Hi i am just started using Phonealarm and it is super cool that it can use specific profiles based on your location. But i think its draining my batteri that it both searches with GPS, Cell towers and cell broadcast.
Which one uses most batteri and which one should i use?
torstenk said:
Hi i am just started using Phonealarm and it is super cool that it can use specific profiles based on your location. But i think its draining my batteri that it both searches with GPS, Cell towers and cell broadcast.
Which one uses most batteri and which one should i use?
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Numerous threads already on battery strength, charging and how to check what uses what etc.
Try doing a search before creating new threads.
Such threads include:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=488269&highlight=battery
Hope this helps
battery
go to settings/connections and switch of wifi when not in use. This will make a massive difference to your battery! I waas about to relegate the touch hd to the man-draw and use my old k800i until i tried this. Now the phone is ok for a couple of days on a charge
Actually i am not using wifi at all. I think it is phonealarm that is draining my batteri. I installed it yesterday and it is draining the batteri faster than when i had SPD Mobile.
That is a shame because i loved that you have alot of profiles and it autoswitches
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i have htc p3600 and the problem is that the battery is running so fast when im using the phone talking or internet but when im using it normal with out talking or using connection it's fine just when im using the phone on games and programs my radio is 1.38.00.11 should i have change the radio or it's a good one? or should i change the battery ?? and if i have to change the radio how i can do that cuz i tried to too many times but it's telling me that my mobile is not connected
please help me ...
thanks in advanced
are you sure that your problem depend of kind of usage?
for sure non stop turned on wifi, connections usualy very fast eat power from your battery.
maybe your battery have a few years and you need to get new one?
a while ago i just bought a battery because i use a gps all the time and non stop charging - like in a car, simply make shorter life of battery.
SO : maybe you sholud buy a new battery?
info> search for many net shops and compare prices. in PL price was between 49-159...so its good to find some good one ;p
sadek7777 said:
i have htc p3600 and the problem is that the battery is running so fast when im using the phone talking or internet but when im using it normal with out talking or using connection it's fine just when im using the phone on games and programs my radio is 1.38.00.11 should i have change the radio or it's a good one? or should i change the battery ?? and if i have to change the radio how i can do that cuz i tried to too many times but it's telling me that my mobile is not connected
please help me ...
thanks in advanced
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Maybe both. New radios like 1.56 perform well for me. I also bought a new battery. These helped me greatly.
Hi All!
I have a Diamond 2 I bought 2 months ago.
I tried many roms lately but with most i cannot get more than 15-17h Battery
I dont talk much on the phone...i dont really surf from it...i just have my hotmail linked in it.
I recalibrated the battery on last flash still the same. I am using Nhaohoa rom (build 23529), i m using radio 4.49.25.91. I dont use wifi.
Which consumes less power? 3G or HSPDA? or?
Any can suggest a different rom that is very fast and stable and can give better battery time?
Thanks!!!
(sorry for posting it before in the wrong section)
youngmann said:
Hi All!
Which consumes less power? 3G or HSPDA? or?
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I cannot give you general information for your other questions, but afaik, 3G (HSDPA is only the faster version of standard UMTS bandwith) consumes more power than GSM (GPRS/EDGE), so I have my TD2 set to use GPRS only. 3G i use only, when necessary. My battery keeps a day, too. But I use my device heavily for making calls and internet, so i guess, thats okay when i have to charge my device so often.
Another thing is, what increases the power consumption is a low signals strength and/or how often you lose your connection. Maybe your signal strength is more stable if you use GPRS only. You can verify, if you have an active data connection even if you not use the internet.
I'm not sure, how much the battery life depends on the rom, but I'm comfortable with my current udk rom.
~Eyghon
Hi,
I'm starting this thread to collect informations about using the N1 on a HSDPA network. Over the next weeks I'll be posting stats and infos about my experience on a HSDPA network.
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Battery optimization
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HSDPA seems to be very hard on the battery, and to get the most of your N1 there will be some sacrifice.
What COULD help:
- Dial *#*#4636#*#* and set the phone to "WCDMA Only" in the phone informations.
- Try the app called "battery refresh" on the android store. It will discharge your phone. Then boot into recovery and wipe your battery stats.
- Install setCPU from the android store (1$) and force it to 245/576 while the phone is standby/sleep (thanks djmcnz)
- there's an app on the appstore called JuiceDefender that allow you to disable APN based on time or your location.
What WILL help
- disable sync (push). This have a MAJOR impact on HSDPA network
- and obliviously set brightness to auto or lowest acceptable value.
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Signal optimization
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So far I've tried two different radio rom, and the older 4.03.00.21_2 seem to offer better signal. So you could try using that one.
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- If you have a rooted N1, you could try in "spare parts" the hotweiss's Radio mod (in miscellaneous). In my case, there's not difference but still could be worth a try.
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N.B. : Fellow canadians, if you are on Bell or Telus with your N1, your are on a HSDPA network.
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aad4321 said:
i NEED push on my work email at peek times. the sense ui version allows u to turn off push at different times. I would like to see this for the nexus
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You could try JuiceDefender, I think that app does exactly that.
I seem to get alot of network connection errors from market, to internet, and some games that use internet.
I noticed my signal is usally full bars but switches alot between 3G and H (HSDPA)
Are my connections errors due to the switching of 3G and H much like some people have issues with EDGE and 3G switching back and forth in certain spots?
Also that *#*#4636#*#* didn't work. EDIT: nevermind, needs to be done on the stock dialer.
I set my network from WCDMA prefered to WCDMA only. See how that works. EDIT: Still switches from 3G to HSDPA...
Sistum Id said:
I set my network from WCDMA prefered to WCDMA only. See how that works. EDIT: Still switches from 3G to HSDPA...
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I believe this is normal behavior. The 'WCDMA only' option disables EDGE network connections so that you only use the 3G/HSDPA.
Cheers
I hope there is a bug on the N1 radios..Cause I can't last 20hrs with 1hr worth of calls..and small use of internet. Yet other people saying they easily go pass 30hrs with heavy use...liars..
I can still get though a full day, business and pleasure on a single charge using HSDPA, WiFi and making calls... lots of calls.
In an average (16h) day I will be connected via 3G for about 10 of those and WiFi for the remaining six. I make about 180 mins of calls a day, 20% of those using the speaker, I have a feed reader with 20 feeds that update constantly, I listen to music to and form work (20mins + 20mins), I might play a game or two and I often read xda and/or download during the day. Brightness at about 55% fixed.
I charge my phone overnight, every night (have been doing this since my original RAZR anyway).
I have never, ever run out of battery during a given day.
Setting the CPU to min in standby is not a good idea - it needs some headroom to actually complete background tasks and 245 is too low IMHO and will be counter-productive. I suggest 245/576.
If your usage is much above mine then I'm not sure how many marginal tips will be needed before it makes a meaningful difference...
Sistum Id said:
I seem to get alot of network connection errors from market, to internet, and some games that use internet.
I noticed my signal is usally full bars but switches alot between 3G and H (HSDPA)
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I got these errors on T-Mobile as well - since moving over to AT&T with the AT&T version they have completely disappeared.
krohnjw said:
I got these errors on T-Mobile as well - since moving over to AT&T with the AT&T version they have completely disappeared.
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Well I'm not sure but on mine it switch from 3G to H only when I fetch data. Else it stays on 3G.
Nierdal said:
You could try JuiceDefender, I think that app does exactly that.
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Testing Juice Defender now. So far it's an incredible solution to battery drain, if it does what it claims. Will post findings this weekend.
Daswolven said:
Testing Juice Defender now. So far it's an incredible solution to battery drain, if it does what it claims. Will post findings this weekend.
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Yep I'm getting the same results here. Juice Defender is the most effective thing I've tried so far. I'll collecting stats about it right now will post later.
Hey guys, I'm by no means an Android developer, so I could never make my idea a reality. But do you guys think this would be possible?
THE IDEA:
A small program that runs in the background, switching the network between HSDPA and EDGE. It would default to EDGE while idling, but activate HSDPA when a user-defined program is run (such as Opera, google maps, marketplace, etc). This way, you can idle on EDGE (and save power), but still have the speed of HSDPA when you need it!
I have no idea if this is even remotely possible so please don't flame the noob
I don't know if you searched the forums...but this was 4 threads down from yours. Don't know if it answers your application or what not...also try out Juice Defender
EDIT: oh hi from OCN
bloke226 said:
I don't know if you searched the forums...but this was 4 threads down from yours. Don't know if it answers your application or what not...also try out Juice Defender
EDIT: oh hi from OCN
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Yea already tried it But I still have the OCN mentality of "the pursuit of performance".. in this case, the pursuit of battery performance
Juice Defender does not switch between EDGE/3G based on the applications you're running AFAIK
I kinda had the same idea as you so last week I created a topic on the Nexus One Themes and Apps: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=678227
Feel free to join the discussion
I believe 3g uses less power while idling than edge
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r34p3rex said:
Yea already tried it But I still have the OCN mentality of "the pursuit of performance".. in this case, the pursuit of battery performance
Juice Defender does not switch between EDGE/3G based on the applications you're running AFAIK
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I hear ya about the performance. I guess I read your post too quick and missed the part where it would be application based. I can't think of anything on the top of my head that can do that, it would be difficult I would imagine...
I think there are a couple problems here
1) the "context switch" (if you will) from Edge to 3G and back devours battery
2) its slow, so you grab your idling phone to figure out the nearest Starbucks and you miss your exit while it jumps from Edge to 3G
I know on the google api it isn't possible to do this, but I don't think that isn't the problem.
At the moment you have 3 options. GSM only, WCDMA only and GSM/WCDMA. Whenever you switch between the 3 of them, the phone will lose signal for 10 seconds before it can find the best network. So the switcher here is not the best as you will lose connection, and what if you are downloading something at the same time...
What you need is when the phone is on GSM/WCDMA that it knows the best network to pick from depending on the phones lifecycle. GSM/WCDMA loses battery power because it always tries to find the best network to connect to, so for example if you are on GSM it will constantly try to find a 3G network etc (as far as I understand it).
What we need is the ability for the phone to stay on GSM when the phone is idle and then when the phone is woken up to automatically start to search for a WCDMA network and then gracefully switch over like it does now. For this I have no idea if it is possible as I don't know how the scanning of the network works. If it is possible then that would be wicked. But this is what we need.
crachel said:
I think there are a couple problems here
1) the "context switch" (if you will) from Edge to 3G and back devours battery
2) its slow, so you grab your idling phone to figure out the nearest Starbucks and you miss your exit while it jumps from Edge to 3G
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THIS.
It's the switch between the two that really eats battery. That said, I'm pretty sure you can do that with Tasker already.
Check out Chainfire's app http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=807989
I spend a fair amount of the day in areas with intermittent reception.
My battery life is really poor, since I think the phone is frequently looking for a signal that may not exist.
Is there a way to improve this without having to manually turn the cellular radio on and off?
Thanks!
improve the cell reception or the battery?
for battery, settings, wireless and something
mobile networks
uncheck the first 2
You could possibly use something like "locale" which is gps/location based or tasker which is system based, but I'm not 100 percent sure it support something like this. You might also want to try and take a look at the "superapp" by xda. All Apps can be found in the market.
You could use Tasker for this. You can create a profile that disables your cell radio (airplane mode) when there is poor / no reception and checks for cell signal every 10 minutes or so which is customizable. Its not a free app but a great app to invest in.
If you have Wifi where you dont have cell coverage then you could use wifi calling which saves battery as well..