Intermittent internet connection problem - Networking

Hi folks,
I have noticed an irritating, intermittent connection problem with a couple of XDA phones I've had. Specifically, I now have an HTC Touch Pro, and most of the time the internet works fine. Sometimes though, when I try to connect, nothing happens for a very long time, and eventually an 'unable to connect' message is displayed. Usually, I use Opera 9.5, which was pre-installed. But the problem also exists if I use the standard IE and also with Skyfire too. The message is different depending on which browser I'm using of course. But if one won't connect, none of them will, so I don't think it's a problem with one of those browsers. I should point out that when the browsers do connect, they stay connected. this problem only occurs when I open the browser and it tries to connect. I did have the same problem on my previous XDA device - O2 XDA Trion. I have found that if I perform a soft-reset, the internet will then start up nice and quickly on the first attempt, which I'm guessing suggests it isn't a network problem. Does anyone else have this experience? Does anyone know what might be causing it? Of all the pieces of software I've installed, there are few, if any, that I've had installed on both devices, other than the programs which are preinstalled. The only commonality between my previous device and my current one is the OS and the SIM card.

Are you speaking about your HTC PRO Wifi connnection or the EDGE/GPRS/HSDPA connection?
I also have issues with the data line not being connected or running the way you would think. I then pop over to wifi and all is good. I normally just turn off the data connection and reconnect.
Also, do you keep the connection permanently on data mode or do you let the phone log on for you?
My theory (this happens to me sometimes too) is that my phone connects to the tower and then gets timed out because of no data activity. The phone doesn't figure it out and simply shows a connection still. Then when you try to get data the phone is confused as to why the digital connection it thought it had was no longer active.
Props to me for making up **** and having it sound 2Legit2Quit.

I am talking about my EDGE/GPRS/HSDPA connection, and, now you mention it, yes, I think wi-fi works when EDGE/GPRS/HSDPA is not working. I'm not sure about that though. I'll have a go when it happens again. Which it will, very soon, because it happens all the time. It's annoying.
Thanks for your ideas!

PS: I didn't respond to your question about data mode. I'm not really too sure what you mean by that. I didn't know there was a data mode! In the Touchflo3D settings, under communication, there is a switch labelled 'Data connection. Turn off data connection.' But if I do turn that off, it just turns it straight back on again. I'm not sure that's what you meant though.

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Data Connection Problems?

Has anyone else had the problem that you go online and surf the web then maybe a couple of hours later you launch Opera again to go online and it just hangs (the data connection not opera)?
The only way to make it connect is to turn off the data connection then it will log back on...
JetMouse said:
Has anyone else had the problem that you go online and surf the web then maybe a couple of hours later you launch Opera again to go online and it just hangs (the data connection not opera)?
The only way to make it connect is to turn off the data connection then it will log back on...
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yeh iv been getting that problem for sometime now, its frustrating, sometimes i even have to soft reset to get the data connection working. It shows that the data connection is fine and everything seems connected, but then when you try and update weather or browse the web (anything that uses data) you end up getting an error,
its very similar to the problem you get on your home broadband, your router shows its connected and your dsl and everything is active yet you get a white page on your browser and then you have to reset your router, very very frustrating, so i understand your problem exactly.
I'm wondering if this is anything to do with changing cells on your network?
When you travel to a different cell location although the network says you are still connected (and you can still send/receive calls) the data network has actually dropped and needs refreshing?
I suppose what we are after is a program that can refresh the data network every few mins - don't know if this is possible though?
Here in Germany o2 has a problem with the Qualcomm Chipset. I also have hanging connections. A workaround is to disable HSDPA. Maybe you have the same problem?
same problem here (also o2 Germany)
the 3G icon is there and the bubble says there is a connection for x minutes but opera or google maps mobile report a missing connection after a short time of usage. i have to kill the connection manually and after the connection is reestablished it works again for few minutes...... this is so frustrating...
GPRS
Same problem in Czech republic with O2 provider.
At this moment I found as a fastest way to switch off and on the radio.
I'm using most of the time GPRS connection and this problem is about two times per day so reconnection every day two times is really annoying.
Hopefully somebody will find solution soon...
My problem is slightly different. Sometimes (after using Opera or not) I try to refresh weather and it says "refreshing" but the data connection won't connect (it shows antenna, no arrows with H or 3G). I must then soft reset the PDA to make it work. Any solutions or similar experiences?
Blackstone data connection problems
I have been getting the same problem for sometime now, it is very frustrating, I always have to soft reset to get the data connection working. It shows that the data connection is fine and everything seems connected, but then when you try and update weather or browse the web (anything that uses data) you end up getting an error.
I try to refresh weather and it says "refreshing" but the data connection won't connect (it shows antenna, no arrows with H or 3G). I must then soft reset the PDA to make it work.
I am also wondering if this problem is limited to Blackstone (HTC Touch HD) or extends to HD2 also?
I have noticed that no one ahs posted any solution.
Comeon senior guys PLEASE help us out here.
Many thanks in advance.
Kam2kam, question, What rom are you using, and are you using activesync? If so, have you downloaded any email attachments? I was having the same problem where a couple of times a day I would have to soft reset. The connection would look fine, but if you tried to update anything or browse the net you were met with an error. It was frustrating. I finally narrowed the issue down to activesync and the new manila documents tab. My theory was that when I downloaded an attachment to view in the documents tab activesync would continue to sync the attachment each time it polled for new mail. Since activesync is often slow to sync attachments, my connection to the VPN would timeout before it could finish syncing causing the dreaded "waiting for network". My thought was my VPN connection would freeze thereby preventing my carrier internet from being able to connect; since, at least for me, you cannot have two different data session running simultaneously, i.e. VPN connection and the carrier's connection. The only cure was to soft reset. Ultimately what I did was hunt down any and all email attachments that I had dowloaded, and deleted them all. Since then my data connection went from freezing up twice a day to zero times a day and it's now been over two weeks.
You may not have the same set up as I do, but perhaps there may be something similar going on.
I hope that helps a bit.

Sudden issues with internet connectivity.

So to start with, I did use search
I have my HD with T-Mobile. Everything was working fine for months, until a few days ago.
I'm able to connect to the internet, however after 1-2 seconds, it seems like my phone stops sending/recieving data. Internet connection is still listed as active, yet the pages won't load etc, hitting refresh doesn't do anything.
Worth noting, most of the time, I don't get any errors in Opera, it just stops loading a page after 1-2 seconds. (It's the same with IE and every other online app) Sometimes I get 'ERROR - Could not locate remote server' in Opera.
Internet works fine over WLAN.
I can't link it to any software/rom. When it first happened, I've used Duttys 2.5, now switched to 2.9 and the problem persists. Also tried different Radios, different connection settings etc.
Any ideas ?
Volw said:
So to start with, I did use search
I have my HD with T-Mobile. Everything was working fine for months, until a few days ago.
I'm able to connect to the internet, however after 1-2 seconds, it seems like my phone stops sending/recieving data. Internet connection is still listed as active, yet the pages won't load etc, hitting refresh doesn't do anything.
Worth noting, most of the time, I don't get any errors in Opera, it just stops loading a page after 1-2 seconds. (It's the same with IE and every other online app) Sometimes I get 'ERROR - Could not locate remote server' in Opera.
Internet works fine over WLAN.
I can't link it to any software/rom. When it first happened, I've used Duttys 2.5, now switched to 2.9 and the problem persists. Also tried different Radios, different connection settings etc.
Any ideas ?
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Maybe it's a network issue. Do you have a sim card for another network you could try?
trice1921 said:
Maybe it's a network issue. Do you have a sim card for another network you could try?
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Yeah, I tried. Same thing.
Any more ideas?
It's really wired, I rolled back to old HTC stock rom (still the same issue), installed stock 1.56 again ... and it's working. I have no idea what was the issue, especially considering how many times I've flashed it before and it was always there.
Oh well, I'm happy
Scratch that, forgot that the HD uses my PCs connection when plugged in.
So, it still doesn't work. Think I'll write to HTC, or is there anything else I could try doing?
Have you tried calling someone when you have the problems? After a couple of weeks-months a lot of people seem to have connectivity problems. I've sent mine back and hope to have it back soon!
I have this problem all the time for a week now. Everything but 3G internet works fine.
I did install SPB Wireless monitor yesterday, to check how is the data transfer.
Running the browser, hitting refresh each time, downloaded about 2KB of data (on average). (Same on both, 3 and T-Mobile)
Then, I've left youtube app and browser on - after about 40 minutes, it managed to download most of the youtube app start page and most of one of the pages I've opened with the browser. Data rate was highly random, often not downloading anything for a couple of minutes. In total, it was about 1.1 MB.
Then, after those 40 minutes - it didn't download anything any more for another hour or so. After that (the connection was still active), I've refreshed the browser and tried to load a different tab in youtube app, but for another hour or so no data was transferred.
did you install a new radio? and ifso did you also install the corosponding rilphone.dll?? maybe you can use hd tweak and set the data connection you use to always on. this works fine for me
Yeah, I tried a few radios (with dlls). Didn't help.
Data connection stays on, for hours. (without tweaking, which I find kind of strange).
As I said before, it's not an issue with disconnecting. Connection stays on, yet data is not being downloaded properly.
which data plan are you using?
Also can you navigate here and see if this is like your problem (post 22 and down):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=479403&page=3
Thanks
It's web'n'walk. (uk)
However, it's certainly not an issue with t-mobile, as it works exactly the same on '3' as well.
I'm running out of ideas here really. Seems like no one so far (including HTC tech support) had the same issue.
I think the only possibility is, that it is hardware related somehow.
Hi Volw, did you find a fix for this? This is happening to my bosses phone.
Hi... is it my impression or is you Touch HD's behaviour similar to this ?
Sorry for the link, but didn't want to repost...
I think you're not alone!
Have you tried a hard reset? In my case it solved until I disconnected from my home network again!
I hope I can help (so little) in detect the specific circumstances in which the error occurs....
My solution, since I had mine for less than 30 days was going to the shop where I bought mine, swaped for a brand new one and I kept for the firmware that came from factory... didn't flash for the current official rom (cooked roms are out of the question for now - with all do respect) and I'm very very reluctant in flashing my new TouchHD. I even flashed the first unit twice but I kept having the same problem.
Now I'm affraid of flashing this one and going back to the shop with a second phone in the same condition...
Still with the installed firmware from factory (previous from the current oficial) I still get a few minutes for it to "see" the active HSDPA connection after disconnecting Wifi!
Sorry if i deviated a bit from subject... just trying to help.
Regards,
MD
I have exactly the same issue. I've had my HD for about 6 weeks and the Wifi has always worked fine with my home network. But then suddenly one day last week it stopped working.
It's still connected, but no data is being transferred. I can't update the weather or browse the web.
I've tried playing with all the settings and connected to my neigbours unsecured wifi network, but still nothing works.
This is particularly annoying because data is not part of my contract, so wifi was my only way downloading files, updating things etc.
Anyone had any luck solving the issue yet?
Volw said:
So to start with, I did use search
I have my HD with T-Mobile. Everything was working fine for months, until a few days ago.
I'm able to connect to the internet, however after 1-2 seconds, it seems like my phone stops sending/recieving data. Internet connection is still listed as active, yet the pages won't load etc, hitting refresh doesn't do anything.
Worth noting, most of the time, I don't get any errors in Opera, it just stops loading a page after 1-2 seconds. (It's the same with IE and every other online app) Sometimes I get 'ERROR - Could not locate remote server' in Opera.
Internet works fine over WLAN.
I can't link it to any software/rom. When it first happened, I've used Duttys 2.5, now switched to 2.9 and the problem persists. Also tried different Radios, different connection settings etc.
Any ideas ?
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Hi guys, I had exact the same problem.
I'm on O2 Germany network and figured out, that when disabling HSDPA and only using 3G I never had that problem anymore.
I mean although I had full HSDPA connection, Opera was sometimes able to load the Websites, but most of the time the loading failed (mostly the first page load was ok, but all other calls ended in a blank screen, or the "Could not locate remote server"...). This is pretty strange and I would love to use the HSDPA connection again, but for now disabling HSDPA is the only solution for me
greetz giniman
EDIT: I had this behaviour with the stock ROM and also with Dutty's V3.3 which I'm running right now. What I was thinking is, that maybe the auto switching between GPRS/3G/HSDPA is damaging the connection???
HTC HD / Blackstone connection issue
I have the same problem in SG - Opera does not load web page some times, even when the 3G/HSDPA icon is flashing on the top bar, and that the Data Connection in CommMgr is showing green.
I have to click on the Data Connection in CommMgr again (which will not go off), and the connection back up again.
These happen to other internect connectivity as well. Usually happen in the first connection (of each app) to the internet after I restart the phone.

Wi-Fi connectivity issues

I am experiencing a couple of annoying issues with my new HTC HD2. Most of which seems to have coincided with my old O2 number being ported over to T-Mobile. Prior to this I had a temporary number and all settings seemed to work ok (although frankly I cannot recall to be sure). Once the number was ported everything went a bit mental, I could not connect to any internet app via Wi-Fi and various searches boiled this down to an erroneous proxy server setting which once removed resolved my problem. I also had an email issue which I partially resolved by deleting my account and setting it up again from scratch. The two issues I am now left with are a bit odd.
When connected via Wi-Fi neither ie6 nor email will connect - it seems to be that neither of these applications will fallback to wi-fi if there is no mobile coverage/connectivity. To clarify, I have deliberately turned my phone radio off to test it purely with wi-fi - with both apps I get the "cannot connect" message where it prompts me to check that mobile service is available and I am not in flight mode etc. So clearly it is not willing to use wi-fi even though it is connected and I can use Opera with no issues - this does not seem to impact any other application. I wonder if there is a registry issue that is stopping them from using wifi.
I can get round this temporarily if I go into settings>all settings>connections>connections>advanced>select networks and then change "programs that automatically connect to the Internet should connect using:" from "T-mobile Internet" to "My Work Network" however this only reverses the issue i.e. they then work with wi-fi but not on mobile internet (with the added issue that all other internet apps will no longer working on mobile internet) - so this is hardly a satisfactory resolution.
I have had a bash with various other settings but nothing seems to work - has anyone else experienced this issue?
is the option "the internet"available? that would make the app use whatever connection is available to the phone.
as far as the number being ported starting this I'd be tempted to backup and hard reset.let the phone pick up the sim with the new settings from fresh.
Thanks for the prompt response. I have checked other options and whilst there are others none of them are configured. The fact that other applications happily work under either wifi or mobile internet would seem to imply it is just these applications that are being a bit obtuse rather than any of the connectivity settings.
I guess I may have to hard reset - although I am not convinced that the SIM would govern connectivity settings of microsoft applications.
Just noticed QuickGPS does the same thing i.e. will only connect through mobile internet - it complains it cannot connect if I try through wi-fi only.
bl**dy hell - Google Maps does not work now either!!!!!!!!!
lol, one problem breeding others, it's a "feature" hehe.
Ok i'll shut up now.............did a hard reset and all seems good for the moment at least. Frankly I clearly should have bowed to your better judgement LOL
sometimes its the best first thing to try. once you have done a few they only take 20 30 minutes, you can spend hours with network problems.

Data Connection Always Connected

I am not sure if this is even a problem, but before today my data connection to t-mobile would only connect when needed. For instance, if I was home then I would be connected to wifi and my data connection would turn off by itself, but would still connect if needed by a program, or whatever, that can't use wifi but needed the data connection instead. Like when I sent a MMS message for example. Then after the message was sent or whenever the program was done with the data connection then it would automatically disconnect where I would continue to use the wifi connection. Also, if I left the house then I would automatically be switched to the data connection as the wifi signal went out of range.
This is the way I liked it. Today it had changed the way it behaves. Now, the data connection stays on no matter what and I have to manually turn it off in the comm manager. Also, everytime the screen turns off and the device goes into sleep mode, or whatever you call it, the data connection automatically turns backs on while it is sleeping. For example, when I go to sleep I press the red hang up button to put it in sleep mode then I go to sleep. When I wake up in the morning the data connection is on and when I go to turn it off it shows it has been connected for however long I was asleep for.
Like I said I am not sure if this is a big deal or not, I just don't want to be charged for going over the data cap for some reason. And I am not sure if maybe there is a program in the background that might not be showing up in the task manager and is downloading data that will eventually cost me when it goes over the cap.
Now I know that certain things automatically connect to download data like mail, weather, stocks, twitter, etc., but I always thought that they could use a wifi connection if available. And if not then I know for sure that it used to at least disconnect the data connection after it was done.
I am basically asking if this is normal because it used to not be like this on my phone and if it is something I need to.be worried about? Also, if anyone knows how to change it back to the way it used to be? I would greatly appreciate it if you let me know how to do it.
Thanks,
Michael
Anyone?
All I want to know is if it is normal to always have the data connection on. So does anyone else experience this? The data connection seems to reconnect by itself everytime the phone goes in standby and stays connected until I manually disconnect it.
Thanks,
Michael
Hey I just happen to have similar problem with the data connection turning on by itself when I check email on my wifi.
If you goto comm manager - menu - connections - advanced
Under "select which networks are automatically" - select networks
Change the connection type under "programs that automatically connect to the internet..." to your wifi connection from "t-mobile data."
Seems to work for me at the moment anyways. It's not connecting automatically to data connection when I check my emails.
Hi Michael.
It's actually the default behavior for the data connection to stay on once it's activated, until it's switched off manually. You won't pass significantly more data that way than if you just turned it off right after whatever app(s) are doing using it...the only downside to leaving it on is the speed at which it drains the battery.
There are some users who choose to leave it on, just to avoid the delay when they want to use it, and there's probably tons more who don't even have any idea you might want to turn it off when not in use.
Now I could swear there's a cab floating around here somewhere that will shut off the data connection once it sits idle for 60 seconds, but I didn't turn it up in a casual search the other day, so I can't point you to it right now
As for the apps using wifi when it's available instead of calling up a data connection, every one you mentioned should do that, and those all behave that way for me...so maybe there's something else you haven't thought of yet that ignores wifi when it connects to update or whatever. I would start by turning off auto updating for any and all of those services you listed, and see if the issue persists. If so, you'll need to dig deeper to find the culprit. Do you have microsoft myphone connecting to backup maybe? That seems to ignore wifi on my phone, I'm sure there's other apps that do as well.
Today it actually quit doing it for some reason. So I have no idea why it did that for awhile. Now I read that some people were having the opposite problem, which was that they couldn't get their connection to stay on. Now, this is actually the way I want it. Oh well, I hope it stays this way now.
Thanks for your help,
Michael

WiFi problems

Hello! I have some annoying problems with wifi.
1. Sometimes network that i want to connect to, is simply listed as "Not in range". Turning wifi off and on usually fix that.
2. Sometimes network is detected, but phone won't automatically connect to it (it will just show Remembered at the network and disconnected at the top). I have to manually click on the network and select Connect. After that phone will eventually connect to the network, but it will take much longer than normal.
These issues are resolvable manually, but it's annoying. I want my phone to automatically connect after i just turn on wifi.
Any ideas, what could be wrong? Does maybe have to do something with SuperPower program that i have installed?
My specs are in the signature. Similar issues were also happening with RAFDROID HD 1.0 and darkstone's Froyo SuperRAM.
3. Sometimes when browsing the web or watching youtube videos, phone will simply disconnect and one of the above issues will occur. So no automatic reconnect.
Also i forgot to mention that in issue 1, phone don't see any network, not just mine.
Please help, it's very annoying.
Bump. Anyone?
This issue is annoying as i have to reboot my phone frequently to fix this.

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