Can I buy it off contract?? - Focus General

Hi,
Can I buy it from say ebay at 50$ and then unlock it using any website??
I know it sounds stupid but I am desperate at trying to test my game on real WP7 device
Thank you

Of course you can. But it probably more like $300+. There are also a lot of stolen demo phones on eBay for cheap but those phones are unusable (see the sticky thread about demo mode).
Sim unlock doesn't work with any website. Only a select few has the unlock code for Focus (see the unlock thread).

Why can't I just buy it for 50$ and can I use it as a test device??

At $50 for an "off-contract phone" you will be buying either A) a broken phone or B) a "demo" phone that was most likely stolen and won't be useful for your purposes anyway.
Your only choice for buying an "off-contract" phone is to buy one at a price that will be much higher than $50.
http://wireless.amazon.com/dp/B0047T74VS <-- it's $499.99
http://shop.ebay.com/?_from=R40&_tr...g+Focus+no+contract&_sacat=See-All-Categories
Those might be legal or they may not be. In the end, it's your call if you want to "roll the dice" and see if you score a cheap off-contract phone.

baracatwp7 said:
Why can't I just buy it for 50$ and can I use it as a test device??
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Because nobody is stupid enough to sell a phone that is currently $399 off contract price on AT&T store for $50.

I bought a Focus on ebay but I paid over $300 for it. You won't be able to purchase a decent working Focus for $50. And you need to look at the Seller's rep.
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Mobilecityonline.com has brand new Focus for $389. I'd rather buy new from there, than buy new off fleabay...
Michael.

So my question is why are websites selling it for less than 500$ like 389$. If it's value unlocked is 500$ why are they selling so cheap compared to the original site??

The AT&T retail price is $399 (was $349 in Dec/Jan and $499 when first instroduced in Nov.). These prices are called MSRP, not the true cost of the phone. No one knows how much it costs AT&T (probably $200+) to buy it from Samsung. And most 3rd party web sites are actually selling way higher than what AT&T sells because they don't make much money selling an off-contract phone vs on-contract phones (where they get a cut from your monthly service charges). Even worse, most sites need to run a full credit report on you before they even sell you an off contract phones.
If someone is willing to sell you a Focus for $50, and it is not a broken one or a demo phone, by all means go ahead and buy it. It will be a deal of the century!

Microsoft Developpers get it for $499, so if you can get it for 10% of that, awesomeness...

IDK, You could try contacting markgamber. He has a Focus he can't give away. Maybe he'll take $50 for it?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=12046576&postcount=15

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What price do you pay for an unlocked HD2?

It is about $700 on Amazon and the best price being $675. Plus the shipping cost.
Does anyone have better offers?
http://www.amazon.com/HTC-Unlocked-..._1_1?ie=UTF8&s=wireless&qid=1270388078&sr=8-1
I am planning to get these phones for a cheaper price and ship it worldwide, so am taking in everyones opinion.
Why not buy the T9193? It's about the same price, as the T8585, PLUS you can get 3G Speeds, on other networks, like AT&T, with it.
Am not buying them for personal use.
Its for selling at a better price than Amazon and other sites
You'd never be able to expect as much as a retail store would. After all with a retail store there is a comeback for warranty etc.
I think your main thing is going to be beating T-Mobile's price, as this is where many US users are getting their's.
I paid $650 CDN.
Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
ferraripassion said:
Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
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selling mine for 500 euros. unlocked!
I got mine the first week so it was pricey-959.00 plus overnight fedex-on Amazon. Well worth every penny
digitalhater said:
selling mine for 500 euros. unlocked!
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Expensive m8
ferraripassion said:
Can offer unlocked brand new phone with all accessories at $600, should be a very good price
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Only $50 more from Expansys
http://www.expansys-usa.com/d.aspx?i=188312
If anyone wants to buy let me know
ferraripassion said:
If anyone wants to buy let me know
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If anyone wants to buy, take a look at ferraripassions typical business practices here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=657751
read THAT before deciding to send this goob any money!
ferraripassion,
If you continue to ignore sending me, either, my unlock code, or a refund, I promise to make, hounding, you, my new "hobby".
You can expect me to, daily, hunt down every post you make and reply, with a link to this thread, to warn others of the folly of wasting money, by sending it to you.
On days you do not post I will look for all unlock related threads, linking to this thread, warning others of your tactics.
The admins may not have a problem with you preying on members here, but I will make, as many members, as possible, aware of your antics.
Choose, for yourself, which way this will go from now on.
Sincerely,
KB
"ferraripassion" finally DID come across for me. It took some "work"... He claims he sent the code last night.. not quite the "2 minutes" that were brandished, but I did receive it, via forum posts, nonetheless, So I wasn't "ripped off."
Just setting the record clear (for ANYONE who actually cares).
From XDA's own marketplace, I got it for £310 (about $470). It was a week old, unlocked, perfect condition, with all accessories/box, and this was end of Feb.
I paid 630€ for mine, came with a 2gb memcard ...
It's only money...
1. t9193 model 1st week it was released... $917.00
2. Overnight / weekend shipping... $56.00
3. Screen shield & protective case custom fitted... $40.00
4. Attracting a crowd of gaukers and showing off the device features at the mall as they fitted my device...
*** PRICELESS! ***
Got mine off of AU.Ebay
$680.00 shipped to Florida
T9193 new sealed
It is sitting at LAX right now until Customs figures out I ain't gonna smoke it!
Tmobile
ebay - $579
ship $39.00 (LA to Calgary)
$618 usd
in customs........
$878.74 total from PersonalDigital for my T9193 back in Jan.

[Q] How easy is to buy a Focus without a contract?

I will be traveling to the US in about a week, I want to buy a Focus and was wondering if I will be able to do it without having a contract with At&t..
I'm willing to pay the "No Commitment Pricing" of $500+taxes but I don't know what kind of requirements they impose to the actual purchase of a device in the store.
Anybody has info on this?
idloco said:
I will be traveling to the US in about a week, I want to buy a Focus and was wondering if I will be able to do it without having a contract with At&t..
I'm willing to pay the "No Commitment Pricing" of $500+taxes but I don't know what kind of requirements they impose to the actual purchase of a device in the store.
Anybody has info on this?
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Your best bet is Best Buy if/when they get the phone, I think.
When I bought my Focus today in an official AT&T store, they mentioned I would have to purchase some sort of contract to "get the phone today". I didn't mind since I was planning to, but it felt to me like it was a necessity...
Anyone else have problems buying off contract? I used my upgrade on an iPhone 4 and wanted to buy this for the full retail price today.... Hopefully I don't run into any problems =/
I bought mine no contract with no hassle. I'm already an ATT customer and just asked to buy the phone without a contract.
chizzwhizz said:
I bought mine no contract with no hassle. I'm already an ATT customer and just asked to buy the phone without a contract.
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Same here, I was in and out in about 5 minutes.
Bizybone said:
Same here, I was in and out in about 5 minutes.
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phew... load off my mind. now i can sell off my samsung captivate without worrying the whole day if i did it for nothing. THANKS
I got the phone when the stores open in Columbus, OH on the 8th. There were 4 of us in line there. The other 3 were Microsoft employees. Two bought the focus, one the HTC. All bought them with NO contract. Infact I think one guy paid for all three of them lol. I'm pretty sure since you can order them online with no contract for $499.99 at ATT.com that a contract is not needed.
I walked in and out of a official att store with a focus.
Buy it @ at&t stores should be no problem at all. The biggest problem is to get it unlocked.
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You can't buy the Samsung Focus off contract currently. AT&T will sell it outright ($499 + tax), but they will only sell it to you if your an existing on-contract customer or you sign up (with a minimum term). I've already been to AT&T and tried, apparantly my money is not good enough there. I'm not sure how people in the US put up with this rubbish. Either way, the only way to get a Samsung Focus in the US at the moment is to sign up at AT&T.
I've also been to Best Buy, but they only stock the HTC Surround, which I won't buy due to it not having a microSD slot.
I'm currently an AT&T customer who just renewed my contract for another 2 years for the iphone 4. So they'll be able to sell me one full retail price, right?
www.expansys-usa.com
What about Amazon Wireless, I think you can buy there without a plan...
EDIT: I just confirm this, you can buy without a plan!
Most online site still need to verify your status with AT&T (at least that's the policy with Letstalk.com). Stores don't like to sell phones without contract because there is no money to be made (monthly service charges).
jaraya13 said:
What about Amazon Wireless, I think you can buy there without a plan...
EDIT: I just confirm this, you can buy without a plan!
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You can go elsewhere on the net as well. The problem is AT&T has the best price right now. Everyone else is a good 50-80 more expensive. I'd rather save the extra cash and grab a branded one...
bmstrong said:
You can go elsewhere on the net as well. The problem is AT&T has the best price right now. Everyone else is a good 50-80 more expensive. I'd rather save the extra cash and grab a branded one...
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Dude I meant the branded ones (AT&T), for example the HTC SURROUND AT&T BRANDED price is $460 or something like that. And I was able to go through all the checkout process, just that I didn't want to pay, hehehe
OK cool.. I hope there are Focus left when I´m there!
Amazon.com doesn't have Focus in stock. In fact, it only briefly showed up in like 10 seconds before it was sold out @ 11/8.
You go to Dell online and buy any phone on any carrier in the US and some unlocked Nokia's without a contract and in some cases the prices are pretty good...I have a Streak AND a Nokia N8 on the way lol. The Nokia (ugly pea green one) was actually only $450 compared to $550 most other places. If I don't like either one I may be joining the Focus owners club in a few weeks.
craiglist.. thats how i got mine// 400 bucks.. a week old

[Q] Trying to sell my Focus... Any ideas?

I'm very leery of these internet sites. I've been scammed on eBay, and I've already listed it on Craigslist. I searched around and found Gazelle.com, but they have horrible reviews. Best Buy and Radioshack both buy back old equipment, but for a horribly low return, and it's only in store credit.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Craigslist is your best bet
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What carrier is the phone with and how much are you asking?
Are you in Canada ? I would say Kijiji.ca
I have great success selling and buying products that are advertised.
I'm in the US, the phone is on AT&T (locked), and I was thinking $150-$200 with all the accessories. Is that around the right price? I have a car charger and a case for it.
Imagine you'll be hard pressed to get that when ATT sells them for $99 new.
Captivate selling for $300-400 on Kijiji in Toronto. I think your price is reasonable. Not everyone is eligible for a $99 upgrade and sometimes people need to replace lost/damaged phones or simply can't wait for upgrade pricing.
I would say Craigslist is your best place to sell in your area. Happy Selling !
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Imagine you'll be hard pressed to get that when ATT sells them for $99 new.
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But you need to buy into a 2-yr contract with that $99. $200 for an (albeit locked) phone with no contract seems fair to me. AT&T's no commitment price for a new Focus is $499.
@OP, I would suggest eBay but their fees are very high. Maybe one of the more popular mobile phone sites has a marketplace?

Best Buy and Pricematching

I had to upgrade to my Evo before the April 1 deadline because of the Premier Program changes and I was able to jump in the best buy buyback program for free. And since I don't think I am the only one around here I was wondering.
When I look at what the retail price for phones on bb.com compared to sprint's retail prices, bestbuy is almost $100-200 more. (e.g. sprint Evo $450/ BB Evo $600) Has anyone tried to get them to pricematch sprint when buying a phone at retail price? If you go to bestbuy's pricematch policy the first FAQ is
"What is considered a local retail competitor? "
and the answer is ....
"A retail store located in the same market area as your local Best Buy store."
The reason I ask is this. On the same web page there is a link for a New York Price Match Class Action lawsuit about a similar situation where an individual bought a camera from Best Buy then found the same camera at a "local" camera retail shop for less, and BB wouldn't price match it. And this individual won. (Reference the Decision and Order Document. The conclusion is on the bottom of page 31)
Note : There is more to the story, but this is what started the wheel turning in the lawsuit. I recommend reading that specific document thoroughly so you can see how scandalous retail can be.
I can understand not matching contract prices, although in the past they have for me. But in this case we are talking "retail" price. I have up til August to get 50% for my Evo ($300) and I was thinking for future sake how i would attack the upgrade. I could either do an ETF (about $180) and lose my mobile #, but pay contract price ,or I could just cash in the Evo for the program and buy phone at retail.
Has anyone had any experience with this situation with BB?
Typed on my CyanoSavaged SuperEvo.
I'm not sure why you'd want to sell your phone to best buy when you can get more for it on here, craigslist, or ebay. There is a reason they want to buy it back from you at that price.
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I had to purchase my Evo at full retail price and i looked into this too. I was inclined to purchase it at Best Buy because they actually had it in stock where as the sprint stores near me put me on a waiting list (this was during the 2 week wait list stuff)
I hoped to price match because i knew people there from working there 3 years beforehand
They wouldn't price match for me either
I ended up getting my Evo at Radioshack after walking in randomly to see if they had them in stock. It was like 25 bucks more, but after being on a wait list for over a month i decided 25 bucks more than Sprints retail price was worth it
A little off topic, but on the price match subject at Best Buy. I just bought a new high end refrigerator from best buy, and before she rang it up she went online and checked all the major appliance sellers for the product and Lowes had it for $159 cheaper so they matched that price with out even asking. Of course, I had already shopped around and new of the lower price and was planning on making them price match. I prefer shopping at best buy for big purchases to maximize my reward points.
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I'm not sure why you'd want to sell your phone to best buy when you can get more for it on here, craigslist, or ebay. There is a reason they want to buy it back from you at that price.
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$300 for an EVO which is nearly 2 generations old hardware is a VERY good amount to receive for it.
They only fetch $200-250 average on craigslist, and that's begging the buyer to pay more.
I have purchased a phone from best buy at retail price and they matched the price to sprint for me. I don't know why they would not. That seems kind of stupid.
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princessakiki said:
I have purchased a phone from best buy at retail price and they matched the price to sprint for me. I don't know why they would not. That seems kind of stupid.
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A lot of times it depends on the sales person. Same thing when you walk into a Sprint store for an upgrade, exchanges, or just service.
OneStepAhead said:
I'm not sure why you'd want to sell your phone to best buy when you can get more for it on here, craigslist, or ebay. There is a reason they want to buy it back from you at that price.
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Evo's go for about $200-$250 here in the Phoenix area, you will occasionally see the $300, but I doubt that is where the negotiating settles at.
I have purchased a phone from best buy at retail price and they matched the price to sprint for me. I don't know why they would not. That seems kind of stupid.
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Obviously you didn't read the Class Action I referenced. In the reading the customer was told he could not price match because the identical camera was sold at a local retailer that specifically sold photography equipment, not an electronics chain store like Ultimate Electronics or Circuit City for example. Also they were practicing within the Best Buy chain that they would not price match it it was not cost effective, like a percentage of profit over cost.
Now I know from being a part time manager in the past at an Autozone store that we were not allowed to price match oil/antifreeze products against Wal-Mart, Target, etc., specifically for the reason they were big box stores. But we "could" pricematch other auto part retailers (Checkers, Napa, etc.) This is why I asked the question, because I was wondering if Best Buy has ever said that when buying a phone retail. Because I could see something said along the lines of, "Well they have lower retail because they receive your monthly payment."
In a "for profit" business, I don't think it would be stupid on their end not to price match as they give back considerably higher buy back on phones over Sprint. Also Best Buy may not buy as many phones as Sprint so their bottom line could be slightly higher.
The best buy buy back program is a scam. I'm glad you got it for free; its like saying hey you pay me $250 upfront to purchase this $1000 laptop, and when you trade it back you only get 500. This is stupid and Best buy wins. I used to shop at best buy all the time until realizing that their markup on everything is like 30% higher than normal retail value. I purchased my heroc on launch day at best buy and paid 100 bucks for it with upgrade. I believe at the time sprint had it for 199 with upgrade. I think their full retail price is much higher on phones because they just cancel out the rebates. I purchased my evo at radio shack for 99.88 but their full retail price was also much higher than sprint's as well. Hmmm
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Yeah, there is no way I would have purchased it.
However, the situation was at the time was that I had an upgrade that I was going to lose in April whether I used it or not. So now with the EVO3D and the Nexus S coming out, I would like to take advantage of it if necessary.

Upgrade at AT&T or Best Buy?

I will be upgrading and renewing on an AT&T 2 year family contract.
AT&T charge $199 plus $40 upgrade fee.
Best Buy and Costco charge $99 plus the same upgrade fee.
Is there any reason to waste an extra $100 doing this with AT&T?
AT&T Sales support told me there is no difference except in insurance coverage which I wont be taking out.
All warranty issues will be handled by AT&T tech support regardless of where the deal was done.
AT&T said today when I asked them about the $100 price difference "ATT focuses on being a service provider, so our prices aren't always optimum, since we're not a device retailer or manufacturer. I always advise doing what's best consumer wise"
I buy all my phones from best buy and they're great. I don't get insurance either but their insurance plan is better too. Also once you get a phone there they give you a $50 per year credit every year for each of your phone lines.
I always get my phones from best buy. They always have much better deals. I actually did the At&t next through best buy and received a $100 gift card which was a WIN!!! There aren't real disadvantages of going to best buy over the company store honestly. So i'd say save your money and grab it from BB.
Between those two I'd go with BB as well due to their lower price and incentives. Hey, the phone was $99 plus a $50 GC when it launched - can't beat that! I've purchased from Costco as well. They usually have decent prices, and if needed they have a special package for Square Trade as well. Deductible used to be $25 on their member plan, but might be $50 now.
I will never shop at Best Buy unless I absolutely have to. More than once they've sold me something as "new" which clearly had been an opened and used product. I've read quite a bit of other people having the same experiences.
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