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SMS: contacts group, distribution list, categories... NO ?

I can't imagine I just got the latest toy and the whole thing made a step backwards...
I cannot send an SMS to a specific group of people among my contacts if not choosing each of them one by one each time...
I have many different group of people I send SMS' to and I was used to have lists on SmartSMS while using a SmartPhone and also distribution lists and categories on Outlook while at the desk...
With Wizard it seems there are no solutions... I have tried almost all of the trial SMS managers out there, but it seems I have no luck...
I've spent the last two days looking for a solution (either within WM5 or as an addon...). No luck...
Do you have any hint ?
Is there anyone wishing to develop something like above explained ?
Thank you very much...
Best regards...
Mix

Yeah, im also intressted in sending sms to a group.

Me too, plz let me know if you find some solution...

for a OS of such quality it is an appalling lapse by MS
We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??

Re: for a OS of such quality it is an appalling lapse by MS
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We should all email them a support question and ask them if it will be included in the next release??
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I've tried a little bit to use InfoSharp to send SMS to contacts within a category (fortunately there is such chance on this small and nice program...). The program itself is not yet "finished" but it does the job...
I'll post my suggestion to the developer, hoping that growing, it will become better.
About sending our comments to Microsoft: well, I personally think it would be nice, but it would be nicer if our suggestions could be "understood" in any way. It seems to me this rarely happens.
Not to mention the function I'm looking for was present in WM2003SE !!!
Maybe too many shrimps are eaten within MS... ;-)
Ciao
Mix
P.S. Actually ANY SUGGESTION on this matter would help, as it seems there still is not solution...

Hi guys have found an app for sending sms by category group
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk

SimplySMS mobile 5 will be released in the new year.
good news

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peteborota said:
The app is called 'simplysms' and is developed by a company called visual IT.
It's not windows 5 compatible at the moment although I am waiting for a response from the developers.
I'll keep people posted.
Website: www.visualit.co.uk
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Is seems they have no plans developing any WM5 version of such program, otherwise something would have appeared on their website...
I think then there is no other option to keep a Nokia phone in my pocket too... but then I don't need an HTC pocket PC... I can run with another one with no phone functions as I did in the past...
Any other news ???
Ciao

It is very helpful utility if we can find it
if we can have such an application it will be very greate

SimplySMS for windows 5 will be launched in March
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.

Re: SimplySMS for windows 5 will be launched in March
peteborota said:
Had an email from Visualit the makers of simplysms. They will be releasing a windows mobile 5 version of the software in March this year.
It will allow users to send a text to a outlook category of contacts.
Hold on it's round the corner.
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march ? March ? MARCH ???
It's on next century !!! I'll have switched to another phone by that date...
I'll have to wait then, but I'm looking around for another solution... pretty tired of hand-choosing between my contacts...
Thanks a lot anyway... the fault is not yours... it's MS' first of all...
Ciao

You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
Will prompt the messaging app with a new message. If you last used Hotmail/whatever, though - it won't start a new text message, but a new e-mail/whatever.
If you want to be able to pick the account, use instead:
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx"
If you want to add a default message, use :
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
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You can also use vijay555's VJSMS to always send a text message, regardless of what account you're in.
32#"\Program Files\vijay555\VJSMS.exe" "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -body "Text here"
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
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Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.

ZeBoxx said:
You could create a shortcut with the recipients pre-listed. E.g.
Text message colleagues.lnk
32#"tmail.exe" -to "06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx; 06xxxxxxx" -service ""
[...omissis...]
Essentially, all the above are more like 'templates' than they are group text message tools. If you have a new person you want to add to a 'group', you'll have to manually adjust the shortcut.
On the other hand - it's available now, and freely.
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Thank you very much for the helpful hint... the main problem anyway is always the same: I use distribution lists so I don't have to bother on updates of contacts details. I just keep them updated and I have the result.
There is anyway a major problem on the hint you just gave me: line limitation...
WM5 accepts for example multiple recipients on the "To:" field but the problem is I still do not know which is the maximum number (I suppose it depends on how long the "To:" field can be, maybe max 255 char.).
The same problem applies to your hint: I suppose there is still the limitation of 255 chars... or not ? ;-)
Thanks anyway.

yeah, I have no idea what the maximum length is
Of course, for Dutch numbers, 10 chars length, 11 if I include that semicolon, that's still 25 numbers Sending an SMS to 25 people should be more than enough for me
You could also write a mort script to call VJSMSSend a gazillion times :>
The former issue is the bigger one - I hate updating lists, myself. There shouldn't be anything holding developers back from implementing mailing lists, using info from the contacts POOM, and setting up SMS's (setting up and sending an SMS is a MSDN example, so.. pff)
I'm no developer, though - I just managed to get "Hello world" running a few days ago, and then I got sick - so no long computer times for me

SMS Distribution Lists
Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
Regards
Jass

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jasvinder said:
Having Upgraded to a qtek 9100 from a nokia 9300 communicator for better windows/outlook compatibility etc, I have been searching for something to fill the gap for SMS Distribtion lists.
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Welcome in the "unsatisfied club"...
I understand from reading other posts than previous versions of Windows mobile did offer this, aswell as being able to play different ringtones depending on chich caller group a call was originating from.
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I have never seen, nor in previous versions, a real "group" as we were used with Nokias...
Some thirdy party programs do that anyway (and it's good enough such programs exists...).
Has there been any new information on SMS Distribution lists for the HTC Wizard phones?
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Unfortunately, no... I have been looking around for a lot of time and finally I found a solution: I kept a Nokia 6230 in my bag, just for this kind of use...
I know, it's stupid... but much more less stupid than preventing me using this feature on a WM5 device !!!
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Different approach: select the contact you need to send the SMS to and select "Send new SMS" from the options. You'll have the editor opening with the "To:" field already filled...
Hope this helps a little...
Ciao

Re: SMS Distribution Lists
jasvinder said:
Also, is there any way to actually just select "send new txt message" rather than go to messaging and browse to the correct account/ folder to achieve this?
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Download the attached file, extract the included shortcut to your PPC, and run it - see if that works for you. If it does, you'll note that there's "to" and "body" fields that you can fill out if you want (e.g. a pre-composed message to your boss saying that you'll be on your lunch break)
For some more advanced SMS stuff, try VJPhoneTools:
http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJPhoneTools
Or one of the many commercial SMS apps

The download when unzipped only contains a shortcut which is not valid.
CAn we download it from your website?

it's supposed to only contain a shortcut
Code:
32#windows\tmail.exe -service "SMS" -to "" -body ""
If you don't have a "tmail.exe" in your device's "Windows" folder, then indeed it's probably invalid. Try searching for that file on your device, see if it's elsewhere. If it's not, or you can't find it, just use one of VJ's tools instead

Group sms
O2SMSPlus is out and about, it's for wm5 and does group sms.

Multi SMS ?

Is there a program or a way to send sms to multiple contacts or grouped contacts with qtek 9100 (HTC Wizard)?
is it possible with poketinformant?
WM5 doesn't support this option that was supported by windows MObile 2003...
Please help

There MUST be a way to send an sms to more than one person. We had this feature 1000 phones ago so it must be there.

Jeyo Mobile Extende
Here
http://www.jeyo.com/extender.asp

What are you kidding? Simple!
Put your cursor in the "To:" box and click menu (right soft button) and Add Recipient.
Select the name. Repeat as needed for as many contacts as you want.
Alternatively add the numbers manually seperated by a ; just like you would in an Email.
Lewis

sorry! what i need is a group sending... with my old magician i select in one shot ten or more contacts then i sent my sms. now with newest 9100 i must select contact one by one :-( :-(

I don't know of any program to do this, but it would be easy to store lists of names in a note then copy and paste them into the TO section as and when. Not exactly 'group sending' at its best but does the job...

Hi,
I need too... Is great for Christmas and New Year!
Idea is write sms and then select multiple recipients from contacts in one shot (by active each contact).
Anybody know?
Thanks

Visual IT are bring out an upgrade to their Simply SMS
This will allow users to send an sms to a group of people grouped under a category.
here's the link, keep an eye out for it in the new year.
http://www.visualit.co.uk/PocketPC/simplesms.htm

Hi, Peteborota,
Thanks, but not work with a PDA phone (Qtek 9100) and with WM5!
Searching....

I use TapText by Dinarsoft for occasions like this. Like Hazymat said, but instead of using notepad, i use taptext to store groups of emails. Tap on TapText icon on the top bar to access.
Works with Wisbar Advanced running too. You got to deactivate program icon and make an icon in WA2 to activate TapText. Works really well with WM5. But storing group emails are part of it, i use it to store anything which i need to use frequently. It is commercialware tho.

ARP they will be releasing a WM5 version in the new year
Spoke to their support desk, they hope to release early jan.
Book mark the site and keep looking.
Cheers.

Thanks Swampy, TapText is great!
But I need a app that can send an SMS to many recipients by hightlight each one, in one shot.
Anybody know one?
Tanks

Palm Messaging app

The Palm Messaging app from the Treo 750v is cool.
It's even cooler on the TyTN.
EDIT: This file has been removed from the FTP site, Please do not upload it again.
Palm claims this is in conflict with their Intellectual Property rights.
Thanks,
Flar (the admin)

Is this the threaded SMS app? That'll be cool if it is. Any screenshots yet? Thanks again
*edit*
HAHAHA it is the threaded sms app!!! Awesome find

very nice... it would be even better if we could maintain the messaging app's hard button functionality (i.e. be able to push it repeatably to toggle between this app and the standard inbox app).
thanks for sharing!!

Does this play well with Push Email feature? Second the motion for PICS
Thanks!

Thanks for the APP..
Ok...yes I am a loser....!
Any chance the cab can incorporate the registry changes, (MMS1 to MMS1old)...or was it left out b/c people may wish to leave the message there as well?
I get nervous on the regedit side...
Thanks, and if not...no problem.

All the changes are already in the cab as far as I can tell. I'm not in front of a PDA...
V

Wow! Is this done independently of hannip's ROM dump? Cool! Thanx theloanranger!
I'm looking forward to use this on my Pocket Loox T830 (when I get it).
Screenshots from those who already installed it please?

Wow, I look away for 2 seconds and someone already did it!
Awesome!

ahhhh! thank you! I knew it would only be a matter of time til someone got this...I'm using it on my 700wx and it is the shiz-nit!

pretty friggin' awesome! Works great!

i tried it on Windows Mobile 5.0 Smartphone, and not surprisingly, it doesn't work too well. it installs fine, but when running keeps generating exceptions in device.exe and gwes.exe. also, the UI does not work well because it's designed for Pocket PC. again, no surprise, but in case any smartphone users are tempted to try it, consider yourself warned.
kudos to whoever got it to work on a Pocket PC though!

MMS gateway and such for verizon
Any one have the settings to get mms working for verizon on this? Thanks in advance

Mmmmm, the lovely Treo 650 messaging is back.
Everything works fine on my TyTN. There is only two minor issues. First one is about desconnecting after sending a MMS. I have to do it manually. Any idea?
The other one has been posted before: I cannot set the Palm messaging to the hard button... although I've sourrounded this using SBSH iLauncher. I've assigned PalmMSG to one of the iLauncher's QuickLaunch icons and this one to the hard button.

Sprint PCS MMS settings also..
I tried putting in the settings I did to originally get the MMS working on my sprint ppc6700, but the settings are not working here. Any ideas?

Some help please..
I tried to look for the following using resco and phm and i can't seem to find the following that was included with the instructions
- Now you've done that, navigate using the registry editor to HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Svc and rename the MMS1 key to MMS1.old, and the SMS key to SMS.old. This will prevent the standard app displaying SMS and MMS.
Any help is appreciated! and btw this on a treo 700wx

lol I don't have anyone who can send me a MMS So I don't know if it works or not, lol. But I love this app

this app works beautifully on my MDA! I love it! I have been waiting for this app. I used a program similar to this on the RAZR. I loved it.

Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?

Guys, I've written a new app, VJSlippyPalm, to toggle between the Palm Messaging App and the normal Inbox.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280282
V

malatesta said:
Screenshots are found here:
http://discussion.treocentral.com/showpost.php?p=1106882&postcount=15
NOTE: Some of us are having issues. We CANNOT send an SMS to an email address. We get an error message:
"Could not send message. The message center number or the email center number is invalid. Please contact the wireless operator."
Now, in the SMS app, if you go to Menu --> Options --> Advanced tab
Network Configuration/Manual/Edit...
You'll see spots for "message center number" and "email center number" and both are blank. When you put in a number (such as found here: http://www.smsfre.com/SMS-Mesaging-Centers.htm ) they do not stick after hitting "OK".
Any help/ideas?
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Have you tried entering this mcn / ecn at the registry?

multiple SMS/MMS recipients

Does anyone know of a quick way to select multiple SMS/MMS recipients (instead of having to insert each contact individually) under Windows Mobile 2003 for Smartphones (2nd edition)? I’m fairly certain this can’t be done through the OS itself and so I’m assuming some third-party software will be required (this is fine).
Symbian Series 60 implements this perfectly. When composing an SMS/MMS it presents your contact list and allows you to check off those whom you want to receive the message. Then, after you’ve chosen those recipients, it walks you through all of them and if a contact has more than one number it presents you with those numbers and lets you choose which to use. The entire process is very fluid and you get the sense that there isn’t a more efficient way to go about it. Indeed, I couldn’t come up with a faster method (though the ability to specify a “default” message number would obviate the need to choose which number to use).
Quote: http://justinblanton.com/2005/01/send-multiple-smsmms-on-windows-mobile

Hi!
I've made a small application that sends SMS messages to the Outlook groups. I can make a new version where you can choose what ever contacts you want...I'll keep you posted....
http://www.shubaroo.com/index.php?module=group_sms
Best regards
Øystein

Can you please test this and give me some feedback on how it works.........? I've only tested it on a HTC Artemis.
http://www.shubaroo.com/GroupSMS_v1.3.CAB
Øystein

t0flus said:
Can you please test this and give me some feedback on how it works.........? I've only tested it on a HTC Artemis.
http://www.shubaroo.com/GroupSMS_v1.3.CAB
Øystein
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How do you add a group?

Google for mcc Mass message

I'm using the build in "Categories" in Outlook.
Open a Contact and edit it.
Browse down to the "Categories"
Create a new Category.
Øystein

Works great! I've tested it on a HTC Artemis.

Works great on Qtek S200. Thanks.

t0flus said:
Can you please test this and give me some feedback on how it works.........? I've only tested it on a HTC Artemis.
http://www.shubaroo.com/GroupSMS_v1.3.CAB
Øystein
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Works very well on Universal (o2 exec). Will it be possible to have a scroll bar in the contact list. Presently it scrolls only with the down key not a major issue though.

On my Artemis I've got a horisontal scrollbar at the bottom. On WM 5.0 Pocket PC's you can also use the left\right arrow keys. You can also browse the contacts with the keyboard keys...
Try downloading the nevest version, I believe I fixed the scrollbar issue in v1.3.
Øystein

t0flus said:
On my Artemis I've got a horisontal scrollbar at the bottom. On WM 5.0 Pocket PC's you can also use the left\right arrow keys. You can also browse the contacts with the keyboard keys...
Try downloading the nevest version, I believe I fixed the scrollbar issue in v1.3.
Øystein
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Thanks a lot. Please keep up the good work!

Great little app! Now I can notify my complete mailing list with text messages as well

I have threaded SMS application. Would there be a conflict if I installed this program??
Thanks
Ammar

Never tried the "threaded SMS" application so I don't know the answer to your question...
All GroupSMS does is to start the buildt in messaging application and set multiple receivers in the "To" field.
Øystein

Just installed and looks good. One question.... Any way you can add a counter on the number of recipients selected?
Thanks for a great util!

HD2 COMPLETE HTML EMAIL viewing by default in GMAIL and/or HOTMAIL...?

I'm sure we all want to have the option of looking at our emails in full HTML format by default on our HD2's. Does anyone know how to configure this option. A registry tweak would be nice.
Using the following route for GMAIL you can change your account settings to show 'The Entire Message' and download 'All attachments' by default by still doesn't give the solution we need.
Instructions :-
Go to the Inbox of any account
-> click on the menu key (right soft)
-> on the pop-up menu, select Tools>Options...
-> choose an account to edit
We need an expert on the case! Please.......................

Would it explain why accents don't display ?

Basically, I had an iPhone before and when I received an email, the entire message was downloaded. Pictures & text etc. and you were able to scroll about the entire message without any issues or having to do anything else to gain access to the rest of the email.
On the HD2, I have managed to get the majority of the message downloaded but still not "internet Pictures" are allowed to be downloaded and you have to push another option to scroll right if the email is quite large.
I know that Safari is a different program and not affected by malware and such like but I would like something similar on the HD2.
Are there any tweaks or CABs to fix this???
Thanks

I have been looking for a fix for this since I got my HD2 but it seems that there is no fix.
This is the main thing that is anoying me about this phone (Even more than the sms issue) I cant belive there is not 1 person on here that can hack this and let us download everything by default.
Anyway there is a HUGE donation for anyone who can do this!!
Regards,
Adam Rees

Someone else RAGING about the same things I am!
I think hell just froze over. The 1.6x ROM was pretty good in comparison to the 1.48 ROM. When that is officially been released then texting will be better.
BsB tweaks 1.6 will solve the texting issue till then. It has for me (for the most part).
Tim

Yup this annoyed me on the Touch HD also. There must be a registry setting somewhere that will enable the automatic download of pictures for html messages by default. Although this would mean spammers could potentially validate your email if the spam hits your inbox.

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Are you serious?
Last year Safari was the second most-vulnerable browser (after FireFox), and most of those vulnerabilities targeted the iPhone version.