[mar 8 2009] CE 5 explorer in WM - Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General

http://www.nuerom.com/BlogEngine/post/2009/03/08/CE-5-Explorer-is-getting-there-Really!.aspx
So, I've got CE 5 explorer running in WM on a HTC Titan. There are some stupid quirks with how WM handles windows, but I would say its a much more preferable shell (my opinion)! Anywho, hopefully I can make it usable for everyday use soon.. .cprog doesn't seem to be playing nicely.

ooohhh.... nice! How is the speed?

Wow, this is very good message! I was trying do it a lots of times, but without result. Rotate screen function is working correctly? Will you share the beta version ?

gonna check this after release.

Want to see this one
Sounds like a winner,time to start donating toward the all night coffee-coded
sessions...lol

tslany said:
Wow, this is very good message! I was trying do it a lots of times, but without result. Rotate screen function is working correctly? Will you share the beta version ?
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Sadly, screen rotate crashes the device, I've yet to figure why. Currently you kind of need KITL to make it work since you need to kill welcome.exe that wants to start up no matter what I do, but yes, of course I will release a beta version when I get a chance.

impressive work no2chem, keep up the good work, looking foward to the release.

YAY-YAY-YAY!!!
Can't wait to see it on my Universal!
I always hated that phone-like interface designed for idiots...

this is insanely exciting.
I always hated WM's crippled UI

This looks awesome, keep up the good work!

no2chem, can you share what you have at this moment?

Looking great! Please keep us updated, I'd really prefer this over the over-simplified WM interface, and maybe with a bit of skinning, it could be perfect!

Can't wait to get this see ported to a VGA device.
Like the universal or the diamond.
Great work.

There is a similar project here: Lindołsookiekowywszowiez

ibrythill, this is not exactly similar project.

Sorry, maybe I don't get it but how does switching to the CE explorer actually work? Would you have to flash your device or is it simply a set of settings?

any progress? or it's death?

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Porbably one of the best plugin for pocket PC !!

Hi all,
You absolutely need to have a look at this plugin... beautifull?
I am testing the evaluation version and it works great !!!
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/mobileshell/screenshots.html?en
dag
i've puschased it.very funcionally plugin for me
Tried it, didn't like it....
you cant beat Wisbar advance desktop, FANTASTIC!
I use it.
It is great, as it makes the icons very 'finger friendly', and you can quickly navigate to programs or system settings.
IMO, it really is the most practical plugin - not just looks good, but functional and easy to use
Now this is excately what I´ve been looking for!! Really great app! Finally an app that makes one hand navigation on the touch screen possible in a very good way! Really good, and I really really recomend it to everyone who has a pocket pc!
Great!!
great plugin.
i use it for severl months. works great.
i've tried wisbar advanced and i don't like it.
How i can customize Home Tab icons?
n0b0dy said:
great plugin.
i use it for severl months. works great.
i've tried wisbar advanced and i don't like it.
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How can you not like it?
the functionality is ONLY limited by your imagination!
I tried it, it's alright not amazing.
El_Mariachi said:
I tried it, it's alright not amazing.
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Sorry mate, gotta disagree!
best progy ever!
got my PPC to behave exactly as I want it to!
posted elsewhere.
posted elsewhere
Agreed, Mobile Shell is awesome and given the customisation that's happening in the Dev section of this forum even better.
deedee said:
Agreed, Mobile Shell is awesome and given the customisation that's happening in the Dev section of this forum even better.
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Hi Deedee.
Any chance you could post some links to some particular examples? I know if I looked for a while I could probably stumble across them, but I'm at work!
Thanks,
Mattster.
I have to agree that its a great piece of software, I have used the previous version and have just upgraded yesterday to the 2.1. I'm now able to uninstall the HTC home plugin and use this solely.
My biggest annoyance with it is that you cannot edit the website where you source the weather updates, however I have now installed SPB weather which enables me to specify my weather source.
Whenever I flash a new Rom I always make sure that this is one of the first programs added.
manindesert said:
I have to agree that its a great piece of software, I have used the previous version and have just upgraded yesterday to the 2.1. I'm now able to uninstall the HTC home plugin and use this solely.
Whenever I flash a new Rom I always make sure that this is one of the first programs added.
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Interesting how this thread has been revived!
I'm often tempted to go for the HTC look, I like the large clock digits, but for functionality and ease of use I generally decide to stick with Spb.
Manindesert, what's your preferred ROM at the moment then?
Manindesert:
Just seen in your signature "FInixNOver WWE 6.1 Ver. 3.2 Light".... not tempted to go for the 3.4 light upgrade then? I'm nearly tempted to flash from Mary to FInix but am so happy with my device as it is at the moment! Plus I'd lose my Tomtom speed camera use (due to change in device code after flashing". What do you reckon?
Mattster_spv said:
Hi Deedee.
Any chance you could post some links to some particular examples? I know if I looked for a while I could probably stumble across them, but I'm at work!
Thanks,
Mattster.
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Not sure about examples per se but here's links to the threads concerned, they are long but there are some nuggets in there:
Development sub-forum
General 2.1 Customisation
NiteStalkers Themes
There may be others but that's the ones i can find quickly.
deedee said:
Not sure about examples per se but here's links to the threads concerned, they are long but there are some nuggets in there:
Development sub-forum
General 2.1 Customisation
NiteStalkers Themes
There may be others but that's the ones i can find quickly.
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Thanks Deedee.
I'm sitting at work shattered and dying because I spent last night trawling through the first 200 pages of 2.1 themes and development! The whole diamond theme thread for example was interesting, but the theme itself didn't appear till page 125 or something!
Lots of interesting stuff, but for every tweak or theme offered there seems to be a problem or issue that needs solving. I think I've decided I am too much of a "If it aint broken don't try and fix it" type of person for half of the threads. If anything went wrong with my phone, I would have to drop everything in my life until it was fixed!
All I'm debating now is whether to flash Fixinover's 3.4 lite rom as it apparently has a fix in it for the issue in Mary's Rom where the device code changes and passwords are lost after a soft reset. But I'm still resisting as there always seem to be extra reg edits and cabs to download after flashing a cooked ROM due to issues that people discover!

Touchscreen Interface for Pocket PC Phone

I just found this site with a very interesting app to convert your phone into somewhat iPhone/Palm like but not really, just wondering if anyone else has tried this to give it a hay or nay. So far I like it.
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/8011/pointui-new-windows-mobile-touchscreen-interface/
very cool, thanks for this.
The direct link to the site is www.pointui.com
Very buggy. Bad scrolling imo. Is almost impossible to uninstall FYI.
Still to young to be replacing original interface. Wait till it develops more, and clears out bugs, and adds more custimizability. Then it will be a great UI.
Updated
They have updated the software and it is really nice but of course still needs some work. I keep thinking if it was the original software would I like it and so far my answer is yes. They have done a good job and will continue to impove it.
Alan
blazingwolf said:
The direct link to the site is www.pointui.com
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just tried 1.01b and i am mclovin it. it needs minor usability features added to it but overall very usable.
this is amazing.
how does it stand vs spb shell? are they the same type of app?
I tried this out, and although it looks nice, it's a real ***** to uninstall and everytime I was at the main screen, touching the phone icon would lock it up.
I tired this and it was real cool but would not update my calender and it would freeze up every now and then, will be nice when they get it stabalized
Been using it tons and have had no problems to speak of. Customizing the menus is a snap...just put shortcuts in the windows Start menu folder and ta-da! Skinning on the other hand is still being worked on.
What is with everyone having uninstall issues? Just delete the folder and the startup shortcut. Worked for me.
Has some nicer features. Still in it's infancy so not all the screens are ready (uses the standard ones for those for now). You can't beat free tho. Download it, try it out and get your suggestions in now.

Camera-based Motion Tracking

Hello everyone!
I'm new on this forum and I've only read TONS of useful information till now...Few days ago I bought an HTC Touch device and immediately I flashed its ROM with a new one found in this *** WONDERFUL *** site
Well, in the past I developed some (stupid) applications for Windows in several languages; then I discover the "pocket-pc" world and began to have to do with it! One night I was reading about a feature of a developement-version of a well known browser and WOOOOOOOW!!!! "You can perform several actions, like scrolling, panning, zooming...only by moving your phone!" The software use image-processing algorithms to recognize your gestures ...only using the built-in camera!!!! No accelometers needed...
Something like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3pVaEVHpvI
Now, image-processing algorithms are not too difficult to implement...but how can I get access to the built-in camera on my Htc ?!? I tried to search all over the internet, and in this forum too...but I found only few things about HTCCameraAPI and many other programs and their dlls. I cannot believe there's no way to have access to the camera!!!
HELP please!!! this "project" could be very interesting!
One thing is sure - it _can_ be done, and it can work really good, even on weak hardware - look at this:
http://rivia.net/Fishopolis.aspx
I just tried the demo and i was amazed how well it worked on my wizard (especially considering its crappy camera), even in less than perfect lighting conditions (incadescent light). No overclocking required.
Also, from what i've seen WM7 is going to use the camera-based gestures too. So, anyone willing to beat M$ to it and develop a camera-based ftouchflo-like app?
I've looked at the libs, and I've even dabbled in the source, and this is my next project. Like I said, we know it can be done, it's just a matter of doing it. Obviously though, I've got to finish off PocketMelody etc. But it's my next move, once no one beats me to it . And personally, I hope someone does! It's not THAT hard.
Welcome to the forums gregnapola!
This website hepled me choose my very first PPC Phone 18 months ago and helped it become the best little device I own. It just keeps getting better and better with tools such as FTouchFlo, PocketMelody and Picture Flow, and I look forward to this feature onMY HTC Hermes!
Shows how much really can be done with this WM platform, all you need is developers with imagination and talent (and all the other things that go along with it like coffe and donations and and respect on the forums ).
Thanks guys.
maybe we would have some1 develop a program that automatically changes portrait mode into landscape by jus rotating the camera..hey u never kno..this is XDA-DEVELOPERS..
Sounds awesome and would definitly love to see this done. Just a quick question about it. Would it be a big battery drain to have this running all the time?
hebrewhammer said:
Sounds awesome and would definitly love to see this done. Just a quick question about it. Would it be a big battery drain to have this running all the time?
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Considering that you're not rendering anything to the screen, it's at least safe to assume you'll be using A LOT less power than if you were walking around with your camera application on all day .
Thank you for your replies...
I've just installed the demo version of "Rivia Fishopolis" to see how well can it work but it doesn't run it because of an unknow security-error
Now, I found a lot of useful camera-based applications, but they'll come in the future - I'm talking about WM7 gesture-based control, NetFront 3.5 or EyeMobile Games by GestureTek...but all I really need is the way to capture frames by my Elf camera; code samples in any Visual Studio language with HTCCameraAPI, or any other lib...
any update?
I'd also love to substitute my D-Pad for a Camera-based Motion Tracking system
No Dev takes this challenge?
gregnapola said:
Thank you for your replies...
I've just installed the demo version of "Rivia Fishopolis" to see how well can it work but it doesn't run it because of an unknow security-error
Now, I found a lot of useful camera-based applications, but they'll come in the future - I'm talking about WM7 gesture-based control, NetFront 3.5 or EyeMobile Games by GestureTek...but all I really need is the way to capture frames by my Elf camera; code samples in any Visual Studio language with HTCCameraAPI, or any other lib...
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I resolved your error assigning owner information (all). But camera feature seems to not work on my trinity...also the d-pad can't move the cursor...is there anyone with same problem?
thanks
Would it be possible to have it access the front camera too and switch of the LCD when you're talking on the phone? Something like what the iPhone does to save battery.
christiankirana said:
any update?
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The only update is that my elf was stolen about a week ago...and so...I cannot do anything at all!!! So sad....
gregnapola said:
The only update is that my elf was stolen about a week ago...and so...I cannot do anything at all!!! So sad....
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That's really stinks!! I hope you can get another one. Sorry to hear the news.
Chris
Im trying to use Fishopolis on my phone ( an HTC Wizard) but i keep on getting some kind of weird security error.
Any ideas why im getting that error and how to fix it?
doesn't seem to work with the camera on the Hermes...hmmm
Looks like we will have to wait until 2009 for WM7.
wouldn't it consume a lot more battery if camera is always on.
just my thought
I think this is a cool idea and I think I mentioned this somewhere else in this forum, but if this could be done, it would be cool if one could use the camera of there phone, link it via bluetooth and use it as a mouse for a laptop.
Just thinking outloud.
lol, some interesting ideas.
Docnas, refer to post by cf222111:
I resolved your error assigning owner information (all).
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Mariner_heart, refer to post by thundershadow_14:
Considering that you're not rendering anything to the screen, it's at least safe to assume you'll be using A LOT less power than if you were walking around with your camera application on all day .
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[DEV] [New Preview Image added]Manila Style Gaming - A Call to all Developers!!!

Hello, Xda-developers....
First of all i would like to apologise to the mods.... for some reason XDA-Developers double posted my thread when i tried to edit it... I am sorry... please remove both of them...
I have been looking for interesting games for my Touch HD and Touch Pro and have sadly not been impressed by all of them... There have been some that stand out in my eyes, but not alot. So my plan is to create a group of developers to join in and make a series of great games for our Touch HD and (Touch Pro and Diamond). If anyone would like to help me in this process please do message me or post a reply... I have great graphic skills... but do not know much about developing windows mobile.
OVER Time I hope to release these games for other devices but as of now.. the main goal is...
WVGA and VGA resolution devices..
I have come up with a quick (outline of what some of the games will be) The shot is posted below...
again please contact me if you are interested in helping..
Current Developers:
*Me
*l3v5y
Current Position:
Finished Ui development and going to start game development
Download the Latest Version: http://cid-cddbf77985693632.skydriv...A files/Programs/ManilaGames/base.Demo.02.exe
nobody else wants to join in?
I agree 100%, there aren't enough good games on these phones. I wish I could help, but I know squat about programming. I wonder if it might not be easier to start out with porting existing games. I've always wanted Grim Fandango for my WM phone.
I would like to join in. I'm not that great in programming yet, but learning is key.
I have a great idea for a game, but dont know anything about programing.
This is a great idea! Too bad i don´t know anything about how to make games.
I'm sure their are some people interested.... i'll try to get more devs later....
Great idea, since you are developing for WVGA anyway, I couldn't be too hard to scale it down to WQVGA(Omnia) res. But obviously, you have your immediate goals to concentrate at right now. Hope this project gets through and gets the attention it deserves.
Akshay
I may be wrong... but i don't believe the omnia has 3D hardware acceleration????
if it does... later we would hope to make it fit WQVGA.. but as i said for now.... it is
WVGA and VGA
thanks again and we are trying hard to make this work....
Attached is a screenshot of my demo application so far.
Currently, the graphics is done in basic Win32 GDI, but I'll be upgrading that to D3DM when I work out the simplest way of doing so...
The white square is a background image that I created as a 48x48 pixel image. That can be changed so it takes up the whole screen.
As I don't currently have a VGA/WVGA device, I need people to test things for me.
Here is a demo of the base code on which games can be built. If some one could test it and report back, it'd be much appreciated! - Copy to your device and run it, VGA or WVGA in landscape is required.
It doesn't do a huge amount, the slide tab at the bottom works, and I need to see if that's responsive enough before I do anything else!
l3v5y said:
As I don't currently have a VGA/WVGA device, I need people to test things for me.
Here is a demo of the base code on which games can be built. If some one could test it and report back, it'd be much appreciated! - Copy to your device and run it, VGA or WVGA in landscape is required.
It doesn't do a huge amount, the slide tab at the bottom works, and I need to see if that's responsive enough before I do anything else!
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Downloaded and tested, slide seems very responsive for me. Tested on htc fuze using ROMeOS 1.60.1 rom. Not sure about why you said landscape is required though. It worked in portrait and looked just like your screenshot. But when I opened keyboard to go to landscape, it doesn't resize so slide is gone off bottom of screen out of view. I didn't know if it should auto-rotate based on gsensor either, but if it was then that wasn't working either. Very nice start though
thanks for the info showaco... we are planning a project release so that more devs can use the slider for more universal applications....
thats just an update for you guys...
thanks again for the support and feedback
added a new preview image...
check first post...
added another "preview" image... check first post....
showaco said:
Downloaded and tested, slide seems very responsive for me. Tested on htc fuze using ROMeOS 1.60.1 rom. Not sure about why you said landscape is required though. It worked in portrait and looked just like your screenshot. But when I opened keyboard to go to landscape, it doesn't resize so slide is gone off bottom of screen out of view. I didn't know if it should auto-rotate based on gsensor either, but if it was then that wasn't working either. Very nice start though
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Sorry! I meant portrait is required! :S
I've uploaded a new file with 4 tabs, and an updated skin.
Tomorrow should see a "dev" release, with source code, and the ability to use this is a base for games.
Updated version is here.
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Sorry! I meant portrait is required! :S
I've uploaded a new file with 4 tabs, and an updated skin.
Tomorrow should see a "dev" release, with source code, and the ability to use this is a base for games.
Updated version is here.
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haha, I thought you might of meant portrait. So does that mean no landscape support? BTW, latest file works well, same as first.
landscape support will be available....
all in good time my friend... as we speak i am thinking which format would be good for landscape support..
thanks...
I've just uploaded the source to the framework.
Here it is!
Ummm... So how's the dev. going? Seemed to have abruptly stopped. Seemed promising though...
Kudos for the effort though,

SIMPLE OS for pocket pc

i just came accross this awsome OS for Windoes mobiles i have a O2 stealth and it works perfectly on my phone just some times it crashes and is lil unresponsive at times but i dont know if we can develop it or no
try it
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/index.php
Bad link :/
fusioncoast said:
i just came accross this awsome OS for Windoes mobiles i have a O2 stealth and it works perfectly on my phone just some times it crashes and is lil unresponsive at times but i dont know if we can develop it or no
try it
http://simple-os.en.softonic.com/pocketpc
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Download link is broken. Can you upload the SimpleOS_latest.rar here?
Thanks in advance!
It' here, multires, tested on Diamond, some crashesh, maybe need more work under win 6.1
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/index.php
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It' here, multires, tested on Diamond, some crashesh, maybe need more work under win 6.1
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/index.php
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Thanks, I will try it.
Wow, this is very cool!!
I got this to work on my Touch Pro. To run it click on the simpleos.exe once you unzip it. It took a few times to get it running with a few crashes, but now it boots everytime np. Once it boots, click only in the password box and it should boot right up. It crashes if you click anywhere else. Actually this software is very very cool. Very stable once you get it to boot. Not very finger friendly though. Almost seems like development has stopped, which is too bad.
Also notice there are multiple desktops with widgets ect. You can access from the shortcuts in the upper right corner. Unfortunately on the 3rd desktop it crashed.
Open Source Code?
It WAS open source? I can't seem to download the source no more. Anyone willing to Hard Google and find the source? It's just too cool to not be in development. :\
Is this just an overlay for Windows Mobile? or does it actually reboot into a Linux shell?
Looking at the screen shots, it seems it is just an overlay.
It's skin
It's just an overlay everyone. I tried this last year on my touch and it works great! I'll see if I can if the sources somewhere and post at my site later.
I emailed the developer and got this reply....
"The program is no longer in active development. Feel free to download full source code in C#.NET. I am glad it sparked your interest, I hope you can contribute and make SimpleOS better. This is the reason it became Open Source!
Go head spread the word at xdadevelopers.com"
I will try and get them to provide a working link to the source code.
Source Code link has been fixed. The file is too large to attach. If you can't download let me know and I will split it into 2 smaller files. Enjoy!!
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/source.php
Direct link is here
http://simpleos.iroot.ca/dl.php?file=SimpleOS.7z
I think it looks great to be completely honest. Maybe if someone were to develop on it, it might be a more feasable option than using the standard windows 6.0/.1 interface until 6.5 becomes a bit more stable.
Are there any developers out there that would be interested in continuing this project? I think its has great potential.
yes it is way better than copying iphone interface and also trying various interfaces to get better user friendly apps .
it also boots there is a option for it to boot

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