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TouchFlo Music Player not working at all!

Hello guys..
New to the forum, but not to the game - so sorry beforehand if there is already a thread concerning this issue. A link to that thread would more than suffice, but after a few minutes of searching I couldn't find anything - so here goes:
My Blackstone really acts up when I try to use the Music Player in TouchFlo3d. Meaning, all I have to to is slide the menu over to the "Music" tab - and TouchFlo immediately restarts/resets and I end up back at the "Home" window. I've tried formatting the SD card (was thinking maybe it was my music files acting up), but that didn't do the trick. At the moment I just use Media Player Mobile, which is good enough, but I would really love for the actual TouchFlo player to work as well.
Thanks a lot for any help regarding this !
Sincerely, Naxos aka Joachim.

Well why don't you start off by explain how you came to get this problem in the first place? What did you install.
I doubt it will just screw up like that.

Of course, sorry.. that's just the point, and probably why I forgot to mention it. This actually happened like the first night I ever used the phone, so I had installed absolutely nothing yet. I was "new" to the phone then, so I just disabled music tab for TF3D, until now - cuz now I've come to know the phone well enough, and I want to get the problem fixed.
I had synched a few songs via WMP from my desktop computer, and the first time I added them they worked. But as I tried to listen to a few of them, scrolling back and forth, checking the menus etc, suddenly (sounds weird, but that's how i experienced it) it started acting up as previously explained.
Currently the only stuff I've installed to the phone is:
-Official HTC Fixes
-Coreplayer(legit)
-HDTweak
-tnyynt SD Tuner
-MusicID
Really sorry that I really can't explain anymore as to how the whole problem occurred in the first place, and of course I understand if this prevents you guys from really helping at all. Of course, a hard reset would probably do the trick - but I would very much like to avoid that!

My TF3D music player screwed up when i tried to play wma files, as soon as i removed those and only added mp3 files it's ben working fine.

you could check your phone (internal memory and sd card) for unsupported music file format
as long as the stupid thing (tf3d player) scan the entire device for media files, it can stuck on one of those unsupported formats.
it happened to me when i first added my ringtones, so that can be it.
good luck!

Thanks noris, but even that wasn't the thing it seems
searched my whole device for anything but mp3 files, and came up with nothing, I mean other than my ringtones tho.. don't really want to delete all of those..
hm, I'm really at a loss here - so one final effort for some hero out there to help me please! else I guess I'm going for the hard reset
thanks for the replies, anyway!

I had a similar issue with 'Santogold' by Santogold. I read on some other forum that the Touch Flo music player locks out if you have an album title with the same name as an artist! Sounds crazy, but ...I removed the Santogold album and it worked fine. Transpires it loaded in the tracks upto that album then had a fit and kept throwing me out. I still can't figure out what's wrong with the file. It's an mp3 format album purchased from 7Digital. http://www.7digital.com/artists/santogold/santogold/ (encoded at 256k). Have a look at all the music you're transfering over to the HTC and see if there's any music files that bear these similar traits.
I've also had the random audio pauses using the player, bizarre digital scrobbling noises (had to reset device to fix that one). Nearly all of my files were ripped to MP3 using Windows Media Player 11 at 128k. The whole Touch Flo interface is buggy. Are we all raising these bugs with HTC? I have raised a couple so far. Latest being the mail previews (in the envelope graphic) not being able to flick through previews. Seems to happen if the device is reset and you go straight into mail once it fires up, or if the device is left on standby for more than a couple of hours and you go into mail. You have to flick through sms previews first and THEN go back to mail for it to work. Crazy crazy stuff!

TF3D Music Player- Help its killing me!!!!!!!

I am having a nightmare with this hunk of brown steaming excretia!!!!! Firstly you have to load songs through Media player-WHY!!!!! What was wrong with dragging and dropping it onto the memory card like I used to do with my Touch.
Second Having waited whilst windows makes me grow older loading toons on the card, having play ok for a week, its just decided it will only play the first 2 seconds of a song any song then lock up!!! It lets me see all my songs, artists, albums, artwork, everything but the bl00dy tease wont let me play em. Worst of all the windows media player on the phone plays it all fine!!!!
Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

you can drag and drop the files
thats the way i do it and i usually play via tf3d , but iv never had a problem of the music stopping

Do you keep your mp3s in a particular file on the sd card and do you "treat" them in any way album art tag edit etc? Cheers for the answer, this is driving me mad!

I drag and drop directly into the storage card. I avoid WMP when possible - it seems to take forever.
The only problem with drag and drop approach is that sometimes TF3D does not seem to see the update. So, you might have to stop TF3D and restart it - this forces the music player to rescann available files.

How do you stop Tf3d, and how long does your HD take to update the list when you restart it?

even though i use tf3d when i start the music player i always go in library option then choose my music through that

I created a folder on my SD called Music and dragged albums to it. Play them via TF3D and point the library at the SD. It scans the entire card to find the music. then lists them. Only problem I had is when I removed some music from the SD and they still appeared in the TF3D.Resolved it by finding the library file, deleting it and then rescanning card........
Don't bother with the WMP

quick questions for the pro here.... how can i have only one folder showing off my storage card. for example i hate having it scan all of the card, and having ringtones mixed in there.... i wish i could have music and ring tones separate how ever only full songs on the player

marmin said:
How do you stop Tf3d, and how long does your HD take to update the list when you restart it?
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This is not something I do often but in the settings, personal, today you can deselect TF3D and then reselect it.
It seems that TF3D does not have a special "scan" button so the best way is to stop and restart TF3D. I have also Pocket Tunes and Pocket Player - both have scan options. But, I generally use TF3D.

ahjdmarchi said:
quick questions for the pro here.... how can i have only one folder showing off my storage card. for example i hate having it scan all of the card, and having ringtones mixed in there.... i wish i could have music and ring tones separate how ever only full songs on the player
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Been looking for a way around this myself and I'm still yet to find anything. All my ringtones & music files all appear together which is annoying

Cheers to all the guys who answered the original question
Stopped using media player, wow what a relief.
Got a new problem now though After spending a night finding and adding album art, I loaded the mp3s, stopped and started TF3D, cool it saw the mp3s fine. Not so cool, it has "stuck on one of the album pics and wont move!!! the song changes, the title changes but the picture stays the same!!!

marmin you are not alone. I have the same problems with tf3d player and its almost killing me.
my k800i was perfect in this disciplin.
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I copied all my mp3s on my sd card (no activesync). I have 4 songs with different integrated covers and my player shows all the time the same cover.
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The other frustrating thing is the thing with ringtones. Somebody already mention it. I just want to say tf3D: "hey only scan this folder. the rest is none of your business. nothing else." but it scans all the time my whole device including ringtones.

Here is the file I deleted prior to a rescan (as mentioned in my previous post) .......
My Device\Application Data\HTC\AudioManager_Eng
although you could just rename it so you can change it back again if a problem arises.....
When I scanned afterward it recreated the entire music database from my SD including the assoication for image files to their respective albums.

Fallen Spartan said:
Been looking for a way around this myself and I'm still yet to find anything. All my ringtones & music files all appear together which is annoying
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i haven't tried this idea, but I think it would certainly be worth investigating (I'd check it for you guys but a bit busy till the weekend arrives). But for those that know how to edit the registry (really simple), try and add a new key to the respective TF3D music player folder called "Ignore". In the new key, add a 'string value' for your descritption (name of folder would do nicely). More importantly, set the "Data" to the full path of the folder to be ignored (something like "Storage Card\Ringtones"). I think this might work as it works with the TF3D album (forces it to ignore the folders which you tell it to and all its sub-folders). Please let me know if you try this and if it works or not (if no one tries it I'll try to give it a go over the weekend)
Good Luck (and hope it works)

Album art in the TF3D music player.
I am having those issues too. My problems started when I embedded the art into the MP3's. It not only hangs on the art, it also will only play about 2- seconds of the song before stopping. I can play the songs fine with the Windows media player though, so I had to put it on the programs tab so I could get to it easy.
Anothr thing about the HTC player, is it doesn't seem to go into sub folders very well, where the Windows player does. But like you said, it picks up on EVERYTHING, and that's extremely annoying.

Thought I'd give a shout out to S2P, a great freeware music player, which some of you will know of but other's might not:
http://s2p.ac-s2.com/
As others have said, Nitrogen and Pocket Player are also great players

Still struggling with Music Tab

I'm interested to know how others are getting on with the music tab in HTC sense. It took me a long time to get round to buying a 16GB card, but now I have I'm struggling to get the Music tab to function.
With a small collection of music it works just fine. However as I increase the collection at some point it breaks, so that it will only play a few seconds of a track before stopping, usually accompanied by a spinning circle in the top left of the screen, when that stops spinning the music stops. Something to do with indexing I'm assuming.
My music is organised in a fairly standard \Storage Card\Music\<Artist>\<Album>\ style format so there are no individually huge folders My favoured bitrate has been 192 so the files shouldn't be too big. I've tried syncing with Windows Media Player and with Mediamonkey. I've had mediamonkey convert all files as it syncs to WMA format or to MP3 at constant bitrate. All with the same results.
Who has the music tab functioning well with several GB's worth of music on their card? What settings did you use?
Of course I can just have WMP as a quick link on my first line whic happily plays everything and retains bluetooth AVRCP fuctionality. However the Music Tab interface is far nicer when it works.

<no longer true>My music tab isn't funtioning AT ALL, let alone well. It lists all my music (only 4 albums for experimenting, all tagged) alphabetically, and only draws the top half of the embedded albumart.
Doesn't even attempt to play, just sits there. Click next track, same - just draws half teh album art then sits there. Phone isn't hung or anything, just doesn't play.
Shame really, but i've not had it a week yet, so I'm gonna ignore it for now, and i'll look into it deeper once I have stopped playing with all the other bits.</no longer true>
See post 2 below

Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.

**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.

samsamuel said:
**UPDATE**
OK i take back what i said in my previous post. I guess it was still reading the tags or something, because after having left it to sit for a while, it now works fine, including the albumart etc.
I didn't use sync, i rarely do for music players, so perhaps it takes longer for the player to find and scan everything using drag n drop rather than sync.
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Yes,
I think using ActiveSync organises the files into a more easily accessible format/location, which is why I suggested it. Good to know that everything is working ok for you now though

OK, so I backed up everything on the card. Formatted the card using the phones built in application. Copied everything back except the music files.
Used Mediamonkey and set up an auto-conversion rule to convert everything it syncs to MP3 format at 192 bitrate whether it needs converting or not.
Updated the library in Media player on the HD2.
reset the HD2 and let the music tab re-index everything.
Everything is now working perfectly. Thanks for the opinions. Whether it was the phone format or just that I hadn't actually used those exact rules for syncing I can't say as mediamonkey was origionally setup to only convert files if it had to. I had issues with Windows Media Player missing out files.

Gajet said:
Everything is now working perfectly.
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Everything still perfect? I am almost able to sync without incident, but the "audio manager" crashes at the end of every sync (and, when prompted by the phone, I keep reporting the crash to Microsoft even though I don't expect them to get back to me anytime soon).
It also seems like I have to do a soft reset after each sync to shake out all of the bugs (missing album art, unplayable song files, etc.)
FWIW, I'm only syncing about 30 songs now until I have this sorted out, so having GBs worth of files isn't the problem (I was NEVER able to get 8GB of music to work in Manila's music tab on my Raphael).

id say that sounds more like an active sync issue.its never been the most stable program. why not simply connect in hard drive mode (or put memory card in card reader) and just drag and drop the music to it , then let the phone find it all itself.that'd be my preferred method.

gargon01 said:
Hi,
Well I have to admit that my media player seems to be working well *touch wood*. I've got a few gb's of music on the 16gb card.
As soon as I got the card I formatted it on the HD2 before I put anything on it. Then I just synced my whole music collection from my laptop to the phone via ActiveSync, navigated to WMP on the HD2 and updated the library and all seems to play well (after the a little white circle spinning while it indexes the library).
Try backing up the card. Formatting it on the phone then doing it my way and see how if it helps.
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How do you format the card from the Phone?

kochavy said:
How do you format the card from the Phone?
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I can jump in and answer that one - press the Window key (third one along on the bottom) (or press the button at the top left) and go to tools and there at the bottom is a button to format the SD card.
One thing I would like to see is the ability for the player to decode .ogg files - I love gapless playback, and really miss it with mp3's. I am trying to rip some stuff now, but it is a pain having to rip multiple tracks to one mp3 file just to avoid the hop skip and jump when playing back.
All the best.
rjstep3

When I was having issues with my music tab I followed the format SD card and organised into Artist/Album/tracks but what really worked for me was converting my entire library into LAME mp3. 1500+ songs are now working perfectly. I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.

Hoodeddeathman said:
I recommend using dBpoweramp to convert if you're willing to give it a shot.
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dBpoweramp is certainly very good - but don't forget the free options as well, including foobar, Exact Audio Copy and Freerip3 - just Google for them.
rjstep3

i am also having a problem with the music.tab on the htc hd2. at first i was really plsased.with this phone but no w i am havekng countless problems with it...such as cudnt play videos with utube app installed...now this music nonsense.....i have spent toooo much mone on this phone t be getin these poblems and alsopurchased a 16gb card....i live tge hd2 .if only there was less problems
nyway has anyone found a working solution

I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.

Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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I don't know why that would be, but if it works then it works!
I have a "MUSIC" folder on my SD card, and in that I have artist sub-folders and then within them I have album sub-folders. It all works fine for me. This is literally the same folder that I've had for the past 3 WM phones, and I just copied it there manually, without using any type of synch.

Phaedrus Nine said:
I thought all the music needed to be in a root folder on the storage card, no sub-folders within to work well?
I had same problem. HTC music player stopped after about 4 secs of playing with every song. Put it all into a root folder and worked fine since.
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Could be because of the length of the path/filename when sub folders are used?
EG
theartistfoldernamedartist/thenameofthealbum/theartistfoldernamedartist-thenameofthealbum-thetracknumber.mp3
Perhaps the scanner struggles to cope with long path/filenames?

Ive got this problem and i was wondering if it had anything to do with the quality of the storage card?
Edit:
REASON FOUND
"One bad apple spoils the barrel"
One badly encoded mp3 will make the entire player stop. I found this while playing mp3s on music tab whilst transfering new mp3s through drag and drop (active sync) as soon as one particular mp3 was transferred the player stop and music would stop after 2-5secs. After deleting this file and reaccessing music tab library it was back to normal.
Suggestions: leave music player on whilst drag and dropping so you can figure out which are the problem files.
Alternatively: Re-encode your mp3s, either all or the problem files only.

I have been having an intermitment problem with the music tab in that it works fine for most of the time but then suddenly when I open it I get the spinning circle at the top left and the whole thing has frozen. The only way to get it working is a soft reset.
It doesn't seem to be badly formatted mp3 as after the reset the file that was in the player will work again.
I transfer music from windows media player using the sync function.
It has never stopped working whilst playing only when I open the tab and I think a few times it has been when a track has been paused for some time.
Any ideas are welcome. . .

My music tab doesn't work properly every time after the device was connected via USB in external drive mode. The last played title keeps being displayed, the album it is in is shown in the library as well (as currently played items or however this the first list in the library is called in english) but nothing else is listed. And the little white circle keeps spinning and spinning... I let it spin for hours once but nothing happened. The SD card was formatted by the phone in the first place and I never get freezes once the player works properly.
After a soft reset everything works fine instantly but shouldn't there be a way to get it up and running without resetting everytime I use USB external drive mode???
ROM 1.66 GER, problem was present on clean ROM (before tweaks and tools), too.

Problem with SENSE Music player

i tried to play music from the desktop but i can't see any songs or any albums..
i got a message says (The music titles in the playlist no longer exist. They may have been deleted or the storage card may have been removed) ..
in spite of i have songs on the device and on the storage card.. and i can play them with the media player and other apps...
i need your help guys.. how do i fix the Sense Music player to see my Songs/Albums list again!?
thanks alot

Does this happen when your phone is connected to your computer ? If so it sounds like your hd2 id set to work as a removable storage device when its connected to your pc, where the sd card becomes unavaliable to the phone and you can only access it from tue computer to transfer files.

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no i set the device on ActiveSync and the device not connected to pc.. still not working :s
Any genius here?

I have the exact same problem. The songs are located on the SD and I can play them with WMP or CorePlayer but Sense can't seem to locate them.
I didn't have this problem 2 days ago, but yesterday I copied 4 more albums to my SD card and since then Sense Music can't locate anything.
I have about 2GB of music but I doubt there's some limit. I tryied removing the SD and soft resetting the device a few times but it didn't fix the problem.
The card is in good shape and all apps installed on it work just fine.

I've had this issue on a couple of occasions. The sense player shows no files, but, of course, there are! I actually coaxed the Sense player into finding them by going to the menu tab and selected Add to Playlist. My files were THERE, but not in the actual Sense UI. I selected a song, it started to play, and then, voila, all of the files populated the Sense player again. It's odd...

not sure if I have the same problem, but when it happens to me, I just wait for ages and then they reappear. I think it just takes the Audio Manager Engine ages to re-scan your memory card after it has been connected to a pc. I often find that I can see files on the song tab before they appear on the Album or Artist tab.

this happens to me everytime i add a track or tracks, and every time i soft reset, all you have to do is go to song tab when phone is in horizintal view ( click library> slide to songs ) individual songs are there l, just play one then everything starts comeing back....

hellyeah!
Damn you're a genious!!
i've been trying for hours..
now i got my music back in sense player!
thanks!

Problem: Music player loses audiotracks after connecting to pc.

Anyone has this problem? Kinda annoying to have to softboot everytime after even just charging the phone...
Audiofiles show up fine in file explorer & play in media player, but HTC music player just informs "no music found".
ROM: latest MIRI.

Are you sync-ing with media player?
pls chek this thread:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=647136

no, just dropping the files to SD card. Don't want to sync my music files with any computer (almost main reason that I sold iphone.. itunes....aaarrrrgghh..)
thanks for the link, but no help..
another question; Is there a way to disable the albumart fetcher? (i always make albumarts myself..) it countlessly tries to update the arts, but does nothing (..but takes resources..)

First post, and an attempt to help after lurking here for weeks. LOL.
I had the same problem with my audio files. I'd disconnect from the PC and it would say "no files found" or some such thing. However, if I went into the library and mucked about (not sure what I did the first time. Just sorta clicked around until I saw a list of music), I would see songs on my SD card, press one of them, and, voila, my Sense Player would, once again, find all of the songs I'd downloaded to the device.
I've not used Sync, however, as I hate Itunes style appz like that (they frighten and confuse me...). I have been dragging my folders over manually. I doubt that'd make a difference, though.

demaniac said:
another question; Is there a way to disable the albumart fetcher? (i always make albumarts myself..) it countlessly tries to update the arts, but does nothing (..but takes resources..)
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I do the DIY covers myself, as a lot of my "albums" are actually compilations of tunes I like best from a particular artist rather than actual albums (ergo, no covers actually exist)! I've not had an issue with the albumart fetcher trying to connect, though. I've didn't even know it was there until I hit it by mistake while flailing about on the touchpad (coming from a G1...this thing is SENSITIVE).

This isn't just the fact that your plugging in your phone to the pc and using it as a disk drive is it?? when you do that you cant access the files on the phone..
I guess its not though as you say you can view the files in explorer...

ooFunk said:
This isn't just the fact that your plugging in your phone to the pc and using it as a disk drive is it?? when you do that you cant access the files on the phone..
I guess its not though as you say you can view the files in explorer...
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He didnt mean it like that. He was talking about that his music disappears AFTER he had connected the device to the pc. Afterwards the tracks dont appear in the player.
I didnt have this problem with the HD2 but with the HD...never seen it since i own the HD2.