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My battery loses 33% every night, it is switched off wih all of the phone, wifi, bluetooth switched off. Is this not a bit much to lose every night? Could this be a problem with my battery? Any help appreciated.
Thanks
Euan
Yes that's not right at all, I don't turn my phone radio off and still will only loose a few percent overnight. Are there any application left running, reminders or alarms that are waking the device up?
It might be more of an issue of the callibration of the battery monitor. Have you tried allowing a full discharge then a full recharge and see if that fixes what is reported, otherwise consider that you have a defective battery. Is it a new device or second hand?
this is an issue with Radio 1.08 and 1.09
As Gajet says check apps running in the background, the Camera app in my experience will drain your battery
I don't pay particular attention to what's running on the phone overnight now, other than I turn the wireless mode on so I don't get rung at 3am! Can't say I use the camera that much and upon looking at the phone in the morning, I'd be surprised if 5% has gone during the night.
I would certainly check that the cam app is closed before you leave it overnight. I presume nothing daft like Wi-Fi or a GPRS/3G connection is left running?
Cheers
Ant
EDIT - on the GPRS/3G note...do you leave the phone ON overnight and do you live on a GSM/3G signal boundary? I know that going back and forth into GSM/UTMS can cause battery drain as it's flipping between the two standards.
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this is an issue with Radio 1.08 and 1.09
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I am using radio version 1.09.00 but no battery power loss on mine.
1. Check if your previously used application(s) are not sitting in the ""Start->Settings->System(tab)->Memory->Running programs (tab)"" make sure there isn't any application sitting-down and sucking the battery power.
2. Check if your bluetooth is not continously on, bcs it really sucks the battery.
3. Check if your WiFi is not continously on, bcs this also drain the battery.
Also try "Spb Pocket Plus", this software has got a nice feature which close the application completely once you tap the "X" cross button.
Sidd
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/pocketplus/?en
Trying to figure out 1) cause of battery drain and 2) poor power mgmt.
I had a fully charged phone yesterday at 5pm, leaving work.
When I tried to turn it on this morning it was completely, completely drained.
I have 4min timeouts set on the phone for backlight off, and 5min for device off when on battery. I had WiFi tuned off, Bluetooth on.
I did have Wayfinder and GPS active on the way home, and may have just turned off the phone. If I turn off the phone with Wayfinder active, would this continue to drain the battery, GPS reception is passive, is it not ???
How come the battery drained to such an exent, it took 5 min on a charger before it would even power up, from a full reset and WM load.
My old XDA would hibernate at low battery percentage, and still have a reserve charge to keep the phone content/settings intact.
Any views, suggestions.
Peter
When I first got my x1 end of last year, I found I only got around 6 hours out of a battery.
Now I get about 36 hours of normal use out of one charge. Including 1 hour of gps each day/ half hour of wifi.
What worked for me was to, reduce back light time to 10 seconds when standalone. I also found S2U unlock drained the battery, so I now use the standard unlock.
Also, ensure that no auto updates (only manual) are done e.g SPB weather, insight RSS etc.
I have also changed my battery to a Mugen 1800 mAh. This seems to have increased my time by around 25% on average use.
S2U2 no longer drains my battery, one of the old versions did and so did the old version of AE Button but they are both good now, I get min of 2 days and max of about 5 depending on load of use... normal use is about 3... (internet for emails and dling rss feeds and some reading of forums 1 hour, reading books/texts about 4-5 hours and listening about 2hours plus calls and texts is a normal day for me...)
GPS does drain your battery pretty quick though...
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I did have Wayfinder and GPS active on the way home, and may have just turned off the phone. If I turn off the phone with Wayfinder active, would this continue to drain the battery, GPS reception is passive, is it not ???
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There is no poor power management in there.
It is all because of wayfinder. GPS is still active if you leave Wayfinder active all the time and it will drain the battery supoerfat.
Try closing Wayfinder and you will what I am talking about.
I found out that any Battery applications greatly reduces my (juridically - my wife's) X1i lifetime.
AFAIK to measure any battery charge you need to short circuit it for a millisecond or so and measure the current, not the voltage. When any Battery software does it (through the hardware) every few seconds your battery looses its charge faster.
sms2000 said:
I found out that any Battery applications greatly reduces my (juridically - my wife's) X1i lifetime.
AFAIK to measure any battery charge you need to short circuit it for a millisecond or so and measure the current, not the voltage. When any Battery software does it (through the hardware) every few seconds your battery looses its charge faster.
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I am running Home++ and its fairly decent as far as drain goes... I dont notice much more than when its not running...
Tks for all your feedback.
I am fairly ok with normal use and battery life.
In this particular instance the drain happened so fast, overnight, and I was not using the X1 at all. (or so I thought so).
So I am curious to know what caused the rapid drain, and why the X1 does not have a more controlled low power close down.
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Tks for all your feedback.
I am fairly ok with normal use and battery life.
In this particular instance the drain happened so fast, overnight, and I was not using the X1 at all. (or so I thought so).
So I am curious to know what caused the rapid drain, and why the X1 does not have a more controlled low power close down.
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I have already explained. It was the GPS application that drained the battery, nothing else.
Just as a test try leaving it for as few hours running again and you will see.
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I do have the same effect. but I do not use GPS or wifi at all.
Sometimes it put the phone down, screen disabled and fully charged. No application running.
Next morning the battery is dead.
It happens about once every two weeks without any sign why...
My solution: I bought a desktop charger which is able to charge a second battery and simply exchange it, when this happens again.
Not ideal - but right now we seem to have to life with it.
do you have an old version of S2U2 or AE Button plus on your phone? And I have also read that batti used to cause drain problems... this might be the case with yours(?) if you have none of these installed then I am of not much help...
If u use Push email or active sync, Google sync Hotmail sync any Email sync on arrivel option ur battery will only last 5hours cause the phone is using mobile web at all times and constantly sending and recieving, turn it off an ur phone will last over 19hours with out charge... EG i turned my email sync off at 10am an the batt level was 60% didnt charge it till next day 11am when the batt levels drop to 20%
Is your X1 fairly new?
I experienced exactly this issue about a week after I bought my X1. No apparent reason for it, but the battery just drained right out overnight.
Strangely, the same thing happend about a week after I bought a HTC Touch Pro.
In both instances it has happened only the one time. Since then things have been normal, or drains caused by known software issues (like the buggy version of S2U2).
As earlier suggested, I loaded the Wayfinder app, with its GPS active.
I tuned off the phone when the app was on screen.
Left it for 3 hours, and there was a noticeable drain of the battery.
Lets hope the new WM 6.5 improves Power Mgmt, and has a more elegant low power handling.
Do you have G-Alarm installed? My Battery gets drained very fast when I have this installed. I tried many different versions within the last few month, allways the same.
I experienced this last night for the first time with my X1. I left the X1 on the bedside table at 11:30 with 90% charge and was awakened by the battery low alarm at 6:30 am (not good).
The only thing that I noticed that was unusual was that my X1 had been connected to the PC with ActiveSync in the connected state. I shut down the PC and then unplugged the X1. In the morning after the battery low alarm I noticed that the phone thought it was still connected. I use SPB Phone Suite and it was still showing the Cradle profile. This would not change in the automatic mode so I had to reboot the phone. Everything has been fine since.
So ... I am wondering if ActiveSync can sometimes go crazy and drain the battery more quickly??
I have a faster draining battery since i installed g-alarm. can anyone confirm that?
In my case I dont have G-Alarm installed.
Well my battery is not draining that seriously. it's ok i guess.
But maybe you should try what is suggested in the last post of this thread:
http://www.xperiax1.net/forum/x1-problems-issues/2113-another-kind-battery-drain.html
Deep discharge my X1-battery just almost doubled my battery life in average
Seafal said:
I have a faster draining battery since i installed g-alarm. can anyone confirm that?
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I have been using G-Alarm since the very moment I got my X1 and there is no noticeable battery drain. Lasts 3-4days.
Hi guys,
I have a problem with my Jade. I've charged it last evening and I've barely used it. When I've went to bed it was 96% charged (ARIELbattery) and 10 minutes used.
This morning, when I've woke up, The battery was 33% and and the phone was 34 minutes usage time.
Something is wrong. Since there were no bluetooth, no wifi, no anything activated. And for sure, nobody played with the phone during the night.
This is not the first time when I see this behavior, but is the first time when the decrease is so big.
I suspect an app, but I do not know which of them. How can I see it?
Do you have other suggestions?
thanks!
There are some possible reasons:
Some SD-Cards seem to drain battery, so you can take it out for a test.
Some additional software is told to drain battery. Did you install something?
It is also helpful to switch to "flight-mode" over night. This normally reduces battery drain to nearly zero, if no additional consumers exist.
Hi,
Yes I've installed some software, like gAlarm, S2U2, icontact,ThumbCal, Skype, etc but last night none of them was started.
What can I do with the SD Card?! I need the SD-Card. Which card does not drain battery and which does?
I cannot turn off the phone over night.
Some clues here in this forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=514556&highlight=battery
I've read those before posting, but there was no answer to my problem. I have 67% drop of battery in 8 hours without touching the phone.
This is most likely that your device goes to screenoff or unattended power state instead of sleep. Your power settings might be corrupted. To change that go to your power settings advanced tab and change everything there (checkboxes and sliders), press ok and then change them back as they were, press ok. I'd suggest to keep the device turning off in one minute while on battery and none of the checkboxes for cord powered mode. There is a really freaky thing that even if you get your device to sleep with power button it will go back to screenoff mode after time specified by the turn off device slider while on battery IF you don't have that turn-off-while-on-battery checkbox checked there.
darfri said:
even if you get your device to sleep with power button it will go back to screenoff mode after time specified by the turn off device slider while on battery IF you don't have that turn-off-while-on-battery checkbox checked there.
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Thanks for the answer. But I do not really understand what you are saying here.
My power settings are: 30sec for Screen Light and 1 min for Device (on battery).
None of the check boxes is set for the case when the device is powered.
It could also be due to the battery defect. After some time the battery could lose its storage ability (because of the defect), despite the mAH stated.
As a comparison, my battery is nearly one year old. On full charge, overnight drawdown (on sleep mode) is about 2%-3% .
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Hi,
Yes I've installed some software, like gAlarm, S2U2, icontact,ThumbCal, Skype, etc but last night none of them was started.
What can I do with the SD Card?! I need the SD-Card. Which card does not drain battery and which does?
I cannot turn off the phone over night.
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I have no own experiences with this programs but Skype for example needs permanent connection to internet when activated (be care of the background job!). This uses data connection and this drains battery. I can not quantify this in %. In addition Skype does not allow the system to switch to deep sleep because it needs permanent connection!
None of the app was started. I just have Skype installed, but it was not used.
Uninstall S2U2 !!!!!
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Uninstall S2U2 !!!!!
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I found some German threads that discuss a problem with this software and battery life. Some loose 10% over night others 50%. I think you should try to uninstall (and afterwards soft-reset!) for a night and see what happens.
Please keep us informed.
First of all, I've disabled the 3G. Now it only gsm with gprs. Since I've done this it seems the battery drop is ... super ok. If yesterday morning I've had 33%, this morning I've had 20%, so 13% drop in 24h, and the phone was used normally as before.
last night the S2U2 was not started.
I will wait until the battery level reaches 10% an I will do a full charge.
I will keep you informed. Thanks to all for advices!
Some clues here too ...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=471365&highlight=battery+3g&page=2
Hi,
So now, 2 weeks later... after setting my Jade to GSM only (no 3G) I get 7-8 days of normal usage. As I said, before I always had to charge it the third day.
Normally, i get -28mAh drain in standby. When the screen is on around -130mAh (for wake up) and then -70mAh. In a gsm call i get around -250mAh.
I did not switch the phone back to 3G yet, but I will and I will see again the battery drain.
PS: the values were provided by Mobadi.
i believe i have S2U2 installed... and my phones fine!
i have the overloaded rom... and battery life seems great only needs charging every 3 or so days and i do use it quite alot!
so...
after some time of testing and re-testing I still have, from time to time, the behavior that during night I see a massive drop in battery level and an increase of the usage time.
I do not know what is going on, but I suspect that some app is waking up the device to do some work (without turning on the screen), and the Jade cannot go to sleep anymore for a while.
I've notice the same behavior on a HTC Diamond 2.
Since none of the app I have installed on my Jade are installed on my friends Diamond2, I have no idea what app could do that.
If anybody has any idea, feel free .... I am idea-less!
I've made myself a little application to log the current values of the power data. So, I've saw that my phone wakes up each hour by himself, without turning on the screen, does some work (cca -70mA) and after 30sec goes back to sleep.
Any ideea about this?
Hi,
I experience since 2-3 days that the battery goes "kamikaze" during the night: for example, yesterday evening it was at 72%, this morning was at 34% !! What is eating the battery in standby ?? I have certainly no "automatic" data connections, bluetooth and wifi were surely off for the night. I suspect that the device wakes up for whatever reason and doing some "housekeeping" stuff maybe, but does it have to cost so much power ?
The strange thing is, yesterday I made some short phonecalles, connecting to Wifi etc, and it went from 100% to 72% until the evening.
Any ideas, anyone ?
Have you schedulled anything to happen overnight. For example I've set mine to sync with MS My Phone at 6am every morning - this obviously drains the battery. Otherwise do you leave applications running in the background - double check task manager when you wake up after the drainage.
I have just logged on to see if anyone else has started getting this.
I've had the phone a couple of weeks now and for the last few nights it has eaten battery over night.
All I have scheduled is to turn off the bluetooth overnight to save battery lol that failed.
I'm using G-Profile and G-Alarm, that is all I have added recently.
Anyone know if these would use the battery.
Like said above I don't use up battery in the day so what happens overnight
Got my HD2 yesterday. Same problem here with original T-Mobile ROM (DE).
on standby my battery hardly goes down a bean, sync is set to every hour.. you must have something running..???
I also experience battery drain overnight.
I load it up to 100% at 10:00 PM and when I check in the morning I have around 67% left.
No Connections are on except GSM(EDGE), No Tasks are visible in the standard taskmanager.
Surprisingly that doesn't happen every night. Sometimes I have 92% left in the morning. The other day again 67%-62%. Very weird. I really can't say why that happens.
descb600f said:
I have just logged on to see if anyone else has started getting this.
I've had the phone a couple of weeks now and for the last few nights it has eaten battery over night.
All I have scheduled is to turn off the bluetooth overnight to save battery lol that failed.
I'm using G-Profile and G-Alarm, that is all I have added recently.
Anyone know if these would use the battery.
Like said above I don't use up battery in the day so what happens overnight
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For me definetly G-Alarm is causing the problem. If G-Alarm isn't running, battery doesn't drain that quick. Maybe it's caused by the hardware-acceleration option you can choose at installation time.
Would be nice if somebody could confirm it.
Try this : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=478519
My HD2 eats a lot of battery here in France, with official HTC French rom...
Edge and HSDPA were attached to network every time, without automatic disconnexion... and i saved a lot of battery with this soft...
Mine is a French too (Orange).
But it still lost 10% every night, yesterday I'd try to use the flight mode. But I've the same problem.
Toonight, I'll try to desactivate the hardware-acceleration into G alarm..
gauner1986 said:
For me definetly G-Alarm is causing the problem. If G-Alarm isn't running, battery doesn't drain that quick. Maybe it's caused by the hardware-acceleration option you can choose at installation time.
Would be nice if somebody could confirm it.
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I'm using G-Alarm too. Hardware acceleration disabled. G-Alarm isn't running at night.
I tried to disable the location thing. I think it will use GPS to locate my position frequently which needs a lot of power.
You're right !
The GPS weather uses lot of battery, i disabled it also...
DennisMoore said:
I also experience battery drain overnight.
I load it up to 100% at 10:00 PM and when I check in the morning I have around 67% left.
No Connections are on except GSM(EDGE), No Tasks are visible in the standard taskmanager.
Surprisingly that doesn't happen every night. Sometimes I have 92% left in the morning. The other day again 67%-62%. Very weird. I really can't say why that happens.
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I had the same weird behaviour here
luminouche said:
You're right !
The GPS weather uses lot of battery, i disabled it also...
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tu fais comment pour stopper le GPS weather ?
How do you to stop that GPS weather service?
jrrigney said:
Have you schedulled anything to happen overnight. For example I've set mine to sync with MS My Phone at 6am every morning - this obviously drains the battery. Otherwise do you leave applications running in the background - double check task manager when you wake up after the drainage.
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Thanks for replying, I have no sync or other schedule actions active. I need to see about the GPS weather service, no idea how to disable it ( whenever it's active on mine).
There are hardly any applications running when I switch to standby in the evening - my task manager closes every application when I tap the "X" button. I would also see any open apps on the taskbar.
I have one suspect though: I am using Manila AND SPB Mobile shell also, so that one is certainly open in the backround. But IMHO it shouldn't have an effect in standby ?? anyway, this evening I will make a test without SPB running.
DinoZ1 said:
tu fais comment pour stopper le GPS weather ?
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Démarrer -> Paramètres -> Localisations
Goto Settings > Location > Switch Location off
Don't forget to set the switch on the bottom to deaktivate location service in all htc apps.
This helped me. No more battery drain.
DinoZ1 said:
tu fais comment pour stopper le GPS weather ?
How do you to stop that GPS weather service?
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THis has been talked about before - the weather does NOT use GPS.
I and many others have not disabled any feature, and only lose around 2-3% overnight. You need to look at what you have installed or what tweeks you have applied.
I figured it out... In my case it was the update of stocks which I never use, but it was set to update in every 30 minutes !! Since disabling it I have no drain, battery consumption during the night is 5-6 % which looks normal.
jarbi said:
I figured it out... In my case it was the update of stocks which I never use, but it was set to update in every 30 minutes !! Since disabling it I have no drain, battery consumption during the night is 5-6 % which looks normal.
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I just find out that I had the same 30 min update of stocks,... will see if the battery drains still "too much"
Disable Quick-GPS and Location Services.
as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
leobox1 said:
as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
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Hey Leobox,
There could be a plenty of factors involved:
1. Constant use of GPRS to update weather.
2. Some SD cards use up the battery.
3. Make sure that your internet connection is not on generally
4. Finally, use BSB tweaks for power management.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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jlingo said:
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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as mentioned in my previous post.. the battery of HD2 seems to be ok.. a fren who is a power user has it.. generally this is what he does:
Full charge in the morning
Day use:
Approx 90-100 mins of call
15-20 mins of browsin
30 odd mins of music play
150 odd daily messages
15-20 mins of push mail
from 100% at about 8AM in the morning to about 25% in the evening at about 11PM.
I think thats pretty good
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
leobox1 said:
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
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Thats the culprit
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
with regard to data connection. do we have to manually turn it off in the settings page or is there a way to make it turn itself off when its idle.
what ROM are you on?
I was originally on 1.48 ROM and had pretty bad battery drain problems too.
Most i got was about 1 day on average usage (couple calls and texts with browsing and slight GPS)
But i upgraded to 1.61 and i can honestly get 2-3 days now, no joke!
On hard usage about 1.5 days, but its still much better than before.
So if u want u can try upgrading to 1.61 and see how that works out for you
After struggling with the battery life for last 10 days I figured the real culprit to be the SD card. from day 1 I had 4GB SD card and the response was always slow while browsing the storage card or using Music and Photo tabs in SENSE.
I replaced the SD card yesterday night with original 2 GB card. I had 54 percent yesterday night and after 16 Hours I am still at 33 percent. (even with 25 mins call and some use of phone).
Seems the problem is resolved. Hope this helps to all who have battery problem.
leobox1 said:
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
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You are correct- a data connection turned on but not exchanging data uses minimal power as it's simply part of the GSM/3G service. However, if it is on, then some programs can use the connection for active data transfer which will use some power.
If you stick with GSM, rather than 3G, the battery hit is even less. Most battery usage when 3G is on results from the hunting between protocols when the 3G signal level is poor, though a good 3G connection uses less power than a stable GSM connection.
yes been thinking about updating the ROM. im on the o2 1.43 rom.
I still dont get the data connection though. even if i manually turn it off, something turns it back on i pressume its Twitter or weather. but why does it not disconnect itself afterwards?
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
I'm using 1.48 ROM. It only lasts about a day .
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i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
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I also have a Omina II, and whilst I appreciate it has a larger capacity battery and only 800mhz processor, I could listen to the fm radio for an hour and the battery would drop 1% Max. The omina does throttle down the processor for less demanding apps.
I had problem with G-Alarm. When in standby the HD2 use only 4-5mA in GSM/GPRS (no 3G) but when opening and closing G-Alarm, the HD2 was using in standby 80mA average.
I found that overnight it was discharging my battery around 40% (from 89% to 45% in 7hours). Then after disinstalling it I come back to normal discharge rate of around 4% overnight.
I think that G-Alarm and maybe some other softwares are not fully compatibles with the HD2 and after you open it (and close it with task manager, so not still open in background) there is a bug that let the HD2 not fully in standby, also if the screen stay off. In this situation the processor is still active and drain the battery faster. The only way to recover from this, is with softreset.
Perhaps apart from network usage / 3G / wifi / microSD etc. there are some programs developed for previous WM devices that are not 100% compatibles with HD2 and don't fully put on standby the device after you used it (also if closed with task manager) draining faster the battery.
Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
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Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
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I tried the 2.3 version. When I was testing it, when closing it, it was not dispaying on task manager also for me, but after that the battery was draining quicker during standby. After I disinstalled it, the draining of battery during standby comeback to normal (4-5mA).
I use battery log to check battery draining.
It's a very powerful smartphone folks, my battery barely lasts a day either. I have to charge my HD2 every 20 hours-or-so. Stop comparing the battery drain on this handset to an old phone you just used for texting and making calls! Every smartphone I've owned drained the battery within a day if I actually used it for more than calls and texting. If you turn the data connection off and turn the 3G to GSM, you will experience much longer battery life....but then you won't be using the phone for anything much will you?