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GPS satellite detection

Hi, I've got TomTom Navigator 6 installed on my Trinity and it all works fine, except it takes about 5 minutes before it picks up any satellites when I run it - does anybody know if there's a fix to enable to gps chip to pick up satellites a bit quicker than this? Even when I'm outside and away from tall buildings it's the same. Any help or suggestions would be great.
Thanks

Works fine on my Trinity. I think I have the following : Trinity-Radio-ROM-1[1].41.00.11-by-ZakMcRofl, installed so maybe try putting this Radio ROM on. There maybe better Radio ROMs but this one works fine for me.
Less than a minute from a cold start and even works inside the house. It is faster at getting a fix than my Kaiser.

I have the official HTC ROM upgrade on my Trinity and like the OP it takes a wee while to get a fix. I am learninig to live with it.

in my rom i have a program called "QuickGPS"; every 3 days it downloads a file (few KB) that contains some data about satellite positions - this should accelerate FIXing process... in theory.
Try it!
An alternative could be having GPS "always on" with another program running minimized!

I have the exact the same problem using destinator! Well i just read somewhere that a prog called "gps gate" seems to make our job but i dont know yet.I have to find it and try it. Plus i dont want to have always gps on cause i need battery to speak...

as mentioned in a previous post, id check the radio version u have installed, and maybe update it mate....
different radio versions run differently with roms......its pot luck.
try the 1.46....or the 1.50 radio....they work well on mine...
Radio 1.38.00.11
Radio 1.41.00.11
Radio 1.46.00.11/30.11
Radio 1.50.08.11

I tried the Radio 1.50.08.11 and found that it indeed did pick up GPS 2x faster than my original Radio, issue was it has no 3G capability, it switched me to EDGE, so I went back.
Also HTC QuickGPS fails to download the updates for me....

You can try that :
http://rapidshare.com/files/25607303/SeaSGEE.exe
It's like QuickGPS ...
Just run it each time before using the GPS (don't wait the 3 days) ... It's works fine for me ...

try PDAMOBIZ ROM's
try PDAMOBIZ ROM's for me they can get a much faster fix than all the others
maybe due to some tweaks - not sure but costantly got a fix in <60sec. compared to 4/5 min. in the same location

................or you could try the new radio thats out as of today for the trinity......
1.56.70.11

desolateone said:
I tried the Radio 1.50.08.11 and found that it indeed did pick up GPS 2x faster than my original Radio, issue was it has no 3G capability, it switched me to EDGE, so I went back.
Also HTC QuickGPS fails to download the updates for me....
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Radio 1.50.08.11 works like a charm for me....full 3G and HSDPA so I am not sure what the problem is on your P3600i.
I have found that GPS Quick Position is useful (even if just for the Placebo effect). Time to first fix is not an issue for me....lots of people complain about it on the Trinity and compare it to the PNA GPS units...but really there has to be something of a compromise on a phone/GPS/PDA otherwise the thing would be a Laptop.

Andych said:
Radio 1.50.08.11 works like a charm for me....full 3G and HSDPA so I am not sure what the problem is on your P3600i.
I have found that GPS Quick Position is useful (even if just for the Placebo effect). Time to first fix is not an issue for me....lots of people complain about it on the Trinity and compare it to the PNA GPS units...but really there has to be something of a compromise on a phone/GPS/PDA otherwise the thing would be a Laptop.
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I'm trialling 1.56.70.11 now, but again it has switched me to EGDE.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2396785#post2396785

Does Vogue have GPS Hardware receiver ???

Hi all.
Ia have a trinity and i am very happy with it. Currently Running FiNix WM6.1 Cooked rom... It has GPS Chip enabled.
A friend of mine bought a Vogue and at the store was told it had no GPS Receiver.
Is this true, or is it just sleeping till you upgrade radio like on the trinity???

Got a Bell Vogue flashed with alltell/JD and GPS is working fine

I got a Sprint Touch (Vogue) flashed with the Alltel rom (just for the radio) and JD's 6.1 Sprint rom. GPS works great, no wifi though, but who needs wifi with an unlimited RevA plan?

Chaplan said:
Hi all.
Ia have a trinity and i am very happy with it. Currently Running FiNix WM6.1 Cooked rom... It has GPS Chip enabled.
A friend of mine bought a Vogue and at the store was told it had no GPS Receiver.
Is this true, or is it just sleeping till you upgrade radio like on the trinity???
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+1... I've been happily using GPS on my Vogue since Friday...
As long as you are in fact talking about the HTC Touch (CDMA Version) a.k.a. Vogue then yes it most certainly does have a GPS chipset. Although I wouldn't necessarily expect all store sales staff to know that... There are many that most definitely would but you know...

EliteXen said:
I got a Sprint Touch (Vogue) flashed with the Alltel rom (just for the radio) and JD's 6.1 Sprint rom. GPS works great, no wifi though, but who needs wifi with an unlimited RevA plan?
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I agree altho I do miss being able to browse network folders and use wifirouter to share my connection.

Um, so is it aGPS or hardware?
The question in the OP was not answered. Is the gps functionality in the HTC Vogue based on the quallcomm e911 aGPS, or is it a *REAL GPS CHIP*. Does it work when you are out of range of cell phone service, or does it work well indoors? Does the phone use both aGPS and real GPS?

d1rtyd33z said:
The question in the OP was not answered. Is the gps functionality in the HTC Vogue based on the quallcomm e911 aGPS, or is it a *REAL GPS CHIP*. Does it work when you are out of range of cell phone service, or does it work well indoors? Does the phone use both aGPS and real GPS?
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It was answered. It is a real GPS receiver, it works otu of the range of cell phone service. It doesn't work too well in doors, but not many real GPS receivers do. It doesn't appear to be using aGPS at the moment and my TTF is can be up to several minutes depending on location and aerial visiblity. It works right away with Google Maps (which is free) and once the fix is obtained with GPS Viewer it also works with TomTom 6.

tomtom signal problem

every time I start tomtom, it always take a long time to get signal. sometimes, it even take an hour to get signal, or can't get signal after an hour.
is this because of the radio?

citrix80 said:
every time I start tomtom, it always take a long time to get signal. sometimes, it even take an hour to get signal, or can't get signal after an hour.
is this because of the radio?
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How about some more informations?
Which radio are you using, do you use quick gps, ...
TDO

yes, i use quick GPS. radio version is 1.70 Olinex. it is from polaris unlocker.

citrix80 said:
yes, i use quick GPS. radio version is 1.70 Olinex. it is from polaris unlocker.
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Are you sure?
There are only this version available for the polaris:
Polaris Radio 1.58.21.23
Polaris Radio 1.58.25.14
Polaris Radio 1.58.26.20
Polaris Radio 1.64.06.04
Polaris Radio 1.64.08.21
TDO

You forgot Radio 1.58.23.21 which is also available.
Where do you use it, in your livingroom, outside, in a city jungle or open field, in your car, ...?
Do you/did you regularily use Quick GPS to update your ephemeris data? (sat positions around the globe)
Is your polaris in a case? Metal, leather or plastic?
Does this happen after a hardreset or directly after you flashed a new ROM?

same thing happen in my house, in car, or outside. i'm using a sillicone cover i got from ebay, it is something like a thick rubber that cover the phone. but same problem before i had the case.
I do use quick GPS regularly. this is same with stock wm6 rom and bepe wm6.1 rom which i'm using right now.

Hmm... maybe I overreact but could be a hardware failure. Dont know, but I tend to say that if the stock ROM doesnt work either with certain components, they must be broken.
I for myself would install one of the many GPS testing tools available which can monitor everything which has to do with GPS. I'd use it to see if you have NO incoming signals at all while waiting or if the device gets signals from satellites but cant fix them or whatever the matter could be.

GPS signal

hello
has anyone considered a way to boost gps signal?
i am pretty disappointed about GPS on my treo, i tried to use it in high mountain without positive results, it also works bad/or doesn't work at all when the weather is bad
there are many external antennas but as far as i know it's useless for treo 850 because of lack of output :/
any ideas ??
i use tt7, igo8
one more thing, after 1-2hours of using gps tomtom claims that it can't find gps modul and i have to restart treo... is this issue of app or device ??

where are you using it? Did I get it right that you are using a version with the german rom in the US?
I used a US GSM Treo Pro for about the weeks for the specific purpose of testing against my Treo 800w and found the GSM Pro GPS to be excellent. I
You now it can go between aGPS and standalone but aGPS depends on proper settings for a carrier in the region you are in, right?

I used it in Italy, for now i use treo in Poland it works however i expected better quality, i found another thing after 1-2 hours of using gps - phone has 40 'C, this is pretty high isn't it?

marcinsoo said:
I used it in Italy, for now i use treo in Poland it works however i expected better quality, i found another thing after 1-2 hours of using gps - phone has 40 'C, this is pretty high isn't it?
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The phone is going to get hot after two hours of using GPS (or watching video).
I find the GPS to be pretty good on the unlocked GSM Treo Pro here in the U.S. Starting QuickGPS and downloading updated satellite data, then opening Google Maps results in resonably fast GPS locks for me. Do you have A-GPS enabled or disabled?

i've got german version so i hard to say :/ but i quess i do not use A-GPS

marcinsoo said:
i've got german version so i hard to say :/ but i quess i do not use A-GPS
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I used the GPS on my Treo Pro outside today for the first time (using driving directions in Google Maps) and it worked flawlessly. It locked on in less than a minute and never dropped the signal while I drove to my destination.
I have A-GPS disabled via the Advanced Configuration utility. Do you know the specs on the German version? What GPS application are you using? Did you try getting a lock with an application like GPS Test then opening your GPS maps program?

i use tomtom 7.9 & IGo8. Both work quite good, but i found that after ~1hour they lose connection :/ therefore i claim that gps modul is poor in my treo and i

marcinsoo said:
i use tomtom 7.9 & IGo8. Both work quite good, but i found that after ~1hour they lose connection :/ therefore i claim that gps modul is poor in my treo and i
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I wonder if there is a "GPS timeout" buried somewhere in the registry? I haven't had the GPS running for more than 30 minutes at a time - it has worked fine for me.

works perfectly , i installed new tomtom 7 915

GPS - no fix

Hi, I got my Topaz today and im very dissapointed, I have no gps fix in any navigation software even in google maps, its still seeking for gps satellites (0) but no progress. Did anyone see this problem before, any solution or I've got damaged device and I must send it back?
// ok now, i got already fix fine but it takes couple of hours to get it, interesting.

a clouple of hours for a fix? that doesn't sound right, have you updated quick gps?

I followed the advice here:
http://blog.mohdimran.com/htc-touch-pro-gps-problem-tweaking/
and haven't had problems since. Even after an extended period of non use I get a fix after 1-2 minutes.

Use:
Com-port=4
Baudrate=57600

Are you inside a building or utside ?

Also if you have installed the VOIP cab file then your GPS will not work and you need to follow this post to rename a file and then restart your phone. After i did this my GPS worked very well and I get a fix within 20-30 seconds!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=402228&page=8

With Com-port 4 and Baudrate 57600 i have when i ma outside a fix within 5 seconds!!
When i walk inside my house iGO8 will keep a GPS fix.
I must say that i own a old house from 1923 with no concrete and rebar so that helps with a GPS fix inside!

how can i set the baudrate when i using the internal gps?

wenxi said:
how can i set the baudrate when i using the internal gps?
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For iGO8 goto: Settings 2/2 and click on GPS, there you can set comport to 4 and baudrate to 57600.
For TomTomNavigator goto Preferences 6 of 6 and click on Configure GPS, then again click on Configure and select: Other NMEA GPS reciever then you can slide the baudrate up to 57600 and after that select com4.
For other navigations i don't know where to set it.

I've done some testing and it looks works properly, when im tryied thirst-fix it was a little rainy day and I've hold a device in a hand and that was the problem i think. Device can't be in movement when I put it on the desk outside of house it allready fix the position ( it takes some time ). So im happy now, good-end story : ) Thx all to yours advices and sorry for my bad english, I'll hope you get the point xD

I notice the same experience:
- It's difficullt to get fix if you hold the phone or when moving
- It will fix easily and take not long for first fix when you put it outdour e.g on top of a car
- Fix time is unstable, sometimes it gets fix in 20-30 seconds but other time it takes long time, even can not fix
Compared to other GPS phone like Nokia 5800, the Topaz GPS reception is very bad.
(PS: I have tried a lots of GPS tweaks, tips but did not help much)

I am using newest Radio - 4.47.25.21 and ofcourse QuickGPS is a prerequisite...I get a fix in 10-20 seconds irrespective if I am standing or moving. Country - Singapore

khemu said:
I am using newest Radio - 4.47.25.21 and ofcourse QuickGPS is a prerequisite...I get a fix in 10-20 seconds irrespective if I am standing or moving. Country - Singapore
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i must agree, since upgrading to the 4.47.25.21 radio my GPS reception has been superb. I generally get a fix in under 30sec.
Even had a fix in my house after installing tomtom to set the preferances, was quite supprised that the GPS was getting signal, something that never happens in my house with any previous device or other radios.
Think if the battery drain is not high this radio will be a keeper

rumpleforeskin said:
i must agree, since upgrading to the 4.47.25.21 radio my GPS reception has been superb. I generally get a fix in under 30sec.
Even had a fix in my house after installing tomtom to set the preferances, was quite supprised that the GPS was getting signal, something that never happens in my house with any previous device or other radios.
Think if the battery drain is not high this radio will be a keeper
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Can you share the 4.47.25.21 radio ? THanks

duongla said:
Can you share the 4.47.25.21 radio ? THanks
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Yeah post it here please http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528040

finally!
Wow, it finally works with radio 4.47.25.22. No more fiddling around. I got a first fix after resetting in about 30 seconds. After that, fixes are almost instantaneous.
I would advise this radio to anyone with gps problems

I have a fix within 2 seconds with stock rom and radio with TomTom Navigator 7 and iGO8
Just set your GPS to:
Com-port: 4
Baud-rate: 57600

Tom Lenferink said:
I have a fix within 2 seconds with stock rom and radio with TomTom Navigator 7 and iGO8
Just set your GPS to:
Com-port: 4
Baud-rate: 57600
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Somehow that doesn't work for everybody, it didn't work for me. (stock rom) but with the new radio it's working now.

Wow woow. Thanks Khemu and rumpleforeskin for sharing your experience with Radio 4.47.25.21
I upgraded the radio and now the GPS is very good. First fix was less than 1 minute, later fix is about 20 seconds.
I have been frustrated for 3 months since I bought the TD2, trying every tweaks and tips. Now. it's wonderful.
Current ROM information:
ROM 1.40.707.2 WWE
Radio 4.47.25.21
Protocol 61.35tc.25.28U

duongla said:
Can you share the 4.47.25.21 radio ? THanks
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obsydian said:
Yeah post it here please http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=528040
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You can download it here: BeeGee's Topaz File Mirror
and here: Rapidshare 1 - Rapidshare 2