Weather not updating on SE panels - XPERIA X1 General

I have an O2 branded X1, the weather in the two Sony Ericsson panels does not autoupdate, I have set my location in accuweather.com as required.
My SBG panel works just fine and the weather upgrades as required. Has anyone else noticed this?

I have too! It's always 17 degrees in Brighton - and it's not today, I can assure you.
Any idea why this is, anyone?
This is one of the little deciders beofre this handset goes back to o2 and I look at the Touch Pro.

Anyone else out there notice this, I know its an issue, I know of other people who have the same problem.
Does the weather auto-update in the Sony Ericsson panels?

make sure u are set to auto update and not on manual update. There is such option, just look for it, its there for sure.

I think the weather feed from Accuweather just does not work for certain places, which is strange and pretty poor since you can actually select them and get the relevant info on their site. For example, set your location as London and it will update fine, the icon will change etc, but for very few other places.
Anyone had a different xperiance?!

yes, i have this problem too..I am starting to think the weather function do not get their weather details from the aacuweather.com
This is rreally annoying because when I switch the city to another city which cannot update the weather, it will simply leave the weather details of the Old city which sometimes is extrememly wrong.
I really hope either someone here or the sony ericsson will find a solution to this problem..or may be I will just move to use other panels instead

So how often do you have your ''web feeds update time'' set for in panel options? If you have it set to ''never'' then your weather never updates. And you have to set this up in every panel as each panel is a different interface shell.
It is up to your Xperia to go to accuweather and any RSS feed internet adresses to update all the info on your panel. Not up to the site to send to you.
One more hint. EVEN if you change the city in the panel settings, you have to go to accuweather and make sure you have added this location to ''your locations'' . This is so accuweather will add this cookie to your xperia. Thus allowing your Xperia to revisit the proper area on the site for your city settings. And if you don't have cookies enabled in your internet settings set to accept cookies..... then your weather can't update.
So far I have met 4 people face to face with the Xperia and all 4 had this same complaint. T the fixes were:
1. fellow had his phone to NEVER access data without his manually allowing it....weather couldn't see the site. I don't know where this setting is but after he enabled his phone data connection it worked great.
2. never set the ''web feeds update time'' to anything but ''never'' .....phone didn't know to update. He set the time to ''hour' and now his weather and CNN headline news RSS updates every hour.
3. Weather wouldn't update all day then magically start at 6:00pm every day. The girl didn't have a stong enough signal in her work building to establish data connection.
4. set area weather in accuweather site for only the city he lived in. when he would change cities, it would only show the weather for his home town no matter what city the panel.
If this doesn't help....sorry. You're outta luck.

I have read what you have all said, thanks for the feedback.
I think that some of you are right in your assumption that the weather does not update for all cities.
I live in Southampton UK, its about 60 miles south west of London. If I enter Southampton as my location in the panel, then the weather does not update, however if I enter London it does update.
I have both cities seleceted on the accuview weather site, it does not seem to make any difference as to which I select as the default city. The only critical point seems to be the city selected in the panel. I have my web feed on autoupdate every hour etc etc. My rss webs feeds update with no issues, my cookies are selected to on.
I just think that its a pretty bad show when my city's weather will not update in these two SE panels but works just fine in any other panels that have this function. The SPG panel is by far the most useful one in my humble opinion.
I would be greatful if one of you who has this working for your city can put in my default location, ie Southampton UK, and let me know if it works for you.
Thanks in advance.

I have exactly the same issue with Newcastle I now use the Pointui panel though so its not really a big deal, but it would've been nice if it actually worked...

I too am suffering a similar issue.
Live in brighton and updates do not work, however if I change to London it updates fine.

Here is a quick question.
Are most of the people who have "weather update problems" that can't be fixed in the UK?

It would make so much sense to have the option of updating weather based on GPS location. I want to know the weather WHERE I'M AT, not where I live.
Anytime I travel, I have to go into the settings to tell the X1 where I'm at. A phone with GPS shouldn't require such maintenance. Even if there is no GPS data available, weather based on cell tower id should work just fine.

RSS workaround
I couldn't get where I live to work either.
I ended up doing a workaround to get the weather information I wanted by setting up an RSS web feed from accuweather for my city. Incidentally, I had to change the city name to all capitals for it to work - which might be why the built in SE panel one doesn't work!
There is actually an advantage to the RSS feed route too: click the feed and you get access to a 2 day forecast without the overhead and hassle of having to launch your internet browser and go to the accuweather site!

I need help with this issue. I have my SE panel set to web feed updates time every hour. I can't seem to find a connection setting to allow data coonnection automatically. Yet when I hit the update button on the panel, both my cities update in a matter of twenty seconds. I have Boston and Salonika chosen so they are part of SE's canned list. They are both also listed on Accu weather's site as my locations. Is there a way to get the device to request an update on it's own or do I need the spb weather panel.

Related

Weather Woes

I am feeling frustrated. I have now tried EIGHT weather programs, none of which deliver what I would like to have. What I want is
1. A discrete Today screen line with the 7 day forecast for a chosen city, which can readily be changed.
2. Ability to set the program to sync by Activesync (or wifi) only (when I am traveling to foreign countries) and otherwise to autoupdate. I'd be happies with 'autoupdate only by activesync'.
3. Either a small memory footprint, or the ability to run off the SD card
4. Good forecasts (e.g. in US: NOAA or weather.com and *NOT* gismeteo.ru)
5. International cities
I would also be happy just to have RSS feeds for the cities I am interested in, but RSS feeds seem to only go two days out and be mostly composed of advertisements for weather.com.
Here are my notes on the programs I have tried.
SPB Weather 1.6.2: Version 1.5 worked well for me until recently, and has a great interface. However it kept downloading data by GPRS connection even though I had set it not to do so, and used a lot of data in Europe, which cost me at least $100. This problem (others report similar problems, though usually the opposite: set to update but didn't) was allegedly fixed by an upgrade to 1.6.2, but the upgrade killed off weather.com as a source and the new source -- gismeteo.ru -- doesn't have data for Pasadena, CA weather! (It found the city, but came back 'data not available.' Moreover, the program is over 2MB and doesn't run well of the SD card. Hence my search for a new program.
Fizz Weather 2.3: This program seemed very promising. It has all the right settings. The interface is klugy -- it takes a lot of clicks to change cities, see forecasts, etc. -- but it promises to do everything I want and has weather maps besides. However, it messed up the activesync connection somehow; once it updated over activesync, nothing else could run, even after the program stopped. Fizz ran well off minisd, though. I had to wipe and install a backup to recover activesync functionality.
Weathertogo 4.0: Free! Max of 3 cities and US only. No good for international.
Stocks and Weather Today; This program might work but is the opposite of discrete -- moving icons and large images and spinning storms. This is ideal for some people, but I found it too distracting and garish.
Pocketweather: This seems to be very similar to spb weather, perhaps a little better (extra screens of information available). But it has the same defects, too: gismeteo.ru data and the user is strongly advised not to run off minisd card.
Weather forecast 101: Attractive price ($1.99) but US only.
ADB Weather: Couldn't find Pasadena, CA data, probably uses gismeteo.ru feed.
Handy Weather (penreader.com): 3MB in size, but runs off SD card. Miserable city selection (but not a big deal since adding cities isn't frequent). Requires too much today screen real estate -- no discrete mode. Very economical on data: 2KB per city per download claimed, 3KB experienced. This is what I am currently using, with a link in PHM traylaunch to fire it up, and the today screen part disabled. Subscription service ($15/year); data from their own site, I think from accuweather (hearsay).
I'm in the same boat ... any news on that ?
Thanks
Handyweather
In the end, I paid for handy weather. It takes too much space on the today screen so I don't use it there, but it can run off the sd card, it takes very little data (4K per city tops), has lots of cities. This has worked well enough for me even though it isn't optimal.
I did experiment with weathertogo because it has a great today screen and it is free. It uses NOAA but unfortunately it uses NWS areas for forecasts which are much too large -- I live in Pasadena and my NWS area includes mountains, so it always forecasts freezes for me. It just isn't sufficiently accurate.
I wrote a program to do the updating of my weather and rss feeds, so that it doesn't update when I'm in europe. A great thing about running programs off the sd card is that it doesn't need to be reinstalled after a hard reset.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279232&highlight=skschema
Good luck and if you find a better program, please post!
There's also WeatherPanel by MarsWare. Not sure if it meets your specs.
http://www.marsware.net/WeatherPanel/main.htm
Stocks and Weather Today?
That program looks like Stocks and Weather Today, but might be different.
covers half your requirements
you an try weather watcher by singer's creations. it's free and offers half the stuff you were looking for...just doesn't update automatically.
http://www.singerscreations.com/AboutWeatherWatcherMobile.asp
if it doesn't link properly, try searching for weather watcher in google.
Pretty Nice
monkey_knight said:
you an try weather watcher by singer's creations. it's free and offers half the stuff you were looking for...just doesn't update automatically.
http://www.singerscreations.com/AboutWeatherWatcherMobile.asp
if it doesn't link properly, try searching for weather watcher in google.
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This program will remember a lot of cities but only seems to store data on one at the time. On the other hand, it provides good information about that city. Pretty nice at the free price. Nice interface. Apparently no today screen support. It was easy to add it to my automatic updating program that updates off activesync. Small footprint and runs off sd card.
prestonmcafee said:
Fizz Weather 2.3: This program seemed very promising. It has all the right settings. The interface is klugy -- it takes a lot of clicks to change cities, see forecasts, etc. -- but it promises to do everything I want and has weather maps besides. However, it messed up the activesync connection somehow; once it updated over activesync, nothing else could run, even after the program stopped. Fizz ran well off minisd, though. I had to wipe and install a backup to recover activesync functionality.
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After spending a lot of time looking for a decent weather program I ended up with Fizz as well. Like you said, the interface is a bit silly, but it does everything else very well. No problems here with activesync at all, using (the latest) version 2.31.
prestonmcafee said:
I am feeling frustrated. I have now tried EIGHT weather programs, none of which deliver what I would like to have. What I want is
1. A discrete Today screen line with the 7 day forecast for a chosen city, which can readily be changed.
2. Ability to set the program to sync by Activesync (or wifi) only (when I am traveling to foreign countries) and otherwise to autoupdate. I'd be happies with 'autoupdate only by activesync'.
3. Either a small memory footprint, or the ability to run off the SD card
4. Good forecasts (e.g. in US: NOAA or weather.com and *NOT* gismeteo.ru)
5. International cities
I would also be happy just to have RSS feeds for the cities I am interested in, but RSS feeds seem to only go two days out and be mostly composed of advertisements for weather.com.
Here are my notes on the programs I have tried.
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Stocks and Weather Today; This program might work but is the opposite of discrete -- moving icons and large images and spinning storms. This is ideal for some people, but I found it too distracting and garish.
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Hi, I am one of the developers for S & W T so I hope this is OK.
You can turn off the moving icons via the options page if you want.
In addition, I want to let you know that the US weather data is from NOAA and we use an XML service on the Internet to get us the data. This means that when NOAA changes the format of the data (which they do fairly often) you do not have to get an update of the software and reinstall it on your device. Go to http://www.xmlweather-usa.com/getNoaaWeather.php?location=Denver,CO if you want to see an example for the weather for Denver.
A lot of weather applications are always broken because of NOAA web site changes (just look at their bulletin boards (if they have one)). We have been using the XML weather service for over a year now and since we have been using it we have not had to release a single patch to deal with NOAA changes. This make life a lot easier for both us and our customers.
Again, I hope this post was not out of line.
Dave
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www.StocksAndWeatherToday.com
Im not offended...
Thanks for the heads up on your app SWT... I'm going to give it a try...
Currently using Marsware Weather.
VintageSlots said:
Hi, I am one of the developers for S & W T so I hope this is OK.
You can turn off the moving icons via the options page if you want.
In addition, I want to let you know that the US weather data is from NOAA and we use an XML service on the Internet to get us the data. This means that when NOAA changes the format of the data (which they do fairly often) you do not have to get an update of the software and reinstall it on your device. Go to http://www.xmlweather-usa.com/getNoaaWeather.php?location=Denver,CO if you want to see an example for the weather for Denver.
A lot of weather applications are always broken because of NOAA web site changes (just look at their bulletin boards (if they have one)). We have been using the XML weather service for over a year now and since we have been using it we have not had to release a single patch to deal with NOAA changes. This make life a lot easier for both us and our customers.
Again, I hope this post was not out of line.
Dave
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www.StocksAndWeatherToday.com
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Just wanted to make a comment.. A post like this is always ok.. if a developer of software wants to offer support for their product then all is good, as long as your not specifically here trying to sell your app and spamming the boards.. so your post is definitely OK, and welcome to the boards!
Also i just went to the site and checked out the app, and i must say that the Stocks & Weather Today Themes Edition Is a very interesting concept.. a little to bold for me, but i still like it!
Whatever weather app you decide on just make sure you stay clear of Journal Bar by Omega One. The app itself is a fantasic concept delivered in very tidy and functional today plugin however us users have had little or no service from the product since March last year. Check out this foum to get an idea of how poor Omega one are with regard to support. http://www.technologyatplay.com/main/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4270&start=1
Unfortunetly this app is still on sale on most of the Pocket PC sites.
I have now opted for PocketWeather (ver 1.3.5) and to be honest I am well impressed. It didn't have the city I wanted in the pick list but it does give you the option to manually enter your city based on METAR city codes. Two minutes on Google found the code I needed and I haven't had any promlems since. - I love the earthquake tab!!!!!!

Automatic weather update on ActiveSync

Hi chiefs,
I am trying to develop a small utility which will run when device is connected with activesync and update the forecast info in weather tab. Updating the database works ok but I have some other problems that someone may help.
When you run the application it updates the database file forecast_cache.db but weather tab does not get refreshed. It still shows the old values, however when you reset the device or restart TF3D (by removing from Today and re-adding it) weather tab shows the new values updated by my utility.
Does anyone can suggest some way to make the weather tab refresh itself ?
Hi Ozkarah,
Nice work...!
Just guessing, but maybe the Weather tab does not read the database every time it is opened, and only does it on a refresh/update
Have you tried selecting update from the Weather tab after you have updated the database, but then disconnected from any data connection.
eg.
1. Use utility to update database
2. Disconnect from data connection
3. Hit Update on the weather tab to see if it picks up the data.
Just a thought...
Cheers
I know mine updates when ever I go to the weather tab, it starts the update automatically.
Supertrooper said:
I know mine updates when ever I go to the weather tab, it starts the update automatically.
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Yep, they all do that (standard setting), but that particular setting is a data hog, and is annoyning if you're not connected to any data caonnection...
ozkarah's trying to do something else like a daily update...
I gather you're in the US where you can get unlimited data contracts - where I'm from the setting you're talking about is an expensive one.
Cheers
any ideas from chiefs?
did you have any luck with my suggestion...?
Seems like a good feature to have, ozkarah.
I for one have a 5GB/month plan, so a periodic weather update which costs a few KB of data is what I would be very happy with, regardless of active connection (wireless or physical via ActiveSync).
I'm on HTC TP by the way.
unfortunately not. this was one of the first things I had tried. I only could manage it by restarting TF3D (removing and adding TF3D to Today itmes) or soft reset the device...
k1sr said:
Hi Ozkarah,
Nice work...!
Just guessing, but maybe the Weather tab does not read the database every time it is opened, and only does it on a refresh/update
Have you tried selecting update from the Weather tab after you have updated the database, but then disconnected from any data connection.
eg.
1. Use utility to update database
2. Disconnect from data connection
3. Hit Update on the weather tab to see if it picks up the data.
Just a thought...
Cheers
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Hi Ozkara,
I m updating my htc over night by addintimer ( gps, Podcast) and afterwards i reset it. So your little tool seems to be helpful for me to get the actual weater data. I couldn t accomplish to download the data with mortscript.
Is there any chance to get your too ?
Hi, im unable to update the weather via the internet connection.. Y is it so?
It will only be able to update when it download datas via phone line.. Its charging me crazy.. Any1 can help? Thx
I put the attached mortscript together to automatically update manila weather and stocks when I activesync. I use PhoneAlarm to detect the activesync connection and automatically execute this script. Unfortunatley it won't work if the screen is locked (such as through S2U2).
I wish there was a way truly update the weather and the stocks in the background as suggested by the OP.
I got tired of having to update manually, and installed SPB Mobile Shell - gotta say it's worth a look... it certainly isn't perfect, and there are definitely areas where TF3D is superior and vice versa...
All that being said - I prefer Mobile Shell - it's slightly more completed than TF3D
Rumball said:
I put the attached mortscript together to automatically update manila weather and stocks when I activesync. I use PhoneAlarm to detect the activesync connection and automatically execute this script. Unfortunatley it won't work if the screen is locked (such as through S2U2).
I wish there was a way truly update the weather and the stocks in the background as suggested by the OP.
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I have been looking for this for a long time. Thanks Rumball ! I think with this I can finally update weather via mortscript whenever PhoneAlarm switches profile at a specific time. Will try it out on my HD2.

MyLocation Weather **(NOT about how MyLocation does not work unless WIFI is on)**

From everything I have read, manila weather gets its information from AccuWeather.com (correct me if I am wrong). Now the suburb in which I live is not listed on AccuWeather.com, although the nearest city is.
However, 'myLocation' not only nails my suburb correctly, it also gives an accurate reading of the weather in my suburb (which is quite different from the nearest city-it is only about 10km away, but it is at the bottom of a hill, while I am at the top).
So my question is simply, does anyone know (or can you hazard a guess at) where it is getting this information from?
You are lucky, I can not get the weather info even I am living in a big city, which has the info at accuweather.com....
hknklbk said:
You are lucky, I can not get the weather info even I am living in a big city, which has the info at accuweather.com....
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For MyLocation to work you need to have wifi turned on, even if your not using wifi! Most if not all cities should work on MyLocation, my small town works fine.
Aaronc1978 said:
From everything I have read, manila weather gets its information from AccuWeather.com (correct me if I am wrong). Now the suburb in which I live is not listed on AccuWeather.com, although the nearest city is.
However, 'myLocation' not only nails my suburb correctly, it also gives an accurate reading of the weather in my suburb (which is quite different from the nearest city-it is only about 10km away, but it is at the bottom of a hill, while I am at the top).
So my question is simply, does anyone know (or can you hazard a guess at) where it is getting this information from?
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To hazard a guess I would say it uses your GPS location and AccuWeather.com, then using forcasts maps to work out what weather is like at your current location relative to the maps
I do everything but it is not responding (My Location)...
I opened WiFi, DataConnection, 3G..
I find my location from GoogleMaps..
But it is not showing weather update for MyLocation.
I can find my city from weather tab, & it updates the info for my city, BUT FOR MY LOCATION IT IS NOT!!!!
It makes me crazy!!!
I've had strange problems with my location, first happend a while back but started ok showin my uk location but i upgraded to a newer rom version and since then its been showing me livin in some place in finland. I have decided to test xannytechrom and shows my location ok again but i think it was his very first rom he released that started the problem regardless on what rom i went to but i think it might have been somting to do with the manilla but who knows. Im happy its working again
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To hazard a guess I would say it uses your GPS location and AccuWeather.com, then using forcasts maps to work out what weather is like at your current location relative to the maps
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From mypersonal experience, MyLocation does not utilize GPS. I check it indoors where I have no GPS signal and it nails my location. All it utilizes is the Internet connection but beat me if I know how it does it.
you are right it uses the internet connection but only Thru WIFI which sucks!
on other devices it works fine without needing wifi on.
It's using cell positioning just like googlemaps but on the blackstone I think there's something wrong with one of the drivers that does hand over from one connection type to the other..
I did replace oemext with the topaz version, as I suspected this is one of the dlls, it stopped it updating at all! so it's a good chance it's that one..
I haven't tried hex comparing them if decompiling to see what the differences are. .
As to where it gets it's data from I guess it picks up from nearest location in it's database although I'm not certain, I live about 10km outside the nearest city and get totally different weather when I have both my location on at home and the city set.
It's far from perfect; I've just finished video=reviewing the touch2 (HTC_mega) and at work (in the city) while setting my location for the first time, it totally ignored where I was and instead gave me weather from another village about 15km away that I haven't even taken the phone anywhere near !

T-mobile problems

Hey guys
After you guys helped me with my last problem, I decided I'd push the envelope a little and see if you could help me some more. Once again, you'll have to explain in the simplest terms possible.
I've been having trouble using the My Location feature of the HD2's weather application. It is able to download weather information for any specified city not not the 'my location.' If its relevant, I'm in the UK.
I thought that if i ditched the t-mobile supplied ROM in favour of the generic one it would help, but it hasn't (although, now I have more options to choose from).
Does anyone have any information that would help me?
thanks and best wishes
conrad
settings menu all settings system location services enable. check that first job.
thanks for the speedy reply. I checked that this was set and I found it was.
location is on. whats my next job?
hmm. OK, also in the location settings screen, ensure 'automatically decline...' is NOT ticked.
also
settings - data services - weather (could also use weather tab - menu - settings)
tick download automatically (just for testing purposes) if it isn't ticked.
also, on the weather tab (im sure you will already have done this) in the menu menu make sure it doesn't still say 'activate my location' or similar.
also check that your actual location is set to 'my location', and not one of the other cities that is pre loaded.
does it work when you are in other areas? some people seem to live in places where the local mast isn't part of the cell location database.
thats all the basic checks, after that i cant help i;m afraid.
thanks for the help. it looks like its to do with the location. it seems to work in crappy little villages but not in cities. I'll try in manchester tomorrow.
ConradW said:
thanks for the help. it looks like its to do with the location. it seems to work in crappy little villages but not in cities. I'll try in manchester tomorrow.
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its true that sometimes when im in villages my location is very infrequently updated, so it could well be the cause of your problem

What's up with Android Wear and weather?

I've been having major issues getting correct weather info on watch faces. Weather apps work fine, but temps shown on watch faces are always off by up to 10 or 15 degrees. Any solutions? I've tried changing the weather sources but we aren't given much choice. I have the ASUS ZW2 and wifi is off on the watch. Using manual location doesn't help either.
I'm seeing the same issue on my Huawei with different faces. Not sure how to resolve...
About the only face that works for me is Instaweather. All other are off. I wish you could set a global weather source and have plenty of choices to find what works best.
the weather app for myself and partner does'nt even work on our watches(zenwatch and sony sw3) always get "could not retrieve weather, check your internet connection"
^Yep, same message on my Huawei today...?

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