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My tytn require a quite large amount of time to wake up and I was wondering if I was the only one in this case.
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.
The virtual keyboard used for inputing the code is also getting on my nerv; most of the time it start with the landscape layout (without any reason) and it take 2 sec to adjust to the portrait layout; during that time it is hard for me to input my code correctly because the size of the key is changing.
So, 2-4 seconds for waking up plus 2 seconds for keyboard adjustement is in my opinion quite slow. Am I the only one experiencing this? Are there fixes out there?
I also have some trouble with notification; it wake the device up! If the device is not password protected (only after 15 minutes on my phone) it start most of the time PIE (because of the hardware button). All this lead so to my second question: Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
Thank you in advance !
fun_key said:
Is there a way not to wake up the device (at least the input) in order to avoid unwanted press on the hardwares buttons.
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Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
Thanks for your fast answer, i ll give a try!
Concerning the screen orientation issue I found out that it is related to the HTC case magnet.
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In fact it was already configured like this; the device is not waked up by the hardware buttons, but by the notifications.
if you use the key lock you can avoid unwanted key presses. As for wake up times. I don't think anyone who has this device wants to admit that it takes to long cause they paid sooo much for it. However, I will admit that it does take a long time to wake up. I am comfortable saying this because its much like a turbo car, at first its not as fast as most naturally aspirated cars (turbo lag), then it blows their doors off. So it takes a couple seconds to wake up, then its faster then most other devices.
Later, Lew
Agreed. Coming from standby I get two rings of the "Old Phone" ringtone before it goes to voice mail.
I am hoping that new firmware will resolve this issue - my wizard was certainly more responsive when i presses the poer button to bring it out of standby. This is furthur delayed by the fact that i keep scabbling around the top of the device for the power button insted of the side!
pof said:
Settings -> System -> Key Lock -> When device is off: "Lock all buttons except Power button"
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This doesn't help with the particular problem. What I think fun_key is trying to say is that whenever he gets a notification (for example when he gets a new sms message or a notification for a meeting) the phone will come out of sleep mode, so the key lock setting for "when device is off" won't be in effect. Instead the device will be powered up and accepting all keypresses, like the IE / Messaging- buttons, not to mention any presses on the screen.
I too find this annoying, and wish there was a way to make the phone go back to sleep after showing me a notification, instead of waiting for the default sleep time to go by. There are programs out there that have this functionality (for example MortSaver) though, so my advice would be to use those.
- Pud.0
thank for the mortsaver ip; i ll give a try!
Have exactly the same problems as fun_key (power button, keyboard in landscape, etc), and I suspect most of other people do. The wizard was definitely more responsive.
fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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g00nerz said:
fun_key said:
It may require from 2 to 4 seconds to recover from standby; I tried to phone myself and it took about one or 2 "tuuuut" (sorry, no better english translation for that word =)) before the phone began to ring; this is quite anoying because I have to answer very fast in order not to miss call.QUOTE]
I've found a solution to the problem regarding the length of time before a call is missed (this is probably known by most people, I only found it after tinkering with the settings):
Start>Settings>Phone>Services(Tab). Choose Call Forwarding in the list, then click Get Settings. Change the 'Forward After' setting to a higher number. I changed mine to 25 seconds. Problem solved for me!
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Glad your problem is solved. Perhaps others may find the following of note as well as your solution above:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-258109.html
Mike
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Hi team
I have the same issue, every time i turn my hermes on after its been off for more than say 30seconds it starts in landscape mode then switches to portraite mode, its driving me mad, at least i now know i am not the only person. maybe this will be fixed in the next rom update, fingers crossed aye
UPDATE: i also found this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286552&highlight=standby+landscape
does anyone have any thoughts on his comments?
I actually think that the reply in the thread i posted above is correct,
My Hermes is an IMATE JASJAM (same thing of course) and i use the original belt holder that came with it, it has two (2) magnets in it to keep the cover shut, when ever i get a msg and i pull it out of the case (turns on automatically to show me the msg) its always comes out in landscape mode.
I turned my phone on and passed the cover with magnet side down over the phone and sure enough as i did that the screen changed from portrait to landscape mode, thus confirming its the magnet that causes it and not a defect with the phone.
I use my 8525 in a side case and when the phone rings I usually pull out the phone to see who's calling to decide if i want to answer... though 9 out of 10 times i accidentally hit the answer button. I always lock my phone via device lock on today screen... is there a reg hack or setting which will allow me to disable or customize ALL the buttons (when in lock mode) on the 8525 so I don't accidentally answer. to me if i were to assign a button (ie power or ptt) to only be allowed to accept a call (when the phone is in lock mode) that'd be great. I'm tired of auto answering and what good does a device lock do if you can easily auto answer?
bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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bumping this back up... Can I be the only one with this issue? If so how do you use your phone and not auto answer?
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Sorry you're not getting replies and I have no solution of the type you are looking for sadly. I've tried to replicate what you say happens but it's not easy!!! My key is not that easily pressed and I always put the device back with screen towards my body - my fingers don't seem to get very close to the green button.
This is probably daft to suggest but have you checked the setting that lets you specify auto answer within X number of rings - just in case it's answering the call by itself!!. (apologies if you checked this setting already!!)
Mike
This may do what you want...
http://www.pocketmax.net/smf/index.php?PHPSESSID=da5459e6aadc9c38d5a74b0276782091&board=19.0
Auto Answer is not set... the problem is (and it's a problem with the phone design) when the phone is locked none of the buttons respond until you hit the power button and then unlock the phone via the screen (which is good).
However when there is an incoming call or reminder the screen turns on and then a few buttons are active on the phone (send, end and the two soft keys seem to be). So when a phone call comes in, if the phone is in your pocket or the hip case while reaching for the phone it's VERY easy to accidentally press any of the active buttons and then accidentally accept or reject that call.
I've searched everywhere I can think of and I find little mention of this problem and no mention of a fix, most screen lock replacements only do as much locking as the WM5 built in lock does. The button re-activation after an incoming call is probably something built into the hardware. That's all I can deduce from this.
Thanks for the responses I've received so far.
I am on my fourth PDA phone and have used both Win Mobile 2003 and WM5. They all behaved this way and it is one of my biggest complaints with the Windows OS. I have seen apps for Palm that solve the problem. How hard could it be to have the option to only wake with the press of the power button?!
not hard at all, but the again its M$, i am surprised these devices to have ctrl-alt-del keys.
hi, i'm having trouble getting my touch hd to lock the keypad. i've searched the forum for similar threads but cant find too much. I've followed the advice of people in other threads.
I have tried a soft reset, and a hard reset. Gone to settings changed the End Button properties. But still cant get it to lock. In the End Button i have set it to show a quick menu. On this when i click the Lock Keypad, there is a couple second delay, then the screen flashes (as if it has done something) but the keypad is still not locked.
Anyone help me out??
windstate said:
hi, i'm having trouble getting my touch hd to lock the keypad. i've searched the forum for similar threads but cant find too much. I've followed the advice of people in other threads.
I have tried a soft reset, and a hard reset. Gone to settings changed the End Button properties. But still cant get it to lock. In the End Button i have set it to show a quick menu. On this when i click the Lock Keypad, there is a couple second delay, then the screen flashes (as if it has done something) but the keypad is still not locked.
Anyone help me out??
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Not sure why your End button isn't working after you hold it down to lock.
However, you do have many other options for locking your device.
For example you can can use LockMeLite. Or use HD Tweak and set Autolock to enable so everytime your backlight goes off the device is automatically locked.
There is also various other options if you search a bit more
Seen this happen on Windows mobile phones before.
Do you happen to use a PIN code to unlock your phone?
If you do, this interferes with the screen lock facility.
Try disabling the PIN lock (Settings/Lock) and you will probably find it will then start to work.
Don't know of a way around this problem but someone else may..
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Not sure why your End button isn't working after you hold it down to lock.
However, you do have many other options for locking your device.
For example you can can use LockMeLite. Or use HD Tweak and set Autolock to enable so everytime your backlight goes off the device is automatically locked.
There is also various other options if you search a bit more
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Thanks for the advice. I will look into other applications to use on the phone.
Farsquidge said:
Seen this happen on Windows mobile phones before.
Do you happen to use a PIN code to unlock your phone?
If you do, this interferes with the screen lock facility.
Try disabling the PIN lock (Settings/Lock) and you will probably find it will then start to work.
Don't know of a way around this problem but someone else may..
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Thanks. I had a pin code thing on the phone. Took that off and the keypad lock now works! Excllent advice. You sorted out my problem. The keypad lock issue was annoying me so much that I was considering returning the phone. Now I'll be keeping it!
Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.
If i have undersood ur question correctly by completely disabling lock screen of ur future Leo, then yeah, thats possible. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
Hope that clarification helped you
It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice
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It sure did, thanks a lot I just hope that the buttons on the face of the HD2 will turn out to be as "shallow", flat and "stiff" as they look like in the vids, so that no accidental pressing of the end key while the device is in the pocket will be possible in practice
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I did not think about the accidental pressing of END key before, but this will surely worry me, atleast I get the handset myself and test it in real-life...
Well even if any accidental cliks will be happening, then the lock screen will actually come in handy
well even if the buttons get pressed somehow, the screen won't react to pressure so only buttons will work if there's no lockscreen
You're right, good point hehe I guess all of us WM fans will have to get used to capacitive screens and their advantages/disadvantages
I think there will be 2 potential risks...
1. "Send" button is pressed accidentally more than once (last dialed number will be dialed)
2. Any keys get accidentally pressed continuously (device will remain on impacting battery life)
So yet a good screen locking solution will be recommended
3. "end call/power" button pressed and hold -> device turns off (at least I think so..or is there a "confirmation screen"??) -> you don't get any incoming calls/messages/etc at all =)
Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?
In my Diamond2 (I dont use any lock screen or anything) when the screen is turned off and I press long the power button, the confirmation for powering off the device does in fact pop up, but the screen remains turned off, so its impossible to confirm the power off prompt (I see the prompt popped up when I press the pwr button once again to turn on the screen). So probably no threat from here. And even if the screen activates and the prompt for turning off the phone does come out, there's no way of confirming it in your pocket - thats the capacitive screen advantage. But the battery draining issues may occur at some scale... I guess we'll see how it all turns out in real life. The probably unavoidable problem will be if the end button would be possible to get pressed by accident - then we would be facing constant battery drainage with the lockscreen always appearing for no reason.
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Btw, if you turn off the stuff as B3ler3fonte said, would there be any locking at all? So would touchscreen etc be allways "ready" and consuming battery?
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That could help but won't much, because(at least current models) they wake up upon any reminder, battery low, call, text, etc. Besides you will have to use both hands to turn phone on (the top button, unless you got ET fingers ) HD is tall...
Cannot see that menu item
B3ler3fonte said:
. If u navigate through ur moving cursor to Settings, then Sound and Display and finally to Backlight options, there two options exist, when phone its on battery and/or External power, to either set the time limit to have the screen locked (and dim backlight of course) or to completely diselect it, which actually disables Leo to show and/or show lock screen.
Hope that clarification helped you
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Sorry but there is no setting for lockscreen in this menu. There is only settings for the backlight in battery or charged mode.
There is no control for the lockscreen at all Still looking for a way to completely disable this damned lockscreen.
Agreed - even the entry in the Settings tab that claims to control the lockscreen seems to have no impact (I have mine set to 12 hours and it completely ignores that) and the standard registry hacks don't seem to have any effect.
This is a real puzzler!
jgal said:
Hi guys!
So I'll have to wait for my preordered HD2 untill 20th November here in Poland, but watching all the preview videos, a question arose in my head. I know the device isn't out yet, but its rom builds are already flying around, so maybe someone knows the answer. Will it be possible to disable showing of the lock screen after waking up the phone with the end call/power button and the device taking you immediately to the homescreen? I'm used to that on my TD2, and I think that using the phone this way is just much faster.
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back to the original topic:
changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already
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back to the original topic:
changing the registry key: HKey_current_user/ControlPanel/Backlight/AutodevicelockEnable to value '0' (zero) works with other 6.5 roms
by default it must have seen to '1'
edit: my bad, its been solved already
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Is it solved already?? i can`t find it
mika34 said:
Is it solved already?? i can`t find it
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the clarification was made to the guy who started the thread in post 3. if thats not it then the reg change i have put it should disable/enable the lock screen if the power button is pressed
Hi. all
I have a problem, every time i listening to the music my phone unlocks-activates (like pressing the home button or power ones),
It is happening only when i listen to music, i tryied 3 different palyer (apollo, n7player, mort player), the same happened.
Does any one else have the same problem??
It's a problem for me because when i have phone in my pocket sometimes it start to select different things like call or starts some programs etc.
Can someone help? some solution
I'm on CM10 the newest
I have the same problem, i just use a pattern to unlock my phone.
Teh_Chuz said:
I have the same problem, i just use a pattern to unlock my phone.
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ya i now, but i have pattern thats why i'm asking about solution.
If anybody knows please give a feedback
Thanks.
If i remember correct there is an option somewhere in settings which says - 'volume key wakes screen' - check if thats enabled
no it isn't that, it unlocks it self with no phone touching.
today it happened in my pocket with no reason, with now app activated, by it self totally, and i called some person by misstake
Stupid bug
Strange haven't heard of any such bug yet but it'd be worth trying re flashing the rom from ground up
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That's the last thing i won to do, but if there aren't going to be any ideas then i'll do it.
For now i will wait and see.
Thanks for replay
kotu7 said:
That's the last thing i won to do, but if there aren't going to be any ideas then i'll do it.
For now i will wait and see.
Thanks for replay
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Hi! I have another very old Android phone (still with 2.2) and I have the same problem as you. I have a pattern + an app called Hidden Lock. There is a free Lite version and a paid Pro version of the app. Either of them will do the job.
The app creates for you additional lock screen. In this lock screen you have created an invisible button in a position that you only know. When you touch a button (hardware key, touch, volume rocker) or your screen unlocks, the program starts and displays "Hidden lock" message. Then you have to literally find the place on the screen where you have put your unlocking button and press it TWICE.
After that you can go to the draw pattern (android lock screen) and unlock it. This is double security for your phone - that's what I need, personally - I can't feel calm If I don't have such locker - my hardware lock key doesn't work and sometimes for now reason my phone unlocks... This is the only app that helps me.
I hope my post was helpful. Cheers!
Mine do that too, i've solved it fliping it when i carry it in my pocket, i think the touch is very sensitive and it activates when i'm walking, it sounds weird but this is the only thing that worked for me
I Sent this sitting in the WC
h4x0r007 said:
Mine do that too, i've solved it fliping it when i carry it in my pocket, i think the touch is very sensitive and it activates when i'm walking, it sounds weird but this is the only thing that worked for me
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I do the same thing, but i was just wondering if somone had the same problem and fix it in side the system not by additional lock security or by fliping it.
But thanks for your replay, i'll just hope someone from Dev people will find answer to that.