Good Afternoon to all,
Quick background info. I have a Touch HD successfully syncing with Windows XP SP2 & ActiveSync in my office, and also Vista Ultimate 64bit SP1 with mobile device manager (or whatever the inbuilt version is called ) at home.
The sync between all three works flawlessly and more than happy with it and have always got access to a working up to date calendar.
However there is one difference, when my phone is sat in its cradle connected via USB to my home PC (vista) it will sync but also allow data connection so, although not really required, it will continue to check for emails, update stocks etc etc. When I am in my office (XP) and try and use anything with regards to connecting to a data connection as listed above, it will not, displaying unable to connect on the weather/stocks tab, or just error in emails.
Any ideas how I can get the XP machine to do what I get with the vista machine? the only way i am working around it at the moment is on the XP machine unticking allow USB connections, removing and re-connecting phone and then it does not connect to ActiveSync and allows a data connection. This works but not the greatest way to do things as have to remember to do the reverse to sync it back again.
Sorry to go on for a bit but wanted to get in as much info as possible in the hope someone may be able to help with my dilemma.
Regards
Jody
Hi Jody,
Is your ActiveSync (on Windows XP) the latest available version ?
Have you checked that all settings are the same on both computers ? (well, as Active Sync is different from Mobile Device Manager, some settings are not called the same).
As a side note, how did you manage to sync your HD with Vista 64 ?
There are so much people complaining it doesn't work.
Did you use the standard v6.0 version "Windows Mobile Device Manager" that is already available in Vista, or did you upgrade to v6.1 ?
Cheers.
When it's synced at home, your Touch HD is using your computers internet connection to update stocks, weather e-mails etc.
When it's synced at work, your device is trying to use your work's internet connection, and failing. Your employer is more than likely not allowing the internet traffic. Do you know if you use a proxy server to connect to the web at work? Do you have unrestricted internet access or is there a firewall?
I do not know enough about how Activesync passes your internet connection to your device. Perhaps someone else knows whether or not this traffic is port 80 and whether or not Activesync automatically uses Internet Explorer's proxy settings, as it is not a global OS thing. Your mail will be pop3 or imap, which are not port 80, in which case the connection to your mail server may be blocked by your employer.
phonatrep - I sync my Touch HD with Vista Home Professional x64 fine straight out of the box, although I think I downloaded the latest WMDC from Microsoft because it does not come bundled with Vista AFAIK.
All the settings are correct, however we do have a rather strict internet firewall running through a proxy. Although I have unrestricted internet access, webmail access is blocked across the board, I am wondering if this is whats stopping me getting emails etc. As an interesting addition, the weather and stocks will update, just cannot use internet or receive emails.
As for syncing with Vista, I have Vista Ultimate 64bit and downloaded the device manager from the microsoft site as didnt find it as part of the original OS. As far as I remember did not hit any problems, other than me pressing wrong thing on the phone and syncing a complete delete of all contacts... oops! has worked perfectly ever since.
J7ody said:
As for syncing with Vista, I have Vista Ultimate 64bit and downloaded the device manager from the microsoft site as didnt find it as part of the original OS.
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Could you please tell me if you use the device manager v6.0 or v6.1 ?
It seems that's part of the trick to make it work.
Budadank said:
I sync my Touch HD with Vista Home Professional x64 fine straight out of the box, although I think I downloaded the latest WMDC from Microsoft because it does not come bundled with Vista AFAIK.
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Same question, WMDC v6.0 or v6.1 ?
That would be very kind of you, sorry to bother you with that stuff
Thanks !
Anybody ?
That would really help me to know if that's WMDC 6.0 or 6.1 that really works for you on Vista 64 bit.
Thanks !
Am at work at the moment but will have a look tonight for you and let you know.
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Am at work at the moment but will have a look tonight for you and let you know.
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Thanks a lot !
Just wanted to give some feedback too. I am also syncing with Vista x64 and XP x86 without any problems. I checked and am using the WMDC 6.0 on Vista, never had any problems since the very beginning.
remko said:
Just wanted to give some feedback too. I am also syncing with Vista x64 and XP x86 without any problems. I checked and am using the WMDC 6.0 on Vista, never had any problems since the very beginning.
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Thanks for the feedback !
That's strange I hear a lot of people using WMDC 6.0, which is the one included as factory default in Vista.
There is a 6.1 version that allows to use Windows Mobile 6.1, so I will need WMDC 6.1, but I haven't found anyone using WMDC 6.1 with Vista 64.
I have spent a lot of time searching all forums I know.
I still haven't found anyone successfully using WMDC 6.1 with Vista 64 bit.
(it seems everybody use v6.0)
Is there someone here that uses WMDC 6.1 in Vista 64 bit ?
Thanks !
Ok, I now have WMDC 6.1 installed on Vista 64 bit.
I can sync my HTC Touch HD without any problem.
Please note that I followed this procedure :
-Boot as administrator.
-Install Outlook 2007.
-Reboot as administrator.
-Install Outlook 2007 Service Pack 1.
-Reboot as administrator.
-Install WMDC 6.1 (without the phone connected)
-Reboot as your standard user login.
-Connect the phone to the computer, using the USB cable.
Please note that Microsoft documentations are not consistent about whether or not you need to connect your phone "before" or "after" you install WMDC 6.1.
On some documentations Microsoft says "before", on others Microsoft says "after".
Well, I choose to connect my phone "after" WMDC 6.1 was installed and computer rebooted, and it worked.
Maybe people had problems because when they connect their phone, the default Vista WMDC 6.0 installs a driver for it, then WMDC 6.1 comes and have trouble replacing that driver by the new one.
Related
Windows Vista only Uses Mobile Centre.
Windows Vista does not support active sync.
Mobile Centre Only supports Windows Mobile 2003.
Thus.
Vista Does Not Support Windows Mobile 5.
Any Other ways to connect I'm not seeing?
EDIT: My bad, 2003 came before 5, so why is it telling me that it's not supported?
It supports WM5 just fine. Been running Vista since RC1 and have not had any sync problems.
i've been able to use windows vista and have it sync with my wm5 wizard...contact, calendar, etc info appear in outlook just fine after the sync...
Vista was a pain in the ar5e to get WMDC to sync with my k-jam, it is a problem with RNDIS, what you need to do is switch the connection method in Start -> Settings -> Connections USB to PC and set it to serial
then you should be able to get it to work as normal.
HTH
Steve
wurzel555 said:
Vista was a pain in the ar5e to get WMDC to sync with my k-jam, it is a problem with RNDIS, what you need to do is switch the connection method in Start -> Settings -> Connections USB to PC and set it to serial
then you should be able to get it to work as normal.
HTH
Steve
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I can't seem to find that option in the settings. T_T
EDIT: I've never noticed it before, but my phone is also throwing up error messages about how it can't assign an IP to the netowork
ah ha so you have the same prob I had when I tried it initially, the ACU you are using is to old, you need to upgrade it to ACU 3.3 to get the functionality failing that you can install a simple CAB that will give you the functionality. I have no way of sharing the file so if you mail me your email address I can mail it to you.
Cheers
Steve
I had win 2000 and with ASync and every thing works a ok, with desktop connection on to Jas Jar via USB.
I upgraded to win xp sp2, installedt MS ASync 4.5 - since then MS Async has never worked.
Before I installed MS Async and had the jas jar connected via USB, i get the standard windows "new hardware found", I run this wizard buy I get there error, saying cant find software device may not work correctly. So I go ok, lets install MS Async 4.5.
I do this, and I connect the Jas Jar to the desktop PC via usb, yet the MS Async cant find a connection.
Yes the cables are all connected, Zone Alarm turned off, and also the XP sp2 firewall is turned off as well.
Any ideas ????
Active Sync 4.5 changes the way it connects from USB Serial Sync Mode to RNDIS Sync Mode. This can cause problems (it does for me). There is a little Microsoft program called ActiveSync Mode which allows you to change back. I you search on the web & find "ActiveSyncMode.sa.CAB" this will install the program. You then go into programs & you will see a new Icon for ActiveSync Mode. Hope this works for you.
Active sync problems
all worked fine now
thanks for the help guys
was thinking of trading in for an Iphone as they have dropped in price to 169 quid !
anyone think this would be a bad idea ?
I'l give this a go myself.
After experimenting with my exec/universal I discovered Activesync 4.5 on my XP Desktop works with the WM6 ROM but not the WM5 one.
But Vista on my Laptop will sync with Windows Mobile 5
I'll certainly check Activesync mode out then I can go back to WM5 as the Ranju core doesnt have msn otherwise everything works really well on it.
Where does th CAB file install to? I tried it on my XDAmini-s/Vario and it still doesnt sync with Activesync4.5
Hello JohnWB
It works for me too !!!!!!
Thank you very much indeed
Louis
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Active Sync 4.5 changes the way it connects from USB Serial Sync Mode to RNDIS Sync Mode. This can cause problems (it does for me). There is a little Microsoft program called ActiveSync Mode which allows you to change back. I you search on the web & find "ActiveSyncMode.sa.CAB" this will install the program. You then go into programs & you will see a new Icon for ActiveSync Mode. Hope this works for you.
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thanks a bunch, works fine after your advise, only had to install activesync 4.5 after installing activesync.mod to my mda
thanks again
Hi!
I had activesync 4.5 installed in XP and I updated my windows to vista recently. The problem is when I turn on my computer or connect my ppc to the computer, activesync 4.5 pop up and try to install itself, and then it said program can not be installed. Anyone knows how to remove activesync 4.5 from my machine or at least disable it.
Thanks a lot!
mmh, as far as i know there is NO "active sync" on vista and you cant "update" xp to vista. vista uses "windows mobile device center" so search and download this. install it before connecting your ppc.
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mmh, as far as i know there is NO "active sync" on vista and you cant "update" xp to vista. vista uses "windows mobile device center" so search and download this. install it before connecting your ppc.
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Thanks for your quick response! Anyway, I do have moblile center 6.1 installed and it works perfect with my kaiser. The problem is activesync 4.5 keep poping up all the time when my kaiser connecting to my PC, or my PC is turned on. It won't go away even after I deleted the whole directory of activesync 4.5.
I too upgraded XP to Vista.
I don't have the issue with it popping up all the time; hell WMDC 6.1 doesn't pop up and I have to manually launch it, and it sets off UAC (which I have to have turned on so that the Live Mesh CLient will run.....the sooner that gets fixed the better!)
I can seen active sync 4.5 in my Add/Remove Programmes list but cannot uninstall it from them.
I guess I should have listened to advice and done a fresh install with my copy of Vista rather than the upgrade option! Do't have any of these problems on my laptop which came preinstalled with Vista (except for having to keep UAC on but that's a Mesh issue).
I've been checking microsoft website, and there are some other people have same problem, but with no solution even from microsoft, looks the only way to get ride of it is re-install a clean vista, but that's too much work to do!
YOU GUYS updated from xp to vista ??
BAD IDEA, didnt know that this is possible, but you SHOULD always start with a clean and new system if you install a new windows version.
So this is definitly the problem. ANd only one solution
Try this press start and type msconfig in the search then press enter
should pop up systemconfig then go to start tab and look for wcescomm and uncheck it.
restart pc and now Activesync should be gone or at leased not popup
I can't sync my HD with Vista Ultimate.
I have Mobile Device Center 6.1 (MDC) with all updates and the mobile resources the device CD.
When I connect it with the cable "Windows Mobile-based Device" appear in Windows Device Manager but MDC does not recognise it.
I've tried both enhanced and ordinary data rate option in "USB to PC" settings.
On the other hand the device syncs perfectly with my laptop with the same Vista and MDC versions.
Please advise.
P.S. Excuse my poor English.
i think...
I think you have to dele the client on you device in Active sync in order to create a new and sync on computer 2.
error messages
are you receiving error messages in relation the RNDIS????
No ... there are no error messages.
I've already tried to delete all the partnerships ... and there is no improvement.
I've synced my old phone with the same both PCs ... so there shouldn't be any problems.
Same here,
New HD - connecting it to, Vista 32 Business, doesn't recognize the phone.
Looked everywhere. Vista tries to load Generic RNDIS driver but fails.
Tried windows update no go
Oh have installed Vista's SP2 beta, don't know if that matters
settings
did you try to change:
settings --> connections --> USB to PC --> disable (fast data synchronisation) under active sync
that was it with my vista..
greetz.. migo
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No ... there are no error messages.
I've already tried to delete all the partnerships ... and there is no improvement. I've synced my old phone with the same both PCs ... so there shouldn't be any problems.
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Same problem here. Solved by uninstalling WMDC, reboot PC and reinstall WMDC.
Ton V
Same problem with Vista 64 Ultimate.
Unsolved as yet, but I switched to syncing over BlueTooth and that's fine.
Syncing the HD over USB works on my laptop.
Thanks mate, your solution worked for me. Cheers
has anyone figured out syncing with vista ...mine was waorking but now vista updated to 6.1 it won't sync
Try going to Start-Settings-System-USB to PC- and check Enable Advanced Network Functionality
I have tried that ...im lost trying to sync with vista ....active sync 4.5 does not work with vista
you have to use winmo device center and be sure to set it to view all files so u can see the windows folder
WMDC
That's correct you need windmo device center. Active sync is only for x leaving you w/only one option get a compatible product to syncronise on VISTA only. There should be a tread on one of the forums.
Good luck!
i have windows mobile device center 6.1 and it still dont work...has anyone got it to work
1milenia said:
i have windows mobile device center 6.1 and it still dont work...has anyone got it to work
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What ROM are you using? I am running Vista Ultimate 32 bit and can sync with my phone. Every once in a while it won't connect. All I do is unplug phone, then I kill mobsync.exe, wmdc.exe, then plug phone back in and wait a few seconds. Most times it connects, but sometimes I have to click on the WMDC icon on my desktop to get it to re initiate the connection...try that and hope it works.
wonder what happened why so many people has this problem...was it when microsoft updated to wmdc 6.1
well ill have to get rid of this phone and get the g1
you can always go back to version 6.0:
http://www.microsoft.com/DOWNLOADS/...FamilyID=83d513ea-9df9-4920-af33-3a0e2e4e7beb
i tried that with no luck