Hello.
I'm absolutely thrilled by the G1 and Android's open source capabilities. Now I wonder why I should buy this smartphone with an expensive carrier plan when I simply can get it as a developer version with a nicer design, no T-Mobile branding and a wider functionality. It's also unlocked and about 50€ cheaper when I buy the developer phone instead so that I can use my HSDPA flatrate with it and enjoy all the benefits for just a fraction of the money for a carrier phone. So are there any negative aspects of a developer phone or even restrictions?
In the first place I want to simply use it as my main mobile phone and working device but I also intend to develop private applications for it.
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Really the only difference between a developer phone and a modded standard phone is the art.
You can easily unlock a standard phone with one simple call, free of charge. The rest (Dev SPL [although HardSPL is 20x better], and ADP firmware ect) are all flashable, and can be used at any time you'd like.
That sounds good. So I think I will take the opportunity and buy the dev phone as I see no advantage from a regular one.
If I order from a European country, will the phone be delivered from overseas or do they have some kind of local stock? Is there anything else I should know before buying a developer phone? Is there a shorter guarantee and service period if there is any at all? Who will repair it if it's broken (HTC I guess)?
The dev phone is only available to certain countries so it depends on your country. Plus you have to register as a dev ($10 I believe).
It's available here in Germany but I heard it will ship from the USA which costs a lot of additional taxes. Do I lose my guarantee when flashing a regular phone?
Disadvantage of the developer phone, being afraid of messing up the nice unique back graphic.
I have a developer's phone, my friend has a G1. Honestly, the G1 looks like a toy compared to the dev-1. Whereas I've got rubberized grip all over the phone, his is that hard white acrylic. It doesn't look anywhere near as sweet, my friend and I both agree.
the shipping will kill u definitely, so if you plan to ship it overseas, please think it twice and order a regular G1 instead
and for being a developer you have to pay $25 on front
The shipping costs are cheaper than they were in the beginning (at about 45$ now and they were 180$). Thanks to the weak dollar rate the dev phone is cheaper than any G1 here which you can only get with a contract anyway for about twice the price. An unlocked G1 from suspicious third party sellers costs about as much as the dev phone even with the added shipping fees and 100% guaranteed tax and transfer additions from UPS at the customs office.
That's my first post so hallo everybody!
I bought my dev phone being in Poland. I found one guy who fortunately was in US that time and he brought me my beauty I had to register in Android Market, pay 25$ plus phone and transport costs, so in total it was 500$ I think its not so bad considering that it was Christmas time.
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Well, as much as I love the handset itself I'm just not computer savvy enough to make Android do what I want it to. So I thought I'd offer it up here to try and save some money for listing fees before putting it on eBay. As of today I've had it for 1 week. Absolutely no scratches or damage and still has factory plastic cover on the screen. It's currently running modded RC30 v 1.31 with Carbon Glow theme. Comes with original box, instructions, 2 Gb micro SD card, and everything that came from the factory. My price is firm @ $400 USD SHIPPED. Will ship anywhere worldwide *except Africa*. I generally use USPS Priority Mail with insurance. I requested the SIM unlock code from T-Mo about 3 days ago so I expect that to show up any day now. Please reply via PM or email me at [email protected]. Thanks for looking.
*pics were taken several days ago prior to installing new theme*
Check my eBay feedback:
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...boids&ftab=AllFeedback&sspagename=STRK:ME:UFS
You might want to lower your price. I bought one off CL almost new with a extra battery, case, box etc for $225. They seem to go for under $300 new.
I'm very well aware of what they're going for on craigslist. My ad is aimed more for those overseas that don't have such easy access to them.
**Mods feel free to lock this thread. I'd prefer private contact if any**
you can get it from ebay, worldwide shipping for less...
http://cgi.ebay.com/LEGALLY-UNLOCKE...3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66:2|65:3|39:1|240:1307
Stop trying to cheat people and make a fair price.
A brand new Android Dev Phone 1 is only $399 new.
Regards,
Dave
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A brand new Android Dev Phone 1 is only $399 new.
Regards,
Dave
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Stop giving the guy hell on his price. Try to order an ADP1 and set the shipping to Germany and see what happens to the price - It goes over 750USD. Let the free market determine the price.
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Stop giving the guy hell on his price.
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Let the free market determine the price.
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Considering that the OP has firmly set his price, aren't those two statements contradictory? (Note, I don't really mind OP's choice of pricing, just pointing out this funny logical flaw.)
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i just got one.....black....1 week old unused unwanted upgrade for £230 of ebay here in the u.k
i wish you all the best with selling your G1
sorry i can't lock the thread...if i close the thread...it will drop of the radar...and nobody will see it
I'm not trying to "cheat" anyone. There's nothing dishonest or misleading about my ad. I know for a fact that with my willingness to ship worldwide I will easily get my asking price if I choose to put it on ebay. I simply thought I'd offer it up here first. Clearly, that was a poor decision on my part.
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Considering the tone of some replies..that's exactly what I was hoping for. I'll simply take this as a lesson learned about this community and take my business elsewhere. Then there will be no need for further editorialization about my character or intentions.
Thank you to those of you with cooler heads that chose not to be a **** about it.
Honestly I think the problem is that you are asking full market value for something that is opened and without warranty.
Think about it, why would you buy a stereo from some guy off the street even if he was a friend of a friend, if you could get it for the same price from the company which not only guarantee's it but offers 30 day return policy and a manufactures warranty?
Honestly I have no problem with you selling it here, it isn't against the rules. But I think asking 400 for the phone is steep especially considering this is the market where we know what it is worth and how to find them.
I don't see what I'm doing as being any different than what people are doing with the Iphone 3g. You can get a brand new one with contract for $200 from AT&T. But if you've ever tried to buy one outside of AT&T you'd see that no one's willing to let an immaculate one go for less than $400 or so generally. Add on an unlock and jailbreak and that can take it up much higher still. Is it "cheating" to want to capitalize on supply and demand circumstances? An item is worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. If no one here thinks my phone is worth $400..that's fine with me. I know there are others that would gladly pay what I'm asking. Obviously, they just don't frequent this site.
I never said you were cheating I was explaining why I think they are pissed off.
Your iPhone vs G1 complaint is like Apples vs Oranges. They are in no way similar. The iPhone can not be bought unless it has a contract. Of course I would pay more for a non contracted phone, but the G1 is 400 with no contract. Wheter it is unlocked and jailbroken is irrelevant since the iPhone can't be software unlocked only jailbroken.
The only criticism I can give for me personally is that I thought you would have at least given xda members a discount. I mean what is 20-40 dollars gonna hurt?
I agree with you in that someone would pay 400 dollars... but I also believe that if you were really trying to help a developer get one you would be giving us a little discount from what you sell it on ebay. But that is just me.
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Hi guys.
I'm developing an app for Android that I need to start testing in "the real deal".
Can you recommend a cheap Android phone (I don't mind getting bulky Chinese clones, as long as they work) that is good for development purposes?
By the way, I'm in Spain, so it would be better if I could buy it online and unlocked
I'd say G1. It's the original dev phone can be had on the cheap from T-Mobile.
G1 totally. T-Mobile is selling them "as low as 129.99" with a data plan. I got mine at eBay last month for 200$.
I got a brand new T-mobile pulse on a special offer from T-mobile and it cost only £91 (around €80) + £10 topup (and I get £15 cash back if I use the sim for 3 months).
So it's worth keeping your eyes open for deals like these. You can grab them on ebay cheap too.
or wait till january and see what happens with the whole nexus one story, rumor is ti'll be < $200
<$200 without a contract? Interesting...
go for a vogue. this is a windows mobile phone, but if you look in the forum for this phone here, its 99% android because it runs android so well. this is cheaper than the g1 and is made by htc.. better than chinese crap any day.
What about the HTC Tattoo, granted the screen resistive unlike the rest of HTC Android line up, which is captive screen. It is still a good device from what I read and it should be fairly cheap.
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200 with contract 600 without contract
I just picked up a Blackberry 9700 ($75) and then I got the Behold II ($120) from one of those tmobile lil places at the mall (not the official tmobile store).
This was all because my wife traded in her old Blackberry 8320 and they'll give you 2 phones for it... (The deal is a 9700 for $75 and then a free 8520, but i hate blackberry's or WM phones after having an android phone) so she got her crappy blackberry and I picked up the Behold II. Love the fact that it has 320MB RAM. As soon as we can try custom firmwares, etc, i'm going to give Debian Linux a try on it.
Behold II is already rooted with Busy Box installed on it.
Check Spains Craigslist, I know they have it cause I used it last time I was there
Not really sure how you say android in Espana but its worth a shot. Of course, you could check other areas but likely going to think you are a nigerian scammer or something. I have seen G1's on there for $125 USD locally
http://barcelona.es.craigslist.es/
Hi guys,
I've just arrived in the US from Europe to go to school here for a number of years. I need to get a new phone and a US plan. Of course I want an Android, and my options are limited to T-Mobile and AT&T since I'll be wanting to use the phone back in Europe during summers so I need a GSM handset. I have a few questions for you guys though.
1. To what extent are the Captivate\Vibrant locked? I want to use a European SIM card in Europe. Is this possible? I'm willing to root the phone \ flash a custom rom if necessary. (I might well do this anyway).
2. For the NJ\NYC(I'll be going to Rutgers) what would you recommend? T-Mobile or AT&T? (I don't like the ATT data cap though).
3. I'm open for other Android options, but on GSM in the US the Galaxy S clones seem to be the best bet. Otherwise I'm quite the fan of HTC.
1. Most Carriers will unlock the phone for you. I know T-mobile will do it after 45 days as a customer.
2. Go with T-mobile, cheaper plans, unlimited data, faster web, better customer service. At&t is a horrid company and is only popular because of the iPhone.
3. I think the Vibrant/Galaxy S is better than the Capative. Doesn't have the At&t bloatware (which is worse than T-mobile bloatware) and will let you install non market apps.
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1. Most Carriers will unlock the phone for you. I know T-mobile will do it after 45 days as a customer.
Thank you for your quick response! Is there a charge involved in unlocking your phone?
Also, where would be the best place to order the phone? T-Mobile.com? Googling for a bit I found it 100$ cheaper at some site called wirefly.com, but perhaps it'd be better to go for the source. The local T-Mobile store did not have any stock, and wouldn't have for some two weeks. I hope their internet store has! As a Rutgers student I get 6% off the plan (not much, but at least something) and I'm not sure how to go about getting that discount online. On the other hand, I need the phone ASAP...
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Thank you for your quick response! Is there a charge involved in unlocking your phone?
Also, where would be the best place to order the phone? T-Mobile.com? Googling for a bit I found it 100$ cheaper at some site called wirefly.com, but perhaps it'd be better to go for the source. The local T-Mobile store did not have any stock, and wouldn't have for some two weeks. I hope their internet store has! As a Rutgers student I get 6% off the plan (not much, but at least something) and I'm not sure how to go about getting that discount online. On the other hand, I need the phone ASAP...
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Amazon ir Wirefly are pretty good.. Amazon sells the phone for $99.99 with a new two-year plan
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Vibrant-Android-Phone-T-Mobile/dp/B003TXSKNE
WireFly offers free three-day shipping with FedEx I believe. Amazon also has free shipping.
Thank you for your quick response! Is there a charge involved in unlocking your phone?
Also, where would be the best place to order the phone? T-Mobile.com? Googling for a bit I found it 100$ cheaper at some site called wirefly.com, but perhaps it'd be better to go for the source. The local T-Mobile store did not have any stock, and wouldn't have for some two weeks. I hope their internet store has! As a Rutgers student I get 6% off the plan (not much, but at least something) and I'm not sure how to go about getting that discount online. On the other hand, I need the phone ASAP...
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T-mobile doesn't charge to unlock the phone. Just call them and tell them you want to unlock the phone. They submit the request and usually you have the unlock code in a day or two.
If you are going to purchase the phone through wirefly make sure you read all the stipulations they have. Usually they have a contract above and beyond T-mobiles. Basically say you sign up on a plan and decide to change that plan wirefly might charge you for changing it. While you save money up front it can cost you more in the long run. Check out Amazon.com as well they have good deals.
I've been chatting with T-mobile custumer support, and I should have figured... I can't get a phone b/c I lack a US SSN and credit history. I could go for a flexpay plan and pay the full price for the phone. Not likely I'm doing that!
I'll be getting a SSN at some point in the autumn, and I guess I'll have to get started on some sort of credit history. Annoying as hell.
In the meantime, I'll either need to get a flexpay plan for my current HTC Magic B (I hate it, it just doesn't have enough RAM to do ANYTHING on it!) or I'll need to get some cheap pre/paid package. Sigh.
On the upside, I guess, the phones will have SSAMOLED and quad-cores by the time T-Mobile will allow me to buy a phone from them.
Why don't you put Cyanogen on your current phone? It's no magic solution, but it'll at least make your experience more enjoyable.
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+1 for Cyanogen on a Magic B. I had CM5 for a long time and CM6 for about a week before I got my Vibrant, and it was pretty damn snappy. Nothing on the Vibrant, of course, but certainly made it MUCH better. I still love that phone, though the screen looks tiny and just awful in comparison nowadays, lol.
Hi,
Can I buy it from say ebay at 50$ and then unlock it using any website??
I know it sounds stupid but I am desperate at trying to test my game on real WP7 device
Thank you
Of course you can. But it probably more like $300+. There are also a lot of stolen demo phones on eBay for cheap but those phones are unusable (see the sticky thread about demo mode).
Sim unlock doesn't work with any website. Only a select few has the unlock code for Focus (see the unlock thread).
Why can't I just buy it for 50$ and can I use it as a test device??
At $50 for an "off-contract phone" you will be buying either A) a broken phone or B) a "demo" phone that was most likely stolen and won't be useful for your purposes anyway.
Your only choice for buying an "off-contract" phone is to buy one at a price that will be much higher than $50.
http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B0047T74VS <-- it's $499.99
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_tr...g+Focus+no+contract&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Those might be legal or they may not be. In the end, it's your call if you want to "roll the dice" and see if you score a cheap off-contract phone.
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Why can't I just buy it for 50$ and can I use it as a test device??
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Because nobody is stupid enough to sell a phone that is currently $399 off contract price on AT&T store for $50.
I bought a Focus on ebay but I paid over $300 for it. You won't be able to purchase a decent working Focus for $50. And you need to look at the Seller's rep.
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Mobilecityonline.com has brand new Focus for $389. I'd rather buy new from there, than buy new off fleabay...
Michael.
So my question is why are websites selling it for less than 500$ like 389$. If it's value unlocked is 500$ why are they selling so cheap compared to the original site??
The AT&T retail price is $399 (was $349 in Dec/Jan and $499 when first instroduced in Nov.). These prices are called MSRP, not the true cost of the phone. No one knows how much it costs AT&T (probably $200+) to buy it from Samsung. And most 3rd party web sites are actually selling way higher than what AT&T sells because they don't make much money selling an off-contract phone vs on-contract phones (where they get a cut from your monthly service charges). Even worse, most sites need to run a full credit report on you before they even sell you an off contract phones.
If someone is willing to sell you a Focus for $50, and it is not a broken one or a demo phone, by all means go ahead and buy it. It will be a deal of the century!
Microsoft Developpers get it for $499, so if you can get it for 10% of that, awesomeness...
IDK, You could try contacting markgamber. He has a Focus he can't give away. Maybe he'll take $50 for it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12046576&postcount=15
So last night, I decided to go to an AT&T store to buy an LTE Note 8.0 only to find that the first three of the corporate stores I called didn't have any in stock. Finally, the fourth store I called had two left. So I went over there fully expecting to pay the full unlocked $499 price. To me, it didn't make sense to lock myself in for two years when I'd only save $100 over full retail.
When I walked in, though, I was helped by the store manager. He gets the tablet for me and then goes to look up my account info so he could convert my plan to a MobileShare. He saw that I bought a Galaxy S4 about 40 days ago and, much to my surprise, offered me the smartphone bundle promotion, which meant I could get the tablet on contract for $199. I knew about the promotion but just assumed I wouldn't qualify since I bought the phone before the Note 8.0 even launched.
Needless to say, saving $300 over full retail WAS enough to get me to go contract. There's great customer service and then there's the service I received last night. The manager totally didn't have to do that for me but offered without me even asking. :good:
Awesome! Gratz to hear about your saving. Att never did me wrong, even when they rep accidentally took away my unlimited data, I just call customer service and they just me back on unlimited data.
I had a similar experience. I purchased an S4 but the Note 8 available when I purchased it. When it was to be released by AT&T my AT&T Sales person called me to let me know it would be available on the morrow and they had 5 in the store and further that even though I had purchased my S4 16 days previous AT&T would give me the promo bundle price of $199.00. That is stellar service in my opinion.
Bruce
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I had a similar experience. I purchased an S4 but the Note 8 available when I purchased it. When it was to be released by AT&T my AT&T Sales person called me to let me know it would be available on the morrow and they had 5 in the store and further that even though I had purchased my S4 16 days previous AT&T would give me the promo bundle price of $199.00. That is stellar service in my opinion.
Bruce
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lol. Dealers do this all the time. They get people into promotions (most which they can find a way to make happen so long as its not too far outside the box).
The dealer did not do it to be helpful, which is the sad thing. Dealers, including managers, make more commission off contracts than they do off devices. So he would have made more commission still with that contract than having you spend money on devices. They do this because the company makes more money having you pay the monthly service cost than by having you buy a full cost phone or tablet.
In essence, it takes a company 18-24 months to make back the subsidized cost of a device. That means that 199 bucks you paid, you will pay back the missing 300 bucks on the plan after typically 18 months. Then they get 6 months of profit. So you do actually pay for the device for full cost anyways.,,,and they just extended out how long between upgrades and by the time you get around to actually being eligible for upgrade they may be extending it out further. The current discussions in the industry are talking about 3 year contracts and 2+ year upgrades.
What you have to consider is the lifetime cost of service and the device. They want you to buy a tablet. It makes you pay for their service, instead of just tethering your phone to the tablet. Tethering is cheaper, not contracts, and you wind up paying A LOT LESS even if you pay full cost for the device.
Truth is that ATT customers typically pay close to 1-2K more than many of the carriers that charge full cost for a device. Basically that 300 bucks you saved cost you at least a grand more in the end, and the manager who was "helping" you basically just weasled you into a contract where you will pay more for a separate plan for the tablet instead of just using cheaper tethering options (considering you still share data regardless) and he just got a good commission out of you.
Sad but true. You just got suckered.
How do I know? Nearly 7 years working in the wireless industry. Some of that time with AT&T and a great deal of that time with retail agents and retail policy.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I hate AT&T dealers. After working for them for so long, Ive come to find that just about every single dealer if about as underhanded as a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon and convince you its a ferrari. I used to see the dealers in my home town and my normal reaction to them is equivalent to the thought of "you sick bastard."
I do not know how many "deals" a dealer has done that I have had to fix, but typically even if their promises are kept they still use you and screw you over.
Ive even heard dealer chatter. How they talk about customers and think of customers as no more than a mark to be scammed so they can get their next commission. Ive seen more respect for their "victims" from the criminals on "to catch a predator."
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lol. Dealers do this all the time. They get people into promotions (most which they can find a way to make happen so long as its not too far outside the box).
The dealer did not do it to be helpful, which is the sad thing. Dealers, including managers, make more commission off contracts than they do off devices. So he would have made more commission still with that contract than having you spend money on devices. They do this because the company makes more money having you pay the monthly service cost than by having you buy a full cost phone or tablet.
In essence, it takes a company 18-24 months to make back the subsidized cost of a device. That means that 199 bucks you paid, you will pay back the missing 300 bucks on the plan after typically 18 months. Then they get 6 months of profit. So you do actually pay for the device for full cost anyways.,,,and they just extended out how long between upgrades and by the time you get around to actually being eligible for upgrade they may be extending it out further. The current discussions in the industry are talking about 3 year contracts and 2+ year upgrades.
What you have to consider is the lifetime cost of service and the device. They want you to buy a tablet. It makes you pay for their service, instead of just tethering your phone to the tablet. Tethering is cheaper, not contracts, and you wind up paying A LOT LESS even if you pay full cost for the device.
Truth is that ATT customers typically pay close to 1-2K more than many of the carriers that charge full cost for a device. Basically that 300 bucks you saved cost you at least a grand more in the end, and the manager who was "helping" you basically just weasled you into a contract where you will pay more for a separate plan for the tablet instead of just using cheaper tethering options (considering you still share data regardless) and he just got a good commission out of you.
Sad but true. You just got suckered.
How do I know? Nearly 7 years working in the wireless industry. Some of that time with AT&T and a great deal of that time with retail agents and retail policy.
I'm not trying to be a downer, but I hate AT&T dealers. After working for them for so long, Ive come to find that just about every single dealer if about as underhanded as a used car salesman trying to sell you a lemon and convince you its a ferrari. I used to see the dealers in my home town and my normal reaction to them is equivalent to the thought of "you sick bastard."
I do not know how many "deals" a dealer has done that I have had to fix, but typically even if their promises are kept they still use you and screw you over.
Ive even heard dealer chatter. How they talk about customers and think of customers as no more than a mark to be scammed so they can get their next commission. Ive seen more respect for their "victims" from the criminals on "to catch a predator."
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While your statements are true they are not necessarily accurate. The only way a person would have been "suckered" is if he didn't know what you describe. But almost all consumers realize that there is no free lunch and that the choice of purchasing outright or monthly result in the full price of the device being paid. The only difference is when payment accrues and how much the final cost will be. No different than purchasing a vehicle or a home.
In addition, the accuracy of your claim of being suckered depends on whether the purchaser bought because of the lower initial price or because he wanted the device in any case. In my case I had already decided to purchase the Note 8 from AT&T and only awaited the availability of the Note 8 at AT&T as I wanted the LTE data option. Thus, my only decision was whether to pay full price or add a two year contract to my account. Since I would have to have a data plan from AT&T to use the LTE feature in any case I needed to have an additional phone line. So I was able to get the regular discounted price or pay full price plus the new line costs (these I would pay no matter how I purchased the device and would last as long as I wanted to use the device). With the additional bundle price I decided to purchase at $199 instead of $399. Of course I realize I will pay full price over the next 24 months including the premium for purchasing by installment. But I knew that, considered it, and choose to do it. Thus, I made a considered decision and was not "suckered".
And clearly the sales staff is trying to sell devices and services that bring them the greatest commission. That's what they do for a living. The consumer knows that too. Maybe the real "suckers" are those sales people that think that they are being really "sharp".
Bruce
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While your statements are true they are not necessarily accurate. The only way a person would have been "suckered" is if he didn't know what you describe. But almost all consumers realize that there is no free lunch and that the choice of purchasing outright or monthly result in the full price of the device being paid. The only difference is when payment accrues and how much the final cost will be. No different than purchasing a vehicle or a home.
In addition, the accuracy of your claim of being suckered depends on whether the purchaser bought because of the lower initial price or because he wanted the device in any case. In my case I had already decided to purchase the Note 8 from AT&T and only awaited the availability of the Note 8 at AT&T as I wanted the LTE data option. Thus, my only decision was whether to pay full price or add a two year contract to my account. Since I would have to have a data plan from AT&T to use the LTE feature in any case I needed to have an additional phone line. So I was able to get the regular discounted price or pay full price plus the new line costs (these I would pay no matter how I purchased the device and would last as long as I wanted to use the device). With the additional bundle price I decided to purchase at $199 instead of $399. Of course I realize I will pay full price over the next 24 months including the premium for purchasing by installment. But I knew that, considered it, and choose to do it. Thus, I made a considered decision and was not "suckered".
And clearly the sales staff is trying to sell devices and services that bring them the greatest commission. That's what they do for a living. The consumer knows that too. Maybe the real "suckers" are those sales people that think that they are being really "sharp".
Bruce
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Same here. I don't feel suckered. I walked into the AT&T store fully planning on paying $499 full retail for the tablet. The contract price was $399 and it wasn't worth it to me to lock myself in for 2 years purely to save $100 off retail. However, when I was offered $199 for the tablet, now we're talking about saving $300 over retail up front and that WAS worth it to me as far as locking myself in for two years. I was able to put the $300 toward something else and I love having an LTE tablet. Win-win. It's only being "suckered" if you're led to believe one thing and something different actually happens. I knew what I was getting into.
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Same here. I don't feel suckered. I walked into the AT&T store fully planning on paying $499 full retail for the tablet. The contract price was $399 and it wasn't worth it to me to lock myself in for 2 years purely to save $100 off retail. However, when I was offered $199 for the tablet, now we're talking about saving $300 over retail up front and that WAS worth it to me as far as locking myself in for two years. I was able to put the $300 toward something else and I love having an LTE tablet. Win-win. It's only being "suckered" if you're led to believe one thing and something different actually happens. I knew what I was getting into.
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"You can lead them to the water but you can't make them drink" Of course you know they will, because they're thirsty!!
Nice that's great that they took care of you.. In reality I think you came out on top because if they switched you to mobile share you are only payin $10 a month for that line being locked in for the next 2 years would be $240 so by being in contract you actually get the device for $60 less than full retail.. Great stuff had a similar experience and that's what pushed me over the edge to get it