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Diamond and Flashlite 3

okay, so flashlite 3 has been leaked, great! but why no instructions or reports in how to get it to work with htc diamond? all u hear reports from are kaiser usersl
I have the latest UK stock ROM and all i want to know is whether I can get flash working with the existing pre installed browser. I do not want an unclean installation method, nor do I wish to 'upgrade' my opera to some other build that is not customised for the diamond and that would lose key features such as the scroll wheel.
would appreciate your advice and experiences.

Some discussion here which might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424021

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
try this.
make sure you have the latest opera... (im using the one in Dutty's 1.9 FULL) works on my diamond

jameslovell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
try this.
make sure you have the latest opera... (im using the one in Dutty's 1.9 FULL) works on my diamond
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Thats the thing. I dont want to use a cooked ROM. I want to keep my stock ROM, furthermore I dont want to force any version of Opera that isnt officially customised for Diamond. eg, I dont want to lose the likes of scroll wheel support etc

jameslovell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
try this.
make sure you have the latest opera... (im using the one in Dutty's 1.9 FULL) works on my diamond
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not one person on that thread has appeared to have tested this with the HTC Diamond.
This is the problem.

It won't run on stock. It needs the newest OS core an Opera 1938

koven said:
It won't run on stock. It needs the newest OS core an Opera 1938
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so basicly anyone who sticks to the stock HTC Diamond ROM has no way of using flash lite 3 with Opera?
Perfect.
Two steps forward, one step back.

Okay, considering it is the current leading WIndows Mobile device - can we please have some CLEAR CUT instructions as to how we can get Flash Lite 3 working on the HTC Touch Diamond? And by working I mean working on an OFFICIAL HTC stock ROM or network carrier ROM, I do not consider flashing to a cooked ROM and invalidating my warrenty a solution.
If Opera needs to be uprgraded, then please tell me how and what (diamond specific) features we lose.
Thanks.

I'm running Opera 1938 and I can still scroll with my finger to zoom, etc... Just try it, what have you got to lose?

darthbane2k said:
I have the latest UK stock ROM and all i want to know is whether I can get flash working with the existing pre installed browser. I do not want an unclean installation method, nor do I wish to 'upgrade' my opera to some other build that is not customised for the diamond and that would lose key features such as the scroll wheel.
would appreciate your advice and experiences.
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As you probably or rather hopefully know, there is no official non beta Flash Lite 3.x for Windows Mobile x.x and Opera Mobile x.x. Yet. Let alone one customised for the Diamond. At least, AFAIK. So, as you clearly are a consumer, nothing wrong with that, and taking your past and present Diamond related threads and posts into consideration, my sincere advice is you ignore all versions floating around and keep on enjoying or loathing your device as it is
Why don't you wait until HTC or your network carrier publish one suited for your stock ROM, again nothing wrong with that, including step by step written and video instructions on how to install? Then wait some more for the first user reviews to roll in, before deciding to jump in head first
Or, you can put some effort in, search for how to upgrade Opera and scrolling, experiment with what is available and help others out by sharing another kind of experience, like a lot of XDA members do.
Come to think of it.. No, please don't! I don't think you've got what it takes, still nothing wrong with that. You would probably only end up whining some more about how the Diamond sucks donkey balls, how HTC has done you wrong by tricking you into buying this incomplete, non functional device, and about the demise of Windows Mobile in general. Now, that boring routine could bug me a little
Seriously, no hard feelings, I really hope you enjoy your Diamond with all it's pros and cons and take care!

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darthbane2k if you have old flashlite or maybe flash installed it wont probably work even when you install new opera i had to hard reset it because i was unable to remove all parts left of flashlite 2.1 and flash 7

It worked reasonably in my Diamond , Youtube and other player based on
Flash, other swf, only render static.
Sorry for the English.
Rom version: 1.93.831.1.WWE - DiamondtProject Team
Radio version: 1.00.25.07

it works
Just Flashed My MDA Compact IV to Dutty V1.9.
It has Opera 9.5 1938 built in.
Then i installed the Flash Lite 3.1 cab.
Rebooted.
And lo and behold, i could view Youtube from within Opera!

darthbane2k said:
Okay, considering it is the current leading WIndows Mobile device - can we please have some CLEAR CUT instructions as to how we can get Flash Lite 3 working on the HTC Touch Diamond? And by working I mean working on an OFFICIAL HTC stock ROM or network carrier ROM, I do not consider flashing to a cooked ROM and invalidating my warrenty a solution.
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Flash lite 3.1 working fine for me
opera 9.5 build 1938, install both opera and flash lite to device memory
using TLR3 ROM
Instructions for upgrading opera can be found in the development and hacking section in the opera 9.5 thread.
Instructions for installing flash lite 3.1 can be found in the development and hacking section, flash lite 3.1 thread
Instructions for flashing your ROM can be found in the sticky in the diamond ROM section.
If you dont want to flash your rom and upgrade opera then there is little chance of you using flash lite 3 until adobe release an official version. But if you dont want to flash your rom and upgrade spftware then these forums may be the wrong place for your questions.
maybe here will be a better place for you to find support for official adobe lite development
http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/

It's work for me too.
youtube work almost very well, but dailymotion (specially for french) don't work. Maybe in another version of flash lite, the 3.5 are in development.
Thanks a lot for the developper

zeldomar said:
It's work for me too.
youtube work almost very well, but dailymotion (specially for french) don't work. Maybe in another version of flash lite, the 3.5 are in development.
Thanks a lot for the developper
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How to test if flash is working? I went to youtube and it always gives me m.youtube.com (for mobile) and when I clicked on the video, the streaming thing (windows media?) pops up and the video never shows up from within opera...
I went to adobe test page and the flash test video is blank... does it mean that it doesn't work? Any other site that I can test if flash is working?
FYI, I have the latest Opera build installed on SwiftBl cooked ROM. And I have modified the Opera.ini file so that I can use gmail on opera.
Edit: Got it to work now. I can see youtube from within Opera. It's the opera.ini file that I have modified that made youtube not load the videos from within the opera (but pop up windows media instead). I have fixed it now.

Does Flash Lite work on HTC HD ?

Hi all,
Are there some people there who made Flash work on their HD ?
Which one shall we use ? Flash Lite 3.1 ? Which cab for that ?
Thank you for charing your experience !
Regards.

zlebandit said:
Hi all,
Are there some people there who made Flash work on their HD ?
Which one shall we use ? Flash Lite 3.1 ? Which cab for that ?
Thank you for charing your experience !
Regards.
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it will work if there is a flash... or a light/lite on touch hd

Hi, I too have the same question.
I am yet to succeed in going to a web page containing some sort of flash animation and actually see it.
All I'm seeing is a message to say I need a flash player installed. I've installed the current downloadable full version from Adobe and a variety of cabs for Flash Lite, but non of them seem to work with Opera on the HD.
Any help would be much appreciated chaps.
cheers, Jimmy

I have it working, i updated my opera to 9.5 build 2745 (by simply copying new two files to windows folder, and then installed flashlite 3.1. All of these files are available somewhere in this forum.

anyone know where to get these files?

jimmy-fix-it said:
Hi, I too have the same question.
I am yet to succeed in going to a web page containing some sort of flash animation and actually see it.
All I'm seeing is a message to say I need a flash player installed. I've installed the current downloadable full version from Adobe and a variety of cabs for Flash Lite, but non of them seem to work with Opera on the HD.
Any help would be much appreciated chaps.
cheers, Jimmy
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Jimmy, what happens when you try to load the YouTube app?
Petrov.

Most modern websites that feature Flash content are made for Flash 8 or Flash 9, which is the desktop variant. Flash Lite is a simple package of the same software and thus Flash 9 sites will NOT run natively on your mobile phone, so your only option for that is Skyfire. This will not change anytime soon.
YouTube is optimized for Flash Lite and thus you can see the lovely FLV players on your mobile phone after installing 3.0 or higher.
3.0 copies some of the features of desktop Flash 7/8, including FLV playback, but this does NOT mean you can view entire Flash 7/8 sites, let alone Flash 9.

nin2thevoid said:
Most modern websites that feature Flash content are made for Flash 8 or Flash 9, which is the desktop variant. Flash Lite is a simple package of the same software and thus Flash 9 sites will NOT run natively on your mobile phone, so your only option for that is Skyfire. This will not change anytime soon.
YouTube is optimized for Flash Lite and thus you can see the lovely FLV players on your mobile phone after installing 3.0 or higher.
3.0 copies some of the features of desktop Flash 7/8, including FLV playback, but this does NOT mean you can view entire Flash 7/8 sites, let alone Flash 9.
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Sorry for being dense. Will certain flash sites, such as youtube, work through Opera on the HD once the FlashLite 3.1 is installed?
If so, any chance you could point me to where one can download FlashLite 3.1 (I've looked but I must be missing something)?
Many thanks,
Petrov.

Vinski- said:
I have it working, i updated my opera to 9.5 build 2745 (by simply copying new two files to windows folder, and then installed flashlite 3.1. All of these files are available somewhere in this forum.
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I just did the same you are reporting...but it is not working....
what cab did you use to install flashlite 3.1?
there are many....

Vinski- said:
I have it working, i updated my opera to 9.5 build 2745 (by simply copying new two files to windows folder, and then installed flashlite 3.1. All of these files are available somewhere in this forum.
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Do we have a changelog between to shipped version of 9.5b2682 and your 9.5b2785?

mrpetrov said:
Jimmy, what happens when you try to load the YouTube app?
Petrov.
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Hi Petrov,
youtube works fine from what i can tell,as in it plays videos.
One example of a website where flash doesnt work is the htc.con page where the ring tones are.The place next to the download button has the words "Install Flash".
Looking at the other posts on this thread i'm not sure if it should work at all, Jimmy

How to uninstall Opera 9.5 Build 2745

Hi Community,
I installed Opera 9.5 Build 2745 Cab from a Touch HD on my Xperia.
Because there is a bug with the keyboard, you can only type one letter in a textbox and after that it will deselect that box, I want to get rid of it.
My problem is I can't remove this version via System -> Remove programs.
It's just not listet there. I already tried do install/uninstall an official beta of Opera.
This only helped me as far as an Opera was listet but it only removed the official beta.
Anyone a suggestions what I could do?
thanks in advance
Greetings from Germany

it seems that the only solution is a hard reset
now i will install a backup application ;-)

meska said:
it seems that the only solution is a hard reset
now i will install a backup application ;-)
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why dont you run the stock Opera from the Windows folder? that in theory will install the default X1 version and replace the one from Touch HD.

mkouk said:
why dont you run the stock Opera from the Windows folder? that in theory will install the default X1 version and replace the one from Touch HD.
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How could I do this Please?

caldo said:
How could I do this Please?
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Just go to your windows directory in the root of your phone memory there you will find a .cab of the stock opera

Thank you for your reply, byt there is no an Opera cab there...

- Some people here have had the same problem. I think they all did a hard-reset (everything will be gone afterwards).
-> If you do a hard-reset, you can update your ROM while your at it. The new official ROMs have a better Opera version built in (9.5 build 2532, but way better than the original one, scrolling works with the optical joystick now, faster, better landscape support etc...)

My problem is that in my custom rom (Touch-It Experience v.3.01) I have Opera 9.5 Build 2532, but I cannot change with AEKmap to the GREEK layout. Is not working. I can write only English...
Perhaps, should I take the: Opera.exe and OperaL.exe from the cab of Build 2520 (which is working with AEKmap - Greek well, but there is no scrolling which I DO want!) and overite the ones of the 2532?
Or vice versa?
Do you think that I will solve the problem?
Thank you!

I searched and searched...and I didn't found a solution.
Is there now a way to uninstall opera when it's not listed in the program list? It's driving me crazy!

reinstall opera. try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498019 (post #5)

Jabe said:
reinstall opera. try this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=498019 (post #5)
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Reinstalling doesn't work
When I try to do this, it say's something like "opera software asa opera 9.5 cannot be removed"

Did you just try to install on top of the current version, without uninstalling it?
I think this version is in some custom ROMs. The bug was definately the same and installing the version I linked to on top of the previous version always did the trick for me. But perhaps it depends on the ROM

Maybe it's because Opera mobile is my standard browser?
Could this be the reason why I can't re/uninstall it?

Another option is to try SKT Tools. You can kill opera.exe and I found several posts here and on PPCGeeks stating that it worked.
I tried it with the stock opera on my Sprint TP, and it worked (I do not even remember what the original version was). First time I got the same message (cannot delete...). But once I stopped the opera.exe from running, it worked just fine.
Hope this helps.
Mike

mike99 said:
Another option is to try SKT Tools. You can kill opera.exe and I found several posts here and on PPCGeeks stating that it worked.
I tried it with the stock opera on my Sprint TP, and it worked (I do not even remember what the original version was). First time I got the same message (cannot delete...). But once I stopped the opera.exe from running, it worked just fine.
Hope this helps.
Mike
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Thanks for advice, I will try it out and post wether it worked
At the moment I put my Xperia into his package, because I have to have to write my graduation tests next week and this phone in combination with this site holds my from learning

Opera and Flash, what a mess!

I have just get a Diamond2.
It has Flash lite 3.1 in ROM and it works inside PIE.
Unfortunately, PIE is pretty lame as a mobile browser and my beloved PIEPlus does not work anymore with this new version.
Fortunately, Diamond2 has Opera 9.5 build 16277 (a pretty recent build) installed.
Therefore, I supposed I had Flash inside Opera too.
Wrong, Opera does not show Flash clip!
I searched around and found a zillion Opera versions, someone with Flash support, someone not. And build number connection with Flash support is more or less random (some old version support it, some newer does't).
What a mess!

... and this is what everybody wants to read in the "Development & Hacking"-Board...
Try to re-install the Flash Mobile 3.1 Cab.

Or you can try the latest version of Iris Browser, it supports Flashlite 3.1 just fine.
There are several version of Opera that don't use the flash lite plugin at all, if you really need Opera, you can either try to reinstall flash, or find another version that supports flash and the zoombar of the diamond 2.

Are you sure Plugins are enabled in Opera's config? That's probably all it is.

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Are you sure Plugins are enabled in Opera's config? That's probably all it is.
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Yes, they are.

SKYFIRE!!!
Skyfire = flash 10

Like oruam57 I have a Diamond 2... have tried Flash Lite 3.1 plugin and it doesn't work with the 9.5 build 16277 of Opera :-/ bah.

i have the same problem. i can't get opera to work with flash, and i have tried everything.

Im having the same problem too with 16277?? Ive looked all over and had read somewhere that flash was built into this version of opera,(16277)??? I uninstalled the flashlite 3.1 that I had running and it still dont work?? I double and triple checked everything and my settings seem good , so Im stumpped.... I do have to say, out of all the operas I have trued this build rocks! Except for the flash thing though..?? Speed wise it blows 15954 away. Any1 got any ideas why flash isnt working? I just got a replacement so Im pretty much stock as far as ROM goes. 4 now anyways.

how do i remove opera

can someone tell me please how to remove the opera browser that comes already installed to htc touch hd please

It's on the ROM so you can't.
Use a cooked Lite ROM and then add only the programs you really use.

cheers for that mate .probably the best thing i can do what you say

using latest officials ROM.
what happend if i install Opera 9.7?
possible or not?
thx
pollo