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Been searching since I got my HD2, that is 2 months ago now: there is apparently no way to record video in background on this phone, and it is absurd.
I basically need it as a car black box system, to work together with mp3 player and navigation/gps tracking software.
I found a russian pay software that should do exactly that, together with gps overimposing of current speed, but "garbled" is the best adjective to describe it with when installed on the HD2.
I tried QIK and LiveCLIQ, but they do no support HD2 officially, nor the cab that I downloaded for the touchpro2 worked.
Is that possible that the only software able to effectively record video on the HD2 is the builtin HTC camera, which is less than optimal in settings, and is not able to record in background? (even went through all its keys in HKLM and HKCU, but nothing interesting there).
Could any of you suggest a working solution, even if I am widely losing any hope since google didn't turn up anything during all this time?
I am looking for a solution also, tried the russian software too and it was not usable at all. Found a thread about a backgrounding app but doubt it will be any good. So the search continuous. Hope something can be found.
you could still point me to that thread, you never know
I also think that's not feasible because as soon as the camera app loses the focus it seems to stop recording, and that's silly to say the least... but trying won't hurt anyway, at least for the time being, until another app is released.
Depressing that Android is so young and it's already got its freeware car blackbox software, which is even better (on the paper) than the russian pay software.
new version of LiveCLIQ works
hi!
they released a new version (r5075) which finally woks for my HD2.
Find the app here: at LiveCLIQ homepage and select "HTC Touch HD T8282".
Best
good news, will go check right now
Highly disappointed about livecliq:
forces landscape mode... htc camera shows as landscape, but the system is still in portrait, while livecliq actually rotates the display
resources hog, and slow as hell: while the HTC camera displays the images almost realtime as you move the viewport, livecliq lags considerably, and looks more like a fast slideshoq than a real video; while recording, you can put it in background with hide, but the rest of the system is pretty much unuseable from how much slow it is
generally useless for "our" purposes; sure, being able to upload or strem the videos directly online may be a good thing for those who are intrerested, but the developers decided to lock the program to just that function, as the video is recorded as a chain of 1MB max segments in "raw" format, and is not watchable offline
you cannot choose the save location, offline videos are saved under the install folder, which means hell for those who always install to internal memory, and keep the storage card for what it's meant, that it, storage
so well, livecliq is a no go, HTC camera is still the best if only it worked in background.
So I have a few questions about Google maps.
- First, is there anyway to have smooth zooming w/ pinch to zoom?
- Is there anyway to load the images as Im panning? Idk if i'm the only one but when I pan in GMaps, any area that wasn't displayed shows up as gray until I release my finger drag, then the map redraws. Even if I try and pan back the screen seems to have to re fresh, but it only refreshes when I lift my finger up
- And last, any thoughts on Google Navigation coming to the HD2? That would be great if it did.
That's pretty much all I've got. Any help would be awesome
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So I have a few questions about Google maps.
- First, is there anyway to have smooth zooming w/ pinch to zoom?
- Is there anyway to load the images as Im panning? Idk if i'm the only one but when I pan in GMaps, any area that wasn't displayed shows up as gray until I release my finger drag, then the map redraws. Even if I try and pan back the screen seems to have to re fresh, but it only refreshes when I lift my finger up
- And last, any thoughts on Google Navigation coming to the HD2? That would be great if it did.
That's pretty much all I've got. Any help would be awesome
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I don't have any issues with "sketchy" pinch-to-zoom functions in Google Maps. All of "my maps" render just fine, perfectly executed upon request.
As for the Google Navigation program, that does exist, unofficially of course. And you certainly won't find it here... at least not that I know of. Try (ironically) Google searching and you should come across something from another website, very similar to XDA.
Hmmmmm.... Thats good that GNavigation works on the HD2. I'll wait for an official release (unless there is an announcement that it won't officially come to the HD2)
I don't think that the maps are "sketchy". I think I just have a setting or something set that makes them not cache or update during "Pan" events.
As for the zoom, it just feels like there is no tweening between the zoom levels. ie, as I'm pinching, it jumps from level to level w/o any intermediate zooming. I don't know if that makes any sense.
If there isn't any settings that help these then that's cool and I'll just deal with it (my wife has an android phone and I get crap from her cuz "Your phone is the best" but it can't do [insert function] that mine can!)
Thanks!
Hi at all,
I am using a CarCamOne but would like to replace it with my android phone, as the quality is far better.
However, I don't know, if there is a suitable app: I need an app which captures what the camera sees (i.e. the street and the cars) while driving. It does not need to show it, but can run in the background, so that I can use GPS navigation at the same time.
It should be possible to specify a certain path in which the same video gets overwritten everytime I drive. Let's say I drive on January, 1st, so it save 010111.avi, then when I drive next time, it deletes this file and creates one of the specific date, so that I always have the latest drive on my sd card.
This whole thing is meant to be able to prove what happened when an accident has occured.
(I would also accept such a program for Windows Mobile, if there is none for Android.)
Thank you very much!
+1
Want this, too.
I'm driving a lot. German motorways are fast, idiots all around risk is high. There were certan situations in the past where an app like this would be very helpful for evidence.
Would be great if it will work automatically when car mode is detected by snapping the device in the car mount near the window.
I try to but can't remember ... I'm sure that I have seen similar feature in another camera app ... but sorry, memory has gone.
PS: would create finest youtube stuff, too
PPS: maybe something from here: http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/car video recorder "car accident recorder" or "video loop" ?
I tried "video loop" test app with 5 seconds restriction.
In car mode app the cam stood still and stuck.
When trying the programm as a normal application it creates files without file extension (like .mp4 or whatelse). Wondering why it's available in the market.
At myvideoloop.com there is a remark, that the android version is still under development. So, still searching.
Search the market for AutoGuard Blackbox. I haven't tried it, but it sounds like what you are looking for.
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Thanks!
Seems to be pretty well with several options like limit by video size or limit by minutes and so on. Also video quality can be changed in several way.
When linked to the carmode-app it works in my private couch potato mode. Will test it soon while driving the next days.
Some features will work in the paid app only, but the free app should be enough for testing purpose. $1.89 / €1,39 if you wanna have all features. Cheap if it works.
( Can't imaging to use the collision detector. I will recognize an accident by myself - exploding cars are very loud. )
@lamajstro, sorry, for hijacking your thread. Hope it will help you, too.
Thank you all.
Stepsch, no problem at all. Could you please give a feedback to that program after having tested it? That would be great!
Thank you!
I humbly suggest my free app: DailyRoads Voyager. You can search for it on the Android Market. More info here: http://www.dailyroads.com/voyager.php
Video Road (http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-androidlab-videoroad-qnEmF.aspx) also seems to have decent reviews...
I tested AutoGuard Blackbox for only few km until now.
It was working from a link in the car app as expected. I used the original shipped micro USB cable with a car charger, so the phone switched immediately to car mode. The app does what it says with standard settings. It feels a little bit ... how should I say ... cumbersome or sluggish. But this could be caused by my individual phone setup.
DailyRoads Voyager: installed only, but not tested in car so far. When using at home it feels a lil bit more lightweigt, fluently than AutoGuard.
Would be great to send the videos to an hoster of your choice. Until now it can be sent to Daily Roads Website. To be honest - I am lil bit to paranoid to send it over there, I also try not to use most social hubs.
Will take a look at Video Road too.
Testing those stuff creates lots of workload, as there are so much settings available for video quality and lots more. Won't be easy to get comparable results.
So, now I am with DailyRoads Voyager, which works well in the background.
Issues: GPS position is often incorrect and km/h is always zero or much to slow.
An additional running navi app was a little bit too much for the i9000, both app slightly stuck from time to time.
Glad to hear you made the wise choice
The GPS position and speed values depend on what the GPS sensor relays back to the apps. I don't do any calculations for speed, except the conversion from m/s (what Android provides) to km/h or mph.
I've noticed that the speed readings become more accurate when the number of visible satellites increases. In the next version of the app (1.6) I show the number of satellites, and filter out speed readings obtained with 4 or less satellites.
Beta versions of v.1.6 are currently in tests, and I expect to release it to the Android Market in about a week. Will post here when this happens.
Good news! Thx a lot! Looking forward your ping.
Speed is not so important while driving. Also the position is not sooo critical. But maybe it will be helpful in case of accident as evidence, when the videos have time stamp, defined position and correct speed - when one crashes in a gasoline truck.
Indeed, the GPS info is not always important. But, video evidence is, as explained in this recent TV news: "Victim uses smartphone app to record hit-and-run"
http://www.wbir.com/news/article/156830/2/Victim-uses-smartphone-app-to-record-hit-and-run
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I humbly suggest my free app: DailyRoads Voyager. You can search for it on the Android Market. More info here: http://www.dailyroads.com/voyager.php
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Man, you have *no* idea how much this app is going to help me out! *EXACTLY* what I'm looking for, thank you.
Anyone want to recommend a windshield mount?
I dont need the full blown N1 mount from google/htc, and a lot of the cheaper ones on ebay look like they would do the trick, but the bigger question is, if the mount will end up in the frame of what DRV is recording?
One prob is: most cheap mountings that I saw until now are somehow not stable. They let the phone vibrate all the time and your eyes have to vibrate in same frequency when you want to watch the vids afterwards.
Important is a stable and short neck between windshield sucker and the device itsself.
Third party products or those universal mounting need mostly one hand more to connect the USB charger in the phone. A lil bit uncomfortable, but if this isn't a issue for you, you should take care that it can't vibrate so much only.
Brodit seems to have good reputation and has lot of matching parts.
It took more than I expected to finalize the beta tests, but now DailyRoads Voyager version 1.6 is on the Android Market. Added quite a number of features, and the full changelog is listed here: http://dailyroads.com/voyager/changelog
i tried DailyRoads Voyager v1.6 on my Desire HD. i'm sorry to inform you that i had no chance but uninstalled it within an hour.
with it on at the background for some minutes, my device automatically rebooted itself (knowing that it was a known issue in capturing GPS signal, i've turned off the option of using GPS signal in DailyRoads Voyager). i had to uninstalled it after auto-rebooting the third time.
Sorry for causing such problems The symptoms seem to indicate incompatibilities between video resolution/encoder/format. If you have Android 2.2 installed, it'd be best to select HQ (High Quality) in the app, and only try CQ (Custom Quality) settings if you know your device can handle those. The native camera app can also be used to manually determine what the camera is capable of.
Hi
I've tried DailyRoads on SGS 2.2.1 (JPY) with root/lagfix and i'm having strange problems with it ...
It looks like DailyRoads makes problem with cache of system or sth like that - after 1st time install and run, everything was great through about 5 mins until freeze and autoreset ... then i had all my apps settings erased (contacts, smooth calendar settings, gameloft games savegames etc.), icons/shortcuts layout set to default, menu sorted alphabeticaly and every app with account like facebook, twitter, google reader started to freeze so i've erased cache of DailyRoads and all of those freezing apps but it didn't work. I had to reinstall those apps to fix it, and configure them/other apps again ;/
Doing this i've also uninstalled DailyRoads, and since my SGS was quite well configured again i started to think to give it 2nd chance ;>
It's sad it happened again, but this time after about 10-15 mins of using DailyRoads, and it only erased cache setting of smooth calendar and extended controls so i've uninstalled DailyRoads again
I'm not 100% sure why it's happening but until today i didn't have any problems, and it happened twice while i was testing dailyroads ... maybe it's because of lagfix ?
Anyone having similar problems ?
Besides DailyRoads is gr8 and i'd even buy it if it wasn't free ... and causing such problems on my SGS
In the event that others may find it useful or interesting, I’ve been trying to use my Xoom as sort of a “Home Control Unit”. The basic idea is that the Xoom would become a sort of home “companion” device. Whether it’s the living room, bedroom, bathroom, etc, the control of the homes main systems from a single consolidated handheld UI.
The first evolution was simply installing IP Cam on it to view the few network cameras that I have in and around the house…nothing kinky (front door, alley, general perimeter and points of entry stuff). Works like a champ. I have a couple of widgets on my main home screen that do not update very often (user defined) that offer one click access to real-time video streams from any of the cameras or combined/matrix view. Nothing ground-breaking, but fun to geek out over. Want to see who’s at the front door? Pick up the Xoom and see…etc.
The Xoom actually served VERY well as a camera placement tester. When I was positioning the actual cameras, I had the Xoom sitting next to them, showing the current video (allowing me to tweak angles, focus, etc).
The next step will be implementing one of the home control systems (probably a MiCasa device which handles X10, Zigby and ZWave protocols) that I would access from the Xoom. This would allow me to control everything from lights, thermostat, etc to temp and water alarms. Hopefully, it will happen sooner rather than later.
Anyway, it seemed like a pretty low-level of effort thing that others might get a kick out of...
I'm quite interested in this can you detail what cameras and software you use? i've been thinking about doing something like this as well
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I'm quite interested in this can you detail what cameras and software you use? i've been thinking about doing something like this as well
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Right now, all of my cameras are TrendNets, but I made the mistake of getting cams from each of their classes (SecureView and Pro). For some damn reason, the bundled software can only manage cameras in the same family. That just makes managing things like recording and desktop views etc from a PC a pain, but no real difference on the Xoom.
Each camera (as well as those of most other IP camera brands that ive looked at) has the ability to set up motion detection and subsequent recording from their respective web interfaces, so as long as you have an app that can reach into network files shares, etc, you can even pull up historical feeds. The guy that makes the IP Cam android app updates pretty often (I'd say there's been an update every 3rd or 4th time I check for updates) and maintains a seemingly long list of suppored cameras.
If the main goal is to simply view from the xoom and basic recording onto a PC, then it doesn't really matter what brand/model of network camera you get. The only trick is to make sure you know where you want to put them before you buy them .... things like indoor/outdoor, power over ethernet and pan and tilt options are usually dictated by where you want to put them and it sucks when you realize you'd rather have bought different cams.
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Right now, all of my cameras are TrendNets, but I made the mistake of getting cams from each of their classes (SecureView and Pro). For some damn reason, the bundled software can only manage cameras in the same family. That just makes managing things like recording and desktop views etc from a PC a pain, but no real difference on the Xoom.
Each camera (as well as those of most other IP camera brands that ive looked at) has the ability to set up motion detection and subsequent recording from their respective web interfaces, so as long as you have an app that can reach into network files shares, etc, you can even pull up historical feeds. The guy that makes the IP Cam android app updates pretty often (I'd say there's been an update every 3rd or 4th time I check for updates) and maintains a seemingly long list of suppored cameras.
If the main goal is to simply view from the xoom and basic recording onto a PC, then it doesn't really matter what brand/model of network camera you get. The only trick is to make sure you know where you want to put them before you buy them .... things like indoor/outdoor, power over ethernet and pan and tilt options are usually dictated by where you want to put them and it sucks when you realize you'd rather have bought different cams.
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Ah yea i'll research a bunch of cameras before i buy any that's for sure
I'd like to be able to control pretty much everything in my home from a tablet, view and adjust temps, lights, view current power usage something to interface with Google PowerMeter sounds like a good idea to me
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Ah yea i'll research a bunch of cameras before i buy any that's for sure
I'd like to be able to control pretty much everything in my home from a tablet, view and adjust temps, lights, view current power usage something to interface with Google PowerMeter sounds like a good idea to me
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For the actual controlling of home systems, I've been looking at the following:
http://www.micasaverde.com/
The actual control unit is the Vera. I know that theres a Vera 2 running around somewhere, but I cant find it on their site right now.
http://shop.micasaverde.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=100&products_id=88
Great find! We are building a new house and I've been searching around trying to find a solution like this.
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Right now, all of my cameras are TrendNets, but I made the mistake of getting cams from each of their classes (SecureView and Pro). For some damn reason, the bundled software can only manage cameras in the same family. That just makes managing things like recording and desktop views etc from a PC a pain, but no real difference on the Xoom.
Each camera (as well as those of most other IP camera brands that ive looked at) has the ability to set up motion detection and subsequent recording from their respective web interfaces, so as long as you have an app that can reach into network files shares, etc, you can even pull up historical feeds. The guy that makes the IP Cam android app updates pretty often (I'd say there's been an update every 3rd or 4th time I check for updates) and maintains a seemingly long list of suppored cameras.
If the main goal is to simply view from the xoom and basic recording onto a PC, then it doesn't really matter what brand/model of network camera you get. The only trick is to make sure you know where you want to put them before you buy them .... things like indoor/outdoor, power over ethernet and pan and tilt options are usually dictated by where you want to put them and it sucks when you realize you'd rather have bought different cams.
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Have you tried the IP Camera App from the market? I use it on my Galaxy S paired with a wireless FOSCAM. Works great and has a 2x2 mode as well as a 3x3 mode.
Only have my camera setup for my son's room and haven't enabled access from anything outside our wireless network, so I haven't been able to see it from work, but I think it's interesting.
I've been looking at zigbee and x10 solutions as well. Not to outfit the whole house, but some exterior lighting and stereo.
Have you all looked at HomeSeer?
That have an android app:
www.homeseer.com
http://board.homeseer.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1047
im interested to know what the community thinks of the pro's and con's of WP7 on our HD2's so far. this can include facts or opinions. i'll start it off...
pro - 720p recording
con - wont play divx movies
i have a bunch of cons honestly, but i'd like to hear what everyone else has to say first lol
Only big issues I have with WP7
1. nav software is absolute ****. Google Maps leaves it in the dust.
2. No quick toggle for wireless/bluetooth/3g etc...
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Only big issues I have with WP7
1. nav software is absolute ****. Google Maps leaves it in the dust.
2. No quick toggle for wireless/bluetooth/3g etc...
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yeah i've noticed the same couple things. having to go through several menu's to get to the wifi isn't very fun. there's probably an app somewhere, but honestly it's a feature that should be built right in.
as for the maps, im in total agreement. in fact im still using my old htc excalibur (tmobile dash) for it's ability to use garmin which doesn't require a data connection. not a good idea to depend on satellites if you go out hiking ya know lol. i prefer to have all my maps accessible from the memory card.
errr... flash browser?
i'm sticking with android for definate til they sort that one out!!!
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yeah i've noticed the same couple things. having to go through several menu's to get to the wifi isn't very fun. there's probably an app somewhere, but honestly it's a feature that should be built right in.
as for the maps, im in total agreement. in fact im still using my old htc excalibur (tmobile dash) for it's ability to use garmin which doesn't require a data connection. not a good idea to depend on satellites if you go out hiking ya know lol. i prefer to have all my maps accessible from the memory card.
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Although I'm willing to put up with those things because the interface is so far ahead of android/iOS. It would be nice to get these fixed. I really seems like MS is going at this half assed, just like they did with the ZuneHD (another awesome device that never got proper marketing).
Oh and I forgot
3. Are they ever going to add a live tile for the freakin weather application.....grrrrr this one really pisses me off actually
Okay well lets see in reference to the above..
Bing Maps needs some updates, its actually ****ty compared to the iphone version.
In terms of toggling WIFI, 3g blah blah blah, no one really does this **** on a regular bases other than our little niche of people to suck out every last bit of battery life we can. So go make the app.
Weather tile. I think one of the weather apps has a live tile (I think weather bug)
Most of this stuff will be addressed in Mango as well as a flood of new API's. We will see a sex storm of new apps and cool stuff.
That said here are my Pros and Cons...
Pros
Beautiful UI
Speed
Zune Pass/Zune
Outlook Exchange
the switch from horizontal to vertical viewing in the browser.
Cons.
Some bugs here and there with updating.
Slow updates
Getting used to the function of the back button (though its pretty nice now)
HTC's offerings ****ing suck.
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errr... flash browser?
i'm sticking with android for definate til they sort that one out!!!
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yeah pretty lame, no flash. that means sights like hulu are unusable to stream content. im guessing some of the ones i use regularly on my laptop like justin.tv are also probably no-go's. i decided to check the marketplace to see if the other browsers enable flash but they dont work either.
funny that im not seeing too many positives so far lol. one thing i do like is the overall design. i mean, it does LOOK pretty decent when im using it. but unfortunately there seems to be a lot of work windows still has to do to get this up to par. soooo....
pro - design
con - no flash
your not seeing as many positives, not because it doesnt have any but because its human nature to moan, vary rarely do we actively praise something.
WP7, why is it good? for me it has single handedly changed the way i view pdas/smartphones. Do i want to mod the hell out of it (ie WM / droid) no, not any more, i want it to work, and it does.
the down side? i would absolutely love for WP to have a WM sandbox, i dont care if it runs sluggish, but if WP could run WM programs it would be a beast.
Pros:
Live tile homescreen allows all the things I want as in apps and contacts etc
You can even pin map locations to get directions to - Phenomenal!
Volume change doesn't interrupt apps like 6.5 and sense did
You don't need to unlock the phone to change volume or switch to and from vibrate
Fast and slick no matter how many apps I go in and out of
XBox Live [games are great - NFS Undercover & Rise of Glory ftw]
web browser is simply the best
Bing searching is super slick especially using it to find and get to places
Even though they dumped activesync at least I can still sync via gmail
Cons: [although not deal breakers]
No wifi router
No RDP
No active sync & ability to connect as MSD
Can't run my TomTom & Garmin GPS apps which carried me through old WM
WP7 is so slick I simply won't be reverting back to 6.5 with sense and I've never had a penchant for iphone or android [or iGroan and Haemorrhoid] so I'm pleased as hell WP7 is so good. I'm also surprised as I wasn't impressed with the initial youtube "first looks" of WP7 as it looked boring as hell...
When showing my iGroan mates the bing search, type in pizza, goto a shop, get directions and the map comes up with my location and direction they simply get blown away... Most comments are "Whoa, that IS quick"...