Ok so I was looking online at the HTC site and see its says:
Network HSPA/WCDMA:
* Europe: 2100 MHz
* US:1700/2100 MHz
* Up to 7.2 Mbps down-link (HSDPA) and 2 Mbps up-link (HSUPA) speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
* 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
I honestly do not know what everything means but I know that ATT's 3G runs off of 850 and 1900....am I correct?
If I am then the ATT 3G should work correct? I am trying to figure this all out because I may pick a G1 up tomorrow with my little brothers account seeing that I am with ATT as of now in order to get the Touch Pro.
THANKS
No it will not work on att 3g
well i guess its not down to if I want a phone with no 3G?
Think its worth not having 3G?
No dude, get a phone with 3G. Honestly when I'm stuck in an EDGE area with my G1 it's too slow for me to do much more then IM and stuff, I almost always switch to my Sprint rev. a pda when out of 3G. Also, more and more services will come out that use 3G and you don't wanna get stuck behind the curve.
Valicore said:
No dude, get a phone with 3G. Honestly when I'm stuck in an EDGE area with my G1 it's too slow for me to do much more then IM and stuff, I almost always switch to my Sprint rev. a pda when out of 3G. Also, more and more services will come out that use 3G and you don't wanna get stuck behind the curve.
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I've had my G1 for two days now and I am in an edge area (no 3G). I'm sure it is alot slower than 3G, but my phone is fully capable of doing anything that it is suspose to. Loading a webpage takes less than 10 seconds. Loading apps from the Market have taken me less than a minute. I'd say this phone is very capable if only on Edge.
doctahjeph said:
I've had my G1 for two days now and I am in an edge area (no 3G). I'm sure it is alot slower than 3G, but my phone is fully capable of doing anything that it is suspose to. Loading a webpage takes less than 10 seconds. Loading apps from the Market have taken me less than a minute. I'd say this phone is very capable if only on Edge.
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I am also in an edge area (3G starts a few miles away). I cannot stream podcasts, but tbh the only time I find myself doing that is when I'm stuck at the airport. Websites load up quick enough...
Right now 3G coverage is only absolutely required if you are tethering or streaming media. I have wifi for my off time at home so no biggie. Now I know there will be some apps that will require that kind of bandwidth, but hopefully tmo will have expanded 3g to my area by then.
Hello,
I was just wondering if
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe: 2100 MHz / US:1700/2100 MHz
means the G1 has both the frequencies for Europe and for the US
or it is sold in 2 Versions.
Does anybody know?
Thanks
rudoe said:
Hello,
I was just wondering if
HSDPA/WCDMA: Europe: 2100 MHz / US:1700/2100 MHz
means the G1 has both the frequencies for Europe and for the US
or it is sold in 2 Versions.
Does anybody know?
Thanks
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The G1 is dual-band UMTS; there's only one version.
A tip though, NEVER use frequencies to refer to UMTS bands; they're confusing and ambiguous. Always use the numbered bands.
AT&T uses bands II and V, T-Mobile USA uses band IV, and Europe uses band I.
The G1 supports bands I and IV.
All AT&T 3G phones support II and V, some support band I in addition.
Here's a good article listing the UMTS bands:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
There are NO phones to my knowledge which support BOTH bands IV and II or V.
What that means is that you can follow a simple rule, at least for the time being:
If it supports T-Mobile USA 3G, it doesn't support AT&T 3G.
If it supports AT&T 3G, it doesn't support T-Mobile USA 3G.
This topics has been discussed all over this forum:
G1 to use on AT&T
OTA updates on AT&T
Current ATT user, can I activate a G1?
I found way around intial setup screen!! AT&T Users
EDGE/GPRS/3G Questions/Issues/Info
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Have a great weekend all.
I live in the U.S. Virgin Islands.
We have AT&T wireless 850 band 3g.
I want to buy this phone but the idea of not being able to get 3g on it is scaring me.
I heard it has 850 band 3g built in but it is turned off by htc.
Is this true?
Do it have a crack?
Can you tell me what i can do?
There are 2 versions of this phone:
1) The T8282, which doesn't not have the 850 capability at all (not even crippled). This phone will not work at 3G speeds down there, if you're only on 850.
2) The T8285 (Telstra - Australia) version, which does have the 850 capability. You can find them on eBay - and they're generally a little more expensive. I live in the US - and own this version. The only problem I have in Chicago though is that AT&T also uses their 1900 frequency in many areas downtown. I only get Edge speeds down there, but as soon as I'm outside that area and close to an 850 tower, I get 3G speeds again.
Good luck!
It would not be the first time HTC did that.
Remember the touch diamond.
here in canada we got a new phone provider called wind mobile that operates a 1700mhz UMTS network (not 100% sure) my td2 didn't work on it but i was wondering if its possible to flash a radio rom that would let me connect to their network. they have unlimited data plans you see, a first for us because rogers is painfully expensive.
also if someone could confirm that my td2 would work with rogers' hspa network because right now im not using 3g and have no way of knowing if ill get full speed (not edge) if i get a data plan.
hope someone here can answer me, thx in advance!
HSDPA/WCDMA:
Europe/Asia: 900/2100 MHz
Up to 2 Mbps up-link and 7.2 Mbps down-link speeds
Quad-band GSM/GPRS/EDGE:
Europe/Asia: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz
(Band frequency, HSUPA availability, and data speed are operator dependent.)
Straight from HTC's website.
ok so if rogers is on 850/1900 HSDPA and the TD2 supports those frequencies under GSM (not hsdpa - thats what it says): the question is will it work?
and im guessing theres no way to make it support 1700mhz even with the most intense hacking am i rite?
You're right
UMTS frequency cannot be altered by software hacks, it's hardware dependent
ok so i just got data (fido network) and im stuck on the edge network. using HTC's default 6.5 rom. is there anyway i can get hspa speeds on this thing??
Hi,
I bought MyTouch 4g from US and unlock it. Now, I am using the same in India. The problem is that I cannot connect to 3g network in india.
I googled and found that MyTouch 4g recognize 1900 MHz frequency as 2g and in India, 3g works on that frequency.
Is it possible to make MyTouch 4g listen for 3g on 1900 MHz? Is it possible thru Radio rewrite or something?
felix.christy said:
Hi,
I bought MyTouch 4g from US and unlock it. Now, I am using the same in India. The problem is that I cannot connect to 3g network in india.
I googled and found that MyTouch 4g recognize 1900 MHz frequency as 2g and in India, 3g works on that frequency.
Is it possible to make MyTouch 4g listen for 3g on 1900 MHz? Is it possible thru Radio rewrite or something?
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My friend has the same phone. Got it from US and 3g is working with Airtel. Make sure that your sim is 3G ready. If it is old then it wont even search any network when in 3G mode. MyTouch 4g supports 2100 MHz. Airtel and every other 3g operator also uses the same Bandwidth in India. You don't need any radio flashing.
sagarparmar said:
My friend has the same phone. Got it from US and 3g is working with Airtel. Make sure that your sim is 3G ready. If it is old then it wont even search any network when in 3G mode. MyTouch 4g supports 2100 MHz. Airtel and every other 3g operator also uses the same Bandwidth in India. You don't need any radio flashing.
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Hi Sagar! Thanks for the reply, I took my friend's sim (which is almost a year old), and tried but no luck , I checked the airtel site and they claim that to use 3g, you do not required new sim, the old one works.
I am really confused!
felix.christy said:
Hi Sagar! Thanks for the reply, I took my friend's sim (which is almost a year old), and tried but no luck , I checked the airtel site and they claim that to use 3g, you do not required new sim, the old one works.
I am really confused!
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The myTouch 4G is designed to use on the T-Mobile network with HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
The 3G network in some countries will be different. You should have this frequency to enjoy 3G service.
This is preset in the hardware itself, so can't change by flashing Radio. Try using some other carrier sim cards.
Always remember to ensure the compatibility of the carrier before purchasing the phone.
ummm , probably i got the same problem
im in china and when i connect to 3g network the phone displays 4g icon on the top ....
dysquare said:
ummm , probably i got the same problem
im in china and when i connect to 3g network the phone displays 4g icon on the top ....
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That's not a problem. myTouch 4G is designed for T-Mobile HSPA+ Network.
If your phone displays 4G icon, it means that you are having an HSPA+ network (speed > 14.2 Mbps)
I think you are on China Unicom network, if yes you can enjoy high speed network same as T-Mobile.
febycv said:
The myTouch 4G is designed to use on the T-Mobile network with HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
The 3G network in some countries will be different. You should have this frequency to enjoy 3G service.
This is preset in the hardware itself, so can't change by flashing Radio. Try using some other carrier sim cards.
Always remember to ensure the compatibility of the carrier before purchasing the phone.
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Hi, Thanks for the reply, the carrier that I am using has 3g frequency on 2100 Mhz and as you said, mytouch 4g supports that
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
so, technically, I should get the 3g service, right?
felix.christy said:
Hi, Thanks for the reply, the carrier that I am using has 3g frequency on 2100 Mhz and as you said, mytouch 4g supports that
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
so, technically, I should get the 3g service, right?
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Technically i think it holds good....may be some other compatibility aspect.
I suggest to use the carrier TATA DOCOMO, since they use the advanced technology of NTT DOCOMO, JAPAN
Go through this Wikipedia link. Try changing the carrier sim until you reach the compatibile one.
felix.christy said:
Hi, Thanks for the reply, the carrier that I am using has 3g frequency on 2100 Mhz and as you said, mytouch 4g supports that
HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
so, technically, I should get the 3g service, right?
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Technically you should but may be you are in an area where there is no 3g coverage? Just guessing.
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Yeah, manish might be right. Check whether 3g network is there and make sure that in settings->wireless n networks->use only 2g network is unchecked.
it should work. I don't see a prob with the phone as it worls here in Karnataka. Try using vodafone 3g too.
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Hey Felix,
Just now I asked my friend (who owns MT4G) about airtel 3G in Ahmedabad. Airtel 3g is not yet deployed there it seems. That's what he told. He is getting 3G here in Bangalore but when he visited he dint get 3g. Vodafone has 3G there I guess.
No issues with phone I guess.
BTW, I am Diana's classmate.
you can find my email address in some of her forwards
sagarparmar said:
Hey Felix,
Just now I asked my friend (who owns MT4G) about airtel 3G in Ahmedabad. Airtel 3g is not yet deployed there it seems. That's what he told. He is getting 3G here in Bangalore but when he visited he dint get 3g. Vodafone has 3G there I guess.
No issues with phone I guess.
BTW, I am Diana's classmate.
you can find my email address in some of her forwards
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See, world is too small!
Back to the point! My wife has HTC G2 (HTC GSM Hero) bought from India only, she is getting Airtel 3g, and I am not! ,
In any case, I am going to get a new sim card tomorrow, and also, I am going to check 3g service with TATA DOCOMO, as I checked with them and they are providing 3g services on HSDPA 2100 Mhz.
So, let me do these test cases and will let update you!
Thanks,
Felix
felix.christy said:
See, world is too small!
Back to the point! My wife has HTC G2 (HTC GSM Hero) bought from India only, she is getting Airtel 3g, and I am not! ,
In any case, I am going to get a new sim card tomorrow, and also, I am going to check 3g service with TATA DOCOMO, as I checked with them and they are providing 3g services on HSDPA 2100 Mhz.
So, let me do these test cases and will let update you!
Thanks,
Felix
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Read somewhere that Airtel has 900 Mhz band in some circle. It might deploy 3g in that band in some circle where it dint win 2100 Mhz band e.g. Gujarat. Tata Vodafone Idea won 2100 band for Gujarat.
It seems Airtel deployed 3G on 900 MHz band in Gujarat. your wife is getting 3G with the phone which has WCDMA 900/2100 Freq band support. MT4G has WCDMA 1700/2100 but you are not getting 3G. so logical conclusion is Airtel has deployed 3G on 900 Mhz. Try switching to Vodafone/Idea. You will get 3G if this is the case.
sagarparmar said:
Read somewhere that Airtel has 900 Mhz band in some circle. It might deploy 3g in that band in some circle where it dint win 2100 Mhz band e.g. Gujarat. Tata Vodafone Idea won 2100 band for Gujarat.
It seems Airtel deployed 3G on 900 MHz band in Gujarat. your wife is getting 3G with the phone which has WCDMA 900/2100 Freq band support. MT4G has WCDMA 1700/2100 but you are not getting 3G. so logical conclusion is Airtel has deployed 3G on 900 Mhz. Try switching to Vodafone/Idea. You will get 3G if this is the case.
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The T-Mobile myTouch 4G is designed for band frequency HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
It uses HSPA+ (Evolved High-Speed Packet Access) network of T-Mobile.
Even if it's build with HSDPA technique & a maximum download speed of 14.4 Mbps,
It is termed as 4G not 3.5G because it uses the T-Mobile HSPA+ network (speed upto 42Mbps) all over the U.S.
GET THE FACTS CLEAR BEFORE YOU MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS FORUM
@above, FYI, WCDMA is the Physical layer technique for HSPA or HSPA+. So when u say it is HSPA/HSPA+ network your phone is using WCDMA for phy layer.
PLS DON'T COMMENT WHEN YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE POST.
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I had already checked on their site. It supports 1700/2100 for HSPA(+) network and doesn't support 900 MHz
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febycv said:
The T-Mobile myTouch 4G is designed for band frequency HSDPA 900 / 1700 / 2100
It uses HSPA+ (Evolved High-Speed Packet Access) network of T-Mobile.
Even if it's build with HSDPA technique & a maximum download speed of 14.4 Mbps,
It is termed as 4G not 3.5G because it uses the T-Mobile HSPA+ network (speed upto 42Mbps) all over the U.S.
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Wrong. MT4G doesn't support 900MHz band, only 1700(AWS)/2100. Refer to official HTC or T-Mo specs on their respective sites.
Additional possible reason for not having 3G is - you need the correct APNs entered to get the cellular data working.
Hi Friends,
Finally, getting 3g network (sometimes 3g and sometimes 'H') with Airtel only, I did these things
1) Change the sim card, as my sim card was around 6 years old!
2) On my carrier's site, it is not written that I need to request them to start 3g, but actually, we need to send sms '3G' to them, and then they will enable 3g network
3) I did my network mode to WCDMA only,
Some facts
- Airtel Gujarat 3G runs on 2100 Mhz
So, in nutshell
MyTouch 4g works in India with Airtel 3g network !
Thank you all!
Cheers,
Felix
felix.christy said:
Hi Friends,
Finally, getting 3g network (sometimes 3g and sometimes 'H') with Airtel only, I did these things
1) Change the sim card, as my sim card was around 6 years old!
2) On my carrier's site, it is not written that I need to request them to start 3g, but actually, we need to send sms '3G' to them, and then they will enable 3g network
3) I did my network mode to WCDMA only,
Some facts
- Airtel Gujarat 3G runs on 2100 Mhz
So, in nutshell
MyTouch 4g works in India with Airtel 3g network !
Thank you all!
Cheers,
Felix
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Haha. I told you to change the SIM at first..
Yeah, even i thought 2100 MHz should be freq as it is the same everywhere else. Plus, I was just thinkinig about 900 because airtel dint get 2100 band for Gujarat. But also read somewhere that it tied up with idea for that frequency. So all in all, all is well.
I know it's an old thread. But incase if someone still looking for clean answer on which handset to buy for indian 2G and 3G neworks.
1. Technically AT&T US should do.
2. It should be having 2100 MHz (MegaHertz) 3G HSDPA (Indian carrier use this band to DOWNSTREAM data on 3G band) + 1900 Mhz (Indian carrier use this band to UPSTREAM data for 3G)
If any one of these (HSDPA 1900 / 2100 MHz) is missing from your mobile handset, Then your 3G will not work in India.
3. 900 and 1800 and 1900 MHz for 2G / EDGE / GSM / GPRS
So in all it should be like this to cover all indian operators
General 2G Network : GSM 900 / 1800 / 1900
3G Network : HSDPA 1900 / 2100
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I have been looking everywhere and cannot find how to enable HSUPA on my LG Quantum. I know that the phone is capable according to the specifications, but it is clearly not enabled when I can get 4Mbps down stream, but only 110Kbps up stream.
Also I have a Vodafone 3g USB and using the same sim card I can get equal up and down stream. So this verifies that it is a phone issue.
Does anybody have any suggestions, or somewhere they can direct me.
Btw, My fone is flashed with Telstra rom and fully updated with WiFi-Tethering , so it would help a lot to have HSUPA enabled.
I have tested my phone with Bell ROM and Telstra ROM on the Bell network and I can get 2+Mbps upload speeds on the device with either ROM.
When tethered via wifi, it can get 3+Mbps. Haven't tried USB tethering.
You are using an ATT Quantum ? perhaps it does not have all the frequencies your vodaphone USB stick has?
Yes, Att Quantum
Yeah my phone was originally AT&T. But it should still have the frequencies I would think. I'll do a little research and find out what frequencies the USB stick has, and what frequencies Vodafone India uses.
booo.
I found that Vodafone India 3g uses the UMTS 1900MHz / 2100MHz band just as all other carriers in India.
In my research for the Lg Quantum C900 I found that the frequency specs are:
GSM:
850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
UMTS:
850, 1900, 2100 MHz
Data:
HSDPA 7.2 Mbit/s, UMTS, EDGE
But as you can see it actually doesn't seem to explicitly state a capability for HSUPA, as I had thought it did.
But you just told me you are able to get HSUPA Uplink speed. What carrier model are you using?
I am using c900b from Bell.