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Always back to wrong default keyboard after soft reset

I have a Touch and installed SPB FSK trial.
I set it as the default keyboard but after each softreset, the touch keyboard is the default one when I type...
I think I already saw a registry hack for this but can't find it...
thank you

I use sipchange to set the default keyboard on startup.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008&highlight=sipchange+sleuth

Touchpal freezing

Hi,
I use Touchpal V3.5 and i absolutely love it, if you haven't tired it I highly recommend it, especially good is the mixed language input and I actually type faster using touchpal+gsen in landscape mode than I did with a hardware keyboard (a worry that almost prevented me from buying this marvelous device). I do have two little niggles that would be great if i could overcome somehow:
1. Setting Touchpal to the default keyboard does not stick after a restart/reset. I have to change the keyboard each time i start up. I tried SIP Change but it doesn't seem to have an option for running at start-up....anyone know if i can get at the registry somewhere or something?
2. When I first open it, if i try to type in Chinese before using English, it freezes in a bad way, disabling EVERY window that tries to call the sip and requiring a soft reset to make the phone useable again. If I open it, type something in english, and then switch the input to chinese it runs like a charm until I restart again...what is that about?
Actually neither of these issues is a deal breaker, but it would be nice not to have to worry about it, is anyone else having these troubles?...any suggestions are greatly appreciated!

touchpal
i have touchpal also and cant keep it as default. Ive tried all the fixes there are on all the threads. Doesnt work for Touchpal. any suggestions or fixes would be greatly appreciated.

Well I figured out the answer to problem one on my own...TF3D takes a little time to load and interferes with SipChange so you need to adjust the delay so as to happen after TF3D is finished.
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart

whats the difference (apart from it's tabulated) between touchpal and "compact QWERTY" mode keyboard?

you also need to Go make this change: HKCU\Software\HTC\BootLauncher\Apps and remove the folder called "Startkey"

I have the same problem with touchpal, where do i do this?
Just tap SIPChange, select the IM you want, and set the time to 45 seconds (shorter may work). Bingo, stays the default IM on restart

@FRUSTIN:
TOuchpal is third-party software by CooTek, "Compact Querty" is just a different layout for the tock HTC input method. TOuchpal is MUCH more feature rich and just kicks the [email protected] out of the default keyboard in every way, it supports tons of languages and multi-language input (go back and forth between two languages in the same sentence without changing any settings), web hotkeys, adds copy/cut/paste and D-pad to EVERY app, etc. check it out at www.cootek.com
@DIAMONDBS:
I did NOT do that and it works perfectly for me...why do you need to remove an entire folder from the registry? Can anone confirm this?
@WEETABIX1980:
Just go to start>programs>SIP Change, when the program opens you select Touchpal from the list of input methods and then change the numbers in the box below the list to 45, then click "Select"...should be the only button there...tapping "OK" is not good enough, be sure to tap "Select"

thanks, any clue what sip change in dutch is in the programs?

anyone knows this?

SIPChange is a little tool developed here at XDA:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=271008
Download the cab to your phone and install. This should then give you the options mentioned above.

Touchpal intermittantly hangs on me aswell. I post on here about it before. I tried allsorts to cure it (hard resets, clean installs etc). So annoying when demoing the phone to a friend and all of a sudden the keyboard hangs and wont popup.
I used to love Touchpal, now I hate it and will not install it on my phone.

Full Qwerty Keyboard turns into number keypad

Whenever a sms is open, the touch screen keyboard that is opened is supposed to be full qwerty. However, mine has turned in a number keypad. There is no way i can change to full qwerty again. I can change into transcriber, block recognizer, letter recongnizer but cannot revert back into qwerty. How can this be?
Even a soft-reset cannot solve this. Can anyone help? Thanks

If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave

Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....

DaveShaw said:
If I tap the "Up" arrow next to the SIP "Show/Hide" icon I get a popup menu that offers ...
Touch Input Settings
English >
Phone Keypad (this will be what you have selected)
Full QWERTY (this is what you want)
Keyboard
Other Input Methods >
Ta
Dave
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Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.

michi123 said:
Did you turn on the T9 option with HD Tweak? This caused the same problem on the Touch HD, might be the same on the TP2.....just an idea....
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Hi michi, I never use HD tweak and T9 option before. Only use qwerty and hardware keyboard only. This number keypad just appeared out of nowhere.

st8800 said:
Er Dave.... thanks for the suggestion. I already know how to change different input options from arrow up key. Sorry I didnt make myself clear earlier.
The problem is that even when I choose qwerty.... the number keypad still appears. It has happened before and the only way I can go back to qwerty is to go back to previous backup setting.
I'm just wondering if anyone else has faced any problem like this.
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Oh well, worth a shot...
Try the other guys suggestions
Dave

See... funny thing is that 5hrs ago, I backed up the device. During this time, I did not install any software and hardly used the phone except for some sms and inputing new contact info. Suddenly, the qwerty keypad input doesn't appear any more.
I just restored my backup and the qwerty keypad is up again. Hope someone knows what is going on, if not, I have to backup everyday!!!

It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"

I have same problem
I give up on the keyboard for now. Not sure what broke it and I didn't backup everyday. Registry looks a bit different for me.

I did this previously at it work very well.
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Originally Posted by beemerTPPC
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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Today it happened again.... lucky I backup last night. 1 hour ago everything was still working. Again.... no new software or settings changed. What could be the problem?
I checked the settings are still the same.... now even suggested words don't appear.
Sigh... until a solution can be found... I just have to keep doing backup / restore....

mikeinashed said:
It happened to me too. I changed the registry so I could map keyboard keys to emulators, changing the eT9 IME to the windows mobile default. Perhaps you have done this? If so, change the values back and it fixes the problem after a soft reset.
I think the registry location was HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts
Layout Text should be "eT9 IME",
Ime File should be "\windows\eT9ime.dll"
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I cant choose eT9ime.dll because I really like the suggested words to appear.

This works form every time
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0

cjatcti said:
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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Hmm... strange my CurrentET9Style was set at 8. What does this change do?

thanks. I had the same problem on my HTC Fuze.
This helped: HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
but I have a different problem. (had this before the reg edit)
my problem is: If I write hello it'll automaically become hellHello... and if I write it it'll become iIt.. I switched off capitalization but tht didn;t help!!

Worked!!
This reg change did it for me cheers!!!!

cjatcti said:
Just change
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\Ime.change CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0
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I just started having this same problem today. I tried cjatcti remedy, and it worked so far . QWERTY keyboard is back to normal. If the phone keyboard comes back, I'll let you all know.

Excellent work. Worked very well so now I have the word selection and the keyboard I like. THANKS

Wish
I would have seen this thread before I hard reset.

Changing the CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 works ... but once I go into, say edit a contact, then the number pad will re-appear again. The registry key is modified back to 1 again ... any quick trick to stop this? really don't want to change the key again and again...

I use my Kaiser with the ROM PDA Corner Ultimate X-v9 a six months ago without any problem. Today i saw the first page of the forum the application SMSer from "oldsap". I found interesting and tried to install. Soon after the installation I was testing it and realized that I had the same problem as everyone here. Changing CurrentET9Style from 1 back to 0 solved my problem. I think in my case the problem appeared after the installation of SMSer, so i uninstaled and my QWERTY is working normal now.

Turn off XT9 permanently and stop it from interfering with Swype?

I've installed Swype and really like it. I'm using SIPchange to enable it as a default. Unfortunately, XT9 will interfere with the words selected by Swype even after you've picked the right word. The only way to disable this is to manually change to Touch Input keyboard and disable XT9 on the keyboard before changing back to Swype.
I've already disabled both Spell Correction and Word Completion in Touch Input under Settings> Personal> Input> Touch Input> Options, but XT9 still turns on the next time I restart the phone.

Hi, I'm using swype too and haven't noticed any interference from XT9, but I might not have known what I'm looking for.
What are your symptoms?

I have had that happen to me before on certain Roms... cant tell you which one... usually, it works fine (I am using Topix Rom now)
When it did happen, I turned off XT9 under the settings but I ALSO opened the default keyboard and turned it off there but pressing the key.... moved back to swype after that and the xt9 word options were gone... just the usual swype dictionary/options at times.... Soft reset didn't change anything... it was all ok still
Hope this helps

Unfortunately for me, once I shutdown/soft reset the phone, XT9 is automatically activated on the Touch Input keyboard again even though everything has already been turned off in the Settings>Personal>Input. Also, it seems that the Touch Input keyboard automatically defaults to one of the Chinese input methods instead of English. Maybe that's where the problem lies. Where can I default the Touch Input keyboard to English?
BTW, I have my Locale set as Australia, so that isn't the problem.
The symptoms are: Once you've "Swyped" the word and pick the one you want, XT9 then shows up with it's word choices and either shows the same word or if I have it initial caps, make it all small letters
I also noticed that in Settings>Personal>Input, when I select Swype then click the "OK" button, it doesn't save the selection, and goes back to "Touch Input" when I open the "Input" dialogue again. I guess this probably means that some of my registry entries are toast...

That is indeed weird... do you have something like SIP change installed? I use that to start Swype by default during startup after a restart.. Don't know if that might help...

Yes, I do have SIPchange installed, but it's already set to Swype as the default.

I had the same problem and this is my partial solution.
Go to HKLM/Softwares/Tegic/eT9/IsSupportMSSIPContact
Change the Dword from 1 to 0.
this will get rid of XT9 for Swype but only if it is NOT the default. Therefore, there is the nagging inconvenience of having to change it to Swype every time your soft reset. But it is better than that nothing.

Thanks for the partial solution. It's at least better than what I'm doing now after every reboot, which is to:
1. change Swype to Touch Input
2. change Touch Input to EN so that the keyboard shows up
3. click on the XT9/ABC button
4. change Touch Input back to Swype..
One thing to note, I just went to the registry and there isn't the value you listed. However, there is the following string value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\LRU_MS_InputMethod and the value is Swype.
I'm wondering if this is what is causing XT9 to activate when Swype is active.. Do you have this value in your registry? what value is it?
Quick edit to note that I added a DWORD IsSupportMSSIPContact with value "0" and soft reset... Sorry to say that it didn't disable XT9 even if Touch Input was defaulted. Guess my problem is slightly different than yours.

Yes, all those values are the same. Need ot check if you also disable xt9 using some .cab. If not then you will need to do the following:
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Ime File
Change it to read as compime.dll
and
HKLM\System\CurrentControlSet\Control\Layouts\e0010409\Layout Text
Change to COMP IME
This will disable eT9. Please remember the original values should you want to revert back.
I think that should work.
have fun.

weenween, the two registry values you gave are already what is on my phone..
But XT9 still enables itself when I restart the phone. I've now resigned myself to disabling XT9 on the Touch Input keyboard manually each time I restart the phone.
In any case, thanks for your help.

I have exactly the same problem adn symptoms as GregWee. Must be becasue we both have Hong Kong HD2s where the default english keyboard is PinYin?

I have a similar issue. I have a TMOUS HD2 with QQ 2010 mobile loaded on it for chinese text entry. The QQ keypad has become the default everytime I reboot - entirely unwanted. Somehow it interferes with the contact dropdown list in messaging and email. It has something to do with the T9 staying on when entering a contact name. I installed sipchange but it does not overide the QQ default after a soft reset.
After changing between keyboards a few time it begins to work properly in email and then finally in messages. Right now, since the last soft reboot and playing around, when I am in either email or messages the stock keyboard will automatically switch from T9 to abc when I move the cursor to enter a contact name. The contacts appear as I type as they should. Swype works fine too. I have no idea what I did to get it to work but I have had the same experience several times today. Hopefully I will figure it out.
I would like to know a way to override the QQ as the default keyboard. I think this might fix the problem.
Any suggestions?

keyboard keeps resetting to default

I installed the touch keyboard + touch keypad and changed the immission setting in the system. When I switch off and on the keyboard resets to the default one. How can I avoid this?

You haven't posted what keyboard exactly, the rom you use, or your phone details. Can you get these and I can have a look