won't have lots of apps listening on your phone. Anyway, a filtering module will probably appear pretty soon. I'd be more worried about installed apps making hidden outgoing connections (apps calling home, or malicious apps), therefore a good app to have would be something similar to LittleSnitch.
6 - Google has service offerings for businesses, so you either choose to use their services, or you don't. If you don't like it, you shouldn't use this phone I guess
7 - the feature will appear for sure, at least the viewer part. Not hoping of a OpenOffice port for Android, though.
This phone actually doesn't look like it was built for business use, though; just take a look at the apps who won the contest, all of them are focused on fun, socializing, location-awareness and stuff that's useful to people, not business users.
Hmm, to follow up on the Office part:
http://www.informationweek.com/news/personal_tech/smartphones/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=210604042
"We expect it to be more for the consumer, not necessarily for enterprises," says Cole Brodman, chief technology and innovation officer at T-Mobile USA.
The 4.6-by-2.1-by-0.6-inch handset, which will go on sale in the United States on Oct. 22, will let users view Word and Excel documents as well as PDFs.
a few points:
a*you didnt coment on 8-10
b*the exchange feature needs licencing from mirosoft. i doubt the development comunity can do that. unless some genius cracks the airsync protocol
c*if you are on gprs/edge/3g then the phone is Always connected to the network. that why we have things like pushmail.
d*eap-tls is the most secure type of wirless access. and it uses certificates on both the server and client. the client normally needs to be part of the domain to be able to accept the certificate
e*almost all corporations are locked down to windows. its very imortant that buisness phones integrates very well with them if it were to be considered a buisness phones
f*dont you agree that having a buisness friendly is important for the sucess of any phone platform?
g* do you think that the lack of stylus or (resistive lcd) will hinder its ability to do remote desktop? the track ball thingy enough?
Most of the above points (1, 2, 3, 4, 7, 9) will most likely be addressed by developers and sysadmins in good time. In the case of Exchange, even if the platform is opensource, it doesn't mean that a 3rd party company can't license the technology to provide a solution. It might not be pretty (at first), but I wouldn't say it's impossible.
5. It depends on what specific vulnerabilities you're concerned about, whether on the app/run level or somewhere in the core Android stack. In general I doubt there's any issue that doesn't already exist on other mobile OSes, and given their respective solutions, the same is possible here. But if you have a specific concern in mind it would help to point it out.
6, 9. Google is certainly pushing its suite of apps and for good reason (because a lot of consumers use them), but given the open nature of the platform nothing is cemented in place. So while the G1 comes setup for use with gmail/gcal/maps/etc, there's nothing that says a sysadmin can't strip and replace. Moreover, the G1 isn't being pushed as an enterprise device in the first place; there's every possibility that carriers could release other handset models later, preloaded with more business-centric software packages (and less Google apps), and are simply holding off during Android's initial launch. If you think about it, Android has a much better chance of having a strong launch on the consumer front than on the enterprise front. Take care of the former first, then the latter has a better chance of long-term success.
8, g. Same as above, but Google is also pushing the cloud which could lessen the need for VNC/RDP/etc. Sysadmins will have their doubts about security in Google's cloud, but there's nothing that says they can't first observe the model and then later implement their own solution.
10. Not as much of an issue with the software as it is with the carrier. T-mobile isn't just launching Android, it's also launching its 3G network. Providing tethering out-of-the-box could seriously cripple the network in its infancy, and that's the last thing the US 3G market needs. Face it, we need good competition to force carriers to pick up the pace, and in time we could see some competing tethering plans between AT&T, T-mobile, et al.
Some thoughts in general:
Businesses may currently be invested in Windows Mobile for their mobile solutions, but the point isn't to take Android and simply turn it into WinMo -- that would be a wasted opportunity. WinMo users are effectively tied to their PC in one way or another (sync, RDP, svn, tether, etc). Android has the chance to push the cloud (among other innovative models), so that users are no longer dependent on existing workflows. The handset would become just a terminal for accessing the cloud, and transition between terminals would be completely transparent (Android on a phone? How about a netbook?). Not that I expect Android to overtake WinMo (or BES et al), but it gives companies more solutions that better fit their individual needs, and helps MS, RIM, etc start evolving the existing systems that are frankly getting dated.
thanks that was quite insightful
i would like to point out that a big portion (probably the biggest) of the android users only bought the G1 phone because of its great value. think about it the unlocked $399 G1 has more features than the $700 touch diamond. most of these people couldn't care less about what google have in mind for the platform. all they want is for their phone to do certain tasks (like exchange email) a lot of the other google-pushed tasks will probably be unused
I think for you personally, the #1 most important feature the G1 >>needs<< to have is spellcheck
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...hostiliy...hilighting...buisness...intrested..
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t mobile is a poor businesses Carrier
most of the big business i have seen use at&t
once tmobile 3g network become more mature they might get some more of the business market. but until they iron out the wrinkles in there new 3g network don't expect anything from tmobile. i don't think you want something like the iphone bill happening to all you business customers.
this is the first step tmobile has taken towards 3g in the US
i am sure there will be some stumbles.
I'm not 100% sure, but I think the Active Sync protocol needed for Exchange support is free to use from Microsoft. I see a LOT of it in many 3rd party email servers and applications. Many of which are in direct competition with Microsoft. So I think we can assume that Active Sync is very doable on the Android platform. Only needs a developer to do something about it.
Active Sync is my main concern too. Once that's in place, then some way to tether I'm getting me an Android phone quickly.
All the other concerns are too easy to fix either already or very soon, so the 2 problems I mentioned are the only show stoppers for me.
There currently isn't even a foolproof activesync drop-in replacement for Linux desktop distros. There's multisync and synCE, but they're both hard to install, hard to configure, and far from perfect in their implementation. As for getting it working under Android, like everything else, it's probably a wait-and-see situation. Most software for Linux isn't written in Java (which Android prefers/requires?) It'll be interesting to see if a java implementation of activesync software could happen.
does any1 know if the g1 has an on screen keyboard
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does any1 know if the g1 has an on screen keyboard
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Currenly, no. The demo and preview vids show that you need to open the hardware keyboard in order to type (except for the phone dialer). But I'm sure SIPs will show up pretty quickly.
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Currenly, no. The demo and preview vids show that you need to open the hardware keyboard in order to type (except for the phone dialer). But I'm sure SIPs will show up pretty quickly.
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Yeah, I hope they change that. When I had the Fuze I never liked pulling out the keyboard unless I have to type something long, an email or a long text or whatever. For normal web browsing, entering 1 URL, it's not worth it to slide it open, type and close it again.
my biggest concern is an appointment calender. im so reliant on my appointment calander ion my Kaiser... i wouldnt know what to do without it. Also, a way to sync files would be great. maybe the phone will be integrated with Google Docs? That would be SUPERB! I take notes in my college classes using Office Mobile, but if Android syncs with Google Docs... good lawd.. goodbye to WinMo!
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my biggest concern is an appointment calender. im so reliant on my appointment calander ion my Kaiser... i wouldnt know what to do without it. Also, a way to sync files would be great. maybe the phone will be integrated with Google Docs? That would be SUPERB! I take notes in my college classes using Office Mobile, but if Android syncs with Google Docs... good lawd.. goodbye to WinMo!
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Here's a video showing how well it syncs everything.
Say goodbye, WinMo
Had a quick search, couldn't find anything, sorry if it's a repeat..
Anyway, I love my HD, it's a cracking bit of kit, but I'm finding the lack of support for many things (take flash player streaming on BBC over HDSPA for example) really quite frustrating, not least as the youtube app works so well - which leads me to the bigger picture.
Apple have the appstore for their i-phone, a place where you can find all the applets for the phone - surely HTC or Miscro$oft should be looking at something similar for their range of phones/OS?
Am I missing a trick here? Have I missed the HTC/WinMo equivalent?
I think you mean something like " Cydia " for the IPhone.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKerR-P-jGQ
That would be cool. I thought about the same thing at the Weekend. Why should we not have a universal download Program for all the Freeware in our Windows Mobile based machine.
Free Cabs
I Think this can help not program but helpful
http://www.freecabs.de
Mrahman
Microsoft are developing this, it is called Windows Mobile Marketplace
http://client.marketplace.windowsmobile.com/
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Microsoft are developing this, it is called Windows Mobile Marketplace
http://client.marketplace.windowsmobile.com/
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Thanks - nothing like leading the market eh Microsoft?
How long has windows mobile been a common smartphone/PDA operating system now?
There are loads of websites giving free CABs for all kinds of programmes. Because Windows Mobile doesn't have a central 'approval' thing like Apple do, anyone can write ANY kind of program for WM phones. Apple decide what makes it onto their phone and what doesn't, hence the need for their centralised AppStore.
Try this: www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi (from your mobile). Lots of good stuff
Or this: http://msmvps.com/blogs/nunoluz/archive/2009/04/09/pocket-gear-now-has-own-appstore.aspx
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There are loads of websites giving free CABs for all kinds of programmes. Because Windows Mobile doesn't have a central 'approval' thing like Apple do, anyone can write ANY kind of program for WM phones. Apple decide what makes it onto their phone and what doesn't, hence the need for their centralised AppStore.
Try this: www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi (from your mobile). Lots of good stuff
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I am aware of the numerous places where the software is available, and long may that continue, as it means independent developers can continue their excellent work, but with the Apple model you have a 'one stop shop', accessible directly from a simple app on the phone that gives you simple access to many 'official' applets.
Whilst I'll always be looking at the independent sector, following the recommendations from places such as this site (and what an excellent resource it is!), there really needs to be a central, 'approved' market place for the mass-market apps, and so that developers can see a genuine, financially viable reason to develop for the platform, something that isn't really there at the moment in the fractured, unfocused model we currently have.
And how are developers going to benefit from being ripped off by a company like Apple or MS twice - once in the form of rubberstamping their work, and then in the form of a sales commission?
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And how are developers going to benefit from being ripped off by a company like Apple or MS twice - once in the form of rubberstamping their work, and then in the form of a sales commission?
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In the same way most companies do...
The point of the central depository is that people looking for apps look there, is it not?
http://appstore.pocketgear.com
Hello everyone. My trial of OfficeSuite5 has ended. Too bad I never actually used it during the trial period LOL
Well now its time to either pay up or use something else. I've looked at a couple of reviews and they suggest QuickOffice HD Pro as the best app for tablets as its the only one which is designed for tablets.
Well the Note though capable isn't much of a tablet. So perhaps an elephantised phone app is still best for us?
I have no objections paying $15 for an Office App. What are your thoughts on which is best on the Note?
Best Office Suite
Quick Office Pro 5 is the best. That plus EZPDF Reader will allow you to deal with Word, Excel, PowerPoint, and PDF files. EZPDF program is excellent and allows you to edit pdf files.
It really depends what you expect from your Office application. If you need to share documents and edit complex ones, I wouldn't call any Android Office suite a mature one. If you only need to edit relatively simple documents, both options you mention might be OK. If I were you, I wouldn't buy either without a good test drive, though.
The biggest problem is compatibility with more complex formatting (and formulas). Quite often opening a document in a mobile office suite and saving it back means changed or lost formatting. So when you open the document on your PC you may be in for a surprise. So far Dataviz's DocsToGo have been best in this respect - their technology (aptly called "Intact") leaves all formating intact - so even if the mobile app doesn't understand more complex formatting (footnotes, tables, anchored text etc.), it doesn't destroy it.
Alternatively, there is a German company, having a very good Windows Mobile Office suite: Softmaker Office (they have a website both in English and German). This suite has always been much more powerful than other mobile solutions. On their website it is mentioned that they are preparing a version for Android, but it is not ready yet (not even a public beta!). So you may keep this suite in mind for future consideration and meanwhile buy just the software that is good enough for basic purposes.
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It really depends what you expect from your Office application. If you need to share documents and edit complex ones, I wouldn't call any Android Office suite a mature one. If you only need to edit relatively simple documents, both options you mention might be OK. If I were you, I wouldn't buy either without a good test drive, though.
The biggest problem is compatibility with more complex formatting (and formulas). Quite often opening a document in a mobile office suite and saving it back means changed or lost formatting. So when you open the document on your PC you may be in for a surprise. So far Dataviz's DocsToGo have been best in this respect - their technology (aptly called "Intact") leaves all formating intact - so even if the mobile app doesn't understand more complex formatting (footnotes, tables, anchored text etc.), it doesn't destroy it.
Alternatively, there is a German company, having a very good Windows Mobile Office suite: Softmaker Office (they have a website both in English and German). This suite has always been much more powerful than other mobile solutions. On their website it is mentioned that they are preparing a version for Android, but it is not ready yet (not even a public beta!). So you may keep this suite in mind for future consideration and meanwhile buy just the software that is good enough for basic purposes.
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Nice reply.
It surely depends on what you expect from your office application. Thus recommendations would vary based on preferences.
Of all the available office apps I found Documents to Go as the best one. It keeps the format INTACT and I found that it's the only app that can open PASSWORD PROTECTED files which was important for me.
Softmaker Office Beta testing for Android
macminer said:
Alternatively, there is a German company, having a very good Windows Mobile Office suite: Softmaker Office (they have a website both in English and German). This suite has always been much more powerful than other mobile solutions. On their website it is mentioned that they are preparing a version for Android, but it is not ready yet (not even a public beta!). So you may keep this suite in mind for future consideration and meanwhile buy just the software that is good enough for basic purposes.
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To get Softmaker Office Beta register to Softmaker forum , then ask for access at this thread
OfficeSuite5 is trial for...?
I got Smart Office and i think it's a great solution because it's a great app, which allows you to create/edit word/excel/powerpoint.. data
Just try
I use polaris office, and it working very well
Polaris is simpler....but way easier to generate documents from.
User friendly A+....best in Android
I recommend DocumentsToGo. It has good editing capabilities and easy access to cloud services.
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can some one suggest an app that allows one to
edit / form new tables in power point
edit / insert images in powerpoint
edit / form bar charts / pie charts in powerpoint / excel files
form / edit ODT docs
read / edit rtf documents
edit pdfs
is it possible to do this on any one app
I have got docs 2 go and ezpdf and open office reader now but will buy any other that is better
for databases which is better handbase or memento. presently have handbase.
My vote goes to Officesuite.. Based totally on the speed of the application.. Its fast.. And got everything i need..
Ultimately some kind of virtualisation or hosted solution would do the trick, if you are on an unlimited fast dataplan. Or you could just run the fullfletched suite from your own computer. Logmein is good, but requires your PC turned on to function as a server. Used to do that back in 2006 and acces it throught Wifi in college on my htc lmao.
If your company has cytrix I think it should also be easy. They must have an Android client to connect.
There is also splashtop, free on getjar. However I dont think it has an office suit build in. It is the only virtualisation client I do know of targetted at consumers.
Did you try Microsoft office 360 or just plain google docs? Maybe they can cater your office needs through a browser
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I use PowerOffice. Its free on the Samsung market. You just have to have a fast data plan, as its a virtualization solution. You can access your files via Email or Dropbox. Please go to the Samsung market for further information, I'm writing this from my Note and am kinda lazy atm
Also try Kingston office which has gone free on the market
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RTF Support
Hi all,
Don't mean to hijack a thread especially as it's fairly old now but does anyone know an office app that can at least read RTF files?
I do a bit of work for one company that sends all their work in RTF files.
I'd be happy just to be able to open/Read/Print them
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I use polaris office, and it working very well
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Polaris office does not handle formulas with the IF function in Excel correctly. Documents To Go is my recommendation.
I really need am office app that will let you annotate...
Ezpdf works quite well for annotating pdfs, but I want to do that to powerpoint and word documents...
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I don't get it. Polaris Office comes with nearly all Galaxy phones. Why do we need another paid office?
Porlaris Excel has a big problem. It can't read most formulae. It turn them into literal values. However, it seems it only fails when handling XLSX (Office 2007) documents. If I save to XLS (Office 2003) format, then it does everything fine.
I believe I've tried Kingsoft, but it has exactly the same problem as Polaris.
One app to avoid is Smart Office+, at least not the current version. It thinks that Note is a tablet and displays an HD UI. You won't be able to do anything with the tiny toolbar. There is not yet any method to manually choose among the two UI in the suite.
cliver said:
Hi all,
Don't mean to hijack a thread especially as it's fairly old now but does anyone know an office app that can at least read RTF files?
I do a bit of work for one company that sends all their work in RTF files.
I'd be happy just to be able to open/Read/Print them
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I bought adobe convert to pdf app from the market for the same problem.
This app allowed me to upload for conversion to pdf the rtf file and within seconds I got back the pdf version and formatting looked like the original.the website does not save the original by the looks of it. The app worked fine for me on this instance but some of the reviews are not good but most of those reviews seem to be for converting website links.
So, first post here..
Firstly, I have used Windows Mobile 6 Professional since it came out, and before that, 5, and before that, i was on mobile 2003..
I stopped being interested in Windows Phones when HTC abandoned their loyal customers to try and create that little iPhone experience, which for some reason doesnt seem to get old for some people.. ever..
the last phone i bought was a Jasjam, and its what i still use, after giving up on the phenomenon completely, and only use my phone for calling & sms anymore..
I still wouldnt buy a phone today, as there is no phone on the market i like.. and i dont care for Android... I'd like to wait for the Firefox OS.. but business duties call.. and I need to get a new phone..
I walked into a Nokia shop today, and looked at the 920, opened it up, i totally hate the Windows 8 experience.. HATE... but I tried to look past that crap and go right to the Office Programs.. office 2013... wow.. u'd think that was pretty advanced by now... i mean.. u would, right?
I opened it up and to my dismay, found an Office that was intentionally missing most all basic office functionality..
Word functions like a freebie text editor..
there is no way to add even so much as a single bullet point to your word document without opening a specific "outline" template" which is populated with 50 random useless bullets..
So... The way i see it.. Office mobile 8 is intentionally designed without 1/10 of the functionally office mobile users had in windows mobile 2003, for the sole purpose of forcing people to upload all of their documents to Microsoft cloud drive, so they can look over the world's documents, and take from it a profitable future business plan for themselves.. stealing users information & privacy, & Plans which influence the world, from the world's thinkers.. as they obviously cant think for themselves
It doesn't have Bullet Points OR Numbered Points? really? things found in 2003? no tab, no outline format detection, no toolbar, literally NOTHING any business user or thinker would need..
its more useless than your average plain text editor
obviously, taking away such very basic tools forces them to use cloud services.. giving you access to what marketing, development, and R&D teams would die for.. an endless stream of private personal & corporate information
they thereby create an experience the end user hates so much, he/she resorts to things like Microsoft cloud services.. their office 365, and their own windows 8 tablet
trying to increase sales of their office 365 cloud products, giving everyone access to their documents ONLY if our personal data is first transferred through their own online servers for review, inspection, idea fraud, & theft
and if the customer doesn't like that options, he is then forced into option 2, spend money on a Windows 8 tablet device, and learn to carry it around along with their Windows 8 phone, again, just to be able to do the very most basic of office-related things
Office mobile has taken 20 steps backwards, and does not do ANYTHING that at least 10 other office Substitutes can do way better on Android or iPhone
Powerpoint cant even create a simple slide, a function at least 10 other office alternatives can do on Android & iPhone..
these are the cheapest, dirtiest tactics available to a CEO.. Steve Ballmer should be fired
why dont they give us all a Windows7-like experience on the Mobile phone, and re-take the Lion's share of the market... rather than letting Stevie Ballmer tank the entire company with his little hair-salon tactics
They need to stop trying to force their Windows8 agenda down everyone's throats, and try giving users an experience just for the sake of a good experience.. or does that not compute with their 1950's-style corporate planning?
Why dont they try creating a Windows phone that is as useful and functional and welcoming as the Windows 7 platform itself.. that's what we want
an OFFICE which functions at least similarly to the Competitions handling of MS's own Office files & formats..
and something which says "2013", not "1913"
honestly, their office 13 for windows 8 phones belongs more in a horse & buggy setting, than in direct competition with companies like HTC, Android, Samsung & iPhone
I went into a phone shop ready to buy a Windows8 phone today, opened office.. and walked out contemplating switching to Apple OS for my Desktop computing
Anyone Have Any Solutions?
Does anyone know if Programs like:
Kingsoft Office
Dataviz Documents to Go
Thinkfree Office Mobile
Google Docs
Quickoffice Pro
Mobile Office
etc...
Work with Windows 8 Mobile as found on Nokia 920?
I would like to get rid of that crappy office thing on the 920 and replace it with something useful
or does anyone know of a full-functioning, feature-rich Office Substitute?
I would like it to:
- Be able to Create PPT Slide shows, Edit them, Re-order them, Play & Control them, etc..
- Have complex Word Docx & Excel XLSX Creation & Editing functions, with lots of options & toolbars, etc
- Be Intuitive and make good use of space & movements etc
- Function similarly to Windows Office 2003, AT LEAST
thanks
vetvito said:
Nope absolutely no alternatives on WP8
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not entirely true..
I found software called "Pix2PPT" to Create PPT Slideshows on your Windows Phone 8 from photos, images, or graphics you have on your phone...
You can Add Text Titles & Subtitles, Change Orientation, & Edit Transition Timing
You can save or Upload the Slideshow..
I dont know how customizable the text is, but at least its something worth looking into..
You may be able to find something to save a text file as an Image, and then import it as a pic... maybe.. i dunno
The free version is fully functional but limited to 5 slides..
but it only costs 1.99
anyway.. we'll see of the software community bothers making anything for winP8 or not..
I tend to believe microsofts own self-imposed limitations will equate to their own self-imposed rejection & failure
another note about Google.. I have over 8,000 unread messages in my Gmail inbox, with no way of marking them all as read or deleting them all without going through over 80 pages one by one..
they've been there for years... i dont care what they say.. I want them gone..
i mean.. what kind of company does that to people?
I've complained about that to google about 20 times SINCE Gmail was in its early beta testing stage..
ridiculous..
so.. i'm thinking Googles just another Microsoft.. too big and self-inflated to care about making things useful or enjoyable for people.. and just hell bent on doing things their own way
Megalomania & Narcissism seem to be 2 mandatory qualities to running a software company
chinarabbit said:
another note about Google.. I have over 8,000 unread messages in my Gmail inbox, with no way of marking them all as read or deleting them all without going through over 80 pages one by one..
they've been there for years... i dont care what they say.. I want them gone..
i mean.. what kind of company does that to people?
I've complained about that to google about 20 times SINCE Gmail was in its early beta testing stage..
ridiculous..
so.. i'm thinking Googles just another Microsoft.. too big and self-inflated to care about making things useful or enjoyable for people.. and just hell bent on doing things their own way
Megalomania & Narcissism seem to be 2 mandatory qualities to running a software company
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You can fix this pretty quick:
1. login to gmail
2. go to settings >filters > Create new
3. in the to field, put your email address
4. Click create filter with this search
5. Check the box for mark as read - along with any other bulk action you'd like (skip inbox, etc)
6. Check the box for "also apply this filter to X matching conversations
7. Click create filter
8. It will take a little time to process
9. Go back to settings > filters and delete the filter
10. Fresh start!
It's a bit of a process and any incoming messages while you have the filter active may also fall victim to the same process, so be sure to check your "All Mail" view after you delete the filter to make sure you don't miss anything.
After this, you can create filters for junk email that you dont need to actually read as they come - I have all those online shopping emails going into a label, banking into another, family, etc. I rarely get an email in my inbox that doesn't require my attention and response.
And yes, setting up filters and labels is a lot of work, but I think the idea behind this is that it's customizable for any user's needs - the user just has to take the initiative.
Hope this helps!
qocarekeri said:
You can fix this pretty quick:
1. login to gmail
2. go to settings >filters > Create new
3. in the to field, put your email address
4. Click create filter with this search
5. Check the box for mark as read - along with any other bulk action you'd like (skip inbox, etc)
6. Check the box for "also apply this filter to X matching conversations
7. Click create filter
8. It will take a little time to process
9. Go back to settings > filters and delete the filter
10. Fresh start!
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WHOA HOHO!!
wow.. that was awesome!
I hated Gmail for the longest time..
I cant believe they are finally all gone..
thanks alot.. that was solid...
Hey... qocarekeri.... do u work for QuickOffice?
do you know if there are any plans to make QuickOffice Pro available for Windows Phone 8?
thanks..
chinarabbit said:
Hey... qocarekeri.... do u work for QuickOffice?
do you know if there are any plans to make QuickOffice Pro available for Windows Phone 8?
thanks..
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I'm glad you <3 gmail again - it's a pretty neat tool
I do work for Google on the Quickoffice team (I'm the support manager ). We don't have any specific plans that we can share at this time - we're not able to comment on product plans until the information is officially made public. If we do announce plans one way or the other, we'll definitely post updates on our social pages (Google +, Facebook, & Twitter).
Wow this thread got a lot shorter when all the rambling/ranting and uselessness was weeded out. I left the one bit of information that might be useful to someone someday. Closing this now. Everyone behave in the future.
Thanks,
-DSB