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Hi, all, let me start off by saying sorry for taking the thread about how you folk demo the N1 off topic, it was rather silly, and was not representative of my real feelings and wants for the N1.
I also want to make it clear this thread is not for a flame session about how much better/worse the 3GS is than the N1 or the other way around.
Not sure if links are allowed here, but if you read some of my posts on my blog at kevwright.co.uk or .com, hopefully you will see I am trying to get rid of the 3GS in favour of something else, I have been through a lot of devices, and at the moment, that something else is the N1.
The other thread about demo'ing the N1 originally attracted me as I was/am feeling a litttle disapointed that the N1 does not seem to have any killer features over the 3GS esp in the UK where we do not get the Navigation Feature, which does look fantastic in the US.
I feel I should point out that I always mean 3GS when I say iPhone, and will publicly state the previous iPhone models were a bit rubbish, but the 3GS is in a different league and I do sometimes think some of the more outspoken comments are from people who have or used to have a 2G or 3G. I used to use the 3G, and it needed rebooting most days, as there was not enough memory, but 3GS really is stable here.
I also always mean a JB 3GS. It is simple, I could not use an unJB iPhone as my daily driver as it lacks a couple of essentials for me, namely I want a separate voice alert for SMS, EMAIL along the lines of "you have mail" and "you have email", which you need JB to be able to SSH those files into the device.
I don't really follow the line that it is unfair to compare an unrooted N1 to a JB iPhone as it is really easy to JB (an older 3GS, newer ones are a bit harder) and crucially you can completely restore to factory if you need to for warranty.
Anyway, onto the few things I currently feel unable to give up on my iPhone, if I could find all of these now or the near future I would be happy to eBay the 3GS and go 100% N1, now, I know I can not have all these things today but maybe you can help with some of them.
I hope AndyCr15 will pitch in, as he suggested a few ideas already over in the other thread but we could not discuss them there.
1. Parkers Guide App, this is so useful to me in my work, actually earns me money
I doubt I can do much about this to be fair other than hassle Parkers to do an app. This is a UK reference source only folks.
2. Hardware Ringer Mute switch, it beats any software solution.
I now know the ringer switch thing so this is good enough I think.
3. Sky Mobile App, live Sports, superb quality
Again, only Sky can sort this out I reckon, but it truly is a brilliant app, with a JB hack, you can even watch Sky Sports on your Plasma through the iPhone.
4. Audible Audiobook support
Coming soon I hope, this is a real dealbreaker for me.
5. Tweetie 2
So far I tried a few Twitter apps on N1 and Seesmic is closest, gonna try Andy's suggestion now.
6. Choice to power up from front screen button, really handy to check time quickly
Andy mentioned there was an app for this, anyone know what it is called?
7. The Power + Home button to take a screen shot anywhere in the OS
I use this a lot on 3GS, and I am gutted N1 just does not have it, it is an example of good design from Apple.
8. TomTom, (I have got Google Nav working now, so will see if that is any good)
Sadly the hack for Google Nav in the UK is lacking compared to the TomTom I am used to, but this is coming along for Android, if I keep the N1 long term, maybe I will try Co-Pilot, which I also have on 3GS.
9. 32GB of built in memory minimum. Really is handy having ALL your stuff always on hand.
OK, I know I can not have this just yet, but its OK, 16GB will be OK for now
Thanks for any help folks.
Kev
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5. Tweetie 2
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I've just moved to tweetcaster which is free and pretty good (although it really could do with caching).
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7. The Power + Home button to take a screen shot anywhere in the OS
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If you root you can use drocap2 (although images seem a little washed out) and there is picme too
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kevwright said:
6. Choice to power up from front screen button, really handy to check time quickly
Andy mentioned there was an app for this, anyone know what it is called?
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I don't think it's the app I came across the other day, but apparently Alpha 3 of myLock will do this, as argued here. Alternatively, Lockbot Pro also does it.
I'm not sure I have much to add over what I said in the other thread... hope you like Tweetcaster or Swift for Twitter usage
Leo said once again in TWiT this weekend that the Audible app wouldn't be long...
**EDIT** The trackball wake app I was looking at was this I think -
http://www.androlib.com/android.application.com-blau-android-keyguard-qFj.aspx
A really good tip that might help you achieve some of your goals (won't replace apps you want of course)...
You can change the browser to iPhone "sim" mode, so when you visit a site it thinks you are on an iPhone... to do this, open your browser, then in the URL type in about:debug and hit go. It is not going to go to any sites, but when you to settings you will have some extra options at the end of the settings list, one of those is the "UAString" and you can change that between Android, iPhone, and Desktop...
In stock mode, the browser auto switches to Desktop part of the time if you go to a full site that has special security protocal, ie wellsfargo.com, but not always. So it is really helpful to turn on this option and switch it up as need be.
Conversly, Dolphin browser has this enabled by default as an option, but I am not a big fan of Dolphin, I think it slows down the browser experience personally.
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I've just moved to tweetcaster which is free and pretty good (although it really could do with caching).
If you root you can use drocap2 (although images seem a little washed out) and there is picme too
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Thanks very much, will try both.
Kev
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A really good tip that might help you achieve some of your goals (won't replace apps you want of course)...
You can change the browser to iPhone "sim" mode, so when you visit a site it thinks you are on an iPhone... to do this, open your browser, then in the URL type in about:debug and hit go. It is not going to go to any sites, but when you to settings you will have some extra options at the end of the settings list, one of those is the "UAString" and you can change that between Android, iPhone, and Desktop...
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That is a great tip, thanks.
Kev
pjcforpres said:
A really good tip that might help you achieve some of your goals (won't replace apps you want of course)...
You can change the browser to iPhone "sim" mode, so when you visit a site it thinks you are on an iPhone... to do this, open your browser, then in the URL type in about:debug and hit go. It is not going to go to any sites, but when you to settings you will have some extra options at the end of the settings list, one of those is the "UAString" and you can change that between Android, iPhone, and Desktop...
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This doesn't seem to work. However Menu -> More -> Settings and scroll right to the bottom and select UA String from there works.
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That is a great tip, thanks.
Kev
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Your welcome! And here is a short list of my top used apps (No root needed):
TubeDroid: D/L any youtube video, can even do HD D/Ls (it was $2, and there are free options, but I like the overall features of this)
TouchDown: Exchange email client that rocks! IMHO, does a better job than even WM... it costs $20, but you can do a free 5 day trial as many times as you want, you just have to re-enter your settings every 5 days to start the period over.
CameraFX: The stock camera app in 2.1 is a huge improvement over 1.6, and I bought CameraFX when using the G1... none the less, it still has a lot of features the stock camera does not have. I find myself switching between the two depending on what I am doing... for a couple dollars, though, it is well worth the added photo effect features.
Nemo: Excellent music player app. Doesn't add any new codecs, but is a very nice UI.
Beautiful Widgets: Clock/Weather in 1 widget, plus toggles for WiFi, Silent, Vibrate, et al. I think it is $3, IIRC.
EarthRot: It is a live wallpaper, and while they may not be your cup of tea, it is extremely cool IMHO.
Google's Weather/News app/widget: I have the news widget loaded on my home screen, love it since it does a damn good job of capturing the top news and getting it to me (of course, I still watch my fair share, and visit my news sites)
There are many more, but those are the top ones I use that are pretty universal in application to any on the go working man. Oh, yeah, for sports scores and updates I use SportsTap (Free, and has all my US needs covered at least, not sure about euro needs though, although it does have soccer... er football... only draw back, IMO, is that it is very dependent on data, so if you are not on 3G or WiFi it can be a bit slow, on 3G or WiFi it is very quick!)
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This doesn't seem to work. However Menu -> More -> Settings and scroll right to the bottom and select UA String from there works.
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What about my statement didn't work for you? Your "However..." is the exact same thing I said, except instead of me doing a step by step walk through of how to get to browser settings, I assumed he knew how.
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What about my statement didn't work for you? Your "However..." is the exact same thing I said, except instead of me doing a step by step walk through of how to get to browser settings, I assumed he knew how.
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the bit where you say:
to do this, open your browser, then in the URL type in about:debug and hit go
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which isn't the same as hitting the menu button and going in to settings.
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the bit where you say:
which isn't the same as hitting the menu button and going in to settings.
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You have to type in about:debug in the URL line to turn the option on before it will be available in the stock browser. I also then went on to say after doing that, go to the settings and at the bottom of the list there will be the new options, including the UAString setting.
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You have to type in about:debug in the URL line to turn the option on before it will be available in the stock browser. I also then went on to say after doing that, go to the settings and at the bottom of the list there will be the new options, including the UAString setting.
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Odd. I had them at the bottom of my settings anyway. Maybe I did the about:debug thing some other time.. I, incorrectly, read that as about:debug would bring up settings similar to firefox extra settings.
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I'm actually doing the exact same switch..iPhone 32gb 3gs to a nexus one..mine is jailbroken and unlocked with tons of mods/themes/add ons that make it much much better than a factory 3gs..I love the nexus one right now,better battery,better screen,runs amazing and I've decided to sell my 3gs and buy a 64gb iPod touch..I could jb the touch and use all the same apps,and use wireless tethering on my n1 for any internet apps on the touch..plus I'm in the states and on T-Mobile so now I have 3g plus Google maps navigation which is great..competes with tomtom on my iPhone..
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Your welcome! And here is a short list of my top used apps (No root needed):
very quick!)
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Wow, thanks a lot, any American who knows the great game really is called Football is Ok with me
I think I need to try this 24 hr Market Place feature out
Kev
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I'm actually doing the exact same switch..iPhone 32gb 3gs to a nexus one..mine is jailbroken and unlocked with tons of mods/themes/add ons that make it much much better than a factory 3gs..I love the nexus one right now,better battery,better screen,runs amazing and I've decided to sell my 3gs and buy a 64gb iPod touch..I could jb the touch and use all the same apps,and use wireless tethering on my n1 for any internet apps on the touch..plus I'm in the states and on T-Mobile so now I have 3g plus Google maps navigation which is great..competes with tomtom on my iPhone..
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I have thought about an iPod Touch......but does it have GPS?
Kev
I see you've given up and listed it on eBay though (at more than everyone is slating the other guy for :lol: )
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I see you've given up and listed it on eBay though (at more than everyone is slating the other guy for :lol: )
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Nope, not given up at all, I tend to find that items on 7 day eBay sales get no attention at all for about 2-3 days, and by then I will know....
The reason for high price is that I actually don't want anyone hitting buy it now for a couple of days, and in fact you will see I have asked people NOT to hit buy it now without emailing me first
If I decide it goes, I will lower (or take less via email) and if I keep it I can simply overwrite this listing with the 3GS listing.
It is a common strategy for me, always worked well, and at 40p listing fee, a cheap way of getting some interest.
Kev
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Wow, thanks a lot, any American who knows the great game really is called Football is Ok with me
I think I need to try this 24 hr Market Place feature out
Kev
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I am a pretty big football fan, both the American version and the original version... I got my Fifa10 on my PS3, it replaced Fifa09, which replaced PES8, and so forth. I also find Ausie rules football interesting, and Rugby is a great game to play and watch... mostly watch, a little rough for a small guy like myself.
What am I doing wrong for voice dialing?
On the 3GS all I do is hold down Home button wait for beep and say call David, Home (or Mobile) it gets it right about 80%
On my N1, I hold down search button or launch Voice Dialer from home screen (are these the same thing?), and it NEVER dials anyone, but always give me choices, often the one I want is there but quite a bit its not.
Is it just poor, or is this thing anti British?
Kev
kevwright said:
What am I doing wrong for voice dialing?
On the 3GS all I do is hold down Home button wait for beep and say call David, Home (or Mobile) it gets it right about 80%
On my N1, I hold down search button or launch Voice Dialer from home screen (are these the same thing?), and it NEVER dials anyone, but always give me choices, often the one I want is there but quite a bit its not.
Is it just poor, or is this thing anti British?
Kev
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Anti-British at the moment... and anti-Asian name... The more you use it, the better it gets at it, though. It uses server side processing that, much like google's search engine learns, it is supposed to learn the more people use it and the more often you use it specifically...
You can also try changing this setting, might not do anything, but it might help:
Settings:Language and Keyboard: Select locale: English (United Kingdom)
As well, Settings:Text-to-speech(I know, not the same thing):Language:British English
While it might not make a difference, here is to hoping! And I am pretty sure the local setting does effect the google server processor.
I'm thinking of getting an i9000, but have a few questions. I'll be honest from the start: I'm not much into tech.
My main purposes for this phone will be: 1. reading e-books, 2. a secondary internet device at home, 3. making phone calls and sending text messages. What makes me even stranger is that I don't want a data plan or any 3G services. Most of what I plan to do will be WiFi at home (although the option is there to get a data plan should I change my mind or find some use for it). I know about the GPS problem, but I don't think I have use for a GPS anyway. Music is not important to me, so I doubt I'd have more than a handful of MP3s I'd ever want listen to; movies and TV shows are a must; games are of no interest to me; photos are more of a perk than a necessity. I love, Love, LOVE the Super AMOLED screen, which is why I'm leaning towards this one rather than the HTC Desire.
1. The 8GB version is 2,000TWD (approx. 60USD) cheaper, which is worth it to me. Given my intended usage and the extra cost, why should I realistically consider the 16GB version? I'll have to buy an SD card anyway, won't I?
2. I still don't understand that thread about the device not having or not being able to see the full 512MB of RAM. How does this impact the performance? How does Froyo address this issue? Am I likely to notice any impact given my intended usage?
3. What is Launcher Pro, and why do some people feel it is better than TouchWiz?
4. I'm in a geographic area that doesn't have access to paid apps (Taiwan). However, there is a workaround. Given my intended usage, what paid apps would you suggest?
5. I'll have to hook up wireless internet at home (I'm running Windows XP on my PC). Without going into too much detail, what equipment and services will I need to set this up for both my PC and phone to share?
I know this may be a lot to ask. Feel free to just address one question if you like. I appreciate any help you can give me.
Thanks.
the SD card is optional, but definitely wort it to have more storage, if you plan to have a large MP3 and Video collection on the road with you
then leave the internal 8 GB SD for application use.
if you ever install a GPS software, it will automatically eat up 2 GB in one shoty
the 8 GB is really 6 GB, because 2 GB is used for ROM software, the remaing is aprox 5 GB of usable space
if you load a GPS software that goes down to 3 GB of free space, and some games downloads a few Hundreds of a MB to play, so games require a full 1GB... anyways it adds up really quickly.
Thanks. GPS is not important for me, nor are MP3s. Any video I watch will most likely be uploaded, watched, and removed within hours. I'll be reading on it if I'm ever on the road.
Looks like I'll be leaning towards the money-saving 8GB one.
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Thanks. GPS is not important for me, nor are MP3s. Any video I watch will most likely be uploaded, watched, and removed within hours. I'll be reading on it if I'm ever on the road.
Looks like I'll be leaning towards the money-saving 8GB one.
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If I were you, I'd almost definitely go with the 8GB. I think the main reason is that, my plan would be to store my e-books on the external sd card, so if my battery or device died I could easily move them to my pc or next device.
Besides that, I'd suggest, as much as I love my device. Thinking about iPhone 4 or the Dell Streak (if you can get them wi-fi only) and/or a Kindle (not great for internet, #2 on your list, but you'd also save money). IPhone 4 will, probably, be a better reading experience, I can't be sure. Dell Streak has 25% more screen real estate, it also has gorilla glass. Downsides being it's not Super AMOLED, I don't think it's wirelss N, probably has less battery life and is currently stuck on 1.6, though I think 2.1 is imminent.
Not trying to convince you to get a different device, I wouldn't trade my phone for either of the two devices mentioned above.
To answer your other questions, I'd think about:
E-book software...I'm not sure if this is your first e-reader. Kindle, Aldiko might be the two most popular (doesn't mean best).
I'd get brut maps because it'll cache Google Maps pages to your SD card so you won't need data but can still use Google Navigation, My Tracks (I think? can't remember), and Google Maps if you ever have the need (you'll need to look at the areas from your wifi first to get the pages to cache).
I'd probably get a wi-fi analyzer, wi-fi analyzer works well for me.
For your case, thats the majority of what I'd get. I'd think about looking into getting Flash enabled instead of waiting for FroYo if my phone's second functionality would be web surfing.
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Thanks. GPS is not important for me, nor are MP3s. Any video I watch will most likely be uploaded, watched, and removed within hours. I'll be reading on it if I'm ever on the road.
Looks like I'll be leaning towards the money-saving 8GB one.
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Also, spend money on your saved 8GB into extra 2-3 batteries, it's more important for your purposes than 8GB. I can nearly guarantee.
ALL I CAN SAY IS DEFINITELY GET ONE...
I have been using mine constantly for the last few days or so since I sold my Iphone 3gs and before that came from a touch HD2, windows phone.
I can't believe I didn't go across to the android world sooner to be honest and I think I have at last made the right choice of phone, this galaxy S is simply a joy to use, I love it.
I have 7 completely customisable screens that you can scroll between I bought beautiful widgets (highly recommend this) just simply because I am hooked to these widget things. I have Beautiful Live weather wallpaper which displays some grass waving about at the bottom of the screen and clouds with sun, rain etc..moving perfectly acrosseach of the 7 screens, I know this is all old hat to some of the longer Android users, but for me I Love it...I have also bought the Pure calender widget which displays all your up and coming appointments etc...this again is completely skin-able, brilliant...seconds screen has some of my shortcuts to applicaitons, live UK TV guide, market, appbrain market, maps, zedge, calc, youtube and mail, my third screen has all these toggle widgets to quickly turn on airplane, wifi, bluetooth, sound controls, volume and battery, Screen number 4 has my Days dairy which I quite like, screen number 5 has my feeds and updates which automatically updates my facebook and twitter stuff, then onto screen 6 with the BBC news and History widget, number 7 is blank so I can stare at the weather...
I can't seem to stop type , the Swype keyboard is just so easy and quick to use, I actually enjoy typing on a small screen these days, not that the Galaxy has a small screen in fact its the perfect screen and if your into reading books like I am, I am using the free Laputa ereader, simply import all your epubs into it, Aldiko comes already installed which is equally as good, but without the funky page turn effects. the screen is so clear reading books is very nice.
Will continue on later, got to get back to work for a bit....
no no no... if you moved to Android sooner, you would have not enjoyed it.
I was also waiting for the Perfect Phone, before moving to Android
If you moved to Android when it was Android 1.5 you would have most likely ended up hating it.
It was Raw, not many apps, phone hardware were rather not at part with the HTC hardware, etc.
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ALL I CAN SAY IS DEFINITELY GET ONE...
I have been using mine constantly for the last few days or so since I sold my Iphone 3gs and before that came from a touch HD2, windows phone.
I can't believe I didn't go across to the android world sooner to be honest and I think I have at last made the right choice of phone, this galaxy S is simply a joy to use, I love it.
I have 7 completely customisable screens that you can scroll between I bought beautiful widgets (highly recommend this) just simply because I am hooked to these widget things. I have Beautiful Live weather wallpaper which displays some grass waving about at the bottom of the screen and clouds with sun, rain etc..moving perfectly acrosseach of the 7 screens, I know this is all old hat to some of the longer Android users, but for me I Love it...I have also bought the Pure calender widget which displays all your up and coming appointments etc...this again is completely skin-able, brilliant...seconds screen has some of my shortcuts to applicaitons, live UK TV guide, market, appbrain market, maps, zedge, calc, youtube and mail, my third screen has all these toggle widgets to quickly turn on airplane, wifi, bluetooth, sound controls, volume and battery, Screen number 4 has my Days dairy which I quite like, screen number 5 has my feeds and updates which automatically updates my facebook and twitter stuff, then onto screen 6 with the BBC news and History widget, number 7 is blank so I can stare at the weather...
I can't seem to stop type , the Swype keyboard is just so easy and quick to use, I actually enjoy typing on a small screen these days, not that the Galaxy has a small screen in fact its the perfect screen and if your into reading books like I am, I am using the free Laputa ereader, simply import all your epubs into it, Aldiko comes already installed which is equally as good, but without the funky page turn effects. the screen is so clear reading books is very nice.
Will continue on later, got to get back to work for a bit....
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Hi there,
my dad sold his iPhone 3GS for a Samsung Galaxy S i9000. Coming from an iPhone, I first had to show him the amazing richness of possibilities you have on Android compared to an iPhone and after he overcame his old knowledge of "one button, one app", he was quite pleased with some of Androids merits. However, all in all, he's missing some important features he used to have on his iPhone and he has some problems:
A) Most important of all, pretty much a deal breaker if he can't get it fixed soon: SIP. We tried several different clients, and for example we even tried the latest (non-market) version of csipsimple and we found bug reports for the Galaxy S and adjusted the mic/speaker volumes accordingly but it's still really bad: For local calls the quality is reasonable. It's a bit stuttery at times but people can talk. It's much worse than on his iPhone though. But what's really annoying him is the fact that calls to foreign countries are a no-go. The added quality drop to long distance calls make it very hard for the other party to hear him (All over wifi btw). Please, does anyone know a sure-fix, exact-settings-listing for some SIP app for Android?
B) Also a very important thing to him is a calendar. But both the Samsung calendar as well as the original Android one don't have a good week-view. The original one doesn't have one, the Samsung one doesn't show titles on tasks. I find it ludicrous, it's just boxes without titles... Ideally, he wishes to have a week view similar to what I have on my N900:
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There's more but especially the SIP is really bugging him. He absolutely needs it to work reliably or he'll need to sell the device.
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B) Also a very important thing to him is a calendar. But both the Samsung calendar as well as the original Android one don't have a good week-view.
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Agreed. Try Calendar Pad from the market in week view
What exactly is SIP? According to wiki, it's just a voice over internet protocol. Can you not use skype?
my wifi signal on 2.1 and 2.2 are the same. cellphones are not the same as laptop that has higher power to transmit data far away and and large space for antennas for receiving signal. if you look at wifi routers they got huge antennas. i don't think you can fit that in a phone.
i read a few months ago that iphone has problems on signal bcause of bad design : )
if you want software you've got a lot of choices in the market.
Try Sipdroid.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/sipdroid-voip-video-calling/org.sipdroid.sipua
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=9283203
Um... Poor daddy? Sorry cheeky I know but sgs is for people who like to tinker and find cool mods even simple apps like the plethora of gre calendar apps he could use right now. Seasoned iphone users especially of the older generation often don't get, the nerdy thrill that we do with the customisations and work necessary to fully realise the potential of sgs and andriod in general
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A) Most important of all, pretty much a deal breaker if he can't get it fixed soon: SIP. We tried several different clients, and for example we even tried the latest (non-market) version of csipsimple and we found bug reports for the Galaxy S and adjusted the mic/speaker volumes accordingly but it's still really bad: For local calls the quality is reasonable. It's a bit stuttery at times but people can talk. It's much worse than on his iPhone though. But what's really annoying him is the fact that calls to foreign countries are a no-go. The added quality drop to long distance calls make it very hard for the other party to hear him (All over wifi btw). Please, does anyone know a sure-fix, exact-settings-listing for some SIP app for Android?
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I use Sipdroid and VYKE as SIP provider. No echo, no cutting and only 30 seconds to set up. Can use WiFi or 3G. I do not use any PBXes.
the latest custom ROMs are really showing Pro
and performances are very quick
I'll recomend installing the DOC's ROM for SGS and use SipDroid for the voice chat
there are tons of Calendar options in the market, just take your time to review which one you like best
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B) Also a very important thing to him is a calendar. But both the Samsung calendar as well as the original Android one don't have a good week-view. The original one doesn't have one, the Samsung one doesn't show titles on tasks. I find it ludicrous, it's just boxes without titles...
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Try Egg 'n stone CalWidget. You can customice as You like. Size the Widget 4x1, 4x2, 4x3, 4x4......, choose a calander to view (MyCalendar, Google Calender.....), how long time ahead, layout and colors as You like, transparancy, and it's free.
I guess if Your father is a former iPhone user, he does not know how a widget work, try to explain to him.
Allright thanks everyone for the suggestions!
Dad's pleased with CalendarPad. Nice overview and the widget does a good job as well.
We installed sipdroid today and for local calls it seems to work well. Will check soon if we have the same problems as with csipsimple regarding long distance calls.
By the way... What is it with the "want an iphone, get an iphone" attitude in this forum. I clearly mentioned that he likes some of Android's merits and I asked two specific questions which I think I can expect from any modern smartphone, not just the iphone (working SIP and flexible calendar), the second of which btw is a downside of the iPhone because of all the sandboxing going on on an iphone. Anyway, you seem to be pretty quick on the "it's an iphone-loser" button.
Anyway, I've got a third and fourth question:
C) Is it normal that the battery lasts about 1.5 days with no IM or SIP services running? Only a calendar and the shipped-with weather widget. Is there some hack to improve battery life beyond just turning all the features off?
D) He's having serious stability issues at times. It happens that the device freezes when plugging it into USB or at different random times. At those times, the button lights would stay on with the screen being black. Long-pressing the power button fixes it. At different times it's a bit jerky. For example you would unlock the screen (gesture code) but then the screen would remain black for a few seconds and maybe the lock screen would show up again. Is this normal on android in general or has it to do with what Samsung pushed into its distro? Btw his mobile is branded by Orange and ships with some additional crap. Could this cause the problem? What's the easiest way of getting a fresh and simple Samsung or pure Android distro on it? I see there are lots of "mods", but I think we don't need any sort of mod, just a plain and stable OS.
Thanks.
To improve battery life, try turning off "Wireless location" in settings. However the battery life, even with various optimizations, is nowhere as good as iPhone 4.
The delays and stuttering you are experiencing is probably due to file system lag. Samsung uses RFS which is their own version of file system based on FAT32. Unfortunately that causes the phone to lag from time to time, usually when opening new applications or performing multiple I/O tasks. This can be fixed by installing one of the many lag fixes available. I use "One click lag fix" which you can download from the Market, but you will need to root the phone to apply it. There are several other alternatives which you can find in the "Development" forum.
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Try Egg 'n stone CalWidget. You can customice as You like. Size the Widget 4x1, 4x2, 4x3, 4x4......, choose a calander to view (MyCalendar, Google Calender.....), how long time ahead, layout and colors as You like, transparancy, and it's free.
I guess if Your father is a former iPhone user, he does not know how a widget work, try to explain to him.
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What exactly is google calendar, cant find it in the market. It would be great to have a calendar sync with my google account like my contacts as I've missed a couple of appointments when switching to a new phone and having no backup on calendar...
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Allright thanks everyone for the suggestions!
By the way... What is it with the "want an iphone, get an iphone" attitude in this forum.
C) Is it normal that the battery lasts about 1.5 days with no IM or SIP services running? Only a calendar and the shipped-with weather widget. Is there some hack to improve battery life beyond just turning all the features off?
D) He's having serious stability issues at times.
Thanks.
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Hi, glad CalenderPad worked out for your dad.
At times, android lovers seem to suffer from the Calimero effect
Your battery life could be a bit better, but not much. 1,5 days is considered normal, most of us have the goal to get through a full working day (and tinkering evening...) with one charge.
The stability issues are 90% Samsungs fault, because they did a less than perfect job on the software. HTC does a better job out of the box software wise. Indeed, a lagfix will most probably cure the symptoms, i have good experience with the Voodoo Lagfix. Instructions are easy, and can be found at project-voodoo.org.
To get rid of the Orange branding, you could flash an unbranded stock Samsung Rom from samfirmware.com (Link, you need to create an account for the link to work). The first time i flashed a ROM, it was nerving. But as long as you know how to get into recovery mode (and checked that Recovery Mode is available!) you should be fine. Just remember to disable/revert any lagfixes before flashing another ROM or Kernel to be safe.
I currently have an Atrix but I've been having many problems with it. I just came from a captivate that I really enjoyed but had grown bored with.
What I want to know is if anyone has experience with both the Focus and Captivate. If you came from one to the other are you happy with the change? I think a lot of my problem with the captivate was that I was just bored with android. WP7 looks very nice and it would almost be a relief to not feel the need to customize /root /upgrade /flash a new ROM every other day.
Any Android to WP7 converts who regret the change?
I actually just got a cheap Samsung Focus. I still have my captivate and was in the same boat as you. I was just sick of looking for froyo etc. I found a deal on one and really really enjoy it. I love the games on it as they are more cohesive than Android. Also, it just works. There aren't as many apps etc but the freakin GPS works spot on and quickly. It takes a little adjustment coming from Android to WP7 but I am almost completely swapped over. I will be using my captivate more like an ipod touch for the foreseeable future. I don't like bing as much as google but that has been my biggest problem so far.
I did make that leap. I got tired of a couple specific issues with the Capitivate. The GPS was terrible and took forever to lock on. The Focus is almost instant. The email updates on the Capitivate was eratic and would most times not automatically update. The email on the Focus has been great compared to that.
tanneji hit it -- there are more apps on Android, but I'm not missing any (well, besides Angry Birds, for now). The rest of the OS for WP7 is much better for me than Android. I sold my old phone and am not looking back.
My 2 cents
Being a previous Captivate owner from Aug'10 through Dec'10, here is a short list of pros/cons after making the change to the Focus:
Pro's:
*Flash for camera, and camera has side button to press instead of touching screen.
Con's:
*Univeral Volume. On captivate you can specify Ringtone/Music/Notifications/Etc
*No High Quality mode when watch youTube via 3G network... so the quality is terrible... better make sure you have wifi hooked up.
*No personal ring tones
*SD card is permenantly attached to phone when installed. No removing and putting into laptop for quick click 'n dragging.
Both:
*Both phones have promised updates that will never arrive.
*Battery life was the same for each, just make sure you plug it in at work.
I personally liked both phones, but I'm thinking I would have been very pleased with the new 4G HTC Inspire. It comes loaded w/Froyo (Gingerbread promised, if it ever happens).
Hey ... this is pretty interesting... I just bought a Captivate. I will say I do really like the Focus but the "update" is slow in coming. The captivate is nice phone and Android pretty much reminds me of iPhone with the individual icons on the screen. The set up is a bit more flexible (volume controls) and I do like the WIFI Hotspot feature of Android. The battery is aweful (same as Focus) but at least I can swap them out (same battery for both phones). iphone didn't allow easy battery swapping.
I've only had my Captivate for a week. A good phone but not a great phone. Nothing terrible about it except battery usage.
LS1Jabroni said:
Being a previous Captivate owner from Aug'10 through Dec'10, here is a short list of pros/cons after making the change to the Focus:
Pro's:
*Flash for camera, and camera has side button to press instead of touching screen.
Con's:
*Univeral Volume. On captivate you can specify Ringtone/Music/Notifications/Etc
*No High Quality mode when watch youTube via 3G network... so the quality is terrible... better make sure you have wifi hooked up.
*No personal ring tones
*SD card is permenantly attached to phone when installed. No removing and putting into laptop for quick click 'n dragging.
Both:
*Both phones have promised updates that will never arrive.
*Battery life was the same for each, just make sure you plug it in at work.
I personally liked both phones, but I'm thinking I would have been very pleased with the new 4G HTC Inspire. It comes loaded w/Froyo (Gingerbread promised, if it ever happens).
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Lol official 2.2 did come out for captivate
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I have iPhone, Captivate, and Focus so I'm very objective.
As the operator said, Android is a disaster. Flashing new ROM in search of a better UI and feature has been annoying while iPhone just works perfectly for backup. The reason I went for Rooting and Updating Froyo and Cognition ROM and now back to Official UCKB7 Froyo ROM is because I just want Skype to work, able to use Titanium Backup to backup app data just like the iPhone.
WP7 still does not have backup feature to backup apps....... everything seems to be cloud base may be easy for normal people but it DOES NOT BACKUP MY APPS DATA nor APPS.... it's annoying when I want to upgrade the SD card to 32GB and figure I have to wipe everything away and re-download and reconfigure everything ... It's just makes me really really annoyed...
WP7's multitasking is weak so far... I'm still waiting for the WebOS task switching UI that Microsoft has promised to release soon. But I'm having buggy issues in WP7 like the screen being too sensitive sometimes, lacking VOIP and turn-by-turn GPS navigation app sucks.....
Damn I think I will go back to iPhone. **** Android's fragmentation!! The OS is not stable at all! Skype, Tango, and other apps always crash and slow. iPhone just works smoothly, same thing as WP7.
WP7 still has a lot to catch up.
I have both.
Captivate:
* Google's vast collection of cloud services, Google Maps, Google Navigation, Places, Translate, Google Voice and SkyMaps etc. All of them are severly lacking on WP7 side.
* Poor GPS
* Easily hackable to have wi-fi tethering and custom ROMs.
* No matter what I do, the phone is always sluggish on home screens.
* UI reminds me of old WM. Lack of innovations. The Android OS is basically a nature evolution of WM OS in many aspects.
* OS Updates are slow to come. Samsung is notorious for this.
* microSD card works
Focus:
* Very nice UI.
* Very fluid home screen
* Never used GPS (no useful Navigation apps) so can't say how much better it is (anything is better than Captivate's GPS).
* No easy tethering. No, I don't want dial-up modem type of tethering. I want wi-fi AP type of tethering or at least USB tethering without install or configure anything on the PC side.
* MS cloud services are very lacking.
* API is limited so useful apps are lacking.
* MS in charge of OS updates, not Samsung. Regardless of recent issues with update (which is still caused by Samsung), I'd expect phone Updates should be faster and better than Samsung ever can be.
* microSD doesn't work with majority of the card out there. So the storage capacity of the phone is lacking (8GB vs (16GB + microSD) on Captivate).
* WP7 is an OS heading the right direction.
Oh... -1 for Android. I just found out it doesn't play .WAV files ? (2.2) Off I go to find a fix. This is a total blunder on Googles part. I mean .WAV files are very common with voice mail to email messages. Sigh..... off I go...
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Oh... -1 for Android. I just found out it doesn't play .WAV files ? (2.2) Off I go to find a fix. This is a total blunder on Googles part. I mean .WAV files are very common with voice mail to email messages. Sigh..... off I go...
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It plays wav file just fine for me. It does not recognize it as music file hence won't show up in music library but if you use file explorer to open it, it will play without any problem.
How do you file explorer on an attachment in an email ?
I have a Captivate, Focus and an iPhone. I'd rank them Focus, Captivate, iPhone.
Focus
- More Stable
- Awesome UI
- Netflix
- Turns on in less than 7 minutes
- GPS Works
- Updates come from MS and not Samsung
- Xbox Live
Captivate
- Google Voice
- Multitask
- Been using Android for the last year, so it's what I'm used to
iPhone
- Visual Voicemail
- Pretty UI
So blah blah blah, what everyone else has already said. The Focus is awesome, but the Captivate has it's pros too.
LS1Jabroni said:
Being a previous Captivate owner from Aug'10 through Dec'10, here is a short list of pros/cons after making the change to the Focus:
Pro's:
*Flash for camera, and camera has side button to press instead of touching screen.
Con's:
*Univeral Volume. On captivate you can specify Ringtone/Music/Notifications/Etc
*No High Quality mode when watch youTube via 3G network... so the quality is terrible... better make sure you have wifi hooked up.
*No personal ring tones
*SD card is permenantly attached to phone when installed. No removing and putting into laptop for quick click 'n dragging.
Both:
*Both phones have promised updates that will never arrive.
*Battery life was the same for each, just make sure you plug it in at work.
I personally liked both phones, but I'm thinking I would have been very pleased with the new 4G HTC Inspire. It comes loaded w/Froyo (Gingerbread promised, if it ever happens).
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App Realtube allows high quality over 3g.
Landmine said:
iPhone
- Visual Voicemail
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From what I was told (I don't have iPhone), Android's Google Voice voicemail imlementation (ability to transcribe voice into text) is way better than Visual Voicemail on iPhone.
Google Voice mail is awesome. I love it more than iPhone visual voicemail. It is practically the same thing however it also emails you the message and a transcription. The transcription is not that great but it will be quite awesome when they are able to understand accents a little better haha.
I used to have an HTC magic & captivate (used them for 2 years) but currently have the Iphone and use the Focus as my main phone.
Android had some very exciting features. I used to love being able to download a music album, then unzip it on the phone and play it right there and then. Having a file explorer was also amazing. Fragmentation between user experience varying from device to device is what killed it for me for the android platform..as well as the whole update limited by the carier fiasco.
WP7 in it's early stage is a better OS imo than Android was. It's IOS smooth and fluid and in the time I've used it, i've yet to have stability issues with the OS. With my Android phones, restarting the device was common to recover from force closes and lock ups.
I like the fact MSFT is taking the Apple route in the sense of 1 update for all. And I do think they will support their phones for a while to come, the way Apple till this day pushes out updates even for older hardware..3G/GS(albiet the real old stuff is no longer supported). Zune is the only thing I think is lagging with WP7. Itunes has alot more polish than Zune..but since Wp7 & zune are still relatively young.. i think they will still get there. More udpates, more APIs, more fun!
Hi guys,
I thought i share my thoughts and experience with people who have not decided which phone to buy. Maybe my input will make the decision easier (or maybe it will confuse you even more hehe).
Also I am hoping people with Android experience maybe can assist me with some of my negative bullets. I'm very new to Android so i apologies for my mistakes in my so called review/comparison.
And lastly i dont want to start any fanboy android vs iOS. This is just my personal view of the two phones/OS'es. Its maybe a bit unfair since i been using iPhone for the last 3 years and Android for only a week but still some of the bullets are independent of that. Any how lets dig into it, First i take the negative side of SGII and next the positive sides.
(maybe my topic is a bit misleading but below some of the items are compared against iPhone but i wont write all the plus/negative for iPhone since the SGII list is already pretty big and i want to focus on SGII which i hope can replace my iPhone)
- When i exit USB mode (where i can access the SD card) i cant find a way to reconnect it without cable unplug->plug. Is there a way i missed?
- Browser doesnt word wrap the text/column so good on table tab. I had a side by side comparison with my iPhone4. On iphone the whole article including images are resized and the text is fully readable. On Galaxy S2 images are not resized and text is readable but just barely. So the whole screen real-state is not fully utilized with the lower resolution and bad browser formatting.I have tested Opera also but the whole word wrapping experience left a very bad taste in my mouth. It was the worst experience ever, the article jump up and down every 5 sec or so, i think the browser got confused for some reason and couldnt decide how to format the page (this was when double tapping).
- Default browser crashes (go to qj.net where i usually visit to read about games).
- Text selection is a pain sometimes. First problem is that in every app it behaves differently. Second problem is that the process to select a text isnt so smooth.
- Confused about task and background proceses that start magically! When using taskmanager i can see mostly 2-3 tasks there and this makes sense. Now using other task killers suddenly they show 10-15 tasks. I understand these are background task but its beyond me why some of them suddenly are there. Like Kies, this should never be started unless i am using Kies. I can see now why my battery goes dows so fast (well compared to iPhone again). Why is there so many tasks started and why cant i control them from vanila Android. This should be a must. I dont want to root my phone to do the basic settings.
- Pretty much all application is downloaded can only be installed on phone memory. Why doesnt Google enforce developers to adapt to new versions of Android is beyond me.
- I havent found a way to backup everything on the phone (including applications and their save data) to my pc/mac. Without this i dont like to experiment rooting and other shizzles.
- Apps are not as smooth and functional on GS2 compared to iPhone4. Ex: Tunein Radio, i cant skip to next song. Ex2: ign app (iphone) allow for daily videos while the Android version is very poorly done and dont have any videos. Feels like Everything works just a little better on iPhone compared to Android phones.This is something most people cant understand if they havent had iPhone for a long time i think.
- Slow battery charging. I usually start charing at around 20% battery left. In one hour GS2 reaches around 40-50% while iPhone goes to 80%
- Headset lacks volume + next/back track when playing music.
- Creating folder through Kies Air not possible. for ex in media make a folder called movies.
- Drag&Drop in Kies air missing.
- When uploading a file through Kies Air there should be a progress bar, now it just looks busy and you dont know if its uploading or it hangs.
Ok now to some good sides on the Galaxy S2:
+ Brilliant screen (even if i think resolution could be better)
+ Flexibility and open market for every sort of application. Much like windows here you can add more functionality and make the phone very personal.
+ Excellent codec support. It plays pretty much everything i through at it. Well done Samsung.
+ Very good camera (even better then iPhone i admit)
+ Very good video recording (also better then iPhone)
+ Very light
+ Feels pretty good in your hand (even though i’m afraid one day the backvocer will break, i had a Nokia N95 and one day the smal plastic edges broke when i was opening the cover. Same thing will happen ti GS2 i’m sure)
+ Expandibale uSD.
+ Very cool fearure called Kies Air where i can access most studd through browser. (this can also be added to minus since it doenst work perfectly everytime i tested but the potential is there)
+ Nice features like pinch effect for desktop + many nice widgets.
+ I think you can make proper call recording on SGII (CallRecorder) but havent confirmed myself yet.
Lastly i like to say SGII is a wonderful phone and i really really want to use it as my primary phone. The one thing i hope Samsung fixes that will make me more loyal to Android is the default browser. The text wrapping must be improved and the browser more stable. I like the smoothness of the default browser and this is the most used part of the phone and so far my iPhone is better but i hope 2.3.4 update maybe can improve this.
Any input, tips, tricks are welcome. I really appreciate your help.
Hopefully this will help you, at least in some areas (i numbered them in the order that you have used):
1) using developer mode at least (i prefer it as its faster and more compatible than samsung's stuff) you can mount/umount at will the card on the pc via the phone without unplugging
2) You may want to try Opera Mobile, it seems to do a very good job at this. I'd like to see this in the stock browser too, but hey, this is Android, you have the choice to change the browser if you like ;-)
3) Well, same thing I guess. 2.3.4 may improve stability but the rest, I don't know, I wouldn't bet on it. I like Firefox quite a bit as well, but text wrapping is odd on it.
4) Android issue =/
5) I wouldn't use any task killer. Check the active apps and uninstall any app that doesn't behave (keep only the ones you REALLY need that still do stuff in the background, like email etc, but not too many). Seems to work a zillion time better for battery life. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a decent way to enforce such a policy.
Regular background tasks are not necessarily ever active. It just means they're frozen in the background and do nothing. As long as they do nothing it's fine, it's just faster to start them again (instant, in fact). The issue is really when they're activating every XX minutes while in the background.
6)Doesn't matter, the recent samsung phones such as the SGS2 have a HUGE internal memory compared to other phones, you'll never have space issues for that imo.
7)Install a kernel with CWM and then, boot in recovery and run a nandroid backup. It will create the backups on your sdcard. Copy them to your PC. Also, copy /efs using tools or manually..
You can restore using a CWM kernel later on and nandroid restore.
You can also use stuff like TitaniumBackup, but it's not nearly as thorough as nandroid backup (which is doing basically disk images, while Titanium and other such apps just copy app/settings)
8)Trollish subject. Some apps are superior on Android, some are superior on iOS. Heh SGS2's browser speed eats my IP4 for breakfast for example. If the same Android app doesnt have the feature of the iOS app, complain to the dev or find another app.
9) it's true it's like that, nothing you can do about it (technically, something could be done but that's probably not wise at all)
10) Use another music player, such as PowerAmp if you like. There's (many, many) other possibilities as well. It also let you boost the volume higher than the stock max volume (although I find stock to be loud enough)
11) Don't use KIES air to do that then ;-)
12) Likewise. There are apps like KIES air, you might want to try them btw. Make a little search, I dont have the name in mind, but they do exist, others will probably point them out
13) I do get a progress bar that moves, maybe a browser issue. Anyway, see point 12)
Cheers for the answers and help. I write the comments inline below.
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Hopefully this will help you, at least in some areas (i numbered them in the order that you have used):
1) using developer mode at least (i prefer it as its faster and more compatible than samsung's stuff) you can mount/umount at will the card on the pc via the phone without unplugging
A: i did test this mode but it asked me to unplug the cable also, same thing for MTP. Dont you get that?
2) You may want to try Opera Mobile, it seems to do a very good job at this. I'd like to see this in the stock browser too, but hey, this is Android, you have the choice to change the browser if you like ;-)
A: As mentioned i already tested this. Opera does some things better and some things worse. For instance visiting one of my favorite sites like Engadget.com the whole page jump up and down when i zoom in a little. To be honest the stock + Opera feel very bad compared to iPhones browser. I hope Opera or Samsung improve on this area. This is the most used feature for me.
3) Well, same thing I guess. 2.3.4 may improve stability but the rest, I don't know, I wouldn't bet on it. I like Firefox quite a bit as well, but text wrapping is odd on it.
A: Lets hope so
4) Android issue =/
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5) I wouldn't use any task killer. Check the active apps and uninstall any app that doesn't behave (keep only the ones you REALLY need that still do stuff in the background, like email etc, but not too many). Seems to work a zillion time better for battery life. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a decent way to enforce such a policy.
Regular background tasks are not necessarily ever active. It just means they're frozen in the background and do nothing. As long as they do nothing it's fine, it's just faster to start them again (instant, in fact). The issue is really when they're activating every XX minutes while in the background.
A: Yes true, i think Android just shows to much info for regular user. I have to see past the background tasks perhaps. Also some appz you can not remove like the hubs and such. Sure i can root and hack but i'm not so interested to do so just yet. Maybe when i'm a bit more user and understand Android better
6)Doesn't matter, the recent samsung phones such as the SGS2 have a HUGE internal memory compared to other phones, you'll never have space issues for that imo.
A: Actually i got over 12Gig of Appz on my iPhone so 16Gig (or actually 12Gig which is free) isnt all to much when you have navigator (3,5Gig) and games and blogs and such. But sure its enought for a time to come. The bottom line is Google must be tougher with the market otherwise the fragmentation will just grow.
7)Install a kernel with CWM and then, boot in recovery and run a nandroid backup. It will create the backups on your sdcard. Copy them to your PC. Also, copy /efs using tools or manually..
You can restore using a CWM kernel later on and nandroid restore.
You can also use stuff like TitaniumBackup, but it's not nearly as thorough as nandroid backup (which is doing basically disk images, while Titanium and other such apps just copy app/settings)
A: Thanks for the tips, i will write it down. As said i dont dare yet to mess with hacking but soon i was actually considering using the TitaniumB , hear its easy to use.
8)Trollish subject. Some apps are superior on Android, some are superior on iOS. Heh SGS2's browser speed eats my IP4 for breakfast for example. If the same Android app doesnt have the feature of the iOS app, complain to the dev or find another app.
A: I'm noob on what is there on the market so i'm sure there are many awesome apps on Android but when comparing the same app on Android vs iOS the Android was inferior. That was what i was comparing.
Another thing i dont really experience is the speed. To be honest i dont see such a huge speed difference when using my Wlan at home. But maybe you are right
9) it's true it's like that, nothing you can do about it (technically, something could be done but that's probably not wise at all)
A: I guess your right. On the other hand it could be possible a fw update could adjust some values for the current input, this could be a software limitation also i think. Lets hope
10) Use another music player, such as PowerAmp if you like. There's (many, many) other possibilities as well. It also let you boost the volume higher than the stock max volume (although I find stock to be loud enough)
A:Thanks for the tips will test this. Actually this is same thing as the copy/paste issue. I expect the behaviour to be the same no matter application (coming from iOS) but here it seems its application to application. This offer more freedom to developers for sure but it will also generate crapy software and result in a bad user experience. It would be so much better if there were a set of rules that all developers should follow on certain areas (this one is one such area).
11) Don't use KIES air to do that then ;-)
A: hehe true but this is the official way so i thought it should have been well tested and all
12) Likewise. There are apps like KIES air, you might want to try them btw.
Make a little search, I dont have the name in mind, but they do exist, others will probably point them out
A: Will do.
13) I do get a progress bar that moves, maybe a browser issue. Anyway, see point 12)
A: Strange, have to test again on IE which i hate, i use Firefox only. Also tested Safari on my mac.
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Thanks again for your input mate. Back to play more with my GSII
Applications can also be installed on the external sd card.
Applications and I also believe their user data are backed up on google server. So if you factory reset the phone and sync with google, it will download all previous apps.
About the slow charging - are you on old firmware version or do you charge over USB?
Creating a folder through kies air is not possible, that is correct. To be honest I am happy that there is even an app which allows to copy media etc. over wifi, you know there are phones which don't have that, for example the iPhone.
All apps I am using are working fine. If an app is not stable it's developer's fault, not the phone.
Ios is from 2007.. android 09.. 1-2 years between them. just think how far android have gone the last year.. give it 2 years and then compare it to iphone 4 in it current state.. well yes i know android is older.. but the initial realse was around 08-09 and IOS june - 07.
and yes.. so far iphone fits those who just want it to work better.. that means ppl not that used to computers etc.
and currently i dont own an iphone but i got a first generation ipod touch.. and yes even that stoneage IOS thing does alot of things better then my S2..
bah but this iphone vs android is getting old its a subject that can go on forever and ever..
well ill stick with my laggy android.. well i've been told by my iphony friends that its laggy.. i just dont see it
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Any input, tips, tricks are welcome. I really appreciate your help.
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Nice overview.
IMO S2 is the best phone on the market now. But due to appl's hype, n matter what hardware specs they release, the iphone will always be superior to ANY phone. They could release an iphone with 1st gen hardware, and it will still make more sales than sgs2.
But, slowly more and more ppl are moving towards androi, and apple are losing sales. they even copied bb and android in ios 5..
Also coming from an iPhone 4 to the GS2 I can safely say that I don't miss the iPhone at all which I thought I would.
Having owned a Nexus S in the past and feeling a bit bewildered as there was a lot of stuff within the OS which felt unpolished and unfinished and now 2.3.3 is like night and day for that and it feels much more like a complete OS to me.
@OP give it time there will be a lot of things you can do with your new phone which would require rooting on your iPhone 4
The world of apps and widgets and customization is at your finger tips so jump right in and enjoy
My phone is running ADW Launcher EX with 90% icon dock size, 5x5 grid for homescreen, transparent drawer and miui weather
The only thing you might miss is the app store and iTunes integration (if you use it), other than that the Galaxy S II has it beaten quite comfortably.
@zxz0O0:
OOH that is cool , i think some option about it but didnt think it was what i thought it was nice to have it confirmed. Then this is pretty much what Apple is adding into iOS now with the cloud thing. Pretty cool Android has it already. By the way why do people use program like TitaniumBackup when there is google sync ? is there any limitation to the cloud backup? will all games data, programs data, settings be backed up or just Android OS stuff?
About FW i use the latest i think KE7 i think its called but i read there is a new one coming out next week so hoping for better battery life.
And your last point is something we can debate about for a long time but my view is that if you dont have strict rules developers do what ever they want and can let their app go without update. On the other hand if Google enforce some guideline like having option to install to SD card developers must go by that or their application is removed from market. In the end users will benefit and the platform will grow. But this is my view alone.
@olyloh6696:
I dont think its just hype really. I mean we are comparing a year old phone to SGII here and they are pretty much head to head in most scenarios i tested. But i see your point and i do agree that Android has a charm about it. I love the moving background, i love the whole flexibility to do what you want with the interface. Specially SGII's support for codecs so i dont have to spend 2 day re-encoding all my movies etc. So there are definatley benefits with Android but iOS has the benefit to be easy and working perfectly with the functions it offers from the get go. I think its a matter of preference and more advanced users will move to Android (a bit like me).
@daleski75:
Yupp i think i just need to play with it more and get used to the eco system
I think i will harass Opera developers to fix the formatting thing on the webpages now
Thanks for your input guys, gonna go out and take a walk now, later.
There are also many other good browsers, xscope, miren and dolphin hd to name a few, they all have their own way to format the page and all are pretty good many have different options too for formatting and text wrapping (I believe the default samsung browser also has some options)
also I believe google sync doesnt save all app data (eg angry birds progress is not saved)
That is correct...Google Sync doesn't backup app data (like your Angry Birds scores). This is where Titanium Backup (commonly abbreviated to as TiBu) comes in. It "sort of" does cloud backup (via Dropbox), but its strength really shows when you start installing/changing/updating custom ROMs. Typically, it's used to backup your apps and their data to a folder on your SD card. I can also do some pretty advanced stuff that you probably wouldn't use much (if at all). In my view, the strength is it's ability to deal with batch jobs. For example, before installing a new ROM, I backup all user installed applications (non-protected ones, anyway) with only a couple clicks. Restoring is just as easy, provided you have the paid version (it allows for hands-off batch restore of your apps). Another cool feature it has is "freezing" apps. Say you root your phone and may want to clean some carrier crapware off of it, but aren't *totally* sure. You can freeze those apps...they stay installed and can be defrosted at any time, but they won't be available for use until you do.
Also, I agree with you that a lot of iOS apps are much better than their Android counterparts. I believe this is the case for one main reason: there are tons of people using Android and tons of people on iPhones...you can essentially count on one hand the number of iOS phones Apple has to support, and they are all sold by Apple. Now, look at the number of Android phones and devices and their individual specifications...that makes developing apps for Android pretty complicated. Devs have to take into account different CPUs, memory limitations, and the biggie--SCREEN DIFFERENCES! However, I like being able to run an app developed for a phone on my Honeycomb tablet. Yeah, it may be ugly (not necessarily), but it almost always works! I have a network tool I use that only shows up on about 1/6th the screen of my tab, but I don't care...it still does the job.
Don't forget another important aspect of the Android vs. Apple thing...Apple has control of their devices and their operating systems, and the cell phone carriers don't have control over when Apple releases an update. On the Android side, you have some manufacturers that are prompt with getting an update ready, and those who abandon their devices after they leave the store shelf. Not only that, but those who do release updates, and most do, have to deal with the likes of AT&T and Verizon and everyone else here in the US. Each company wants a ROM customized only for them, and sometimes the manufacturers actually have to pay the cell companies to push out updates. This is what causes the splintering of Android, but openness is what gives it its strengths.
As a general rule, I find that the more "techy" people like the Android OS, since you can customize it and tweak it like crazy. Those who aren't quite as savvy will probably like iOS more (there's less to screw up and they all look the same). Please don't flame me for saying that...it's just a general observation that has many exceptions.
Well that's my two cents. Maybe it will be helpful in some way? <*schrugs*>
Brad
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There is no practical comparison possible between the mentioned phones.
Appreciate the explanation brad, TB is a nice tool indeed
Just one point, In regard to customization i can pretty do anything also when i jailbreak the iphone which is even simpler then rooting Android and what all techies do anyway with their Android phones
But i agree Android has its charm with the more open eco system.
The 2 area i wish to have before it gets perfect is the browsing and more resolution for the big ass screen (4.3)