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Re-Assigning Power Button

Hey guys, I just got my 8525 a week ago, I'm still trying to get used to it. Overall i think i like it more then my TREO650 but i have one problem, i cant stand the small power button on the side. Most of the time i push it i push the slide keyboard out too, its so small i can never find it.
My old Treo650 had the power button and locking keys on the END button, when i push END it would lock and turn off the screen, to Unlock i would push END again and then the Center button. Is there any way to re-assign the Power button on the 8525 to be like my old Treo650?

Any suggestions guys. I am having the same problem with small power button

DAFTEK said:
its so small i can never find it.
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sounds like a personal problem, maybe see a doctor?
On a serious note.. i dont think it can be reprogrammed via the software, i believe the power button is actually mapped via hardware since it is used for functions like putting the phone into bootloader mode, etc.. i could be wrong though.

Hey thanks for the reply although its my phone with the small problem I have tried two programs on the forum here called Devicelock.cab but that only locks the device but you still have to push power to power the phone back up.

I believe the power key can be reprogrammed in one or two highly invasive ways.
However, it doesn't sound like you want to re-assign the power key, but to assign the power off function to another key. Is that correct? That's easy/
If you want to assign the power on function, that is more complicated, but there are work arounds.
V

I agree with the original poster. The small power on/off button is poor design. When I want to place a call, I first need to turn the device on by hitting that very small button. Then I need to activate the phone app or invoke MS voice command. It's just plain poor design. I love my 8525, but it could be so much better if the product designers at HTC actually thought about the ergonomics of the tasks users do the most.
One more gripe. The phone app is atrocious. Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu. This is annoying for a phone and a better design could mitigate the poor usability. I/m not an iPhone fanboy but take a look at the thought Apple put in there *first* phone and it is quite illuminating on the state of PPC phones.

r111 said:
[...]Getting to the recent dialed list or to toggle the speakerphone usually requires bringing up a menu[...]
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You could try scrollwheel up or D-pad up for recent call list .
(also down for speed-dials).
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.

ovidiugm said:
Maybe you could map a button for speakerphone, not sure though.
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The original poster could - while in a call - try pressing the green button for two or three seconds.
I think it's even mentioned in the manual...
Cheers
Daniel

Hello.
I agree with the previous posters. The badly placed powerOn button is "bad design". If anyone finds the sollution (to PowerON the device using another key) please share it!
Otherwise, this is a great device. A true pocket computer
Best regards, jZ

+1 for the poor design.
I always hit the power button as I am pulling it out of the case when a call comes in, that turns off the screen, then I have to hit it again to see who is calling, and with all that going on as well as the ringer, the phone has a minor anurism and delays in answering.....

So to summarise the poor design aspect of this thread:
1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
Conclusion, it's just about right then!!
You can't please all of the people all of the time.
Mike

1. The power button is too small/difficult to find and press.
2. The power button is too easy to press/find even by accident.
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Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V

vijay555 said:
Sounds like the classic male/female dichotomy. I never can operate my wife's buttons, however obvious the functionality might seem....
V
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unfortunately i can operate my wife's buttons even when i dont want to.. talk about poor design )

Lol, Shogun, remind us again how many kids you have?
Ok, some Opus Dei style self flagellation for the errant moderators going off topic.
Is this issue now resolved?
V

I can also operate my wifes buttons just fine as well but all i want is to find out if i can move the power button to maybe the PPT button or END when holding it.

Daftek, again, do you want to emulate the power key functionality, (ie on/off) on another key, and/or entirely disable the original power key?
V

Thats what I would like to do......

Hello.
I think we'd all like to assign a DIFFERENT KEY to POWER ON function. POWER OFF is no problem, because a button for this can be assigned through "Buttons". When the phone is in "sleep mode", only the POWER button can wake it.
Any solutions?
Regards, jZ

IMHO, it's possible but not easily.
Easiest work around is to disable button locking, so that pressing any button can wake the device, and then use a software lock to timeout/power off if you happen to poke a hardware button while it's in your pocket.
Alternatively you could rewrite the button driver, but it's possible (although I've not looked into it definitively) that the hardware power button is a hardware interrupt to the CPU. In which case a software based solution will not override a hardware based connection.
V

This is what I did...
I totally agree the power button is a pain, the size, placement...
I know this sounds a bit weird but I took a small piece of plastic (actually from a toothpick) and crazy glued it on the button. It works great! I never miss the button anymore! See picture...

any way to lock phone when making calls

I get annoyed of my cheeck touching the screen and pressing buttons. I want it to lock so I don't touch it by accident. Any options like that?

Newest version of Slide 2 Unlock can do this for you, its in the forums

Can't you just turn the power off when you start a call?
V

vijay555 said:
Can't you just turn the power off when you start a call?
V
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this is what i do, because i don't like the random button pressing either. just hit the power button on the top of the phone after you make the call, so the screen turns off. you'll still be connected to your call.

Or you can just go to the home screen and lock the the device

Hard to Press the Power Button !!

Hi All, I have owned a lot of HTC phones and now I have the HD, its the first time I see HTC phone with such small, thin, and hard to press power button !!
especially in the dark, I cant press it and wake up my phone easily !!
I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button, but again I have new problem : sometimes when I carry my phone the volume get pressed by mistake and the ringer get muted or low and I miss some calls !!!
Any solution for this problem so I can wake up my phone from the standby without pressing the microscopic power button !!

Take out the stylus and insert it back again. That wakes up the device. Otherwise you might want to search for a G-sensor enabled "wake-up" application. "Shake_it_to_wake" so to speak...

ahmadddd said:
Hi All, I have owned a lot of HTC phones and now I have the HD, its the first time I see HTC phone with such small, thin, and hard to press power button !!
especially in the dark, I cant press it and wake up my phone easily !!
I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button, but again I have new problem : sometimes when I carry my phone the volume get pressed by mistake and the ringer get muted or low and I miss some calls !!!
Any solution for this problem so I can wake up my phone from the standby without pressing the microscopic power button !!
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Hello
Use S2u2

facet_ said:
Hello
Use S2u2
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How can you use it to wake up the device? I don't see that option in the description, except the default stylus in and out...

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I guess S2U won´t help you with waking up your device but if you use volume buttons it will protect you from accidental muting your phone.

I found power hard to press, too, but then I looked closely: This power 'button' is indeed non-symmetrical - at least on *my* device: it stands up a bit on one side, the left side, which is closer to the middle of the HD. So I press it *there*, because obviously enough that's the place where the sensor is located. It works easy every time.

ducatisto said:
I found power hard to press, too, but then I looked closely: This power 'button' is indeed non-symmetrical - at least on *my* device: it stands up a bit on one side, the left side, which is closer to the middle of the HD. So I press it *there*, because obviously enough that's the place where the sensor is located. It works easy every time.
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Thats a brilliant tip. Thank you.

david-v said:
How can you use it to wake up the device? I don't see that option in the description, except the default stylus in and out...
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Hello , use keylock.exe and set unlocking any key + s2u2,

ahmadddd said:
I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button,
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Can you tell me how?

Ducasito. Good observation. I wondered why sometime it was easy and sometimes hard. So the slight non-symmetrical button is not a manufacturing fault but a very subtle design feature. Now I know which side to hit. Thanks

Seems all HD's are different OR I have a very heavy finger.
All I need to do to get it to wake it lightly touch the power button and it comes on.

JanSchotsmans said:
Seems all HD's are different OR I have a very heavy finger.
All I need to do to get it to wake it lightly touch the power button and it comes on.
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I suppose it is just a matter of "where" you push the button. Just push it on the left edge (where the small led is placed) and you will not need that much pressure to switch the device on or off. The button sensor is actually under that left edge. the picture shows the powerbutton part (picture taken from the HTC Touch HD service manual). Under the left edge of it is the sensor, so putting the pressure there is the best way of pressing the button

ahmadddd wrote:
"I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button"
my question is: how did you manage it? with a special registry key?
....since a few months I`m searching for a solution....please help me
(my fingers are too big for the Power button)
many thanks, Michael

TFH said:
ahmadddd wrote:
"I MANAGED TO TWEAK MY HD and now I wake up my device pressing the volume button"
my question is: how did you manage it? with a special registry key?
....since a few months I`m searching for a solution....please help me
(my fingers are too big for the Power button)
many thanks, Michael
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You can use AE button plus. I use this to convert my volum buttons to up and down buttons on single click, select/ok on double click, and volume on hold and press.

Thanks for your answer but I´ve a further question:
Do you "wake up" (from standby) the blackstone by using this AE button? I tried to use this software but I couldn`t wake up the Touch HD from standby by using the volume buttons.

Phone Lock

I have done a search and can't find the answer to this so I do apologise if I have missed it.
I am after a phone lock as I am forever ringing the last number I dialled by mistake as I seem to turn my phone on whilst it is in my pocket...
Thanks in advance....

Such as the built-in phone lock on the Xperia??
Look at the "End Call" key. there is a little Key symbol.If you hold this key done it will lock your phone...
To unlock your phone follow the screen prompt, hit the left soft button then right soft button
The only key that will work is the power key to put it to sleep or wake it up. and the various keys used to answer an incoming call and end it!!
You can also setup a simple pin number for phone lock. So then you have to enter the pin# to your your phone
hth,
Stuart

another way, there are those free good work done by the folks where u slide to lock

scl_electronics said:
Such as the built-in phone lock on the Xperia??
Look at the "End Call" key. there is a little Key symbol.If you hold this key done it will lock your phone...
To unlock your phone follow the screen prompt, hit the left soft button then right soft button
The only key that will work is the power key to put it to sleep or wake it up. and the various keys used to answer an incoming call and end it!!
You can also setup a simple pin number for phone lock. So then you have to enter the pin# to your your phone
hth,
Stuart
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I already use the sleep button on the top and that is how I accidentally turn it on. As for the X1 lock on the "End Call" key. Well I can't see that one....

what he meant was to lock your phone, you can hold on the END CALL key.. it will be locked

leobox1 said:
what he meant was to lock your phone, you can hold on the END CALL key.. it will be locked
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I don't see the end call button unless I am in a call. Am I missing something here? I am using HTC Manilla Touchflo3D HD if that makes any difference...

kirkie said:
I don't see the end call button unless I am in a call. Am I missing something here? I am using HTC Manilla Touchflo3D HD if that makes any difference...
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The hardware end call button

rudizl said:
The hardware end call button
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Aah I see it... I will give that one a go then....

You can also click on the power button the device will then go all black and you have to click it once more to unluck it.

Giland said:
You can also click on the power button the device will then go all black and you have to click it once more to unluck it.
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That just puts it into sleep and is what I have been doing, but so easy to knock when in your pocket...

Maby this will do the trick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=466676

Hard to press (power) buttons

Hi all,
I heard a lot of people complain about the hard to (press power) buttons.
Logically is the main reason why htc makes hard to press (power) buttons is to avoid acitentally turning the device on/off while its in your pocket or wathever.
So why not make good easy to press CAPACTIVE (power) HARDWARE buttons.
I think that should solve a lot of problems
Please share your opinions about this!

A capacitive power button would lead to people triggering it every time they put their hand in their pocket to get it if they so much as brush against it.
It's not that hard to press anyway.
edit: No to mention if you hold the phone in landscape mode the button would then rest against your palm, again triggering it.

a capacitive power button wont be enabled if u switched the device off.. how are you gonna start your phone then .. thats why its a physical button

i have no problem with the power button, i like it. was using a hd2 before and on this device the power button was the same like the [call end] button. and that drained my battery always. sometimes you sitting in a tight seat like on a airplaine and you alway acciedently hit the button or even by walking arround or if you have other stuff in your pocket.

It would have been nice if we could get an option to also use the volume down button to turn the screen on.

YumYumHD said:
It would have been nice if we could get an option to also use the volume down button to turn the screen on.
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search this forum.. a couple of pages back there is this app that can do what u want.

lukesky said:
search this forum.. a couple of pages back there is this app that can do what u want.
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Next time please just name the app, makes it a lot easier, and saves a lot of searching.
Anyway, I found it on my own, and the app is called "No Lock". Best thing of all, it's free in the market!
This app will disable the lock screen, and thus wakes up immediately without having to unlock. Also, now you can wake the phone up with the volume button.

widget locker can also power on with volume button, and its very customizable but its not free, well worth the cost tho

YumYumHD said:
Next time please just name the app, makes it a lot easier, and saves a lot of searching.
Anyway, I found it on my own, and the app is called "No Lock". Best thing of all, it's free in the market!
This app will disable the lock screen, and thus wakes up immediately without having to unlock. Also, now you can wake the phone up with the volume button.
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i would if i remembered what exactly the name was, all i know is this question was asked several times by different people already so i just glanced through them without really paying much attention to specific names