When I go online and check my e-mails it does not close down the connection when I log off. How do I set my XDA 11 to do this?
Hold down the red button for a few seconds and it will kill it.
Gordon
I too wondered this, but came to the conclusion there is no way currently of getting a program to close its connection afterwards.
This doesn't bother me as much for the price of the connection as if you're just online checking mail etc, it won't cost much as it's per mb. However, I noticed when I left the connection on and was making calls etc, the battery decreases significantly faster than if it weren't connected to GPRS.
Has anyone found a program that monitors connections and disconnects them after so much inactivity? Does SPB GPRS Monitor do this, if so please tell me how cos I've already got it!
Cheers
Anthony
This is becoming a problem and im dreading my phone bill when it comes through. If someone sends me an MMS the phone auto connects to GPRS and downloads the image. Not a problem there, the problem is that after downloading the image the connection doesnt disconnect. Now unless i remember to disconnect it, it stays connected running up my bill. The same goes for when i send an image it connects but wont disconnect after it sents. I would have thought this would have been a standard option as it is with normal phones. I cant always remember to manually disconnect the GPRS everytime. Anyone got any info on this please?
Either hold down the "End call" button for a few seconds to disconnect or tap the icon and choose disconnect. Shouldn't worry though as the beauty of GPRS is you only pay for data transfer, not to be connected.
You can leave it connected 24x7 with no charge, you only pay when you transfer data. I used to be abit unsure about this when I got my first GPRS phone about 5 years ago - rang O2 and they confirmed it.
You can leave it connected 24x7 with no charge, you only pay when you transfer data. I used to be abit unsure about this when I got my first GPRS phone about 5 years ago - rang O2 and they confirmed it.
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Good to know - thanks for the info :wink:
hey, thanks for that info, i managed to talk to O2 and they confirmed that you dont get charged for having GPRS on unless you use it. Thanks again.
You can also try this great freeware utility that lets you set automatic disconnect timeouts for GPRS:
GB-SOFT GPRS & Audio Tweak
http://www.gb-soft.cz/XDAII/product_gprs_tweak_wm5pe_en.htm
Title says it all. My data connection takes aprox. 2 minutes to connect and then it disconnects immediately after being used. When I was using the previous version of TouchIT the data connection would connect and then work all the time (if it was disconnecting in the background then it was connecting quick enough for me to not notice).
Bottom line, I want my quick connecting/always connected data connection.
I have unlimited data so Im not worried about data fees.
How much of an effect would it have on battery life to keep it on all the time?
I recently had a weekend in the UK on holiday and to make sure I did not get charged a fortune for roaming connection charges, I made certain that every time I used the phone online I had a good connection to the hotel's wifi hotspot.
I've just received a bill for nearly £100 for 18mb roaming, and nearly had a heart attack since I should not have been using any roaming services!!
Anyone know how this could have happened? As I said, I made absolutely certain that every time I was using the internet I was successfully connected to the wifi hotspot, so I don't understand how this can have happened but I'm furious about it.
Not to mention that the thieves have charged me £6/mb for a crappy GPRS connection!!
Thanks guys.
What also really annoys me about this is that I even tried to setup SPB's data monitor app beforehand as a precaution but it would not register any data traffic even though I set up the tariffs with all the necessary info.
Hotel WiFi isn't free - usually £5 an hour or something extortionate like that...
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Hotel WiFi isn't free - usually £5 an hour or something extortionate like that...
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But that wouldn't end up on his phone bill, it'd be on his hotel bill.
True, just stating
Might be down to others apps using it perhaps...
Your right that wouldn't end up as part of the phone bill, However the following items will
Weather updates
Email syncronisation (possibly automated)
MyPhone (or any other "Cloud") backups
RSS Feeds
We're any of these enabled? Unfortunatly I am unaware of any way to turn off DataConnection without the above having the ability to automatically turn it back on. For that reason I will never take my phone (and leave it on) overseas.
Will that 'NoData' app not work for disabling anything over gprs/3g on the HD2?
And I'd like to echo the above - chances are it was an app on your phone downloading data in the background.
Unlucky mate - hope you can dispute it.
Thanks for that, but yes it was definitely free at this one (actually a B&B rather than a hotel as such). The bill I'm talking about is the monthly carrier bill for my HD2, NOT my hotel bill.
The problem is that the HD2 has basically been using my normal data connection but was showing as using wifi at the time.
I switched off all auto updates to prevent this too. The periods where I've been charged are for like an hour or so when I've been browsing the web in the evening.
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Thanks for that, but yes it was definitely free at this one (actually a B&B rather than a hotel as such). The bill I'm talking about is the monthly carrier bill for my HD2, NOT my hotel bill.
The problem is that the HD2 has basically been using my normal data connection but was showing as using wifi at the time.
I switched off all auto updates to prevent this too. The periods where I've been charged are for like an hour or so when I've been browsing the web in the evening.
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Not that i want to make this sound obvious but, are you sure you was connected to the WiFi network. Just turning on your WiFi does not mean you are connected to the network, as most have Network Keys to grant access (or public guest passwords), you don't normally allow any old Joe Blogg onto the network.
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Not that i want to make this sound obvious but, are you sure you was connected to the WiFi network. Just turning on your WiFi does not mean you are connected to the network, as most have Network Keys to grant access (or public guest passwords), you don't normally allow any old Joe Blogg onto the network.
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a little extra note to this is that many public wifi spots actually let you connect, and only then ask you for user info, so the phone looks like it is connected, when in fact there is no gateway out past the first landing page.
i had this problem with my old htc kaiser ( i had turned off all data connection apart from wifi) and it would still try and connect to a 3g network. when i returned from the states to the UK my bill was over £300!! i complained to t-mobile and they thankfully cancelled the bill!!
good luck.
Applications may well (and do) connect to the internet over 3G even when you have Wi-Fi connected and operational. That is simply how WM works.
There are various solutions out there to fix this problem, both manually turning cellular data connections off as well as those that automatically turn them off when you are roaming. I know one of the latter ones is on Marketplace.
valid point guys but yeah it had a full wifi connection and a valid wep key.
if I could get gprs monitor (our whatever its called) to work then I could try to reproduce the fault st home but it never registers any data use when I try it. are there any other apps that can monitor my phones data traffic?
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Applications may well (and do) connect to the internet over 3G even when you have Wi-Fi connected and operational. That is simply how WM works.
There are various solutions out there to fix this problem, both manually turning cellular data connections off as well as those that automatically turn them off when you are roaming. I know one of the latter ones is on Marketplace.
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Thanks - I did see that one of the auto updates had gone ahead anyway using the data connection as it showed a connection to a server but it was for a very brief instant.
The big amounts of time/data however are purely down to browsing though. And that's my issue here. How can it be using the normal GPRS data connection for browsing even though it has a stable, fully open, free wifi connection? Have I got a setting wrong somewhere perhaps?
My guess would be that the hotel internet link was down. You would still connect to the wifi network but it would fail to route traffic. tcp/ip was designed to work for US military to handle parts of network getting nuked so it seamlessly (and transparently) uses the next best link. I did think the HD2 asked before connecting when roaming tho. To be safe go to comm manager and switch off data connection before browsing next time and watch it doesnt come back on again.
I suppose that's an idea that they may have had a problem with their network BUT I've just tried a test at home.
I'm connected perfectly to my home wifi network with a strong signal, but my phone refuses to do any data stuff like go online, basically because my normal data connection has failed (it does this maybe once a day). This means that even though it is showing as being fully connected to wifi, it isn't actually doing anything with the wifi network and is still trying to do all data traffic including browsing through my GPRS connection instead!
How can this be happening?!
Incidentally I got a reply from HTC about this. It was VERY apologetic - which to me suggests that they know there is a fault. You don't apologise unless you're at fault for something after all!
They sent me some HTC app that they said I need on the phone to prevent this happening in future, which seems like an admission of blame to me, but I know I'll never get the £100 in roaming charges back from them even though it appears to be their fault after I've taken reasonable steps as a consumer to ensure I wouldn't get charged.
Very unhappy about this.
Data connection woes
I have a similar problem - skyfire or opera will not connect using wifi when data connection is disabled - both in settings and individually using "nodata" app.
Does anyone have an idea of how to force use of wifi and restrict to wifi use?
Thanks,
Ehud
I am very interested in hearing more about this. If you ever find out what caused this problem, please let us know in this thread or drop me a pm. In a couple of weeks I'm off to the States for a holiday and I have read enough stories here on the forum to actually think twice about taking my phone with me.
personally i would have manually turned off the the phone connection under Wireless Controls and just turned on the Wi-fi on the phone.. that way it cant possibly use GPRS as essentially it is in a semi "Flight" mode..
those BT 'clouds' (think thats what they call them) charge to your phone bill, when I phoned up to change my price plan I was told if I didn't have mobile internet addon using wifi through these will incur charges
Don't worry - use "no data"
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I am very interested in hearing more about this. If you ever find out what caused this problem, please let us know in this thread or drop me a pm. In a couple of weeks I'm off to the States for a holiday and I have read enough stories here on the forum to actually think twice about taking my phone with me.
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I've used my XDA's around the world for years without a problem
In the UK I've got bundled unlimited data - so data is always enabled.
The first thing I do when putting my HD2 into flight mode on the aircraft is to run no-data. most cooked roms include it - but if not just download the cab.
"no data" allows you to toggle your cell operator based data connections - to off. Which has worked flawlessly for me in the US, Europe and far-east. On your return to home just toggle the settings back on.
The alternative is to go into comm manager and turn the phone off - but whats the point of that? You won't even be able to receive texts. I like to be able to receive calls and texts, but with the security of not running up extortionate data bills.
As an aside - if only all operators would allow you to set a strict (low) limit on data charges for roaming.
Ok so my Hero is rooted, running Fresh currently. I'm not sure if this is a ROM issue or a phone issue, but I do know it's not a computer issue as it happens on 3 computers in the house.
When I'm tethered, after an unspecified amount of time (anywhere from 30 seconds to hours) the connection 'locks up'. I'm not sure what is actually happening, but I stop getting any data on the computer (Or laptop or netbook) and the data indicator on the phone gets the up arrow (The left one) stuck "on" and the other arrow stuck "off". The only thing that fixes it is to reboot the phone or disable/re-enable mobile network, after which the cycle repeats itself.
It does this whether I am tethered via USB (I use PDAnet) or wifi tether (Wireles Tether for Root users).
It's driving me crazy, because our cable internet shorted out or something and the techs can't come repair the line until next week (This happened last week) so my Hero is my only internet access point.
Anyone know what's going on or how to fix it?
Edit: It seems to happen more when I'm downloading large files...hours of casual browsing of text-based sites don't trigger it as often, but YouTube or downloading podcasts for my classes seem to make it happen more often. This seems relevant, though I'm not sure how.
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Ok so my Hero is rooted, running Fresh currently. I'm not sure if this is a ROM issue or a phone issue, but I do know it's not a computer issue as it happens on 3 computers in the house.
When I'm tethered, after an unspecified amount of time (anywhere from 30 seconds to hours) the connection 'locks up'. I'm not sure what is actually happening, but I stop getting any data on the computer (Or laptop or netbook) and the data indicator on the phone gets the up arrow (The left one) stuck "on" and the other arrow stuck "off". The only thing that fixes it is to reboot the phone or disable/re-enable mobile network, after which the cycle repeats itself.
It does this whether I am tethered via USB (I use PDAnet) or wifi tether (Wireles Tether for Root users).
It's driving me crazy, because our cable internet shorted out or something and the techs can't come repair the line until next week (This happened last week) so my Hero is my only internet access point.
Anyone know what's going on or how to fix it?
Edit: It seems to happen more when I'm downloading large files...hours of casual browsing of text-based sites don't trigger it as often, but YouTube or downloading podcasts for my classes seem to make it happen more often. This seems relevant, though I'm not sure how.
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hey buddy.
i cant answer definitivly, but i have had the same issue with PDANET and EasyTether (not wireless, but i dont use it much) so i hope my crazy theory can help...
this is probably far fetchd, but i hope you can appreciate it all the same. as we know, tmobile stripped down all the tethering apps from the market (not really sure how pdanet or easytether or barnicles survived this) and it started a big war with consumers versus providers, even resulted in a petition app being distributed through the market.
my wild theory is this: even though we're paying for unlimited data, i have a feeling sprint still watches this and throws a cap on at some point. i have no doubt in my mind that they watch these forums and know EXACTLY what we do, and take every precaution to ensure we dont take advantage of it. i think at this point, this late in the game, their easily able to tell when we're surfing phones versus tethering and using "mass amounts of data" (when compared to surfing the phone) and therefor put a quick stopper on their leaky bottle.
any other suggestions? ive just never seen it answered before, and was forced to reach my own conclusion, but hey! maybe some people live off their phones internet and have never had any issues (but how much data have you REALLY used in one session?) so this might just be as crazy as it sounds.
hope i helped!
tether
I tether my phone at the office daily it powers my office network with a speed little under dsl. best way to decribe the speed im getting is that of Dual ISDN. Your problem is definitely a power draw problem, after installing the rom that i wanted and i started tethering, i noticed that my phone will freeze up and the 3g speed will slow down to a crawl, at the time i was powering 6 computers on my tether with internet. to overcome this problem i needed to use the AC adapter that came with the phone to power it and i used a cpu management program (i forgot the name lol) to keep the mhz at 528 when the phone goes into standby that way your phone can handle the packets that are coming in and handle the dispersement of those packets to the computers on the tether while it goes into standby.
after that i never had a problem, like the guy said above, sprint will cap that ass if they see any shanagins goings on. I usually get away with about 4 hours of continious net time before sprint kills my data and i gotta restart the phone or go into airplane mode and come out of it. The data involved amounted to about 2 gigs of data before they booted me.
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When I'm tethered, after an unspecified amount of time (anywhere from 30 seconds to hours) the connection 'locks up'. I'm not sure what is actually happening, but I stop getting any data on the computer (Or laptop or netbook) and the data indicator on the phone gets the up arrow (The left one) stuck "on" and the other arrow stuck "off". The only thing that fixes it is to reboot the phone or disable/re-enable mobile network, after which the cycle repeats itself.
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The exact same thing happens on the Samsung Moment. The workaround we figured out was to use SetCPU to force the CPU down to 266 when tethering. It sounds strange but it worked!
Perhaps this will work on the Hero??