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Development Request: turn HTC [X]button into [OK]button

i am using htc x-button on my treo and like the ability to actually close the application instead of hiding it.
however for onehand navigation it might be very usefull to add an option to close applications with the (hardware) [OK]button.
i am not a programmer but having a look at the size of the original program it might be a very small change to allow that. what do you think?
is it worth the try? would you say this might be a usefull additon?
thanks a lot for your time

ditch x-button & use PQzII instead.

or tman for that matter

@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
@pat123:
thats "just another taskmanager", but doesnt fits my needs. it requires the use of the stylus to select and close programs.
i just want to use the treo onehanded as much often as possible, no stylus. so using the ok-button to actually close programs would be perfect. PQzII would be perfect (even overloaded for me) if it works with WM6.
any more hints on this one?

I am also trying to make my device (8525) as thumb friendly as possible. I use SPB Mobile shell, which has an easy-to-poke-at-with-your-thumb task manager. The task manager can be used to switch to or close any running application. It can also close all, close all but selected, or minimize all. I mapped the task manager to the PTT button (using Sleuth's PTT fix) for easy access. I also mapped the Today screen to the hardware Internet Explorer button to use as a "minimize all" button. (SBP Mobile Shell also has makes it possible to add large icons to the today screen to launch your favorite programs). I now have a fairly easy time switching between apps while walking or whatever without using two hands. I still wish I could map the "OK" button to close rather than minimize though. Maybe someone with far more skill than I will come up with a way to map the "OK" button to close an appication. I'm more "user" than "developer".

...Or Pbar for that matter.

nehvada said:
@ deadeyes:
nice program but unfortunately doesnt work on treo with WM6. (display problems and OK-funktion not working)
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hmm, I'm using it on WM6 (hermes however), and it working perfectly.
by display problem, do you mean the white square on your top bar? if yes, you can disable it in the icon tab.
did you check the "Use OK button" in the Window tab? if yes and it still doesn't work then you will probably need to map close function manually in the system tab. (you will need to find out the key code in concern, they have other apps to help you do that)

I found something new (to me) since my last post. I just found vijay555's OK/close button application. It can be mapped to a hardware button (not the OK button unfortunately), but it works great. It's much easier to use a hardware button than it is to try to wedge my fat thumb into the upper right corner of the screen. Here's the link --
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJOkButt

My thoughts on the cube / cube replacements

OK - so the cube is nice and all.. but I think using that same interface in a slightly different way would be so much better...
Here's my perfect version of the cube (coming from a non-programmer..)
slide-up, bring up task manager with first item start menu or list of frequently run programs, rest of the items what you're running so that you can quickly select a different app.
Slide-down, close that..
slide-down while in another app - minimize that app and show the today screen
slide-left, select last app
slide-right, select next app
Does something like this exist? I think it'd be so much more useful then what the cube/cube hacks are offerring at this point..
-mark

i was meaning to give the same thoughts...
or instead of a thinking of it as a cube.. why not explore and expand.. we dont have to limit the launcher just as a cube..
i think the problem is PEOPLE ARE BEING CONFINED BY JUST THE IDEA OF A CUBE.. with 3 or 4 sides.. 2x3 launcher, 1x3 multimedia and 3x3 contacts.
why can't it be 4 sides of scrolling list? why remain as 3 or 4 sides of nxm shortcut/contact blocks?
i mean, having a list instead, of cells or blocks, the entries could be infinite...
not just a favorite Programs (like that offered by the cube) but a complete application launcher itself.. much like the programs list of PointUI..
OR like this..
swipe up from any screen (maybe done by FTouchFLO gesture) = call up CUBE launcher face
from CUBE launcher face, swipe up = call up another face.. the Task manager face.. where running programs are listed
from Task manager face, swipe up = you get a Start Menu launcher.. it has all the programs/shortcuts listed inside the Start Menu\Programs
now there would be the problem of recognizing swipe up from finger panning/flicking scroll.. but that problem has been solved already by the gesture delays employed by FTouchFLO.. so, no questions there..
the question now is.. who is willing to do the task..
i think i'm talking in gibberish now, so i'll stop..
PS: anyway dude, the slide gestures of minimizing and application switching can be achieved by FTouchFLO.. there is a little config tool developed called "FTouchFLO Config" that enables you to assign gestures to commands easily.. though you need 3rd party apps to make the Minimize and Task Switch.. but those are not hard to find..
hehe..

Task manager idea

I was wondering if it would be possible to have nice fast simple on-screen task manager that is called from long press of home button, for example. Anyone got ideas?

It's not exactly the same question, but is it possible to map a softkey to the standard task manager? (I just bought a piel frama case and it's hard to tap on the task manager symbol)

Or add a shortcut to the task manager in the start menu .. any ideas how to do this?

try here:
http://www.dotfred.net/
he has (in my opinion) the best taskmanager with all the trimmings, but if you want a basic one that just displays running programs as a picture, like Alt+Tab on a PC, download the task switcher from the above site
once it is installed, got to START->SETTINGS->BUTTONS
you will see only one button available, this is called "Button 1" (the call key bot the hang up key) map task switcher to this
then when you hold down the call key you will have a visual taskmanager where you can end running progs etc
hope this helps

Thanks for the reply, I have that task manager already installed in Dutty's ROM, and I think it's great but I can't find a simple option like "close all active tasks" and "define exceptions"
For the second idea, I have tested it but I don't like to hold any key, I feel like doing harm to my phone

thanks for the responses guys...

Start Menu with task switcher

On my X1 i run the SPB Panel. This gives me 3 ways to get to my recent programs by a single button push. There's the left soft key, the 'Recent' virtual directory and the recent list in the start menu.
I think it would be sensible if one of these could be a CURRENT list instead. IE programs which are open and you may want to activate. I like the built-in task manager in the Tools area but it's not accessible when a program is active. Something on the task bar would be much better, so how about a list in the start menu? There are lots of start menu programs and I wondered if anyone had seen one that has this feature?
Thanks
NB: SPB Panel disables the HTC Task Manager

Have a search for QuickMenu, works great and should do what your looking for.

badboy4life said:
Have a search for QuickMenu, works great and should do what your looking for.
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Thank you. This is brilliant!!

quickmenu is even better when combined with wktask

[REQ] HTC Taskmanager improvement

Hi There,
If you ever used the "Close Button" plug-in from Spb Mobile Plus you prolly know what I mean...
The HTC Taskmanager looks all nice, I like it, but its only accessible on the Today Screen. Is there a way to make it accessible even when you're not on the today screen?
Sometimes when you're doing stuff you want to "alt-tab" to another program and this is an easy way to do it, or when you want to close another/all other programs.
I hope there's a solution because it really is an improvement to the taskmanager.

me too
sorry, no help here. I can only say "me too". I was actually just thinking about this today. I've had this phone for a few months, and it just today occurred to mr today that you can't close other open programs without going back to the today screen, only option is to "x" button back to today screen or hope that what you seek to close is in your start menu under 'recent items'.
any help or development would be super appreciated, thanks all.

There is a shortcut in the Settings folder in the Systems tab. However, I expect you don't want to go through all of that when you want to use it. As an alternative, you could use file explorer and go into the Windows folder, find the Task Manager program in there, copy it and past a shortcut in the Windows/Start Menu folder. Then it would be on your Start Menu. You would need to remove one other item if you were then over the allowed maximum number of items in there.
Is that accessible enough?

I'd rather not put it in my start menu cus there are other "important" shortcuts in there...
I'd rather have it in the upper right corner...

You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)

whiskeybro said:
You could use WkTask
the best free taskmanager there is (not working on wm6.5)
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I tried it and I like it, Is there a way to make a backup of my settings?

It seems the program doesnt work as i wished it would. I worked with it for a while and I like the concept alot, but there's a major flaw. Sometimes when I make adjustments to, lets say, my alarm settings (winmo clock/alarms setings), and when I press [ok] the window minimizes (I set the one click to minimize), there's no way you can apply the changes because it will keep on running on the background. If I choose to close it then the changes wont apply. This occurs to many other programs I use in simular occasions when you need to press [ok] to apply settings.
I would still have a solution to the HTC taskbar though. I think I would prefer it over the WkTask taskmanager.