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Video Teleconferencing on Cingular UMTS

After reading all the posts about this particular topic. Well I work as an authorized agent for Cingular and made a call to the network engineer for Central Florida. After talking with him about UMTS I asked about Cingular's UMTS network and video teleconferencing. His response was that Cingular's UMTS network is currently capable of video teleconferencing and explained to me that during one of the training courses they brought in the Ericsson team that is responsible for the UMTS network build out and they were performing video teleconferencing on Cingular's UMTS. He said that the only caveat was that both people on the call have to have phones that support video teleconferencing.

I dont think that's true .. Cingular doesnt support video conferencing right now .. from what folks have said .. it wont until HSUPA as the upload speeds are very less right now ..

gravejoker said:
I dont think that's true .. Cingular doesnt support video conferencing right now .. from what folks have said .. it wont until HSUPA as the upload speeds are very less right now ..
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It may be. I just got my info from a Cingular Network Engineer and the lead on the Ericsson team that is upgrading the network. According to them they are launching UMTS and HSPDA at the same time, verified by and article in RCR wireless news.

As I was waiting for a flight from PBI, I sat next a network engineer from Cingular, besides disscussing how the network is configured and stuff like that, he mentioned that my TyTN could video teleconference aslong as the person I am teleconferencing with also has a TyTN.
He played with my TyTN for a bit and was actually impressed at the speeds that I was getting from dslreports.
Dan

Alright then, lets try it. PM me with your phone number or however you want to do it and we can give it a try. I want to know if its the network or just 8525 that does not support it.
Later, Lew

The 3G network on Cingular is definitely HSPDA (at least in my area). I also can say that videoconferencing is something Cingular definitely will roll out. I assume the reason they didn't put the front cam on the 8525 is because they didn't want customers asking questions about a service that was not yet implemented (even if it is already possible).
I'm using the original shipping 8525 rom on my Hermes. Is there a different Rom that would support the videoconferencing, even if I have to use the regular camera on the backside of the phone?

djaladin said:
I assume the reason they didn't put the front cam on the 8525 is because they didn't want customers asking questions about a service that was not yet implemented (even if it is already possible).
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You mean like the PTT button

lewcamino said:
Alright then, lets try it. PM me with your phone number or however you want to do it and we can give it a try. I want to know if its the network or just 8525 that does not support it.
Later, Lew
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The Cingular branded 8525 HERM100 does not support video conferencing as it lacks the camera and possible the software required to run it.
The TyTN does support video conferencing as it has both the camera and software needed to run it.
Dan

I just tried it with a guy that PMed me and it failed instatnly, just as I though t it would. We both have TyTNs.
Later, Lew

Don't know if it's the same in US, but in Australia you have to have Video Confrencing enabled on your mobile account (Vodafone doesn't by default). Until I had our Vodafone rep do this we couldn't connect any video calls, once done we could.

Cingular's network is HSDPA out of the gates. That being said, I believe that you also need central switching gear to connect the calls as I don't believe its peer-peer.

No Video Calls with Trinity?

I have a Trinity and my phone provider is vodafone Germany. I tried everything to get a Video call to work but it just doesn't work. I have the 3g symbol on the display all the time and I live in Cologne which has UMTS everywhere. But if I call a number (my wifes number same provider and standing next to me so she has UMTS too) it seems as it should be ringing at the other end but it doesn't even ring there ...
Did anyone manage to make a video call with the trinity?

I HAVE THE SAME problem... I was thinking was signal problem.... but....
btw I can't send and receive mms too )))

Video Call and MMS works on mine =)

Works here...
video calling works with mine (O2, UK)
Lee

... And it works for me to Hehe!

Guybrush said:
Video Call and MMS works on mine =)
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you are on vodafone italy?

capzicco said:
I HAVE THE SAME problem... I was thinking was signal problem.... but....
btw I can't send and receive mms too )))
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I couldnt send mms too. so i completely resetted (hard reset) and followed the vodafone mms instructions. Now it works. But still no video call.

Still no video calls on german vodafone?
so no one has managed to make a video call with the trinity on vodafone germany?

Today I made my first video call with T-Mobile Netherlands, so it does work.

still no video calls
I tried with my trinity with several vodafone germany cards and it does not work. It seems my device is defective.

Tried it last week with a video-call to my brother (he using a SE K800i on Orange), and it seems to work great Had to change the dial-pad back to the default HTC one though, cause the M$ one doesn't show the buttons to initiate a video-call

i have made a videocall with t-mobile nl, but the other person did not see me.. i could see him on my screen., and myself in the lower corner. And no, we were not filming eachother. ;-)
what about that ? we both were on umts network, standing next to eachother.
is it something on my phone i forgot to turn on ?
i have a orange spv m700, (yes officially unlocked, thnx to the nice man in the orange shop!)
he has a nokia N73

It seems the Vodafone network in germany does not "see" that my trinity is on UMTS. If I try to use Vodafone TV it says that I am currently not on UMTS which I am.... very strange... any help is much appreciated

I am having the same problem with Telsra in Australia. I have the 3G symbol, the service says it is on UMTS Telstra, can browse the net with HSDPA, everything else seems fine.

Maybe a lame question, but you have the video call service enabled by your operator/contract? Maybe you require some settings on the phone to be recognized as video call enabled/ to operate on the network?

MMS
I can not send MMS too. It drives me really crazy!!!
I have a dutch KPN provider

saminegm said:
so no one has managed to make a video call with the trinity on vodafone germany?
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Since no one has answered this question yet: Yes, it works, albeit not to my satisfaction.
I'm using a Vodafone compact GPS (which should be identical to the HTC 3600=Trinity) on Vodafone Germany on the other (dark) side of the Rhine with good UMTS coverage (at least two bars). When phoning to, say, a Samsung UMTS mobile phone, I receive good picture quality and reasonable sound quality. However, the other side fails to receive decent sound; what is arriving there is regularly sort of "chopped" and hardly understandable. I'm not sure about the reason for this, but I suspect that it is my "Trinity" that is misbehaving (too slow? inadequate configuration settings?), as the Samsung's video arrives nicely and has good quality. It could also be the other way, of course, or it could be a Vodafone network problem.
Does anyone have any experience (good or bad) with the video call quality on the Trinity?
PS: Hello to everybody, I'm new to this forum, and I apologise for any misbehaviour in advance as it is not intended , and yes, I have used the "search" option .
Elfi

I had the same problem, Hard Reset fix it

RSchris said:
I had the same problem, Hard Reset fix it
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A hard reset involves deleting all data, right? I'm not looking forward to configuring the ppc again, really. But I guess it's worth a try, as the AEG-principle hardly ever fails...

Elfriede said:
A hard reset involves deleting all data, right? I'm not looking forward to configuring the ppc again, really. But I guess it's worth a try, as the AEG-principle hardly ever fails...
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Hi Elfriede. Welcome to the forum. Case you are german (der Name klingt danach) try this forum too: http://www.ppc-welt.info/community/forumdisplay.php?f=174
I sold my P3600 which I had bought from amazon just for the not working video calls. I then bought a Vodafone compact GPS... guess what... the video calls didn't work too. The guys at vodafone (which I had phoned 10 times for this problem and which had told me it must be my p3600's fault) just forgot to switch UMTS on!!! Now it works (I lost a few 100 € just because of vodafone-no-competence-service...)

Roger's disabled video calling in TyTN? Fix?

Just was curious if anyone had a solution to how I can enable the video calling feature in my Tytn.. Rogers wireless disabled it for some reason. I dont want to upgrade to WM6.. just to enable video calling in WM5..
DO i need to copy a cab file from another EXT_ROM?
Can i just copy the cab file over and that is all???
Help please!

Does Rogers even support video calling? This may be why they have disabled it in your Hermes!?

Yes they do.. since 2 months ago.. I have a Samsung A706 with video calling enabled ( been using it for 2 months )... I think one of the tech guys told me that the TyTN wasnt certified yet for the network... However I know people using unlocked TyTNs on Roger's and their video calling works fine!..
The rep pretty much said that they disabled it so they wouldnt get a million tech support calls asking why sometimes they can video call and sometimes they cant..

Flash a different ROM to it then see if it works?

stogats said:
Yes they do.. since 2 months ago.. I have a Samsung A706 with video calling enabled ( been using it for 2 months )... I think one of the tech guys told me that the TyTN wasnt certified yet for the network... However I know people using unlocked TyTNs on Roger's and their video calling works fine!..
The rep pretty much said that they disabled it so they wouldnt get a million tech support calls asking why sometimes they can video call and sometimes they cant..
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I presume that you are referring to a Rogers-provided TyTN that you just got in the last week or two (Rogers just started selling the TyTN -- just in time for HTC to end-of-life it!) These are being shipped with WM5.0 AKU 3.3.1 (I believe). Likely they just disabled a registry entry on the units they are providing.
I can't test it for you because we don't have 3G in the Ottawa area (yet).
John

Video calling only works on Vision ready phones only

actually no i am using video calling on my softbank X01HT. HTC TyTn is suppose to work with the video calling feature. u might need to unlock your phone and get a new ROM for it to make it work if it doesnt

Are you sure its disabled? or they just won't let you add the feature on your phone? even when i got video calling put on my plan, the guy said they don't support it for vid calling, I told them to load it on anyways and if I lose $5 I lose, he put my phone down as a samsung a706. I would try to add the feature online and try...of if u just want to test it, and ur in the GTA, PM me the number and I will test it with you.

I know people that got it working on the TyTN but billing was all messed up and they got charged as if it were data or something.

Yeah I thought rogers may screw something up...but surprisingly they didn't do that bad...they charged me for text messages that they shouldn't have...but other than that everything is good.

y2whisper said:
Yeah I thought rogers may screw something up...but surprisingly they didn't do that bad...they charged me for text messages that they shouldn't have...but other than that everything is good.
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I had no problems adding the vision plans.. I havent got them yet.. monday should be the day. So if i have the vision plan on them..it should work right? does Rogers actually disable the front facing video camera??
Kinda confused now lol.. was under the impression that the video camera was totally disabled..

Rogers disabled video calling from the firmware. Only way i can see around it is to reflash. I upgraded mine to WM6, and Vid Calling is working just fine.

Has anyone checked to see what Radio Rom Rogers released with the new TYTN
I was on another post and somebody was asking how he could upgrade to his buddys rom v1.42.00.00. His friend just got a new TYTN from Rogers.
That would be a radio rom and not an OS and the guy was made aware, but regardless I was just wondering if there is a new Radio Rom out there that Rogers has released with this new product.

if only you asked a few hours ago. I just got my TyTn tonight, but upgraded everything as soon as I got home. I can check tomorrow when i get to work (i work in a rogers store) if no one figures it out by then.

u mean you will check it out to see if it has video calling on wm5 when you get back to work??
What wm6 rom seems to be the best/most stable

dtx said:
if only you asked a few hours ago. I just got my TyTn tonight, but upgraded everything as soon as I got home. I can check tomorrow when i get to work (i work in a rogers store) if no one figures it out by then.
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your cooked wm6 rom that you loaded (according to your profile) might not have changed the radio.. MOST cooked roms do not include a radio and the phone will use the existing one.. just go to start > settings > "System" tab > Device Information and it will list the radio version..

Need help with my new TyTn

Hi, I've tried searching about this and I'm really confused.. I hope someone can help me..
The video calling function is not working on my newly bought TyTn (I'm with Rogers right now), and I'm wondering if it will work if I upgraded it to WM6 (It's currently 5)?
Also, I can only find the upgrade for AT&T8525 on HTCs website, is TyTn the same as 8525? Or I can't apply this upgrade to TyTn? I'm afraid the phone will just stop working altogether after I upgrade it...
If anyone has any experience in this, please help me out.. Thanks alot in advance!

TyTn an 8525 are brother and sister. 8525 does not have the front camera. For a ROM upgrade, you're better off with one of the roms put together by the fine cooks here on XDA.
Video calling will not function unless you have a good 3G service.

Thanks for your reply!
Rogers provide a 3.5G service so as long as I upgrade the ROM, Video calling would work?
but do I need to get Rogers settings somehow transfered to the new ROM?

I want the answer too! can someone please help..

To be able to connect to 3g and the like you will need the operator settings.
Have a look through here and see what you can find.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=299023

No video call button X1a

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I just received my X1a, I am with Rogers Wireless in Canada and get good 3G signal with my X1, but there is no video call option in phone menu. I have video calling plan and so does the other party. When I put my sim card into my old Kaiser, everything works well. Anybody has any suggestions what the problem might be? My rom version is 1.02.948.8, radio is 1.06.25.24U
Thanks in advance

I'm sure this is a reg hack that will open this up.

Does Rogers have full 3G? They might have kept video call out of the X1a considering no North American carriers have the entire 3G network capabilities yet. AT&t is getting there, supposed to launch within a couple months.

the x1a has the front facing camera so I'm sure you CAN enable this somehow on the device.

Raspster said:
I'm sure this is a reg hack that will open this up.
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Can someone please direct me where to change in reg?

Video calling enabled
Hi, I have an X1a here in Australia. It works just fine - except that the video window is too small to be useful. I am on the Telstra NextG network (850Mhz). I have a previous post asking how to increase the video window display size, but no respondants yet? Can anyone help>?
Cheers,
Peter

This is already being dscussed in other thread
Video-call is a missing feature only in the NAM ROM (northamerica ROM)
Everybody else has video-call in the dialpal, even th LAM ROM (latinamerica ROM) has videocall
Nobody has prepared or extracted a CAB file yet, thus, if you want videocall you can flash the UK ROM. I have tested the X1i UK ROM myself on X1a and eveything worked fine, AND the dialpad incuded the video-call button and settings
Beware: yes the dialpad had video-call, but I didn't make any "actual" test call

I thought that the X1a did not have the camera on the front (one side of the earpiece) and so because of this video calling was not possible???