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SD Card Issues...

I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
T-Mobile support is ...chocolate teapot comes to mind!
Out of the box rom: 1.01.00 WWE (21/10/04)
Has anyone got any ideas about this one (greatly appreciated)
Regards
Paul

I don't know that I can comment on your specific problem, as I have a cheap 1GB SD card that works without issues. Your ROM seems to be really old, however, and you would benefit tremendously by upgrading to the 1.11 or 1.12 versions (1.11 is extremely stable and seems to be a crowd favorite). I don't know if it will resolve your SD issues, but it should at least improve other aspects of the phone. (stability, call quality, bluetooth functionality, and camera quality)

Little Survey...
Okay...i've upgraded my rom to the imate Jam 1.12 from club imate site on my MDA Compact to see if the SD card problem goes away....NO it doesn't. This is really frustrating...and the JAM rom is not as good as the tmobile one with periodic slow downs and already one reset.
Anyway folks, I want to see if I can get some correllation with rom and SD cards. So a mini survey for you all. If you have a T-mobile (originally) MDA compact and use an SD card let me know:
Current ROM Make?
Current ROM Version?
SD Card Make/Model/Capacity?
Any problems with other SD cards?
I will publish a summary for everyone later.
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sd card
i don't have a tmobile compact,
rather a qtec s100, although I got a TMobile manual in my box..
anyway, i have a 2gb 150x speed ADATA SD Card and I have exactly the same problem. If you browse this forum you will see there is one or two more other topics about the exact same issue.. dont think its anything to do with a specific vendor pda i.e. o2 / tmobile.... but rather a jam thing.
I don't think they currently recognise the latest sd cards, although, i've been told they do recognise the 2gb ultra disk from moby memory retailing at about £133.
So, we can either wait for the ROM upgrade to include the latest stuff, or swap or sell the cards and buy another one.. i'm probably doing the latter to be honest as i just cant wait.
ANyway, if you do find the problem, please let me know.
Regards,
Bushmen

Current ROM; Original T-Mobile
Other details in sig.
Have SanDisk SD 512mb, 100% fine from day one till now.

They don't seem to recognise the 2gb Moby SD...because that was my initial purchase. Then I downgraded to the 1gb. They are going to send me another 1gb from a different manufacturer. Moby are having a few of these problems cropping up.
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2 Gb GB SD doesnt works but 2GB MMC works fine... :?

MDA & SD CARD
Original MDA ROM & Radio V1.12
Bytestor 2 x 1gb hi-speed cards, no problems 100% perfect.
256mb Kingston card, today, no problems so far.

transend 1gb high speed no prob
old twin mos 256 mb card had same problem with you. but after i fomatted it with an external card reader and windows, worked perfectly. (this was used for a digital camera before)
hope this helps

PJS said:
I've just bought a 2gb 120x Moby Memory SD for my MDA Compact...and the it does not recognise it.Upon insertion it says it wants to format the card and says it formatted successfully. However I can not find the card in 'file explorer' or 'memory'. When I look in 'About/Version' it says the expansion slot is in use.
After speaking with Tech Support at Moby (Excellent) - We swapped it out for a 1Gb 80x SD card (their own)...and the same problem.
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Do the cards work fine in a PC card reader?
Does "formatting" on the MDA cause the card to be unreadable on the PC (until you reformat it on the PC)?
If so, these are the exact symptoms found on some early Magicians. If the card works in a PC, then it's a fault on the Jam/MDA, not the card, although the fault does vary by card brand. If you don't get the MDA swapped out, you could end up with it randomly wiping your card. See http://www.expansys.com/forumthread.asp?code=I-MATE_JAM&thread=153
If you don't have a PC card reader to test - get one (make sure it's USB2). Life is not long enough to transfer 2GB by activesync!

Imate Jam
My cards:
Apacer 1gb-no problems
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
Sandisk 1gb (regular)-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.

Matterhorn said:
Sandisk Ultra 2gb-no problems
For the moment it looks like if you want a 2gb card that works in your Jam, you'd better get the Sandisk Ultra 2gb.
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I can confirm, it works on my HTC Magician too, formated with Fat32 on my PC and pluged into the Magician and have full capacity available! Already filled up with 1.4GB of data (TomTom Maps mostly) Really seems the only 2GB SD card working on the Magician :roll:

See my posting here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24988&highlight=2gb+sd

1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
1GB Magu SD Card 120x Hi-speed, dint work on MDA Compact.
Works fine on PC Card reader. But shows prompt for "Format" on MDA. When formatted, it does not show in File Explorer, but About Box says explansion slot in use. This card works fine on my Orange SPV (1st model).
I am trying for 512MB 60x speed Toshiba card.

Transcend 4Gig works on Jam - WITH SHIM
The JAM is famous for having innaccurate "travel" in its SD contact mechanical design. SD cards that are not thick enough will give this symptom. The fix is to add a "shim" of plastic or paper to the contact side of the SD card.
I use the sticky part of a PostIt note. Cover the entire card area except the contacts at the bottom. Contact side only. The Transcend 4 gig card is too thin, but adding the trusty PostIt fix now allows me to use this huge ($100) card with no problems. Hope this hack fixes your SD issues too - chuse...

iMate Jas-Jar 2GB SD Card

I was looking to buy a memory card for my jas-jar and was surprised by this page on Kingston's site which says that it only supports 1GB maximum memory. Does anyone have a 2GB card here, anyone used it with their universal?
Kingston

I am using a 2Gb card no problems at all

could you tell me the company and other details of the SD card model etc?

I have a 150X 2GB ADATA SD CARD and works perfectly!! installed in an i-mate JASJAR. I bought it on ebay.

Same here, I am using a 2GB Sandisk Ultra (Black color) and no problems.

I'm Using 2GB Kingston ultimate X120 with no problem at all

Mine is 1 120x "hyper speed", "MAGU" brand card - works fine

I've read it working with a 4GB card also, worth googling to make sure.
Think I'll make that my next card if so, end of Jan.
On that point, it's ridiculous to think that my first hard drive was a massive 40MEGABYTE one in a 386 Amstrad.... here we are with something a hundred times that, the size of a postage stamp.
Madness, but GOOD madness....

My first SD card is a transcend 4GB card but I encountered problems with it. I can store and run applications normally on the 4GB card, but the camera application can't use the card as a means of storage. Thus off it went back for return. I bought the San Disk 2GB Ultra instead and never had any problems.

I can also confirm a working 2GB Ridata 150x SD working ok on my jasjar.
Had to reformat it on a pc the first time, tough, because straigth from the packaging, i only read 1gb capacity in the jasjar.
After formating, all's well!
Still, i didn't saw almost any speed increase...
I know that the device itself probably doesnt get to the top speed of the card, but...
Anyone else could post their toughts on what (if any) speed increases they had on their devices, as well as the cards brands and sizes?

4gb
mine's working fine with a 4gb transmedia card

4GB SD cards again... but Samsung?

Hi all,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI...80014389657&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWN:IT&rd=1
Some eBay store is selling 4GB OEM Samsungs (or so he claims?) for a pretty good price. Please don't scream 'SCAM!' yet until I confirm that I haven't recieved a card from him .
But the real question here is, will this work on a Magician? There are plenty of threads about Adata and Transcend but none for Samsung (yes I realise samsungs are rebranded at retails, but I doubt Adata and Transcend rebrand Samsungs?)! Note the description says 'Support SD 1.1', so hopefully that means a yes?
Thanks!
EDIT: The listing above ended a while back. Theres a newer bunch here: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/150X-4GB-OEM...hZ018QQcategoryZ93930QQtcZphotoQQcmdZViewItem

got one in my charmer but yeah they work on magicians too. tested on an imate jam using the latest 1.12 rom.

Thanks for the info, but my one doesn't seem to work in my Magician... heck it looks suspiciously fake, but I've tested it with a 3.6GB batch of files and it holds brilliantly! It works on my older Dell Axim x30, which really doesn't say anything good about the Magician's SD tech...
Well its a bit last ditch, but anyone got any ideas?
Thanks!
EDIT: dave, I found a similar post of yours on Modaco :lol:... well yea since you seem to have bought the exact same item, I was wondering if you could verify some things for me:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!

toomuchdogfur said:
- That I-mate JAM it works in. Do you know its firmware details? I tried flashing my O2 XDA II Mini to WWE_11200_128_11210_ship I-Mate but no difference, it still asks me to format the card upon insertion, and fails to format it anyway :roll: .
- Also did your SD card come with a big, ugly red sticker instead of the nice one in the pic?
Thanks!
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dont know the firmware as i dont have the phone to hand but its got the lastest rom from www.clubimate.com, as i remember i used the one with the lastest date which is either the file youve mentioned or the UK one with the same date.
my card had a green sticker on it, one which looks like its been printed on an inkjet printer and then torn rather than cut to fit the card!

Would it work with the Blueangel?????
Thanks.

Yea I've tried the latest i-mate international ROM with no success, but I'll get the UK one and try that once my download metering goes into off-peak . I hope that it is a ROM problem and not a hardware one, so then I would have at least an inkling of a chance in getting the SD to work on my XDA Mini!
As for the BlueAngel, I can only say that it won't work on a Wallaby (O2 XDA), but then again thats an era behind the BlueAngel... don't buy it until you're certain, because you won't have much fun trying to get a return from a US seller. What I can say is that its not a fake (tested it by dumping >3GB of files on it), but it does come with an ugly sticker... maybe if you ask nicely the dude will give you a choice of colour. :wink:
Blargh bloody card! Why can't you just WORK!

XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..

Re: XDA mini vs. 4gig SDCard.. Help
Still doesn't work!!! Even on UK i-mate JAM ROM. Now I'm resorting to farfetched ideas such as filling the card up to 2GB and 3GB (still in progress) and putting autorun programs on it (doesn't work). I've tried it on FAT16, FAT32 and even NTFS with no luck, partitioned it to 2GB with no results. A few more questions, if you don't mind?
- Did your i-mate prompt you to format your card upon insertion, or did it work on the get-go?
- Was it formatted or partitioned in any particular way?
oicnev said:
Hi... pls help anyone.. bought a 4gig SDCard.. first, my XDA Mini wanted me to format it being unaccessible.. then it got converted to only 2.1gig.. its working though (but at that reduced capacity!). I had it replaced (thank goodness my seller was kind).. but its prompting format again due to being unaccessible.. and cant do that again..
is there any software-fix available?
pls.. urgent need help..
thanx..
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Lucky you ! Yes I had the same issue with my Dell Axim x30, what I did was that I used paritioning software to delete the entire 2GB partition, then to paritition the entire 4GB as FAT32... and it worked! So from my view, if your PDA is able to format a certain memory card, even partially, that means it can read it whole BUT it can't format it properly. Hence you format it for it .

a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.

dream_sequence said:
a 4GB card would be sweet on a Magician
However, i read on several posts that they have poor compatibility with the Magician; or the Magician is picky on handling certain brands. I thinking of getting a 4GB MMC card [green Adata] on Ebay, because they seem to be more realiable on the Magician from what i have read.
The green Adata 200x MMC 4GB cards can read 30MB per second. Is that slower then the standard or ultra SD cards? Curious, because I've read that SD are suppose to be twice as fast as MMC cards.
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I guess you would hafta believe the speed ratings on the cards, hence I presume a 200x MMC would beat the pants of any other flash memory card under 200x, regardless of whether it was a MMC, SD, etc.
Yea I've read of poor Magician compatibility with any cards above 1GB. But what baffles and irritates me most is that dave106 has (seemingly) exactly the same bloody card working in his mate's i-mate JAM, yet my bloody thing will prompt me to format everytime - if I don't, it doesn't read, but if I do, it formats to RAW and doesn't read :? !

hmmmm... examining the 4GB card using Paragon Partition Manager gets some interesting results! Here's the card when properly formatted:
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: FAT32
Drive letter: G:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 32
Sectors / cluster: 8
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 7.7 MB ( 0%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
...and here's the card after a stint in Magician's 'format':
Code:
Partition 0, hard disk 2
Volume label:
File system: Unformatted
Drive letter: *:
Serial number: 00000000
Sectors / boot: 0
Sectors / cluster: 0
Size (capacity): 3.8 GB (4.120.833.024 )
Used space: 2048 GB (53363%)
Free space: 3.8 GB (100%)
Physical sectors:
First: 63 (Cyl 0, Hd 1, Sec 1)
Last: 8048564 (Cyl 500, Hd 254, Sec 63)
HDD info: Cyl 501, Hd 255, Sec 63
2048GB used??? Even if I delete the partition on my SD card so it becomes RAW, the used stays put at 0 bytes. It seems as though the Magician gets confused as hell when formatting this card... wonder why?

when i got the card, stuck it in the PC and it was already formatted. Put about 3.5gig of music on it and a few days later tried it out in my mates jam and it came up fine in the memory cpl and in file explorer.

Still no luck... after numerous reflashes and ideas, i've given up on this card. Thanks for all the help anyway dave! My uncle has a XDA Mini as well so I'll try it in his later.

howdy,
not too sure wether this revelation applies to your 4gb cards, but I found out many previously unrecognizable sd cards( upto two gigs) were readable once formatted with sktools.
- No, this is not a joke, try it and lets see whether it applies to 4 gig cards as well.
cheers

RE SKTools
Hi.. just tried SKTools.. I couldn't use its feature for SD Cards, it couldn't detect any SD CARD when i inserted my 4gig SD Card, but it could, when i inserted my 256MB...
But thanks,, i found it so useful for alot of my other pocket pc concerns..
HELP...

Thanks for the tip thormdac, but no luck with it either - doesn't detect the memory card on my XDA Mini, and even if i slot it into my Dell x30 (which can read the four gigs perfectly fine) it cannot format the card such so that it can be read by the Magician. BLAH!
Anyway the seller has offered me a refund, which is either very kind or very suspicious depending on your mindset but I think I'll take up the offer - after I try it in my uncle's XDA Mini on Saturday. Losing ten bucks kinda sucks though :roll:.
Oh and btw I also ran the card through this handy formatting tool from Panasonic/Matsushita - the guys who enforce the SD 1.1 standard. It only works for cards up to 2GB, though even when I partitioned the 4GB card to fit under the limits it spat out an error halfway.
On another note: Another SanDisk eBay scam
Sandisk Ultra II 4GB cards don't exist! I was going to report him, but the sneaky bastard avoided mentioning 'SanDisk' at all... plus the 1-day listing makes me suspect that his account might have been hacked. I just hink it's sad there's these scammers around since there are inevitably people who are going to get sucked in by this :x

OMG!
It worked in my uncle's XDA! In frustration, I carefully dissected my Magician with the help of my uncle only to find... errr, nothing. HOWEVER when I partially put it back together (the first two layers of the top-back panel were still off) and switched it on to test, the card bloody worked! Not knowing what I had did, I put it back together only to have it not work again! @#$!
HMMM... again I pulled off the top two layers of the rear and it worked. Eventually we figured out that if we tightened the screws on the rear panel too much, then the Magician would refuse to read the card properly. A bloody manafacturing defect. Peeling off that fat red sticker on the SD card also helped, and eventually the Magician was reliably reading the SD card!
This might go some length in explaining why 4GB SD cards won't work in the Magician while others will - the thickness of SDs may be putting too much pressure on the contacts in the slot, which are already under some pressure by the panel on top of the SD slot. The only difference between my uncle's and my XDA Mini were the bootloader versions - v1.00 and v1.02 respectively - which seems to indicate that my uncle's is an earlier model - perhaps they don't make them like they used to? Note that my XDA Mini reads every card fine BUT the 4GB - I still cannot come up with an explanation for that, considering that this reading problem seems to be a mechanical problem.
I don't know if I'm right at all, but perhaps if anyone is having problems reading SD cards in their Mini, you might want to try opening the cover above your battery panel (its plastic, held by hinges, you should be able to figure how to open it if you're brave enough) and adjusting the tightness of the screws holding the panel underneath (you WILL need a TORX screwdriver... bloody small one too, 'TORX 06').
Thanks for all your help too!

4gb Sd card not working in Imate Jam
Thanks for the tip "toomuchdogfur" untightening the screws on the back of my T mobile MDA has now allowed me to use my new 4gb SD card ,before it would constantly suggest to format card .

Hmmm... so its not a single case after all. I wonder if there are a large number of Magicians with this fault?

4gb sd in magician
Hi guys , Ihave been driven mad by the imate jam ( magician ) not recognising memory cards, so I contacted imate support and got this reply:
Dear Sir,
Thank you for your E-mail. Regarding your query, please note that the SD card standard is limited to 2 GB and our devices are fully compliant to the standard. Cards with the capacity greater than 2 GB are not compliant to the standard and we cannot guarantee that they will function correctly. As to transferring speed limit, we recommend not using ultra speed SD cards with the speed more than 64x as they either will not work or may pose problems later. Also we would like to inform you that some SD cards need to be formatted using any PC / Laptop (supporting SD cards) before using with our devices.
Regards,
Technical Support - i-mate™
So I finally sent my jam back for repair under warranty as the backlight kept going off too and now it seems to be ok . I did wonder about the thickness of the memory cards because some do feel like a tight fit. I have also read on various forums that the jam cannot manage larger than 2gb size memory cards and lots of owners seem to complain of the same format/ reformat problems.I am looking at getting a 4gb card but don't know which one to try. Most uk available ones are 150x speed. Any I mate jam users with good advice on this topic? :!:
Update 18/10/06
Today I received a Kingmax 4gb 40x sd card from Dabs.com £54.48 and it works in my I-mate jam straight out of the box, no formatting or anything. Finally I can hardly believe it!!!!
http://www.dabs.com/ProductList.asp...y=All&PageMode=3&NavigationKey=0&SearchType=1
ps. MMC plus cards don't work at all in my Imate jam ,although an old ancient 256mb mmc card works.Guess it really is all down to the speed. Keep it below 60x and its hunky dory!

1GB SD Card for Magician???

I'm looking to buy an SD card for my MDA Compact...would you recommend a particular brand? please list the ones that are incompatible. I'm looking for one that is most compatible and can be used with GPS software as well as playing music. what is the minimum RW speed required to achieve this. thanks alot in advance

As all the SD cards are really cheap now I would suggest a 4GB SD (Note: Not SDHC - the HC will not work) which I believe would be the maximum storage size for magician.
That's a little rare, if that's not possible for you to find then a 2GB MicroSD with Adapter would be my second choice - after your magician retires you still have a MicroSD to play around with.
Just my 3 cents.
Regards,
Philip

If its any help i use a 1gb Sandisk one and its been working perfectly for over a year now.

I ran the Kingston 1GB, and a Transend 1GB aswell as a 2BG transend from a friends Digi-cam, now i stumbled on a strange thing The 4GB kinston/transend cards dont work for me, BUT i got this 4gb SILICON POWER 80x SD card for my digicam, and IT WORKS, and ultra fast,
takes 1-2 second to access it, while it took around 5 to access the 2bg cards
ill post a link of it so u can try to find it at your local stores
http://www.digitalmediastore.co.uk/..._Speed_80x_Secure_Digital_Card__SIL-SD4HS80-D
(Qtek-S100)-(MDA-T-Mobile)

8 gb memory card???

hey ya'll...
considering purchasing an 8gb memory card for my htc herald, have any of you tried this sucessfully??? the storage memory for the internal memory is not that great as you know and even things that you store in the memory card take up shortcut room in memory...what do you think?? are any of you running the phone on 4 GB memory stick? thanks ...

I have no problems running a cheap 8gb micro-sd from a no-name brand in my HTC P4350,
However, mine does feel a bit slower (yes its possible), since the upgrade from a 2gb card.

Ive been using a 8GB for about 6 months now and havent had ANYproblems with it. I actually had more problems with my old 1GB. It runs perfect!

i have the 8 gb card from amazon and i used it in my shadow and now my wing, its awesome, i keep all my phone supplies there and music, movies, vids, ebooks...keeps on going, lol its worth it, will be looking into the 16 gb soon just to be able to have an even bigger collection for on the go

I've got an 8gig Sandisk SDHC in my wing. No worries at all.

I've got an 8gig Sandisk SDHC in my HTC P4350. And it work´s nice with movies and music.

i've been using a 8gb card from kingston, don't pack it too full or else your phone will lag, i use it for mostly music and i find that when i fill it up all the way it gets a little corrupted
looking @ buy.com for the 16gb cards, 40 bucks...just needs to drop a little moer....

i got a sandisk 8gb loaded with movies, mp3s, ebooks basically everything and it runs smooth

yep..8gb is fine. slower than my 4gb, but not too bad

kristopherson said:
yep..8gb is fine. slower than my 4gb, but not too bad
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now using 16gb, no lag. works great

ok..sorry for disturbing the hype, but I need to post this:
I upgraded from 1 to 2 GB and now to 8gb..since then I encoutered issues:
First I copy and pasted everything from my 2gb card onto my 8gb SDHC class 2 card and everything run smoothly..but after some days I realised that all my pivtures I took were gone..than I saw that all folder were weired named--re-named...BUT it changed again and besides that the pixx were gone, all run ok again..
but now..since Yesterday..it is the same..folders re-named..pixx gone and my display says please insert storage-card, but it is included AND I can see the content via file explorer or active sync...its the same with the 2gb card..displays shows the "please insert screen" but I can access via onboard file explorer (fyi all folders are ok..not renamed on the 2gb card)
My idea is, that my simply copy and paste from 2gb to 8gb card was not the proper way to do it..or??
Can someone suggest how to manage this? I have no card reader and I havent found a way to format the 8gb card..to do the copy paste or whatever again..
Any ideas are appreciated!

I have 8, 8gb cards filled and use everyone of them and no problem at all

Did you try right-clicking on the storage card and re-formating it to deault thats what i had to do when i had that problem and havent had a problem since if that doesnt work then you will need to find a cheap usb card reader online....... and if that doesnt help let me know and i might have another solution to help you re-format it

hey phaze, right click within active sync does not allow "format" ..so i tought as well of the card reader thing..or where could I be able to use right click-format option?

do sdhc is correct to use for htc 4350? I hear dform mycard supplier that only sd is usable? so is that my mistake?