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When I had a smart (Nokia 6600), used answering machine "Smart Answer".
Now PDA XDA IIi (WM 2003SE).
It is necessary for me, that the program " Hangs Up " at an entering call, reproduced the text, and finished conversation.
Who can help me to find such program?
answering machine is absolutely impossible on your device
why impossible for this device?
try doing a search for answering mashine or something why it's not possible with wm pda phones is described many times in the forum
try doing a search for answering mashine or something why it's not possible with wm pda phones is described many times in the forum
Probably, there are answering machines which work by such principle?:
it is necessary for me only, that:
-phone automatically " Hangs Up " (well if would be possible to set an autorespond by the certain quantity of hooters)
-... And through certain time (5-6min) - " finished conversation "
Can someone tell me about it?
I think he means he just wants to controll the answering and hanging up. Thats relitively simple.
I am working on something now that will have that functionality incorporated in its settings. I can't give a definite time but if you dont find anything else try here again in a couple of months.
OdeeanRDeathshead
Very well! I am very glad, that there are people who can really help.
I with impatience shall wait on the program as in a network I can not find such with similar functions.
If it will be necessary to pay your diligence, I shall be glad to help!
All the same can somebody help me?
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
I think he means he just wants to controll the answering and hanging up. Thats relitively simple.
I am working on something now that will have that functionality incorporated in its settings. I can't give a definite time but if you dont find anything else try here again in a couple of months.
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Dear OdeeanRDeathshead,
how at you business with programming the program are?
Sorry, but I just can't understand that :lol: .
If you want my progress then.... What I am doing dose something else as its main thing, so that will take a while. For me the auto hangup is more of a safegaurd against never hanging up which would be expensive. I have read your posts again and it just becomes more un-clear. (No offence but) Please get someone to help you ask more clearly what you want and I may be able to add it in my product.
OdeeanRDeathshead
Thanks for so prompt replies!
Means, if it is possible, I shall describe procedure for what the program with such functions is necessary to me:
I live in Ukraine. As a matter of fact we have two largest operators of cellular communication who are monopolists. I, being the subscriber at both, use their services. The first operator - Ukraine Mobile Communication (UMC), the second Kyivstar.
At first operator UMC at me a subscription is unlimited (it the company in which I work pays), that is I talk, not worrying about spent time.
And the second package deal - at operator Kyivstar. My children use them.
Kyivstar represents such kind of services - as a payment of money for my account for entrance calls, that is to me pay money that someone dials my number and talks. But me charge money...
And so, it is necessary for me, that I could dial the number from time to time Kyivstar from the unlimited UMC, and for it to me will charge money for my account.
And for automation of process as to have to dial the number automatically each 5 minutes, and accordingly, it is necessary for someone to lift a tube(Hang Up) on other end, and the program for autorise is necessary to me.
That is it is necessary, that on XDA IIi the program at an entering call automatically accepted a call, and through set time (5-6 minutes) - laid down a tube(Hang Down).
Earlier when at the daughter was Nokia 6600, there were no problems (used Smart Answer). But now, when to it is necessary for work with PDA, I do not find programs in which there are such functions.
It is necessary:
The program on PDA at an entrance call automatically lifted a tube(hangup), and through the set time interval finished conversation.
In advance I am sorry for my bad English.
OdeeanRDeathshead said:
Sorry, but I just can't understand that :lol: .
... Please get someone to help you ask more clearly what you want and I may be able to add it in my product.
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OdeeanRDeathshead,
Do You add this function to your product?
I am still having a little trouble clearly understanding. Here is what it seems like....
either:
1)you want a program to answer a call then some time later hang up.
or
2)you just want a program to hang up calls after 5 minutes.
or
3)you want two programs, 1 to dial every 5 minutes and one to answer then hang up after 5 minutes.(at different ends)
Well I spent a couple of hours tonight modifying some stuff to help with some of this. I did two versions
version 1.
http://odeean.veritel.com.au/ORDTapiUser/ORDcallKill.exe
will just hang up automatically after just under 5 minutes (280000 milliseconds actually).
version 2.
http://odeean.veritel.com.au/ORDTapiUser/ORDcallKill2.exe
will wait 8 seconds then answer the call. It will then wait about 5 minutes then hang up.
These have NO interface. When you run them there will be no ongoing sign that they are there. Please remember that you may only run one of these at a time. The coding is just the bare bones of what was needed to do its thing, if you run it twice it will not check if it is running and a second instance will go. This will give unpredictable results. To stop them you must soft reset your device. Sorry about that, but I just did not want to spend much time on this. when you run them a warning will pop up followed by a message asking what device to use, only press yes to the phone (normally cellular line).
I have tested these and they work for me. I would like to know if they work for you. The version that dose not auto accept a call but still hangs it up relies on a strange behaviour in tapi on ppc that in my opinion is a bug. For this reason the life of this code may be short (i have not tested it on wm2005 and do not expect it to work on it. I dose work with previous versions).
If you want a program to do the auto dialling it is easy enough, but I did not want to spend time making a gui and I was still a bit unclear on what you want anyway.
I am an airline pilot and noticed a bug with my HD. It seems that after putting the phone in Flight Mode, it is not turning off the "radio" every time. During flight I clip my holster/phone fairly close to where my aviation headset cord is routed so I know immediately if my phone is not turned off as I can hear the GPRS data transfer clicking through the headset.
I have tried "Flight Mode" and "Phone Off" but it only works some of the time. Amazingly, the screen shows an X for the radio and an X for my Edge connection but there is no question that the radio is still on. The radio is only turning off about 30% of the time from what I can tell. On one occasion, after putting it in flight mode and seeing the X's, I was able to place a call (although again, not every time)
Another good indicator that this is happening is when I turn the radio back on (turn flight mode off) the signal indicator pops up almost immediately. Normally after turning the radio on it takes about 10-15 seconds to connect to the system so I believe it never disconnected to begin with.
Thankfully, the new full power-down method of holding the power switch in is coming in handy until I can figure this out. I will experiment a little more on my next trip.
Kind of funny when the Captain is not complying with the Flight Attendants instructions to turn of those damn cell phones!!
Any one else notice this?
Regards,
Gordo
jetjockgordo said:
I am an airline pilot and noticed a bug with my HD. It seems that after putting the phone in Flight Mode, it is not turning off the "radio" every time. During flight I clip my holster/phone fairly close to where my aviation headset cord is routed so I know immediately if my phone is not turned off as I can hear the GPRS data transfer clicking through the headset.
I have tried "Flight Mode" and "Phone Off" but it only works some of the time. Amazingly, the screen shows an X for the radio and an X for my Edge connection but there is no question that the radio is still on. The radio is only turning off about 30% of the time from what I can tell. On one occasion, after putting it in flight mode and seeing the X's, I was able to place a call (although again, not every time)
Another good indicator that this is happening is when I turn the radio back on (turn flight mode off) the signal indicator pops up almost immediately. Normally after turning the radio on it takes about 10-15 seconds to connect to the system so I believe it never disconnected to begin with.
Thankfully, the new full power-down method of holding the power switch in is coming in handy until I can figure this out. I will experiment a little more on my next trip.
Kind of funny when the Captain is not complying with the Flight Attendants instructions to turn of those damn cell phones!!
Any one else notice this?
Regards,
Gordo
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Is it really necessary to turn off mobile phone these days? I might have mistaken, but recall reading somewhere that some airlines are going to permit the use of mobile phone as they don't really affect safety. True or false? Or it is just rumours?
Not in USA
eaglesteve said:
Is it really necessary to turn off mobile phone these days? I might have mistaken, but recall reading somewhere that some airlines are going to permit the use of mobile phone as they don't really affect safety. True or false? Or it is just rumours?
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The USA has made it clear that it will not approve the use of cell phones in flight because not enough in known about what potential problems may exist if allowed to do so. In Europe, some countries have approved a "Pico Cell" system that places a cell repeater, or effectively a cell tower, on the aircraft so cell phones using the system will throttle to their lowest setting. Since all new cell phones can adjust their power/signal output in response to their proximity to a cell site, airborne phones attempting to communicate with ground towers pose the greatest threat to aircraft systems. There has even been some discussion of putting a Pico Cell on aircraft to throttle back phones that have been left on inadvertently just to lessen the chance of interference.
I will admit that my phone can impede my ability to hear the air traffic controllers if my phone is on and I can also tell if a controller has their phone near their headset jack. It is not uncommon to hear the telltale clicking of a GSM phone receiving a call or pinging a cell tower while talking to someone on the aircraft radio.
As I fly a rather advanced commercial jet, I have seen a noticeable increase in system "anomalies" over the years (most just nuisance stuff, not dangerous!) but the big question begs: Do you REALLY want to take a chance? I am an advanced techno geek and licensed aircraft mechanic and I am the first to make sure my phone is off.
For Flight Attendants it has become a nightmare of electronic gadgets on every flight and they are just complying with regulations when bugging passengers. Their concern is someone from the FAA might be on board and may notice that they are not enforcing the regulation and get violated. My worry is something eventually may happen that can be attributed to the use of PED's (Portable Electronic Devices) causing a ban on carrying PEDs as a shotgun method to make sure it is turned off.
Regards,
Gordo
dang! i had a similar experience today while we were preparing for takeoff. i put the HD in flight mode, put the phone in my shirt pocket, somehow dialed voicemail and i could hear the voice prompts. fortunately, we hadn't taken off yet so i just powered off the phone. i don't know if it was delayed going into airplane mode or not. an hour into the flight i turned the HD on and had no issues with it in flight mode.
Thanks for your very detailed explanation. Appreciate it.
Does it not also pose danger if we just change the setting to flight mode then? Or is it just the GSM portion that is giving the interference?
So, as long as it is in flight mode, we can safely use the "non-phone" features such as game, word procesing, dictionary, etc, right?
I had always wanted to know, because in the past, I had received different information from the flight attendants. Some of them would want me to stop using my PDA all together, while some did not seem to be bothered.
Glad to have two commercial pilots here to give us authoritative information.
Another question that I have is, if an HD with flight mode on does not completely disable the GSM signal as it should, would the interference be significant enough since we're so far from the cockpit?
If the interference of a passenger HD with flight mode on is still emitting significant interference despite the distance from the cockpit, then I think we have an issue that must be brought to HTC's attention. If this is the only handset with this problem, should that require a recall by HTC???!!
Gordo, have you tried getting one of your flight attendence to bring your HD with flight mode on to the passenger cabin and see if the interference is still there?
Whatever is the FAA and JAA tolerance - it looks a real bug. I am a private pilot and constantly kept on the GSM as an additional security in case the aircraft radio or headset would go bad - to call the tower. the tickling of the GSM on the headset is a bit annoying, but since we fly at much lower altitudes than commercial aircrafts we are probably within the field of the GSM cells and switching between them at more reasonable rate.
Indeed, I also noticed that newer TAA (technologically advanced aircrafts), like the diamond da40 with G1000 Garmin glass cockpits, explicitly say in the AFM (aircraft flight manual) to switch off GSM or electronic devices since they COULD interfere with the on-board electronics. Notice that here we are speaking of few GSMs phones, not hundreds like in the case of Gordo which is definitely frightening: in a 747 you could have 1.6 kW of GSM radio emission!!! it could almost heat up the aluminum skin of the fuselage
Let me try to play with the registry and check how to do it. I cannot believe it is hardware related...
eaglesteve said:
Does it not also pose danger if we just change the setting to flight mode then? Or is it just the GSM portion that is giving the interference?
So, as long as it is in flight mode, we can safely use the "non-phone" features such as game, word procesing, dictionary, etc, right?
Another question that I have is, if an HD with flight mode on does not completely disable the GSM signal as it should, would the interference be significant enough since we're so far from the cockpit?
Gordo, have you tried getting one of your flight attendence to bring your HD with flight mode on to the passenger cabin and see if the interference is still there?
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The HD is not unique with regard to possible interference and my earlier description of interference from my phone (or my co-pilots phone) is noticeable only within a few feet of my aviation headset.
Use of the PED with the cell phone off (PDA part on) is considered safe during cruise flight. They ask that ALL electronic devices be turned off (including electronic noise canceling headphones eg: Bose) while operating in close proximity to the ground since takeoff and landing is classified as a "critical phase of flight". Heck, we are not even allowed to "chit-chat" on the flight deck until above 10,000 feet because of the importance of being vigilant on the task at hand.
The greatest concern from passenger phones is their proximity to navigational and communication antennas on the top and bottom of the aircraft and the proximity to the Avionics Bay (big room of system computers, navigation radios, communication radios). Each aircraft is configured differently and even though each system/computer is shielded from EMF and even EMP, the big issue is at what point can PED's break through those defenses?
As for my HD, I am just trying to understand why it looks like the radio and GPRS is off but, in fact, it remains on in many instances. I have only had my HD on one 4 day trip and noticed the problem on the last couple of flights so I intend to do more testing to find the best way to reproduce the anomaly. I might just bring my sons TMobile phone with me and place calls to the HD to find out if I can hear the interference in my headset while safely at the gate.
I am passing this on so you won't get an angry tongue lashing from an FA when your phone starts ringing during the takeoff roll after you though it was off!
I have to pass this story on also. In the early 90's (way before PED's and cell phones) I was operating a flight from Atlanta to Cincinnati and at cruise flight a very loud buzzing was heard from our radios. My co-pilot and I tried everything to establish communication with controllers but we could hear nothing through the loud buzz. After several minutes of trying different radios and frequencies, I called the lead Flight Attendant to walk through the cabin and see if anyone was using some kind of electronic device. A minute later the buzzing stopped and the FA called to say the only thing she found was a passenger using a 1960's vintage electric shaver in the aft lavatory. Turns out this old shaver had a brush type motor that emitted so much EMI that it rendered our radios useless! Of course, I submitted a safety report to our union over that.
Gordo
Thanks for your response and posts gentlemen. I find the information fascinating.
I'm also relieved that other than during take off and landing, we can still use our beloved HD, provided we set it to flight mode.
I will be sure to turn off my HD completely until HTC releases a fix.
And thank you for answering the off topic questions! I have always wondered how cell phones could be so critical to the plane's operation. I have especially wondered how it is OK to have PED's turned on during the flight, but not during take off and landing - thank you for clearing this up.
Oh, another question from one who has played some Flight Simulator a few years back. Sorry if it's a stupid one. When do you use VFR, and when do you use IFR? Is it, for instance, the way that you mainly use VFR as the rule of the thumb, and IFR is only used when needed (or vice versa)?
If HD is not unique in this regard, I doubt there will be a fix. After all, HTC could argue that we're supposed to turn them completely off during take off and landing anyway. Not sure if there is a need to completely turn them off mid air, but from I'm hearing, there is no need to go to that extreme. I supposed it would be preferable to do so, but I think airlines would not impose any unnecessary rules on the passenger from marketing viewpoint.
Would the professionals please correct me if I'm wrong, thanks.
pzucchel said:
Whatever is the FAA and JAA tolerance - it looks a real bug. I am a private pilot and constantly kept on the GSM as an additional security in case the aircraft radio or headset would go bad - to call the tower. the tickling of the GSM on the headset is a bit annoying, but since we fly at much lower altitudes than commercial aircrafts we are probably within the field of the GSM cells and switching between them at more reasonable rate.
Indeed, I also noticed that newer TAA (technologically advanced aircrafts), like the diamond da40 with G1000 Garmin glass cockpits, explicitly say in the AFM (aircraft flight manual) to switch off GSM or electronic devices since they COULD interfere with the on-board electronics. Notice that here we are speaking of few GSMs phones, not hundreds like in the case of Gordo which is definitely frightening: in a 747 you could have 1.6 kW of GSM radio emission!!! it could almost heat up the aluminum skin of the fuselage
Let me try to play with the registry and check how to do it. I cannot believe it is hardware related...
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Hmmm, this is an interesting discovery. I wonder if it will switch off by toggling the "phone" radio button in the Connection Manager?
Peppep said:
Oh, another question from one who has played some Flight Simulator a few years back. Sorry if it's a stupid one. When do you use VFR, and when do you use IFR? Is it, for instance, the way that you mainly use VFR as the rule of the thumb, and IFR is only used when needed (or vice versa)?
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Visual Flight Rules are used when the weather at an airport has clouds not closer than 1000 feet above the ground and the visibility is not less than 3 miles. Once airborne, VFR rules require (in general) that you stay a minimum of 500 feet below, 1000 above and 2000 feet horizontally from any clouds. If you are IFR rated (Instrument Rated=licensed to fly in weather less than listed above), you file an IFR flight plan and can then play in the clouds! People get confused between what is considered VFR/IFR conditions versus VFR/IFR flight regulations/procedures. John F Kennedy Jr. died while flying in VFR conditions (hazy with 5 miles visibility and no clouds) but over the ocean with no lights at night and no outside visual references, he needed IFR skills that he didn't have and thus lost control and crashed. Another 20 hours of IFR training towards his Instrument Rating would have given him the skills needed to fly solely by reference to his instruments. Non IR Private Pilots only get instrument training needed to get out of a cloud if one is flown into inadvertently, not sustained flight while multi-tasking/navigating.
Matterhorn said:
Hmmm, this is an interesting discovery. I wonder if it will switch off by toggling the "phone" radio button in the Connection Manager?
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That is what I am noticing, Flight Mode or the Phone button in CM are not turning off the "phone" although it looks as if it is off. My guess is the UI gets the command but the radio does not. I also have PhoneAlarm installed and will try that flight mode also but I really like the "Phone Disconnect" (full right button) long press that brings up the dialog box to turn on flight mode. It is quick and easy but doesn't seem to do the job every time.
Gordo
Hi,
I don't know if anyone from HTC reads this forum, but has anyone reported this problem to them, as it seems a pretty serious bug!
A bug report may have some extra weight coming from a commercial pilot too!
Cheers,
Ben
eaglesteve said:
If HD is not unique in this regard, I doubt there will be a fix. After all, HTC could argue that we're supposed to turn them completely off during take off and landing anyway. Not sure if there is a need to completely turn them off mid air, but from I'm hearing, there is no need to go to that extreme. I supposed it would be preferable to do so, but I think airlines would not impose any unnecessary rules on the passenger from marketing viewpoint.
Would the professionals please correct me if I'm wrong, thanks.
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Most airlines I travel on specifically allow phones and PDAs in 'flight mode' to be used during the flight (even the safety videos say: put your phone in 'flight mode' now before switching it off for take-off).
However it if turned out that 'flight mode' on lots of devices wasn't turning off the radios, then maybe they will withdraw permission for ANY use of your devices during the flight.
From a purely PR perspective, I don't think a company like HTC would dare not fix a bug like this. They presumably wouldn't want their products to be associated with any doubts over causing problems with air safety.
There is also the 'trade description' aspect. If they advertise a working 'flight mode' on their sales materials, then they have to provide it, or will be in breach of consumer laws (at least in some countries).
I do think that anyone who has experienced this problem should report it to HTC, and refer them to this thread too.
Regards,
Ben
ben_gb said:
Most airlines I travel on specifically allow phones and PDAs in 'flight mode' to be used during the flight (even the safety videos say: put your phone in 'flight mode' now before switching it off for take-off).
However it if turned out that 'flight mode' on lots of devices wasn't turning off the radios, then maybe they will withdraw permission for ANY use of your devices during the flight.
From a purely PR perspective, I don't think a company like HTC would dare not fix a bug like this. They presumably wouldn't want their products to be associated with any doubts over causing problems with air safety.
There is also the 'trade description' aspect. If they advertise a working 'flight mode' on their sales materials, then they have to provide it, or will be in breach of consumer laws (at least in some countries).
I do think that anyone who has experienced this problem should report it to HTC, and refer them to this thread too.
Regards,
Ben
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Air Carriers actually have gone a long way to permit as much as possible the use of PED's during the cruise part of the flight, (as a courtesy to Bussiness/first class pax mainly) but "transmitting" devices are fully forbidden, to the point of detailing even Bluetooth (mouse, headsets) devices. So I consider this a serious bug.
Hopefully we will get a fix, but I will check during my next flight, since I too had noticed the "surprisingly fast" signal pick up time.
If HD is not unique is this, should'nt the airline simply forbid the switching on completely rather than allowing the flight mode during take off and landing? Airline can't take the chance that some device are not completely stopping some of signal being transmitted IF it is true that this level of transmission affects take off and landing.
Unless I'm wrong, the impression I'm getting is that once the phone moves a few feet away from the pilot, then at flight mode, they will not be affected. Yes? No?
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Unless I'm wrong, the impression I'm getting is that once the phone moves a few feet away from the pilot, then at flight mode, they will not be affected. Yes? No?
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From directly affecting the pilots communication headsets, you are probable correct, however the real issue is the cabin has many areas in close proximity to antennas on the top and bottom of the fuselage, cable runs under the cabin floor, and avionics equipment/computers.
Interesting report here:
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/print/3069
and from NASA
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/archive/nasa/casi.ntrs.nasa.gov/20010066904_2001108092.pdf
It really seems that most likely a single cell phone left on may not cause trouble but the Airbus A380 holds over 500 passengers....what if one in five leave their cell phone radios on (including Bluetooth and WiFi transmitters) and are using 100 laptops, video games, noise canceling stereo headphones, etc. You get the idea, just read the first link above and you will understand.
Sorry to stray off topic a little here but I would really like to get more info from HD users if they think their phone/data transmitter is not turning off even though it looks like it is. I am trying to reliably reproduce the problem so I can find a remedy and not contend with annoying GSM clicks in my headset after we push from the gate and get scolded from my co-pilot that I forgot to turn off my phone (he/she can also hear the clicking through the intercom we use when that happens).
Regards,
Gordo
have you guys tried to just turn off the radio manually in comm manager instead of using airplane mode? Just wondering if that works instead.
For you that carry a GSM phone in the plane in case of a radio failure, beware that the GSM system was designed to allow communication in terrestrial vehicles, not in planes and it is affected by Doppler effect. If you are running faster than 200Km/h respect to the base station, the frequency tracking loop of the GSM cannot correct the Doppler offset, so you could not place a call to ground. With the airborne picocell it is different because it is not moving with respect to the passengers.
The bug you refer about the flight mode I think It's reallly a software bug. Switching off the radio chipset is very easy form a software point of view, all radio chips have registers that can be adressed by the processor to make them enter in power down or sleep conditions. (this is how the handset saves battery power). However, Windows Mobile is built on the premises that a IP data link is always available. This is a heritage from desktop computers. If your phone is configured to be always connected to the GPRS service (a G or 3G or H letter is present above the signal strength indicator), some applications which require "always on" feature like MSN, may try to connect to the data network "disregarding" the status of flight mode. You can try to open the task manager before setting the phone to flight mode and close all applications, to make sure you kill all processes that try to acces the network, not only the phone application, which is just one of them. In any case, a firmware update could fix this problem, I don't think they need to recall the devices.
This is a bit of a cool gimiky app well it's like 2 apps in one.
Anti theft so if your phone is moved (Picked UP) it makes a car alarm sound and if you put it down it makes the Blip Blip sound to say it's armed.
And the other is a sort of fun mode so if it is moved It will play pre recorded sounds like "Oi put me down!"
I suppose you could call it a warning mode.
Has anyone thought or is thinking about making this?
i geuss it would be very basic to make...
i dont programm, so here is the way i think it could be programmed..
make a programm wich when it runs polls the gsensor, when it detected a change greater than normal when lying on youre desk, or a change of orientation, it would play a wavefile...
that for the alarm part...
the activate could be accomplisched in the following way...
when activated the gesensor is detecting movement because you are handeling it...
when de device is still for a 5 seconds or so.. it plays the blibblib file, and then starts the polling of the sensor above...
to make this complete it would be neccesary to enter a simple pincode to deactive the alarm sound...
i actually tried to get into programming to make this.. but my efforts where came not even close... as long as i cant programm in basic, im lost
anyone with a bit of spare time who could code this?
Good idea
Its an Idea a friend suggested.
It sounds like a really easy app to make but as I don't make apps for mobiles yet I wouldn't know how to build one
I could help with the GUI interface.
the rules would be simple.
when the phone is jogged for about a second play a warning sound.
Then the phone is picked up and jogged violently play the alarm sound looping.
when the phone settles down again play the rearm sound.
The guy who did the lightsaber app could whip this one up
Sounds fun and useful espescially at home where kids tend to touch everything and move things around..
Hope this gets wind
Will it cost much battery?
I guess...
I don't think it will cost much battery, provided you don't keep picking it up!
indeed..
it just polling the gsensor... that shouldnt drain too much...
anyway, when i leave it lying at my desk its most of the time thetered anyway...
graficly it dont has to be very much...
This could be a very funny and useful tool!!!!
Have a barking dog noise when the phone is touched.
Have a woman screaming when the "alarm" is set off...
Have a GPS tracker tool triggered once this program is launched.
Have the camera activate once the alarm goes off
Have the phone shut off with a special lock code when in "scream" mode.
Good
So it's agreed. then.. who can we ask to make this?
norkoastal said:
This could be a very funny and useful tool!!!!
Have a barking dog noise when the phone is touched.
Have a woman screaming when the "alarm" is set off...
Have a GPS tracker tool triggered once this program is launched.
Have the camera activate once the alarm goes off
Have the phone shut off with a special lock code when in "scream" mode.
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Diamond's battery is only 900mAh, if GPS and camera are turned on, it will cost too much battery.
Athough Gsensor and Lightsensor cost little battery, but what I thought is, if the system should be always turned on (when screen is off)?
I don't know much about that, just guess~
Who can answer?
Good idea! Here is the car-locking sound!!
djfuego said:
This is a bit of a cool gimiky app well it's like 2 apps in one.
Anti theft so if your phone is moved (Picked UP) it makes a car alarm sound and if you put it down it makes the Blip Blip sound to say it's armed.
And the other is a sort of fun mode so if it is moved It will play pre recorded sounds like "Oi put me down!"
I suppose you could call it a warning mode.
Has anyone thought or is thinking about making this?
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(You sould change the title of your topic to get more intrest, like g-sensor car alarm?)
Dev note
The application could be set to activate when the backlight is inactive.
in a similar way to the S2unlock application in that respect.
Can you poll the G sensor less frequently to save battery life? every 0.5 seconds
I can't see how running this as well as other apps will kill the battery any faster than if you where playing Teeter for a long period.
i`m with stupid
anyways..
nobody who has posted here seems to have programming skills(incuding myself), but the idee is imho a good one..
we just need the app to do the basic alarm thing wich i posted already.. choosing youre own sounds for the different events would be nice tough...
i have no problem to manually activate the alarm(an thus it doesnt need to be "silent" in the taskmanager, otherwise the thing would go off in my pocket when i walk around.. just start teh exe and its active... when enter the correct pin it shuts down again..)
it could be possible to trigger an event, or a external program whenever a alarm is given.. this makes it easier for other developers/user to add functions they need, like a gps logger or wathever.. it doenst need to be hardcoded i mean... just a event trigger to an choosable exe would be suffient...
so...
in the meantime ill keep dreaming sombody does have the time...
but i think it would be a rather popular app when developed, a have seen already many question for software like this...
ill try to clarify in the hopes somebody gets inspirated
- start software
- 10 poll sensor for 5 seconds.
- 20 if valeus differ too much then goto 10 else goto 30
- 30 play sound1 (beebbeeb)
- 40 poll g sensor
- 50 store valeus x-y-z in file/memory Z
- 60 poll sensor, valeus x-y-z.
- 70 if valeus polled differ more compared to memory play sound2 (alarm) else goto 60
- 80 execute external command
- 90 if alarm is ringing execute pin-routine, if correct pin is entered terminate alarm exe
mah, i told you im not a programmer...... but hopefully it will clarify my idea about this software
furtermore.. changing the topictitle into [REQ] CarAlarm-like software would be more suited as topictitle
GUI
I've posted the GUI for the app
Great! Keep up te good work!!
the gui is just a grafical representation on how WE think it should work...
so far no-one has posted who is willing to code..
Is there nobody who wants to try to make a application?
Very good idea..I let my phone always behind on my desk and i am thinking that somebody looks into the phone. This is very usefull to protect my phone..
When is the program ready?
Hi there! I have a little experience with .NET CF programming, and took a look at this thread... Any way, this is my first post on this forum
I think this application is not so hard to program.. The only problem would be that in the Stand-by mode, the G-sensor cannot be polled (correct me if I`m wrong). All the applications are suspended (except for the notifications and usual phone processes).
I think the application would work OK if the alarm is triggered when the phone is picked up from the initial place and woken up from standby mode (e.g. if an unwanted person tries to take a look in your phone ).
This surely saves a lot of battery than preventing the phone to enter standby mode plus polling the G-sensor often).
So what do you guys think?
[Edit] I just found another way to poll the G-sensor every x seconds. The application can be opened even in stand-by mode, check the sensor values, then go back to sleep.
I´m currently working on this gadget but there are/were quite some problems:
1: The diamond has to stay on under all circumstances! If it goes into the suspend mode, the alarm program will also suspend and therefore stop polling gsensor values. This is solved.
2. How to disable or turn off the alarm? I decided to integrate two ways of handling this subject: 1. you can choose to turn it face down and the triggered alarm will stop, respectivly the alarm system will be disabled. 2. You can enter a self-chosen PIN. The problem with this is, that when the alarm system is active and you choose to enter the PIN to disarm it, you have be quick (3sec) otherwise the alarm will go off. If I wouldn´t handle it this way, a thief could snatch the phone and try to enter a PIN while pausing the alarm system doing so.
3. And this is point unfortunately is still not solved: I don´t know how to disable the hardwarebuttons (power, volume, home ...) of the diamond.
4. When finished I want to make a cab file from the project, so that installing is made easier.
So right now the gadget works, but problem No. 3 remains. If you do keep the diamond in a pouch or case it works ok but if you leave it uncovered, someone who tries to steal it, can disarm the alarm system.
Therefor I´m not really satisfied with my work so far and I don´t have much time around this time of the year because I´m married, have a little daughter and still need to do christmas shopping; then come the festivities...
I guess if I can manage to control the hardware buttons I can post the completed project sometime in January.
bye,
Thilo
I'm on O2 in the UK, and since Christmas, I have been irritated by calls every couple of weeks from two or three numbers. They will ring a dozen times over the course of an hour and all I get is a slow beep beep beep when I answer. It may sound minor but it is driving me up the wall. There is no means of finding out who is doing it, I have Googled and Googled - all it shows up is these are well known nuisance calls and others suffer the same.
What can I do - is there some means of barring those particular numbers? Can someone recommend some third party software which would do the trick?
I have registered with TPS, but it makes no difference.
Any suggestions?
TIA
rjstep3
Download something called Magicall.
thanks, already downloaded and I'll give it a try.
rjstep3
I also found a free alternative, http://www.pocketpcfreeware.mobi/download-call-firewall-v1-4.html
Maybe you could test this as well (since you have plenty of test opportunities) and let us know how that works
magicall is my first choice. it's able to block calls silently
Call firewall works great on my hd2. Been looking for a while for a call blocker.
Doesnt ring, but lights up the phone, and gives me the missed call notification.
No idea how it will handle blocking sms, but we can wait and see.
For free software, does brilliantly
I've gone and loaded Magicall now, so will try that first.
The nuisance callers only call every two weeks or so, and since I have had this fortnight's quota of nuisance calls today - sigh - I'm going to have to wait a couple of weeks before seeing if it does the business.
thanks for the suggestions anyways
rjstep3
being the trial on magicall 10days, it may not last until next time
OK - Plan B: load Magicall on my Touch HD in time for the next attack of nuisance calls and use the freeware option on the HD2!!
rjstep3
I decided to buy Magicall - it seems to do more than the freeware product plus starts automatically on reboot.
Just had a series of nuisance calls and it worked like a dream.
rjstep3
you could call O2 and ask them very nicely to block the numbers and they will normally oblige without hesitation. If had seen this thread sooner i would have suggested it and maybe saved you some cash but it may help future people searching for the answer.
M3PH said:
you could call O2 and ask them very nicely to block the numbers and they will normally oblige without hesitation. If had seen this thread sooner i would have suggested it and maybe saved you some cash but it may help future people searching for the answer.
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O2won't do that - they say it is impossible because they do not keep a record of numbers in so cannot block calls.
The whole nuisance call thing is very vexing - there is in practical terms nothing you can do about it. TPS won't investigate individual complaints, Ofcom will just take a record of your complaint and won't investigate individual complaints, the Information Commissioner's Office won't investigate unless you can say who it is who is bugging you, which of course you can't, it is either caller unknown or just a number. Very vexing as I say - I am seriously tempted to take it further.
rjstep3
rjstep3 said:
O2won't do that - they say it is impossible because they do not keep a record of numbers in so cannot block calls.
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If they don't keep a record of the numbers then how do they manage to connect any calls in the first place? i think you've been fobbed off there mate but i'm not surprised. We are talking about a network that house all their primary systems, without any redundency, in one building. I think you will remember what happened about 2 months ago now concerning said building, a builder, his shovel and a power cable.
All good points MP3H - but that is what they told me.
Actually Ofcom told me to persist and that the person handling the call wouldn't help and I would have to write in and that sort of thing is handled at a senior level - sort of like protection for VIPS and celebs and that sort of thing. I wanted instant relief, a not painful experience of writing to my mobile operator - and we all know how protracted and painful that can be ...
You could well be right - I can't believe that technology cannot bar a series of numbers, it must be possible.
rjstep3
I got MagiCall for the same reasons and I can honestly say it was worth buying... does calls by Known numbers, Unknown numbers, contacts etc plus does the same for texts... you can decide what is done and I really like the way it can deal with those who with hold their caller ID, it just hangs up on them with slightly annoying beep at their end.... defo worth the investment..
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plus starts automatically on reboot.
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for that, you can add the .lnk to the program in windows\startup, anyway I also checked out the complete feature list of magicall, and it completely outsmarts the freeware program
Last night I got one of those cheap Chinese smartwatches for $40 locally. (Amazon seems to have some for $20 at amzn.to/2qpSftK) Yeah I know, I know, but I work at a job that is anal about cell phones (a major gripe of mine the way places can be that way) and I need to know if my child's ride at school doesn't show up or if school lets out early due to a power outage etc, if that happens then I HAVE to pause what I'm doing and make a call or two to make pickup arrangements or else it's a legal issue of child abandonment. Such may only happen 2-3 times an entire school year, but it has happened a few times--my mother-in-law's battery was dead and she was running late, or she couldn't find her keys etc--in such cases I had to track down someone locally and get them to step-in, last minute.
Thus, I need a smartwatch which can relay calls which have come in so I can see them and it also needs to push SMS messages and let me reply to them, that way without even pulling my phone out of my pocket I will know if this has occurred (and can quickly reply to SMS) but I can otherwise keep my phone in my pocket knowing beyond any shadow of a doubt that if a call or SMS has come in, this watch WILL pick it up and I WILL be able to reply to them.
This watch I got, it is fine with relaying phone calls and it even relayed the audio from a YouTube video I was watching on the phone itself, but it WILL NOT WORK with relaying SMS. At first it did, such requires installing a "BT Notifier" on the phone (which is the best?) but even then it was hit or miss, and then it just stopped. I've done EVERYTHING in terms of different BT Notifier apps, I even scanned the "OCR Code" or whatever to point to the BT Notifier specific to that model (it appears to be a GT08 type, with the "fan" style of icons, menu/phone on the bottom left and names/text on the right, this YouTube video Ksy0pd-12BI shows one like it), I set that app up--no matter, IT WILL NOT push SMS to this smartwatch, no way/no how.
Is this a common occurrence with such smartwatches? Is this a case of that I'm going to have to just accept this model CANNOT handle SMS no matter what and get something else, vs being able to actually fix this? One model I had read good things about in an article (BIT and 2lTVoxg) called the OUMAX Bluetooth Smart Watch S6 for around $50, this model looked like a good one because it downplays "fitness" features I do not at all need and instead stresses pushing smartphone notifications and being able to replay to them, which is what I DO need. I started to get it on Amazon but then it would've required several days to get here and I need something up & running quickly but without spending $250. Maybe I should've just gotten that and waited?
Tips in general?
If anyone has any tips please do reply, I am only say this because I have an update but that doesn't mean I am not still looking for help.
I've somehow got it working just fine, no timing out of connectivity or any such thing. I had saved the downloaded BT Notifier .apk file from the app it referenced in the barcode I scanned, and I tried again but this time I disabled an app I've used on the phone for a long time--NoLED, which displays a moving dot on the LCD when notifications arrive, making it unnecessary to "wake up" the phone to see missed calls etc. I've used that app for forever, it's a long-time staple of mine, but I wondered if it was possibly interfering with this process.
I'm not sure if that is the case, but since disabling it (but also turning the watch off and letting it charge to full overnight) it's working great today. I possibly could get beyond that eventually but for now I'll take it, I mean having a smartwatch does somewhat make it less necessary anyway. The only issue now--the band, it won't attach and it's apparently a permanent part of the watch's structure, not easily swapped out. I'm not sure how I'll get around that, maybe stitching another watch band on top of it using a sewing kit?
Ultimate Fix: Watch-Specific App/Disable/Install 3rd Party
I'm somewhat disappointed in the lack of replies. Is this because this watch is now perhaps an older model, or what is the reason?
In any case, I now have the ultimate fix.
It's 3 things:
(1) Install the watch-specific app by scanning the QR code and "sideloading" the app
(2) "Force Stop" this app in Google settings but DO NOT uninstall it, leave it installed.
(3) Install the 3rd party app by "Shenznen Fan Yun Technology Co, Ltd" (green background, white circle with exclamation point) then under the "Accessibility" enable the second "BT Notifications" entry, leave the 1st one at OFF
When I got this watch, the first thing I did was download that 3rd party app, it worked some but not consistently, then it totally stopped. I then stumbled across the QR code in the watch, scanned it, installed that app, and that worked--but that app was FULL of adware, constantly bugging me to install this app or that, launching a new tab and page in my Chrome browser, and just being a total pain. I was glad the watch worked, but hated that behavior--so much I disabled the app, figuring I'd just have to re-enable it when the watch was being used.
On a hunch, eager to try again, with the watch-specific app still disabled, I downloaded the 3rd party "Shenznen Fan Yun Technology Co, Ltd" app and, just totally guessing, under "accessibility" enabled the 2nd entry (both entries have identical names so you can't tell which is which), but didn't uninstall the watch-specific app only because I figured that I would end up having to revert back to it anyway.
To my surprise, this has worked. It seems to require me turning the watch off and connecting through the watch initially, but however I get a connection and the SMS message log on the phone populates on the watch, at that point it is stable and reliable from that point on. I had it running today all-day and was receiving texts and the inbox was coming up reliably.
I hope this helps somebody. (Note: this watch is still being sold as eBay item #381686066028.)