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Diamond and Flashlite 3

okay, so flashlite 3 has been leaked, great! but why no instructions or reports in how to get it to work with htc diamond? all u hear reports from are kaiser usersl
I have the latest UK stock ROM and all i want to know is whether I can get flash working with the existing pre installed browser. I do not want an unclean installation method, nor do I wish to 'upgrade' my opera to some other build that is not customised for the diamond and that would lose key features such as the scroll wheel.
would appreciate your advice and experiences.

Some discussion here which might help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424021

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
try this.
make sure you have the latest opera... (im using the one in Dutty's 1.9 FULL) works on my diamond

jameslovell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
try this.
make sure you have the latest opera... (im using the one in Dutty's 1.9 FULL) works on my diamond
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Thats the thing. I dont want to use a cooked ROM. I want to keep my stock ROM, furthermore I dont want to force any version of Opera that isnt officially customised for Diamond. eg, I dont want to lose the likes of scroll wheel support etc

jameslovell said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=423860
try this.
make sure you have the latest opera... (im using the one in Dutty's 1.9 FULL) works on my diamond
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not one person on that thread has appeared to have tested this with the HTC Diamond.
This is the problem.

It won't run on stock. It needs the newest OS core an Opera 1938

koven said:
It won't run on stock. It needs the newest OS core an Opera 1938
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so basicly anyone who sticks to the stock HTC Diamond ROM has no way of using flash lite 3 with Opera?
Perfect.
Two steps forward, one step back.

Okay, considering it is the current leading WIndows Mobile device - can we please have some CLEAR CUT instructions as to how we can get Flash Lite 3 working on the HTC Touch Diamond? And by working I mean working on an OFFICIAL HTC stock ROM or network carrier ROM, I do not consider flashing to a cooked ROM and invalidating my warrenty a solution.
If Opera needs to be uprgraded, then please tell me how and what (diamond specific) features we lose.
Thanks.

I'm running Opera 1938 and I can still scroll with my finger to zoom, etc... Just try it, what have you got to lose?

darthbane2k said:
I have the latest UK stock ROM and all i want to know is whether I can get flash working with the existing pre installed browser. I do not want an unclean installation method, nor do I wish to 'upgrade' my opera to some other build that is not customised for the diamond and that would lose key features such as the scroll wheel.
would appreciate your advice and experiences.
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As you probably or rather hopefully know, there is no official non beta Flash Lite 3.x for Windows Mobile x.x and Opera Mobile x.x. Yet. Let alone one customised for the Diamond. At least, AFAIK. So, as you clearly are a consumer, nothing wrong with that, and taking your past and present Diamond related threads and posts into consideration, my sincere advice is you ignore all versions floating around and keep on enjoying or loathing your device as it is
Why don't you wait until HTC or your network carrier publish one suited for your stock ROM, again nothing wrong with that, including step by step written and video instructions on how to install? Then wait some more for the first user reviews to roll in, before deciding to jump in head first
Or, you can put some effort in, search for how to upgrade Opera and scrolling, experiment with what is available and help others out by sharing another kind of experience, like a lot of XDA members do.
Come to think of it.. No, please don't! I don't think you've got what it takes, still nothing wrong with that. You would probably only end up whining some more about how the Diamond sucks donkey balls, how HTC has done you wrong by tricking you into buying this incomplete, non functional device, and about the demise of Windows Mobile in general. Now, that boring routine could bug me a little
Seriously, no hard feelings, I really hope you enjoy your Diamond with all it's pros and cons and take care!

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darthbane2k if you have old flashlite or maybe flash installed it wont probably work even when you install new opera i had to hard reset it because i was unable to remove all parts left of flashlite 2.1 and flash 7

It worked reasonably in my Diamond , Youtube and other player based on
Flash, other swf, only render static.
Sorry for the English.
Rom version: 1.93.831.1.WWE - DiamondtProject Team
Radio version: 1.00.25.07

it works
Just Flashed My MDA Compact IV to Dutty V1.9.
It has Opera 9.5 1938 built in.
Then i installed the Flash Lite 3.1 cab.
Rebooted.
And lo and behold, i could view Youtube from within Opera!

darthbane2k said:
Okay, considering it is the current leading WIndows Mobile device - can we please have some CLEAR CUT instructions as to how we can get Flash Lite 3 working on the HTC Touch Diamond? And by working I mean working on an OFFICIAL HTC stock ROM or network carrier ROM, I do not consider flashing to a cooked ROM and invalidating my warrenty a solution.
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Flash lite 3.1 working fine for me
opera 9.5 build 1938, install both opera and flash lite to device memory
using TLR3 ROM
Instructions for upgrading opera can be found in the development and hacking section in the opera 9.5 thread.
Instructions for installing flash lite 3.1 can be found in the development and hacking section, flash lite 3.1 thread
Instructions for flashing your ROM can be found in the sticky in the diamond ROM section.
If you dont want to flash your rom and upgrade opera then there is little chance of you using flash lite 3 until adobe release an official version. But if you dont want to flash your rom and upgrade spftware then these forums may be the wrong place for your questions.
maybe here will be a better place for you to find support for official adobe lite development
http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/

It's work for me too.
youtube work almost very well, but dailymotion (specially for french) don't work. Maybe in another version of flash lite, the 3.5 are in development.
Thanks a lot for the developper

zeldomar said:
It's work for me too.
youtube work almost very well, but dailymotion (specially for french) don't work. Maybe in another version of flash lite, the 3.5 are in development.
Thanks a lot for the developper
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How to test if flash is working? I went to youtube and it always gives me m.youtube.com (for mobile) and when I clicked on the video, the streaming thing (windows media?) pops up and the video never shows up from within opera...
I went to adobe test page and the flash test video is blank... does it mean that it doesn't work? Any other site that I can test if flash is working?
FYI, I have the latest Opera build installed on SwiftBl cooked ROM. And I have modified the Opera.ini file so that I can use gmail on opera.
Edit: Got it to work now. I can see youtube from within Opera. It's the opera.ini file that I have modified that made youtube not load the videos from within the opera (but pop up windows media instead). I have fixed it now.

javascript & flash

ok pretty confused as don't see anyone else complaining, but java does not work on my stock Opera, and installing flashlite didn't work for flash (test sites are nhc.noaa.gov satellite imagery loops for java and news.bbc.co.uk for flash video) does this work for you guys? Have TF3D installed, Youtube works, and so does my media panel. thanks for advice (p.s. I do have java enabled in Opera)

Where can you download Flash Lite?

Flash lite only supports flash scripts to version 9 (could even be 8), whilst most of the web is using 10 these days.

artesea said:
Flash lite only supports flash scripts to version 9 (could even be 8), whilst most of the web is using 10 these days.
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Well, actually it does only fully supports Flash 7, while it has some features originating from Flash 8 and Flash 9, most of the Flash 8 content is not playable since it misses some features.

Ok, thanks for info re: Flash, but what about Java? Frigging annoying that my brother's 2 year old Blackberry can play this loop but my phone can't!!! Link is http://www.goes.noaa.gov/HURRLOOPS/huvsloop.html and if if works on someones Opera I would love to know what I am doing wrong...

I would like to know about this too.
Anybody care to elaborate?.

Flash Lite 3.1 Distributable Player (Official Adobe cab file) :-)

This is the official cab file of Flash Lite 3.1 for WM6 from Adobe, available as distributable player for Developers.
Note to Mods: Please delete/close this thread if it is a repost.

Finally, the official version without bugs.
All my flash 7 app's work fine with this!
Thank you.

twolf said:
Finally, the official version without bugs.
All my flash 7 app's work fine with this!
Thank you.
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Does this mean that I can uninstall FP7 and rely on only this? That would be great!!!

Yes, you can. I still didnt found a way to use it on opera or IE, but its working flawlessly on all my apps.

OK, first incompatibility:
I installed WM6.5 on my BA and FEwidgetslite bombs out. Works fine with the OPAL version of 3.1.

Not sure how fewidgets work, but if its similar to throttlehtml it should be as simple as editing the html file it reads to have this code.
(Change the name TESTE and the size 550x400...)

motisu said:
OK, first incompatibility:
I installed WM6.5 on my BA and FEwidgetslite bombs out. Works fine with the OPAL version of 3.1.
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OTOH, I installed this one and installed the old version of FEwidgets (which needed FP7) and it works GREAT!!

twolf said:
Not sure how fewidgets work, but if its similar to throttlehtml it should be as simple as editing the html file it reads to have this code.
(Change the name TESTE and the size 550x400...)
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Sorry but I didn'tt understand what I have to change the name to and where it should go. Also, why 550X400, the BA is standard QVGA 320X240?

No, I exported that html code from Flash CS4, its the standart code to read flash lite 3 (not sure youll need all that, maybe just the OBJECT area).
You'll "just" need to change all that has the name TESTE.swf to (not sure whats the name you need) FEwidget.swf(?) with the fewidget size 240x295(?) instead of the 550x400 that my html had.

what do i need to do to make this work with opera? do i need to setup anything else other than installing the .cab file?

pcrot said:
what do i need to do to make this work with opera? do i need to setup anything else other than installing the .cab file?
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hi, inspecting the CAB I could not find a COM control on any of the dlls, do you know if this release has the ActiveX necesary for IE/opera? or is it just the player?
thanks a lot.
Nico.

never mind, I got my answer...

Not a plugin
nicodega said:
hi, inspecting the CAB I could not find a COM control on any of the dlls, do you know if this release has the ActiveX necesary for IE/opera? or is it just the player?
thanks a lot.
Nico.
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Hi all
According to the Adobe website this distributable packages is in fact a stand alone player, not a web browser plugin. Can anybody confirm this? I can't get it to work with Opera the way the previous versions did.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking

This is the standalone player only, the official wordings state it all (see below). I got it from here: http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/distributableplayer/
Flash Lite 3.1 Distributable Player.
Flash Lite 3.1 includes the same features as Flash Lite 3.0, such as support for Flash Player compatible video, with some additional enhancements including improved security model for SWF file access. The solution delivers a standalone player for applications, without affecting the Flash Lite browser plug-in or pre-installed standalone player, if present.

The player posted in this thread does not work when you tap the .exe located in \Storage Card\program files\Adobe\FlashLite. You have to use a program to associate .swf with the .exe, then it will open, however from what I've tried so far..everything has been very slow..
I'm disappointed because there is no zoom feature, or quality toggle..there are less options than the previous flash lites.

mikeeey said:
The player posted in this thread does not work when you tap the .exe located in \Storage Card\program files\Adobe\FlashLite. You have to use a program to associate .swf with the .exe, then it will open, however from what I've tried so far..everything has been very slow..
I'm disappointed because there is no zoom feature, or quality toggle..there are less options than the previous flash lites.
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The Adobe Mobile Packager is also available on this page http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/distributableplayer.html so you can take the .swf and package it yourself to run in Flash Lite 3.1 ...

Thanks, I was hoping for something like that for a long time, but...
Tried it, hated it...
But hey, at least it exists now...

what does "max number of subdirectories exceeded" mean? When I try to compile a flash game I get this error..
I've tried to get this game to work, dice wars:
http://www.gamedesign.jp/flash/dice/dice.html

he is trying to compact all the files and folders he "sees" into a cab file, you need to separate your project with only the files you want in a different folder for him to pack...
I really didnt liked that swf>exe builder...
I'd advice this one:
http://www.bryht.com/flashapp.htm
Its old and only works for qvga/vga, but its so much better to use...

twolf said:
he is trying to compact all the files and folders he "sees" into a cab file, you need to separate your project with only the files you want in a different folder for him to pack...
I really didnt liked that swf>exe builder...
I'd advice this one:
http://www.bryht.com/flashapp.htm
Its old and only works for qvga/vga, but its so much better to use...
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thanks twolf, it worked!, well, compiling it did, but flash 3.1 did not know how to handle the .swf. it says "Error: ActionScript Stuck"
Atleast I can try with other flash games and movies.
I check out the other flash packager as well.

Opera and Flash, what a mess!

I have just get a Diamond2.
It has Flash lite 3.1 in ROM and it works inside PIE.
Unfortunately, PIE is pretty lame as a mobile browser and my beloved PIEPlus does not work anymore with this new version.
Fortunately, Diamond2 has Opera 9.5 build 16277 (a pretty recent build) installed.
Therefore, I supposed I had Flash inside Opera too.
Wrong, Opera does not show Flash clip!
I searched around and found a zillion Opera versions, someone with Flash support, someone not. And build number connection with Flash support is more or less random (some old version support it, some newer does't).
What a mess!

... and this is what everybody wants to read in the "Development & Hacking"-Board...
Try to re-install the Flash Mobile 3.1 Cab.

Or you can try the latest version of Iris Browser, it supports Flashlite 3.1 just fine.
There are several version of Opera that don't use the flash lite plugin at all, if you really need Opera, you can either try to reinstall flash, or find another version that supports flash and the zoombar of the diamond 2.

Are you sure Plugins are enabled in Opera's config? That's probably all it is.

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Are you sure Plugins are enabled in Opera's config? That's probably all it is.
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Yes, they are.

SKYFIRE!!!
Skyfire = flash 10

Like oruam57 I have a Diamond 2... have tried Flash Lite 3.1 plugin and it doesn't work with the 9.5 build 16277 of Opera :-/ bah.

i have the same problem. i can't get opera to work with flash, and i have tried everything.

Im having the same problem too with 16277?? Ive looked all over and had read somewhere that flash was built into this version of opera,(16277)??? I uninstalled the flashlite 3.1 that I had running and it still dont work?? I double and triple checked everything and my settings seem good , so Im stumpped.... I do have to say, out of all the operas I have trued this build rocks! Except for the flash thing though..?? Speed wise it blows 15954 away. Any1 got any ideas why flash isnt working? I just got a replacement so Im pretty much stock as far as ROM goes. 4 now anyways.

Flash Lite 3.1 for X1 vs Flash Player 7 vs another version of Flash Lite 3.1?

Does anyone know the differences to these confusing apps?
There has been a release of Flash Player 7 and the Flash Lite 3.1 for X1, and there is also another Flash Lite 3.1 for all PPC's.
What is the freaking difference?

For all I know, the Flash Lite 3.1 distributable player is the latest from Adobe. Flash 7 player for pocket PC was quite old. The distributable player allows over-the-air installation, at least for a few selected countries (like US, UK) initially. It currently support S60 and WM 6.1 platform. You can also download the player from:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/distributableplayer/
Note that this player is for playback of standalone Flash application (packaged as cab for WM and sis for S60). That is not to be confused with the Flash player that comes with Pocket IE 6 in WM 6.5 which allows viewing of Flash-based web page.
I have tested it against WM6.5 and it seemed to work fine.

Please note that the first flash lite 3 released here was not the final and was very buggy. The latest one works perfectly.
Flash lite 2.1 and Flash 7 = Flash 7 with 2.0 actionscript code.
Flash lite 3.1 = Flash 8 with 2.0 actionscript code (that includes flv support).
The main differences between lite 2.1 and 7 are a few cellphone related fscommand codes (like battery status, network status, make call, send sms, etc).
But lite 2.1 has its own player, something that flash 7 never had and lite 3.1 has "hidden". You need to customize your explorer to always open (offline) swf files with the exe available in the adobe flash directory.
PS: Both Flash lites are a little faster that flash 7, but also easier to come up with memory errors for my taste.

Also, what I meant by Flash Lite for X1, is actually Flash Lite for Opera
Someone from Adobe forums told me this:
Flash Lite is a runtime for mobile phones, that has a smaller subset of features than the Flash Player.
Probably you see Flash Player 7 for Opera because it was a version created specifically for that browser.
Flash Lite doesn't support every single Flash App that's on the Web, because as I said before it has a smaller subset of features than Flash Player.
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Is this guy wrong?
Here is the link:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/1965079#1965079
Also, I have installed 3 different adobe flashes on my Xperia, and I do not want to have all three.
I have these:
Adobe Flashlite (I got this from Adobe Website)
Adobe Flash Lite for Opera (I got this from XDA forum)
Macromedia Flash Player ActiveX (aka Flash Player 6)
Which one's do I need to keep? Does anyone remember where the Flash Lite for Opera.cab came from?
Which Flash applications should I keep?
(Your informations are really helpful, and thanks...I hope to hear from more people and more answers)

The newest flash 3.1 does not work at all, it doesn't enable the youtube video player to work.
The old flash 3.1 only works with opera.
The flash player 7 is exactly like the old flash 3.1.
I tested all three using opera and internet explorer.
I tested:
youtube.com
ytmnd.com
newgrounds.com
For youtube, I had to click on "desktop" view in order to make the real youtube player visible. Anyways, no one has provided an answer that seems to make sense...
I am still confused.

Anybody can point a download link for the 'Fliash Lite 3.1 for x1'?
I want to try it but seems can not search out the download link.
Thanks.

you can't run flash files which is on your mobile phone by flash lite but flash player

tcchuin said:
you can't run flash files which is on your mobile phone by flash lite but flash player
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I just want to try different versions of flash plugin on a lite ROM. So I asked for the download link of 'Flash Lite 3.1 for X1'.
BTW, for flash player, which one is better?
Tx.