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New menu for WM5

As I missed New menu that was on previous versions of WM5, i looked for some replacement but didn't find anything. So I've created small app which simulates this functionality. It's actually configurable launcher with a few predefined actions. Here are some screenshots:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Its configuration is in "Settings" (control panel). It can be bound to the both today keys and any hardware button. In certain cases (if default app is bound to a today key) the new change takes effect after soft-reset. App will notice such case.
App home page: http://www.saman-cz.com
Direct download link:http://www.saman-cz.com/ppc/WM5NewMenu.CAB(118k) and
http://www.saman-cz.com/ppc/WM5NewMenu.zip(52k)
Version history
2.0.2
- Fixed key shortcuts, now works with the soft keyboard
- Other fixes
2.0.1
- Del key is the shorcut for 'Remove item' action
- 'Command' field is renamed to 'File'
- Context menu has a command for sorting items
- File browser can open any file
- Bugfixes
2.0.0
- Launching by a hardware button
- Cascading menus (up to 6 levels)
- Separators
- Quick "SMS to" and "Call " actions (button "browse - ..." acts as the Contact selector)
- Configurable positioning
- Context menu
- Copy/cut & paste edit actions
- Keyboard shorcuts (Ctrl+C/X/V for edit actions and Ctrl+N for "New")
- "New items" are now configurable as a submenu
- Backup and restore from file
- Drag&drop
1.0.0
- added action for new email
- added browse file dialog
1.0.0 beta
- Major rewrite of the Settings part
- smaller installation
- no more DLLs conflicts
- faster GUI
0.9.6 beta
- Fixed "last item" issue
0.9.5 beta
- Added support for original "New items"
0.9.1 beta
- Added new default items (contact, note, MMS, excel, work)
- Fixed showing menu on VGA devices
- Fixed other buggs
- In this version during instalation removes already configured items
0.9.0 beta
- Initial version

Hey nice i missed that on wm5 :lol:
really love this forum always great stuff

Superb! I'll look into it hopefully tonight
I did the same thing yesterday myself for VJSihaya. But your implementation looks beautiful!
V

vijay555: Thanks. BTW i always wanted to make some command-line tools to one-clink send-sms and call-someone and in the half of work i found your Phone tools :lol:

Starting a new sms was easy. However, VJSMSSender required a surprising amount of work, since it bypasses the Inbox. Completely different code
What language is your app written in?
V

Its in c++
The GIU (settings) part is written with support of MFC (easiest way) but i plan to rewrite it into version without MFC, because of necessity of 3 additional runtime libraries, which makes whole app large.
For sending SMS i use MailComposeMessage which makes sending of whatever very easy, but the bad is that it can be used only on WM5.

WOW. Looks nice. "new menu" lost in WM5 is on a of the worst things in WM5.
Is it possible to run two instances with different configurations at the same time? One - to have new "new menu", second one, assigned to the second softkey as a quick launcher?

Hmmm. There is another way.
I reimplemented the New functionality using the original OS method, so custom New items as installed by various apps (eg Text Maker) also appear; that way it's backwards and forwards compatible with the OS (I'm trying to make VJSihaya work on Wm2003 and Wm5). PM me if you need details.
This is what I don't understand. The original OS method is still there, just the New button is missing.
I love your implementation of the customisable menu. I'm too busy to do that right now... but I need to figure out a nice method, so I can make VJTrayLaunch and a few other apps nicely customisable.
V

Nice program. How can I add more things to the menu? Like new note or something. What do I need to put in the command and parameters fields?
Cheers

baniaczek: Running two separete instaces is not possible, because there is only one configuration.
matheprat: all you need is to know the program executable and its (optional) params and fill appropriate fields. A new item you create by "New Item" button.
vijay555: It's a good idea to support original new items. I know how they works, i will think about implementation into some future version..

Great stuff! :lol:

Just found a bug,
When i press the new button, the menu shows up at the middle of the screen, i think that's because i have a vga device using landscape mode (Jasjar)...

nazdar saman,
velmi pekne...
dik
buzz

nruz: Thanks for a notice. I totaly forgot about VGA devices..

saman-cz said:
matheprat: all you need is to know the program executable and its (optional) params and fill appropriate fields. A new item you create by "New Item" button.
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What is the program executable, and parameters for creating a new note?
I did notice another possible bug, in that you can't seem to have just a new SMS and Appointment in the list, without a new Task too, no matter how they are checked.
Also, the menu doesn't disappear once the "new" button is reclicked, as the other menus do, something you may want to implement.
Cheers

For those who use Pocket Informant, the parameters to introduce are :
"2 -new" for a New Appointment
"4 -new" for a New Task
I still have some problems with this command line when PI is already running in the background.

matheprat said:
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Also, the menu doesn't disappear once the "new" button is reclicked, as the other menus do, something you may want to implement.[...]
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I'd like this feature too.

Cool! I've even thought about writing the similar program myself. You saved my time
Bug. The program don't work when installed to "Ramdisk 32" or maybe also to storage card. Configuration DLL is placed into "\Ramdisk 32\Windows" subdirectory instead of "\Windows".
Another bug. After uninstalling incorrectly installed program, reinstallation ends with error.

I just ask a friend about the option of changing the shortcut and you answered my prayer fr that... Thanks for the great application

Can you add to the "Command" part a "Browse" button please? Also, will you make it open-source?

[NEW] K's Touch PCM Keyboard Skin & Layout

Here's my PCM Touch Keyboard. The keyboard has HTC Symbol pad's symbols fully integrated into it. By holding down certain keys for 250ms, you'd be able to toggle certain symbols. For example, holding down "a" will show all the "a" accents. Holding down "spacebar" will show common browser shortcuts, and etc etc.
*I don't know why the first picture looks brighter than the others...*
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Holding down the numbers will also toggle some symbols. These are usually symbols that are listed on your ordinary full size keyboard. For example,
1=~, !
[email protected]
3=$ (and various $ signs)
5=%
As you can see, I have also included some ghetto smileys into the mode button tapping the mode button doesn't change anything as there's only 2 modes in this keyboard (caps lock and lower case - double tap shift to toggle between them). However, holding down the mode button will show some commonly used symbols found at the lower portion of a keyboard.
The keyboard is based on the English layout. If you native language is not English, simply change the first two lines of the layout to the layout you commonly use. Everything else should work regardless of the base layout.
Installation is simple, just toss both files into Program Files\PCM Keyboard, select the layout and skin from pcm keyboard option and you are done.
BEFORE INSTALLATION
-open up the layout file with notepad, and replace this line:
symbol_pad=0,)-_+±
There's an extra "-" in the original layout file as seen in picture.
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sir.... looks good but couldnt try coz the file is corrupt....

Looks good, but do you still need to update the PCM Keyboard every now and then? Because the PCM Keyboard has "expired date" which is really annoying.
I would rather to pay (even in this beta version) rather than having to visit the site, download, uninstall, reinstall, etc. etc.

I'm not sure if 0.12 still expires....I'm actually rather new to PCM Keyboard...I skinned it because I wanted a better keyboard to be used with my touch style rom...and the touch xt9 keyboard/keypad is a pita.....
Well, I hope you guys like it, you can easily customize the keyboard layout file to show whatever symbols you want when you hold down a key

Wow! wonder ful. I like it...

I like the look. Its my new skin.
Shouldn't it be "http://" instead of "http:\\"?
Also i could never figure out why on the skins they always have the "'" key above the backspace instead of something like the ".". I don't use hte "'" key as much as I do ".". I usually just change it in the layout file myself.

Is it possible to have a button to switch screen orientation?
Jem777

Really nice, i usually use the PhonePad, but with these nice tweaks u've done 2 it i'll 4sure give it a try...
Thanx for a great work

As noted above, the zip file seems to be corrupt. Downloads okay but won't open.

The current version of PCMK, v.12, is set to expire on Jan 15 or thereabouts. So, yes, it still does expire. I agree it is a bit annoying. But the keyboard is generally great with the rigth skin. I prefer the other "refined" one to this. This is complete, but the buttons are too small IMO. Still both are nice. Different strokes for different folks.

jomo25 said:
The current version of PCMK, v.12, is set to expire on Jan 15 or thereabouts. So, yes, it still does expire. I agree it is a bit annoying. But the keyboard is generally great with the rigth skin. I prefer the other "refined" one to this. This is complete, but the buttons are too small IMO. Still both are nice. Different strokes for different folks.
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Here is a link to the "refined" thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349647
I was curious how this layout would look with my black iphone skin... So if you like BIG keys and this layout, you can select K's layout and one of the iphone skins from my thread above. The screen shot is of this configuration.
Good work K! I like some of your shortcuts.

Here is my skin and layout...

the bigger keyboard is nice. I'd skin it with the touch look later

Just wanted to see a side by side comparison.

is it just me because when holding down "spacebar" will show common browser shortcuts etc... nothing happens??

gfreek said:
is it just me because when holding down "spacebar" will show common browser shortcuts etc... nothing happens??
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@ gfreek,
Does this work?
klmsu19 said:
-If you press the internet explorer key you will get "http://www."
-If you press and hold the internet explorer key you can choose: https://, .net, .org, .com or www."
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CORRUPT ?????????
bassett said:
As noted above, the zip file seems to be corrupt. Downloads okay but won't open.
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I opened the corrupt file in notepad and saw that is in fact a ".RAR" that was renamed to ".ZIP", why?, I don't know...
Just rename the file ext. from ".zip" back to ".rar" and it should work 100 %
Great skin dude...

You don't have to Unistall, reinstall thingy, just change the date to whatever before 15/Jan-08 and it will work..
gogol said:
Looks good, but do you still need to update the PCM Keyboard every now and then? Because the PCM Keyboard has "expired date" which is really annoying.
I would rather to pay (even in this beta version) rather than having to visit the site, download, uninstall, reinstall, etc. etc.
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jem777 said:
Is it possible to have a button to switch screen orientation?
Jem777
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no biggie.
you can assign camera button to rotate the screen.
setting - button - <rotate screen>
works like a charm for me.

do you have keyboard skin whick looks like an ordinary phone keypad?. i just got used to it already when messaging.
please help kin0kin.

[NEW] Touch QWERTY PCM Keyboard Skin

Here we go Touch QWERTY Keyboard for PCM Keyboard. It uses the same layout as my previous touch keyboard, whole symbol pad is fully integrated into it. Hold a key for 500ms to symbols beneath it. You can customize what is shown when you hold the key from the layout file.
IGNORE the awesome TEAL Text
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Installation instructions
Install PCM Keyboard
Install the Cab
Select PCM Keyboard, then go into options
Select 4-Row-WWE in layout
Touch-QWERTY in skin
Soft Reset and you are ready to go
NOTE: If you do not soft reset, some functions may not work.
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Don't forget to donate if you love my work.
Check this thread for another version of Touch Keyboard I made.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=352942

Nice job!
You beat me to it I was working on the same skin and noticed this post. I tend to like a larger space bar and am used to using the pop up option or symbol pad for numbers, so I modified one of my iPhone layout files to work with this skin. These screen shots are your skin file with the Eng iphone 15 layout file (attached).
One thing to point out is you need to have clear type enabled in settings, system (tab), screen, ClearType (tab) in order for the text to display as shown.
This thread has more details on the layout features:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349647

Great your layout is easier on the fingers as the spacebar and symbols are larger. I only did a direct port on the keyboard from the touch keyboard/keypad. I've got an idea in making the touch qwerty layout more convenient will post up the layout in a bit. Also, 2manyphones, you might want to change the spacebar symbol pad to something more useful, or change the # of keys to 4 or 6. You will know why after you press and hold on the keyboard
EDIT: nvm what I said, for some reasons putting space in symbol pad isnt possible without another letter together with it. I'll modify the skin a little to make it more aesthetically pleasing with your layout.

Updated Skin for Eng iphone 15 layout
Here's an altered skin to be used specifically with 2manyphones' Eng iphone 15 layout.
Touch-XL-sym.skin = Shows Sym on mode button
Touch-XL-123.skin = Shows 123 on mode button
2manyphones, feel free to post it up in your thread

Thanks! I guess that does make more sense having the numbes pop up from a key labeled 123 instead of SYM.
Here are some screenshots with the Touch-XL 123 skin file and the Eng iphone15 layout file.
Hey Kin0Kin, how about making a cab file with both skins and this layout, so people can easily install them and choose what works best for them?

Sure, I'll pack up all the layouts and the touch skin, including my older one. As an auto install cab

kin0kin said:
Sure, I'll pack up all the layouts and the touch skin, including my older one. As an auto install cab
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I want that CAB!! I have not installed the iphone layout on pcm, playing with your skin on it, will the cab auto install the new layout you have above?

yes, everything will be installed. There is a cab file in my rom thread that will install the skin and layout of the kb I made.

kin0kin said:
yes, everything will be installed. There is a cab file in my rom thread that will install the skin and layout of the kb I made.
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I have that cab installed (from the Rom thread) is there an option to put the keyboard into the iphone layout (ie make the letters bigger and get rid of the numbers)?

Touch skins and layouts collection
All in one package
5R-wwe-sym layout + 5R-WWE skin
4R-wwe layout + 4R-qwerty skin
Eng iphone15 layout + 4R-XL-sym skin
Code:
******************************************************
*This cab will install the following layout and skins*
******************************************************
Layouts
- Eng iphone15 (2manyphones)
- 5R-wwe-sym (kin0kin)
- 5R-wwe (kin0kin)
- 4R-wwe (kin0kin)
Skins (kin0kin)
- 4R-qwerty
- 4R-XL-123
- 4R-XL-sym
- 5R-WWE
Note:
5R = 5 rows
4R = 4 rows
sym (layout) = integrated symbol pad, press and hold keys to toggle symbols
sym (skins) = keyboard mode button image shows Sym
123 (skins) = keyboard mode button image shows 123

I love this. It's all I use now since the touch keyboard doesn't work properly on kaiser when xt9 is disabled. i like big buttons for my 1 thumb quick typing!

2manyphones said:
You beat me to it I was working on the same skin and noticed this post. I tend to like a larger space bar and am used to using the pop up option or symbol pad for numbers, so I modified one of my iPhone layout files to work with this skin. These screen shots are your skin file with the Eng iphone 15 layout file (attached).
One thing to point out is you need to have clear type enabled in settings, system (tab), screen, ClearType (tab) in order for the text to display as shown.
This thread has more details on the layout features:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=349647
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Italian layout? Can I have it?

is it possible to get the "5R-wwe-sym layout" layout without the number row? I really like the popups for "http://" etc. Nice skin too, good work!

you guys put HTC to shame.. what a sh!tty keyboard they shipped.
so I bow, I salute.. you did a great job tthis and the PC Keyboard are a MUST have for anyone with the htc touch
If you're like me and:
- love qwerty
- hate having to hit the same key multiple times
- not stylus crazy. ( useful but not ALL the time )
then this is what you need. I installed and so far so good. The skin is so sweet it looks like ti shipped with HTC.
I'm no expert, this is the first thing I've "installed" imply copied to my documents and ran the PC keyboard, then I downloaded the skin and copied into the program files folder for PC Keyboard and I've been smiling since!!!
Thanks guys!

Great skin, many thanks for your work!!!
The Touch-QWERTY is working with standard PCM KB Russian layout, seem to be ok.

Best Layout EVER !
Great layout and great instructions.
Sometimes I think people forget that there are noobs like me around
and get frustrated when people ask "stupid" questions or need clear
instructions. Thanks again.
This post dated September 5696, 1993

PrimeContact - fast and beautiful finger-oriented contact manager with fullscreen CID

PrimeContact 2.216
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Description:
Contact manager “Primetech Contacts for Windows Mobile” is designed to manage contact list using a finger instead of stylus.
All contact list actions are made by the moving of a thumb. Various movements done over the list (bottom-up, right-left, etc.) correspond to a certain action. It works well for fast contact search and making calls on the move when there is no opportunity to use stylus. Do everything you want: send SMS, MMS, make calls with just a flick of a finger!
Large and user-friendly iPhone style control elements provide extremely comfortable way of navigation through your phone book.
With the easily-customizable interface you can change anything you want from position on the screen to size and color of the elements. Create your own theme or use the existing ones. There is also hardware keyboard search support, wheel support and flip-mode support.
Features:
CallerID (incoming caller photo)
Acceptable speed even on slow processors;
Smooth scrolling with the inertia effect;
Screen Keyboard;
Fullscreen photo viewing in the information section of the contact
Installing the contact photo (without compression);
Various search modes:
Search by the first letter of contact''s name;
Search by the group (company / category / favourites);
Search by first letters(~T9) (using keyboard);
Search by the part of the phone number (using keyboard);
Through-search over all of the contact''s information fields (using keyboard);
Choosing a phone number and calling;
Full support of hardware buttons and hardware numeric keyboard;
Fully customizable interface (colors, fonts, size, speed, the output format).
Handled finger-moves:
up/down - contacts list scrolling in the given direction;
left - choosing telephone number;
right - detailed contact''s information;
continuous "tap" on the contact - dialing;
PrimeContact has hidden TAP-zones located on the corners of the screen:
Upper left corner - select group/company
Upper right corner - main menu
Lower right corner - select letter
Homepage | Buy
Unregistered version is fully functional except for the ability to call.
Activation code must be entered at the "About" tab in "Main menu -> Settings"
Downloads: CAB | ZIP (including wm2003)
Additional:
Font generator: font_gen | POST about it

wow really nice app. Some words are in Russian though.

I like the one handed operation,but I cant figure out the whole interface. Being able to access all the contacts' numbers is priceless.I had to reset my device just to get out of the program. The scrolling isnt as smooth as the competition......

Some words are in Russian though
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Where?
Vukile said:
I like the one handed operation,but I cant figure out the whole interface. Being able to access all the contacts' numbers is priceless.I had to reset my device just to get out of the program.
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Minimizing program bind to the reject button. You can bind exit from the program to any hardware button: PrimeContact.cfg: ContactList.key.close. Do not pay attention to the Russian comments
The scrolling isnt as smooth as the competition......
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You can choose smooth scrolling parameters: PrimeContact.cfg: ContactList.scroll.speed, ContactList.scroll.deceleration_percent

i like your app very nice thanks.

Some words are in Russian though
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Fixed! New version in the head.

Thanks. For the fix.
I like it so much I am working on a Touch skin for it.
Is it possible to have the "skin.cfg" and "PrimeContact.cfg" translated?

Impressive
It's really an impressive application.
I wonder if there is a way to have the index letters in greek instead in russian. Also, the main problem is that it converts my greek characters into russian characters, and I don't know how to solve it.

I wonder if there is a way to have the index letters in greek instead in russian
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You can use font generator (charset = 161 (GREEK)). The next step is to put them in a fonts folder of used skin
font_gen_eng.zip

One question: What I have to do for exiting app ?? I can't close it !!!!
Btw, great app. so....
Greetings

ThunderRoad said:
One question: What I have to do for exiting app ?? I can't close it !!!!
Btw, great app. so....
Greetings
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Press red phone (reject call) button. This question has beeen answered just several posts above yours...

PrimeContact said:
You can use font generator (charset = 161 (GREEK)). The next step is to put them in a fonts folder of used skin
font_gen_eng.zip
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Thanks for your reply!
I try to run it in my pc but it doesn't run (it says: "The system cannot execute the specified program.").
When I try to run it in ppc, nothing happens.

jolas said:
Thanks for your reply!
I try to run it in my pc but it doesn't run (it says: "The system cannot execute the specified program.").
When I try to run it in ppc, nothing happens.
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For me it works. I put the font_generator.exe and fonts.bat to the fonts folder of blue skin and I edit the font.bat to generate only the 4 fonts that the skin needs. After I transfer the files to device and all now are in greek!

I wonder if there is a way to have the index letters in greek instead in russian
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This file contains necessary fonts in different charsets
necessary fonts (some charsets)

dancer_69, thanks for your reply!
PrimeContact, thank you very much for the charsets!!!

Can we have and the configuration files in english?

I traduce the lang file in french
I have a non-phone mpda, how can i exit from prime contacts ? Thanks a lot
I find myself, mapping the exit to the pad (down for exemple)

guimau31 said:
I traduce the lang file in french
I have a non-phone mpda, how can i exit from prime contacts ? Thanks a lot
I find myself, mapping the exit to the pad (down for exemple)
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I have the same problem. I tried and on my qtek 8500 without touchscreen and works pretty good. But need some config with the buttons.
And here is the greek language, just erase the doc extention:

Very useful application.
The only drawback is that it takes too long to load. Will this be improved in further releases?
Thanks,
Fran

Another thing I have noticed is that even though I have created ANSI fonts using fonts.bat and put them all in the corresponding FONTS folder, I still do not get the accented letters in Spanish. For example:
Where it should say "Fotógrafo" y get "Fotygrafo", instead of ""Mecánico" it shows "Mec6nico", etc.
Fran

[Q] Trying to understand / remap hardware keys

I'm probably going to get a Z but one thing that puts me off it is I want to use it for things like coding HTML / CSS and it would be useful to have quick access to < > keys but looking at the key layout it just has ( ) keys:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
But.... There is a SYM key as well as a FN key. Does that mean that some keys will have three functions, 1. default 2. FN and 3 . SYM?
Or will the SYM button bring up a list of symbols on the software keyboard to insert?
Ideally I would be able to remap ( ) to < >, could that be possible?

If it's anything like the TP2 (which I imagine it is), then the SYM key (which was accessed by pressing the FN key and another button), allows you to choose a symbol from a list shown on the screen... Sorry

Im pretty sure they could be mapped once rooted I'll look through a dump for you

[Q] Add extra keys to the hardware keyboard?
Is there a way that I can add the keys ">" and "<" to my hardware keyboard? I'm looking to see if I can add those to the two shortcut keys if possible but they only allow me to put programs on them..
I was also thinking a "Menu + N" and "Menu + M" for the two symbols but I'm not sure if that's possible either.
If that all doesn't work.. can I just add the symbols to the SYM menu? There's so few keys in that SYM menu it's actually a bit disappointing.
Thanks!

FireGX said:
Is there a way that I can add the keys ">" and "<" to my hardware keyboard? I'm looking to see if I can add those to the two shortcut keys if possible but they only allow me to put programs on them..
I was also thinking a "Menu + N" and "Menu + M" for the two symbols but I'm not sure if that's possible either.
If that all doesn't work.. can I just add the symbols to the SYM menu? There's so few keys in that SYM menu it's actually a bit disappointing.
Thanks!
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Hi! Spaniard here. I received my Z two days ago and I'm really enjoying it. However, being Spanish I need characters such as ¿ or ¡ in the hardware keyboard. I've tried every conceivable key combination, with no luck.
Does anybody know how to get those keys? Thank you in advance.

anything new in remaping?
Hi did you get any further in this? I really would like to get arrows (left and right at least) to hardware keyboard -

I've been exploring this, partly for flash games but also it would be nice to long-press the top row of keys to get numbers, rather than the alternate character menu. I've only seen old attempts on the g1, apparently its a tricky process.
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As far as i remember you can access < and > by longpressing ( and ). It was mentioned somewhere here in the forum.

You cannot long press ) on the Desire Z to get GT or LT. To my knowledge there's no way save collapsing the hardware keyboard and using the softkeys.
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Hmm that's strange, they left out two of the main keys. It's annoying to keep reverting to soft keyboard. I think i'll email htc so that they include it in the long-press key list in the next update.

Yeah. I doesn't make any sense, because when you long press lots of keys you get an on screen menu to select the symbol you want to insert (such as á, é, ñ...). But if you long press ? the only thing you get is ????????????? instead of a menu.
Well, at least I'm glad to know that it can't be done, I thought it was possible and I was unable to find how
I'm thinking about switching to a G2 ROM, since it seems they can get whatever symbol they want, don't they?

Mmm... it seems that in the G2 forum they have been able to modify the default keymap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837002
Would something like this be possible for the Desire Z?

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Mmm... it seems that in the G2 forum they have been able to modify the default keymap.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=837002
Would something like this be possible for the Desire Z?
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Yeah, because they're basically the same phone (just different radio bands). I don't know if the exact same method will work on the DZ ROM, but it must be pretty close if not the same.

Mm... I don't know the first thing about Android, but having a look at the /system/usr/keychars directory I can see there are a lot of different files, besides the vision-keypad.kcm.bin. I'm quite interested in vision-keypad-esn.kcm.bin, since it seems to have something to do with Spanish
There's also a vision-keypad-esn.kll in /system/usr/keylayout.
Does anybody a way of trying to "activate" this files? I'm leaning to try to replace the vision-keypad.kl and vision-keypad.kcm.bin files with the "esn" ones, but wouldn't like to break something.