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There are numerous video's out there showing things the HD can do but MY version certainly can NOT. And despite how cool these features are, surprisingly hardly Anybody talks about them, I find almost no information anywhere on this forum or on Google.
Check out this video, for example. A nice demonstration of LOTS of features that to my knowledge do not exist on the HD:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-hands-on-with-the-htc-touch-hd-windows-mobile-smartphone
- First of all, the thing that caught my eye the most, is THE LACK OF THE ZOOM TRANSITION EFFECT BETWEEN PAGES THAT WAS IN ALL THE PREVIEW VIDEO'S.
- Then, there's the the IN CALL RECORDER application. Where the heck is it?!
- And even more important (yes I like graphics), the OPERA TAB SWITCHING, with its Cover Flow-ish way of showing all the open tabs as separate windows in semi-3D... See the attached screenshots. Also note how the buttons in the browser (at the bottom) are aligned differently. Can I get this Opera version somewhere?
The list goes on.
Why are these things not in the HD, or are they in yours and just not in mine?? Is it some firmware update I don't know about?
Please, enlighten me.
why they have removed the tabbing feature is beyond me.
I wonder if these are features that can be enabled?
My girlfriend has the Nokia N96 and her version of Opera even supports this. No, it does not look as fancy with the reflections and all, but the same tab windowing is there.
Also they said this version would include Flash Lite 3.1 well I can't even watch a video on the YouTube site. It does show more than without plugin (the movie overviews) but no playback.
And the zoom effect... As stated in a different thread it may be a performance issue, I can imagine it can cause freezes and instability, just like with the Manila tab-to-tab scrolling where you would see one screen flip away and the other one in, like on the first Diamond firmware versions. They just removed that transition because it lagged a lot.
Too bad.. The zoom effect looked really nice, albeit a bit iPhonish...
The Opera tab navigation is a mystery to me though. It's completely unrelated to other software and so it would not cause instability, it's just a missing feature in Opera.
And where is my in call recorder?? Such a tool seems very handy in a lot of situations, such as when contacting help desks, customers etc.
hi guys,
i'm also very interested to enable or find the OPERA TAB SWITCHING like on symbian nokia or iphone, it is really great;
and another thing, i want to have more than 3 pages open at the same time in opera, and it is set to 3 maximum...do you know where to set more pages allowed.?
thanks
While I agree it sucks that some features were pulled, it happens. One feature I do like (a lot) that was left in was the zoom feature in Opera (not the tap on page thing).
Click on the magnifying glass (bottom left) when in full screen mode, zoom away.
So in an effort to contribute back everything that I have found int he month of using this wonderful Device... I would like to give back to the forum and go over.. everything I have got on my device and why.
Device is Touch HD on the AT&T network (Edge) in California, USA
[size=+1]Applications (in no particular order) :[/size]
ApptoDate : Keeps my applications up to date so I dont have to monitor the various threads to figure out if i have the latest version of the wonderful software that people here devleop. I think it is a SIN for people not to make their apps apptodate compatible.
Micorosft Office Communicator : For work
Alpha Facebook app : new facebbok app under development
CorePlayer : The only way to watch videos on the Touch HD
Flashlite 3.1 : Adds flash support to SOME websites, mainly YouTube
Google Maps : Get the 2.3 version, it also has Streetview
Gyrator2 : Once configured properly for inclusions and exclusions, a wonderful tool
Live Search : The new (beta) version will use cell tower signal to find my location and speech recognition is awesome... within 30 seconds i can open the app, have it locate me and say burger king and it will give me all the burger kings close to me on a map. AWESOME.. does movies, restaruants, flickr phots near me and lots of cool things. Definitely one of my daily use applications, with location services
MyMobiler : To get my phone screen on my desktop with the Touch HD skin
MusicID : Works very welll for identifying music that is playing. Definitely a crowd pleaser
Opera : Browser.. nuff said
PhoneAlarm : My must have app. This app does so much, but I only use it for automatic profile switching, location based, calendar based and time based.. so at night it goes to silent by tiself, when im in a meeting it vibrates itself and when i go to the mall it goes to super loud itself.. no user intevention... super useful. Also switches off bluetooth and wifi and push mail if battery goes down below 20%
Pocket Sportcenter : To keep tabs on my Sports
Registry Editor : for the times you need to edit registry
SKTools : Lots of cool utilities here for when you need them
SlingPlayer Mobile : Use this to watch stuff on my tivo when im away or travelling.
SpbTime : The most finger friendly and nice looking app for setting alarms and timers and stopwatch
Sprite Backup : Automatic backup scheduled for 4:0am on sundays. sweet
Total Commander : Useful utility to put files where they need to go, specially manila files
TouchOff : Gives me the option to soft reset when i i hold down the power button
WIMP : So i can track my phone. I send an SMS to it it locks a satellite and sends an sms back to me... for when it gets stolen or lost
S2U2 : Tricky. Not using it for the unlocking as it was absolutely KILLING my battery. Using it for the caller id feature which is very nice
Second Today : Need this to run phone alarm mainly
Homescreen++ : To measure how much battery is being drawn at any given time
MortScript : Script application which allows me to have an automatic wallpaper changer (among other things).
Schaps Advanced Config : Very cool lets me tweak a bunch of things :
HD Tweak : See above
Diamond TF3D Tweak : See above
JetCet Print : Ive used it and it actually does print to my shared printer. Cool for printing webpages, directions or emails
[size=+1]Visual Tweaks :[/size]
BackGround4Alltabs : While this is cool, it does give all the tabs a background of your choice, on the Touch HD it also has a bug where it messes up your manila screens, so your programs list, your stocks, music player all that will have a 160px transparent strip at the top, which beceoms very very annoying
Prophecy Glass Clock : Very nice glass clock
Darklord Battery meter : For the battery using percentage
Darklord Taskbar
LumOS : Because it is better than the stock one and it uses less battery
15 Tabs : Adds tabs for calendar, comm-manager, call history and sound profiles
TFL3DIcons V3 : Nice icons on the tabs in TF3D
NisseDilliaf's No curtains : Removes the top and bottom curtains for a much cleaner look and makes the homescreen look bigger
Panosha Black Dialer : Much improved Dialer
Panosha Clauclator Skin : MUCH improved calculator skin
noProgBK : This removes the ugly grey buttons from the programs tab and their icons. much cleaner look
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SD Tuneup : Makes for faster SD performance. Very useful
.net 3.5 : need this for certain apps. make sure you go in the registry and change 3.5 to be the default .net one. Apps run faster
(Im sure im missing stuff in this section)
[size=+1]Games :[/size]
Teeter : Very good use of the G-sensor
Resco Bubbles : Also good use of the G-sensor
Astraware Casino : Mainly for my Hold em Poker fix
Astraware boardgames : Chess, checkers, backgammon
I will keep eidintg this post as things that I forgot come to me and I will also try over the next few days to add links to threads and programs within this list, as well as more screenshots.
I would also be willing to take any questions if anyone had any about the above post.
Useful, thanks.
Quick q: which do you feel benefit in speed terms from being in internal memory?
Did lumos cause you any problems? I read that it interferes with some applications, specifically Opera. Thanks
i installed Darklord Battery meter but nothing happens, no change what so ever, even after a shot reset, am i doing something wrong?
arfster said:
Useful, thanks.
Quick q: which do you feel benefit in speed terms from being in internal memory?
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This may not be the most scientific approach, but my decision factors on what to install to main memory are :
1) If the install size is below 50K, and is a phone related install and not an app... it goes to main memory
2) If its something I need in case my SD card crashes or gets lost... it goes to main memory (e.g total commander, registry editor)
3) If its something that my phone really needs in main memory as suggested by either the application or forums and research, it goes to main memory (.net 3.5)
michael_r said:
Did lumos cause you any problems? I read that it interferes with some applications, specifically Opera. Thanks
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No problems that I can see so far, and not even in Opera
frostywrath said:
i installed Darklord Battery meter but nothing happens, no change what so ever, even after a shot reset, am i doing something wrong?
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That is weird, did you also install the sdkcerts.cab file i dont know the process quite well yet, but I do know that was a required cab before doing icons and I beleive also the battery
A bit of a pain in the neck, but might be really useful if you had links to the sites to get the apps.
Okay, I'll bite. Here's my equivalent list (without repeating what's already posted):
SoftMaker Office 2008:
Replacement for Pocket Word/Excel. Pocket Word is okay for minor uses, but if you use spreadsheets as much as I do, Pocket Excel is comically inadequate (especially after the backward steps it has taken from WM5 to WM6).
PhatNotes:
I use textual notes/lists a lot, too, and the built in software in WM does not cut it for me.
SprintDB Pro:
Relational database. I find this to be the best way to maintain my movie lists.
BackCountry Navigator:
A GPS mapping/tracking software based on map downloads on the fly. It gives me peace of mind against getting lost when I'm hiking or mountain biking in the middle of nowhere (at least in those cases where I might have a network signal).
Pocket TOPO:
The pocket version of the National Geographic TOPO! topographic map software. Does route planning and GPS tracking as well. (Unlike BackCountry Navigator, only works with limited maps exported from its own desktop PC version.)
Pocket Stars:
Good sky guide. I can't say I'm even close to using it regularly. But it's still there for the rare occasion when I might need it.
TapBirds:
Bird identification field guide. Do you see a general "outdoors" theme here?
Pocket Player:
I use it mainly for audio books. It has a good resume feature and very good bookmarking capabilities.
AIDEM File Explorer:
Just a free File Explorer replacement that I find capable enough for my own needs, for those occasional cases where the original File Explorer is a bit too restrictive.
TomeRaider:
Book reader. It allows me to carry around with me a whole bookcase of books and reference sources, including an almost complete IMDB movie database and two (count 'em, two) offline full-text copies of Wikipedia. (One is slightly smaller and older than the other but includes images...)
Viigo:
Very decent RSS reader, though it's been diversifying into a ton of other useful features lately.
Calc98:
Much more capable free replacement for the built-in WM calculator. Good for some scientific calculation, base conversions, and unit conversions, too.
DirMap:
Utility for displaying directory subtree sizes. Also features graphic display of space usage. Very handy when trying to figure out what's taking up storage space.
FTP Client:
Very useful when I need to access some file that I don't have with me but is available on the FTP-accessible server I run at home.
Opera Mini:
Always a good idea to have additional browsers handy, for cases when one goes haywire or has specific incompatibilities with a particular website that another browser might handle just fine.
Pocket Gforce:
Poor man's vehicle dynamics analysis tool (G force measurement, acceleration/deceleration, 0-60 mph, etc.) I haven't gotten to play with it yet, but it might be a fun distraction during my next autocross event.
Resco Photo Viewer:
I had bought this for an earlier WM PDA, but it's still got more features than any photo viewing/slideshow software that comes with the Touch HD, so I still use it.
Pocket Streets:
My 2001 version still works with the Touch HD. It's still the most handy (virtually) free offline map software, if you ask me.
PocketLock:
File and directory encryption software. Quite strong encryption. I love how intuitive its integration is. (Double-clicking a file, first launches PocketLock to decrypt, than the host app to open the file. Closing the file automatically triggers PocketLock to ask you whether you want to encrypt it again.) I've been using this on every version of Windows Mobile since "Pocket PC 2002"!
Storage Tools:
I use this to fix storage card file system corruptions, and the occasional storage card defragmentation.
WMStopWatch:
At one point, this was the only free stopwatch program I could find for WM that would not stop when I turned off the device--a crucial requirement when you want to time anything longer than a few minutes.
vxIPConfig and vxUtil:
Some nice old-fashioned free networking utilities that I like keeping under my hand (trace route, port scanner, DNS lookup, ping, finger, whois, etc.).
Links? (for the lazy)
Electronic Program Guide (EPG)
Does anyone now if there is a EPG?
Especially for The Netherlands????
EPG, that would be a cracker, iPhone users have it, whay we cannot.
Dodger said:
Does anyone now if there is a EPG?
Especially for The Netherlands????
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that is what i want as well but for UK and Poland.... anyone aware of software of this type please.... searched net but cannot locate anything really.
THX
Dodger said:
Does anyone now if there is a EPG?
Especially for The Netherlands????
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Especially dutch:
http://www.breukelman.net/fbtv/index2.html
witch program u used to change the background of the main menu even as u switch tru all tabs like people, messages, music ect? and also if u could provide a link to it
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Prophecy Glass Clock : Very nice glass clock
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Here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2570674&postcount=8
Vanstra,
thanks for the FBTV tip, super!
What about battery life after all these?
taimoorhusain said:
So in an effort to contribute back everything that I have found int he month of using this wonderful Device... I would like to give back to the forum and go over.. everything I have got on my device and why.
Device is Touch HD on the AT&T network (Edge) in California, USA
[size=+1]Applications (in no particular order) :[/size]
ApptoDate : Keeps my applications up to date so I dont have to monitor the various threads to figure out if i have the latest version of the wonderful software that people here devleop. I think it is a SIN for people not to make their apps apptodate compatible.
Micorosft Office Communicator : For work
Alpha Facebook app : new facebbok app under development
CorePlayer : The only way to watch videos on the Touch HD
Flashlite 3.1 : Adds flash support to SOME websites, mainly YouTube
Google Maps : Get the 2.3 version, it also has Streetview
Gyrator2 : Once configured properly for inclusions and exclusions, a wonderful tool
Live Search : The new (beta) version will use cell tower signal to find my location and speech recognition is awesome... within 30 seconds i can open the app, have it locate me and say burger king and it will give me all the burger kings close to me on a map. AWESOME.. does movies, restaruants, flickr phots near me and lots of cool things. Definitely one of my daily use applications, with location services
MyMobiler : To get my phone screen on my desktop with the Touch HD skin
MusicID : Works very welll for identifying music that is playing. Definitely a crowd pleaser
Opera : Browser.. nuff said
PhoneAlarm : My must have app. This app does so much, but I only use it for automatic profile switching, location based, calendar based and time based.. so at night it goes to silent by tiself, when im in a meeting it vibrates itself and when i go to the mall it goes to super loud itself.. no user intevention... super useful. Also switches off bluetooth and wifi and push mail if battery goes down below 20%
Pocket Sportcenter : To keep tabs on my Sports
Registry Editor : for the times you need to edit registry
SKTools : Lots of cool utilities here for when you need them
SlingPlayer Mobile : Use this to watch stuff on my tivo when im away or travelling.
SpbTime : The most finger friendly and nice looking app for setting alarms and timers and stopwatch
Sprite Backup : Automatic backup scheduled for 4:0am on sundays. sweet
Total Commander : Useful utility to put files where they need to go, specially manila files
TouchOff : Gives me the option to soft reset when i i hold down the power button
WIMP : So i can track my phone. I send an SMS to it it locks a satellite and sends an sms back to me... for when it gets stolen or lost
S2U2 : Tricky. Not using it for the unlocking as it was absolutely KILLING my battery. Using it for the caller id feature which is very nice
Second Today : Need this to run phone alarm mainly
Homescreen++ : To measure how much battery is being drawn at any given time
MortScript : Script application which allows me to have an automatic wallpaper changer (among other things).
Schaps Advanced Config : Very cool lets me tweak a bunch of things :
HD Tweak : See above
Diamond TF3D Tweak : See above
JetCet Print : Ive used it and it actually does print to my shared printer. Cool for printing webpages, directions or emails
[size=+1]Visual Tweaks :[/size]
BackGround4Alltabs : While this is cool, it does give all the tabs a background of your choice, on the Touch HD it also has a bug where it messes up your manila screens, so your programs list, your stocks, music player all that will have a 160px transparent strip at the top, which beceoms very very annoying
Prophecy Glass Clock : Very nice glass clock
Darklord Battery meter : For the battery using percentage
Darklord Taskbar
LumOS : Because it is better than the stock one and it uses less battery
15 Tabs : Adds tabs for calendar, comm-manager, call history and sound profiles
TFL3DIcons V3 : Nice icons on the tabs in TF3D
NisseDilliaf's No curtains : Removes the top and bottom curtains for a much cleaner look and makes the homescreen look bigger
Panosha Black Dialer : Much improved Dialer
Panosha Clauclator Skin : MUCH improved calculator skin
noProgBK : This removes the ugly grey buttons from the programs tab and their icons. much cleaner look
[size=+1]Other Tweaks :[/size]
SD Tuneup : Makes for faster SD performance. Very useful
.net 3.5 : need this for certain apps. make sure you go in the registry and change 3.5 to be the default .net one. Apps run faster
(Im sure im missing stuff in this section)
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Teeter : Very good use of the G-sensor
Resco Bubbles : Also good use of the G-sensor
Astraware Casino : Mainly for my Hold em Poker fix
Astraware boardgames : Chess, checkers, backgammon
I will keep eidintg this post as things that I forgot come to me and I will also try over the next few days to add links to threads and programs within this list, as well as more screenshots.
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Hi,
I am wondering about the battery drain after installing all these, can you please enlighten me..... and links to those applications will be appreciated
phone alarm itself is a magical program for preserving battery life. I use it to turn off connections, bluetooth etc etc at various times of the day (don't need anything at night when I'm in bed but I still use the alarm so putting it into flight mode can save hours of battery life for example). I can get my battery to last 3 days or more using this piece of software.
First of all thanks taimoor for this thread good one,
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twisted-pixel said:
phone alarm itself is a magical program for preserving battery life. I use it to turn off connections, bluetooth etc etc at various times of the day (don't need anything at night when I'm in bed but I still use the alarm so putting it into flight mode can save hours of battery life for example). I can get my battery to last 3 days or more using this piece of software.
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thank you for this info i think i will intall that app
There are two parallel projects to port HTC's Touchflo 3d to X1:
itje's Manilla:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442154
and
Daran Clarkes TF3DHDB2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=428351
For people who have tried both please vote which has your preference at the current states of build.
Seeing as I'm 100% sure that people who vote have just tried -one- of the ports and comment on that one.
The poll isn't called "which one did you install" it's meant to be a review of both. As these builds get better and better we need a source for newbs as to how the ports differ.
So if you can post some differences that you found between the two ports.
PS: I have both an X1 and a Touch HD for comparison.
1. Manilla
Plus
-Works fast, quick to install.
Minus
-Needs around 10 individual .cabs to work.
-Album doesn't work out of the box
-Audio doesn't work out of the box
-The system highlights have been changed into black / black. Whereas on teh original HD Touch HD the highlight (new sms indicator), clock highlights, comms highlights are neon green.
-The clockface is black instead of the original white.
-Camera and video icons don't work on the album screen.
-Some lockups now and again.
2. TF3DHDB2
Plus
-One main .cab
-4 add-ons
-All aspects of touchflo 3d work out of the box.
I.e. Camera and video icons work on album screen, system highlights are the correct colour, as is the clock.
-Really in comparing to my HD system speed is almost identical, i.e. I can't tell any difference. Launching youtube is slightly faster on the X1, browsers opening from the internet tab is slightly faster on the HD. Weather updates are 1:1, etc. This is all out of the box hard reset, i.e. no file or glyph tweaks yet.
Minus
-Relatively long time to install
The main difference between a real Touch HD and the above two builds is remains obviously the speed of loading the OS into a useable state after a cold start. The HD is pretty much quickly useable whereas on the X1 we have to wait for the TouchFlo3D to load.
For reference, my setup is (after hard reset):
-Touchflo3D HD Beta 2
-HTC Phone.cab
-HTC Volume.cab
-Touch IT Keyboard.cab
-FM Radio HD app
-Snailslug TouchResponse (to get the small vibration jolts when you touch the screen like on the real HD)
-All annoying windows mobile SMS balloons disabled (see thread), sms now works identical to HD.
I disabled all the panels apart from the one you can't turn off as I don't really use them. Why have a youtube or google panel if selecting these from the internet tab works 6x faster.
Lets hear people who have actually used both builds comment on their experiences.
I'm a noob, about to get an Xperia in a few days and would like to put the touchFLO interface on it. I am also confused as to which one of the two to go with.
I'm not so interested with how long or hard it is to install, I'm mainly interested in how complete and reliable it is, with speed/performance a second priority.
It appears from you're post that Manilla is the one to do for, Though I was under the impression from another post that I saw that the other version was better. I'm very confused and frustrated having to research pages of posts outlining individual bugs with each versions, trying to see which is more complete.
I would also rather TouchFLO as a panel, can this be done with both versions? or one in particular
I like the summary you have provided of both versions, I find very helpful. I am looking forward to anything other users have to say about both versions.
hambargarz said:
I'm not so interested with how long or hard it is to install, I'm mainly interested in how complete and reliable it is, with speed/performance a second priority.
It appears from you're post that Manilla is the one to do for,
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You mean probably TF3DHDB2 not Manilla.
Yes you can run as a panel, you need TF3DPanelInstaller.cab. First install the main TF3DB2.cab, then install panel. Basically TF3DB2.cab installs itself as your home panel. You need to follow the instructions for panelising it, I believe you need to uncheck the touchflo3d on the today panel items, before you install but I'm not sure, check with someone else. Also check if TF3DHDB2 can run as a panel or if it's just Manilla that works with the panelinstaller.cab, I'm unsure. Hell you could try it and tell us.
Don't get frustrated, I got my X1 just last week and figured all this stuff out on my own. Basically what helped me was running through the two threads above. TF3DB2.cab is the one to go for. It's almost as fast as my Touch HD, apart from album and audio, that remains faster on my HD. Although I do hear Daran is coming out with TF3DB3 next week? That should finish this whole port off.
But if you just want to start, hard reset your X1 and load the files I run (listed above), there you go, weeks of looking through threads resolved.
PS: All the apps I listed there is only one version from, usually listed on the front page (post 1) of both threads linked above.
Hi all,
you can panelize TF3DHDB2 works fine for me
i chose manilla simply because TF3DB2 kept freezing on me, i had to remove the battery to restart 2-3 times a day
i installed manilla 2 days ago and no freezes whatsoever.
i dont mind not having pics and music cause i use the media panel for those which is MUCH better.
id just like to see someone incorporate tf3d tabs that rotate or disable the roate option cause anything is better than hose ugly lines that appear when the screen is rotated
itje, daran's project seems not well supported. itje released a great rom with tf3d working out of the box and fix issues very quickly
I've tried both, and thought the HD one was faster.
My vote goes to TF3DHDB2 simply because A2DP works in it and this is essential for me.
A bit of 'customer feedback' etc:
I was going to ask a question, because I have a specific request, but then thought rather than limit the thread why not make it a general feature request for custom ROMs, for people to come up with new ideas etc for our esteemed cooks to implement.
Anyway, this is my request:
Can we have a 'delete' icon on the SMS and Email tabs in Sense, so we can delete junk emails as they arrive without having to open them first?
Thanks
Paul.
some requests from the Chefs
1 - transparency all over, everywhere.
2 - no curtains anywhere
3 - small sized colour icon pack for taskbar, notifications, startbutton
4 - built in Slide-2-Unlock (ask the devs)
5 - all stock photo's , stock stocks, stock footprints delete
6 - clock packs in cabs with installation. Clock with seconds
7 - actionscreen on endcall button and left softkey
8 - preinstall my own application Reperion (find your phone back after theft)
9 - Organized startmenu !!!! All these freaking icons need to much scrolling!
10- built in ACR HD2 (automatic call recording)
11 built in musicID latest version
etc etc.. let the cooking begin
stable, stable , very stable ~
Hope this gonna be true
Sense 2.1!
I wish I could have the folowing.
- Without Copilot8 trial
- WM messaging (not HTC messaging) by default
Well. that's all..
Something that I'd definitely want is a simple and useful task manager that would make switching between say the music player and browser much less of a chore(I have the taskmanager on my startscreen as a quick launch icon). Just mapping the current task manager to one of the hard buttons would suffice.
* Super-fast.
* Loads of free ROM space - dump all unneeded crap like wallpapers and ringtones as separate cabs
* WM 6.5.x (a must!)
* Stock Manila with options to customise
* Dump Jblend for Jbed. Jbed is sooo much faster
* Microsoft Bluetooth Stack... if possible (probably not).
1- delete button on the email tab
2- graphical task switcher (similar to Windows 7) with touch scrolling through tasks
3- larger buttons (see NRJ Blackstone ROMs)
4- enable windows Mobile contacts in HTC "People" so you don't have to use the Windows Contacts application to create Windows Live contacts.
5- Ported Google Maps Navigation application from Android
6- enable importing of facebook phone numbers when linking contact to facebook, currently only birthday and picture are being imported.
Don't know if this is possible but
1. Option to save all e-mail (not just attachments) from all accounts to microSD
2. Import facebook birthday from contacts to calendar
3. Eliminate bugs with alarm app, sometimes I have to press 2-3 times to get into app
- Without Copilot8 trial
- WM messaging (not HTC messaging) by default
The Main to reqeusts, get rid of the buggy HTC messaging and CoPilot trial to save space!
- as close to stock as possible.
- option to have chinese traditional support (dislay/keyboard)
Dont take this the wrong way but..
Many chefs here choose to make their ROMs to fit the "market", to please as many as possible. So changes as, transparency there, transparency here, app this, app that. Its just to specific to each induvidual that want a cooked ROM.
Dont get me wrong, its good that you guys tell the/us chefs what you want. But this could just be done in the chefs ROM threads instead.
Just read the posts. Many of you takes up the same things. If you want a ROM that fist all youre needs, cook it youre self (Or talk to a nice chef to do if for you?).
Just my 2 cents..
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Dont take this the wrong way but..
Many chefs here choose to make their ROMs to fit the "market", to please as many as possible. So changes as, transparency there, transparency here, app this, app that. Its just to specific to each induvidual that want a cooked ROM.
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I couldn't agree more. I don't "cook" myself, but I'm an avid taster
I would personally LOVE to see a ROM with nothing but the basics on there, along with a list of CABs, in order to install anything not included. That way, we can have a real lite version of the OS & GUI, and customize the software ourselves. I'm just after more space, and less of what I don't actually want!
johncmolyneux said:
I couldn't agree more. I don't "cook" myself, but I'm an avid taster
I would personally LOVE to see a ROM with nothing but the basics on there, along with a list of CABs, in order to install anything not included. That way, we can have a real lite version of the OS & GUI, and customize the software ourselves. I'm just after more space, and less of what I don't actually want!
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Excactly.. There are UC comp ROMs and SHASHIMI to tweak the phone after HR, so just cooking some stuff in it is worse imo. I just dont se the point.
barbapappa_86 said:
Excactly.. There are UC comp ROMs and SHASHIMI to tweak the phone after HR, so just cooking some stuff in it is worse imo. I just dont se the point.
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The only advantage I see is fast setup after hard reset if all the settings and tweaks are included in a ROM.
But many requests we have here are things for which there are no cabs, so maybe it is interesting not only to the cooks but also to the app developers (BS Tweak, Max Manilla, Touch X Icons etc...).
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I couldn't agree more. I don't "cook" myself, but I'm an avid taster
I would personally LOVE to see a ROM with nothing but the basics on there, along with a list of CABs, in order to install anything not included. That way, we can have a real lite version of the OS & GUI, and customize the software ourselves. I'm just after more space, and less of what I don't actually want!
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Agreed.
Would love to see an Ultra Lite ROM with everything that can be removed gone. In addition to this... cab files to put the removed stuff back if you wanted to.
What really annoys me with ROMs is when apps like google maps and Opera are cooked in.... These apps are always being updated so removing them from ROMs just makes sense!
Request
- Better touch screen accuracy.
- Better touch keyboard accuracy (like in iPhone)
- Close/Minimize buttons like in Windows 95/98/NT/XP/Vista/7
- Some kind of Windows 7 pined buttons at the bottom of screen, so you can always Maximize soft.
without copilot trial
auto power on/off on base of proximity sensor (or combination)
auto in call speaker on/off on base of proximity sensor (or other)
a lot more storage space, unbelievable now... 512mb rom standard, after initial setup there is only 178.11MB free to use???? So so soooooo wrong.... lol
working taskmanager @ top right corner, one which doesn't slow the device down!!!! showcase is no option, unresponsive and too big. One tap should be enough to display the running tasks..... (with the option to close them or switch to them)
fix the htc weather graphics of frost/snow (see attached pic for clarification ) --> only noticeable when you use hdwall for full screen wallpapers.
find a way to limit the number of sms to display when using threaded sms. It takes ages for the damn program to load the conversation. If for example it only loads like 20-30 sms, then there will be no problem i think. May b a button to show history (all?) --> may b better a suggestion to HTC, apparently they haven't tested with a large number of text messages. If they did...... SHAME ON YOU!
Hello all TD2 users. After trying countless roms, cabs, settings, tweaks and all, reading information about the hardware in the phone i really don't understand:
Why is the phone so slow?
What i mean:
1. The stock rom is a nightmare to use, it lags, all the fancy animations are actualy made for the HD2: 2x faster phone than our. Custom roms are better optimised but even than it's a choppy feeling.
2. The qualcomm 528mhz processor is not the slowest one, BUT, it cannot keep up with the software. Even overclocked to 710mhz, stable, the phone is not fluent by a long run.
3. The Adreno 130 GPU ? What actually does it do ? Is the Sence UI using the GPU, only the GPU or it's mixed ? Overclocking the Processor don't speed up the animations and the transition between tabs. So i guess the GPU is the only power you need to run the UI ?
4. If the GPU is slow, why actualy do HTC put a 800x480 screen. The WildFire has a resolution 3x smaller and a 2x faster GPU (adreno 200) and a better CPU too.
I really don't get it. Is it all software related, or the Diamond 2 is a total hardware and software mess, just put what we have to date (year 2009) and go for it.
Can someone inform me about some of the points. I have real interest in knowing the phone.
Thanks.
I never had issues on this device.
I agree the stock ROM is disastrous, but I have ran some cooked ROMs that performed quite well and never over clocked.
Also over clocking beyond a certain point will cause lags, as I'm sure you are aware. I thought it was around 648 where it starts.
A task killer is essential so you do not have too many apps running simultaneously.
Too many apps installed can degrade the speed as well.
I do not think it is necessarily hardware limitations.
A couple of pointers would be to either flash back to stock or perform a MTTY Task 29 in between flashing ROMs, soft reset occasionally to keep cache clear and do not install crucial apps to the SD card.
I completely agree with Bruce.
I never seen any performance issue with the device even when I was using the Stock ROM or my OWN Cooked Rom, which I feel much more better for my device.
- You will need to make sure you are not overloading apps that are keep running in background.
- Do use any good task manager. I USE and suggest ArkSwitch.
- Avoid Manila Mods that kill performance. Alway try to stick to simple Manila (like the default that comes with device/rom) .
- Avoid big wallpapers.
etc are some of the basic tips that I can suggest .
Thanks.
Actually the latest Rom from Prabhat, Photon 1.4 is showing me that the device can actually be faster than i thought. I just have one concern. I have enabled location settings in the manila panel, so i received the Weather forecast with animation and icon on the Clock.
Now the animation kills the home screen, it's choppy and with it the whole home tab. Even after setting up a wallpaper with no animation / weather or any other, only the fact that i have the weather icon on my Clock slows down the Home Tab.
I don't think that it's only me, seeing bad performance with the weather thing.
I actually needed to hard reset the phone, to have that animation and weather icon off. It's good that this isn't working directly with first boot up and you need to set it up (at least with me) so i can enjoy a seamless Home Tab navigation. Where is the point of having something designed for other, faster platform, working rather bad on our older Diamond 2 ?
some tips to make your device faster:
disable that crapy htc sence. it will save more than 50MB or ram. use instead that titanium, iphonetoday or simple plain today screen.
use mmAppLauncher, it will save you ~20MB of ram.
In total, at cold start you will have ~120MB free, after one day usage - about 110.
ofcourse, battery last longer.
stock 2.53.479.3 wwe rom
I have the same problem with the phone and have downloaded no apps or anything in the 12 months I've had it. Goes really slow, freezes frequently. Working my way through all these threads to try and figure out how to make the thing just work. Will be trying some of the suggestions above.
One thing that I have seen slow these phones down is excessive amounts of saved texts. You may want to clear as many as you can out and see if that helps.
I have the same problem .I've try all ROM's ,official and cooked,but nothing.After 2-3 days ,topaz need to be hard reseted.I try to do not install any apps and nothing maybe i increase the days to a week.I try also android but it's slow too.The only ROM that i like how it's working it's from O2 XDA,but it's with the old one htc sence and it's German.actually the only problem is the sence.
I've try all king of setting,regs and everything else.PLS help need-fast,stable and clean rom-only with sence
Hi , i am using topaz and it works pretty good , reinstall windows after 1moth use, but if you compare it with android its very slow , so try android if you want more speed
The only time when i Hard-reset is when i flash the new Energy Rom's.
They are not sluggish en work very well.
As NRGZ28 says:
I build my ROMs with four main goals.
Eye candy ( I want my ROM to look great and for it to all flow together nicely)
Speed !!!
Smoothness, consistency and good aesthetics
Stability through private beta testing before public release
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I have a new Diamond 2 and all good and fast response for me
Also I have also installed ArkSwitch as suggested above and this is a good task manager I think.
Using WM6.1 with a tweaked rom and no Manila its running fast enough for me.
I also installed Stop PushInternet for real to save another 9.5 MB of memory
Nice post. Thanks for the pointer.
I will check the registry of my ROM to see if I need that cab