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anybody use pocketCM keyboard

anybody try this PocketCM keyboard for htc touch??
like iphone keyboad....very fast....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&NR=1

this the screen shot....nice application and its free..
iphone look a like keyboard

http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php

The author asked for the app not to be posted as it's a Beta
But you can keep up with its progress here:
http://www.pocketcm.com

I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch.
If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.

elfman said:
I have to say that this is a killer app for the Touch. If you have a Touch you really must install this software. It's awesome.
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It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?

Best SIP outside of phonepad!
Contact Manager is also a must for a touch user!

any1 tried to disable the dictionary? seems like its very troublesome for me as i cant type shortform.
EDIT - To disable the dictionary its in the setting -> input -> option

Only became very usable for me with "Enable Suggention" NOT selected.

carlosp_uk said:
It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
Go to the website, or check out the youtube vid
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t0Zhys5tWE&eurl=http://pocketcm.com/screenshot.php?v=3
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samawil said:
The whole point of this keyboard is that you don't have to make sure you touched the right key...you just type the word, and if you typed "rgw", it'll change it to "the" because it looks at blocks of letters, almost like t9...you type and in the end the right word should be there...
it's head and shoulders above the kb that comes with any wm phones...
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Whilst I agree that this is a good idea, it just doesn't work for me, I'm afraid. I think that I, and perhaps others, tend to type at least one or two non-dictionary words per text/message. I also use capital letters and punctuation a lot and, as I mentioned, I have very big hands!
I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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carlosp_uk said:
It's a lovely, good-looking piece of software, but ultimately just doesn't work for me.
I've tried keyboards on touch-screen devices but ultimately none really work for me - I think my fingers and thumbs are just too big! Also, if you are typing fast you don't really have time to check each letter before releasing your fingers from the keyboard, so the visual feedback is rendered pointless. Typing capital letters is a faff too.
The best I've found has been phonepad. Perhaps a combination of the two might be worthwhile, e.g. a phonepad with visual feedback?
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Have you tried Tengo Thumb?

I'm not saying it's no good, in fact as I mentioned I think that it's a brilliant program, I recommend everybody tries it out and reaches their own conclusions too.
It would be good if there were a way to auto-select the input (SIP) method on a per-program basis, e.g. so that PocketCMKeyboard came up automatically for text messages, but then it was the standard keyboard for other text entry. Perhaps this can already be done, I don't know.
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I see...you can add words to it too
off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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samawil said:
off subject a little, your sig says that if we like your program we can buy you a beer...what is your program?
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totally off subject but it's "Touch Settings", the program to customise all the programs on the cube/mediahub and weather settings etc. I should change my sig though as it keeps popping up OT. !

I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.

spartanrob said:
I really like this keyboard, almost better than HTK. It would be nice if the period (.) were on the alpha keyboard an not the number keyboard.
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It kind of is, just tap & hold the symbol key (lower LHS) and you get the . slide a little to the right & get the other most common punctuation marks.

You may want to try this skin...
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
Post #488
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49

yes this is indeed the best keyboard for ppc.

hey I recently bought an HTC touch and came across this excellent software*kudos to the one who programed it* I would like to ask for help in using this. I downloaded it through my touch directly then nstalled it on the phone memory and went to settings and input then selected PCM Keyboard and then ok but nothing happens I'm still stuck with the same old little keyboard help please thanks

2manyphones said:
I added the period and comma on the main text screen. This works very well for my Touch.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=321712&page=49
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Thanks a lot for this! This is exactly what I wanted in the PCM Keyboard! I was getting sick of opening the full screen PDAMedia Keyboard. I like to see what I type

htc Touch Dual Keypad

New cab with working files (all three keyboards) no key appearing fixed and some other bugs (still a couple popping up though) can't wait tell JUVS and some of the other guys get more of the new apps working. Thank you theloanranger !
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336587&page=10
Cab file was be switched to new one
Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29

nice sig with rampage, fedor and don fry
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Didn't see anyone working on this in this section (seems focused in Elf right now) thought I would put it out there, seems you can get it working on non touch devices
forum
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1595623&postcount=29
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works!
it works on my orbit, would like to have dutch language support though...

htc keyboard
can we have vga theme for key board?

no good on my hermes !

leoiden said:
no good on my hermes !
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damn i'll try on hermes too ....and on my artemis ....
but in my ce emulator it also didn't work fully correct....
sometimes i just get black buttons....

It works on my Trinity (WM6) but not the symbol page. But I'm ok with it. Like the 'intelligence' of this over T9, but the scroll left and right (on screen) button is a bit too 'small' and near the edge for ease of scrolling. If that can be fixed, it will be even more perfect.

no good for elf
when i set in french language they a are no letters on keypad
thank you

Anyone manage to 'perfect' this beta version?
While it is useable, without the symbol can pose some inconvenience when you need the symbols.

It works fine on my touch. To get the symbols in blue you press and hold the key. It takes a little getting used to so you don't end up with .. but it does work.
For those getting blank screens, this should only happen when you bring up the keypad without selecting a text field. Meaning if you are in a selected text box the keys should display.
Another bug I found was if you install this keypad and then choose another one that you have installed (pocketCM, HTK, etc), it will not display any text. It's like you are typing in white. The cursor advances, but no text displays. I had to un-install this keypad to get my other input methods to work.
It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21) and every time I was able to type faster and more accurate with the pocketCM version. It was close (1:11 vs 1:08) for a couple sentances. I'm glad to see HTC putting a real finger operational keyboard on the Touch, but for now I will stick with pocketCM.

works on the mogul, install, soft reset...

2manyphones said:
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It may sound a little obsesive, but I timed myself using this new touch dual keypad and my pocketCM skin (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1597831&postcount=21)
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Nah man, that's a great idea. I think a "type-off" of sorts is a good way to determine what's best; although everyone has difference preferences, I think 90% of us subconsciously type the same.

any status on a new version that works a little better?
thx.
e..b

working on Hermes!
Its working fine on my Hermes WM6. Still get the blank buttons when trying to use it outside an application. But within application (e.g. Onecontact, IE ect..) all working fine. Even symbol key is working fine.
Its a great keyboard (esp. the T9 version)...First keyboard where the buttons are large and responsive (iv used sooo many now!).

btw...dont forget to softreset after installation before use!

No symbols
I get all the characters and numbers but the symbols are all blank. I am in the UK. Otherwise it's okay. I personally don't like PocketCM because unless there is lots of free memory it just pops up the default keyboard for me.

is there any way to turn the xt9 off i used the keypad for 5 mins adn when i switched to the normal keyboard the xt9 was still there.. can it be turned off?

^^yeah I found that incredibly annoying, I LOVE this keyboard but I had to uninstall it because the T9 would be there even when using the hardware keyboard!

Can anyone post any pics of this keyboard?

Yeah...T9 still there on hardware keyboard is really annoying!

Where does this keyboard come from?

I have the 16 key touch dual.
So on input options, you have the touch keypad, when I select that sometimes this comes out (please see attached)
I like it thought better than the 20 key touch keyboard.

Yeh... Where?
I second this, it works really well but there is no option to bring it up on the dual... it just randomly appears sometimes when you need to input text.

Thirded.
And whats more, why does text input seem to vary on web pages?
I've got some where it defaults to numeric input when it should be alpha numeric (ie. passwords), others where XT9 seems to be off (the subject on mails in facebook).
Its so stupidly all over the place and inconsistent! If I could just get this one to pop up all the time I'd be happy.

Doesn't that keyboard show when there's no text entry field?
And yes, i want it too, why would they disable it for normal usage?

Yeh I have found the keyboard to be all over the place when it comes to deciding if it will give you tx9, abc, 123, etc.... Anyone know a way to set one of the two alphanumerics as a default at least?

ok ive had this appear a few times now but couldnt figure out why, as you have been asking for it i have been playing around and think i know what is causing it. you may not need everything listed below but these are the settings on my device if you play around with them you should be able to narrow it down.
I'm running Toms rom, found here
i have disabled threaded sms by using the second setting here
i have enabled the favourite people button on the htc home screen by deleteing the key here
the only other app i have that may have changed a setting is the HTC home customiser.
After making these changes tick the enable xt9 setting in romsettings app, exit the app, then go back into it and untick the enable t9 setting, after closing romsettings you should have the keyboard shown in the second screen shot
as far as i can see this changes the keyboard in all applications

Thats great! Still albeit of a noob so you lost me somewhere there, is there a way to this on the stock ROM?

short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.

kerrance76 said:
short answer is i dont know. try looking for an applcation called rom settings after installing it there is a t9 setting. untick it and closethe application if this makes no dfference you may want to try altering the other settings and then trying again until it works.
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Ok will try that thanks. On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?

I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.

muzikfreakah said:
On the side, when you untick "T9" does this make "abc" default text entry as well?
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I wish, this has been a problem since the phones release - theres 7 pages on it here

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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thats the default action anyway, with the changes detailed the keyboard is available when entering text, if you look at the second image you will see that the cursor is actually in the message box, its the black line at the end of the word hello

muzikfreakah said:
I have confirmed that this keyboard layout come out when no text entry is needed.
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Eh? Maybe I overdosed on the thick pills last night, but that doesn't make any sense? If I click on a password field in IE, sometimes the main phone keypad always seems to default to numeric entry. But clicking in the field itself pops up this lovely keyboard.
It really does make no sense at all. There doesn't appear to be any standard/global keyboard settings.
And this is in v6 of WinMo, you would have thought they would have got the basics right by now, but the darned sent items has the useless option of "order by from" - when all the sent items are sent from the same person.
Its got plenty of potential, but it just seems like lots of separate teams were implementing it, doing their own thing without any centralised discussion/design.

Has anyone managed to get this to work with the standard T-Mobile [UK] ROM ?

any updates on this as well? it would be nice to just get an option for this

I got it to work, rather by chance, but thing is after that, I could switch to back to the touchpad type anymore.
I installed POCKETCM KEYBOARD. After doing that, somehow it locked this keyboard in when I choose touchpad.
Its rather a workaround, but for those who to use it premanently, you can do it

it also shows up at times when you are entering a password

Ouch ! I read to quickly and did'nt see the word "permanently" !
It does the same for me after installing pocketpc keyboard and even after uninstalling it !!!
Did you find a way to get the classic keyboard back ? This one is nice but there are some important keys missing as "." and a key to hide the keyboard !
Thanks
EDIT : The installation of Resco Keyboard got all the original settings back + Resco Keyboard of course.
So if you need to use the famous "hidden HTC keyboard", simply install Resco Keyboard and then Pocketpc keyboard.
You will then have your classic "touch" keyboards replaced by the "hidden keyboard" (+Resco Keyboard installed of course).
But to my mind, Resco keyboard alone is better...

Keyboards

I have had a good look around and search and tried and tried, but I can't find the keyboard I used to use. It's just like the standard HTC keyboard, except with numbers along the top row. If anyone could point it one out, I think it was in Hellonasty Mary rom?, I loved it, didn't keep having to hit the pesky "123" button when I needed numbers.
(like the one in the attachment, but the one I had and want was not coloured blue, it was just clear)
Cheers in advance
Pugzi

It's the resco pro keyboard.

does anybody have the keyboard plug-in that lets you type like a regular number pad? the keyboard is really hard to type if you have fat fingers

you can use this
Code:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2180706&postcount=1

Pugzi said:
I have had a good look around and search and tried and tried, but I can't find the keyboard I used to use. It's just like the standard HTC keyboard, except with numbers along the top row. If anyone could point it one out, I think it was in Hellonasty Mary rom?, I loved it, didn't keep having to hit the pesky "123" button when I needed numbers.
(like the one in the attachment, but the one I had and want was not coloured blue, it was just clear)
Cheers in advance
Pugzi
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with the keyboard you have now try this .. press the arrow to select SIP go to option and choose smal keys insted of large keys

PCM Keyboard VGA Diamond Skin

I don't know about you people, but I was so used to the automatic spelling correction of PCM Keyboard, that I found the Manila full querty to be a real step backwards. I also don't like the way the letter pop-up preview is actually covered by the fingers used to press the keys.
The only problem with PCM Keyboard, so far, has been the lack of a good VGA skin for it, so here is a Diamod themed skin I made for version .14 (the latest stable version).
The actual keyboard software is free and can be downloaded here: PCM Keyboard
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Edit: I am also including my own layout, for those interested. You have to place it in the PCM Keyboard folder and select it from the options. here's what it does:
1. holding down the apostrophe brings up accented letters etc.
2. holding down the quote brings up the rest of accented letters etc.
3. holding down the 123 key brings up useful punctuation.
See thumbnails for details.

Looks good... would it be possible for you to post a landscape image?
Thanks.

Drybonz said:
Looks good... would it be possible for you to post a landscape image?
Thanks.
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Crap, I never use landscape mode, and I can't find screen rotation in the Diamond?

edan said:
Crap, I never use landscape mode, and I can't find screen rotation in the Diamond?
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You could just pop up the keyboard in Opera landscape... or try the new Gyrator2 app that just got released.

Well, I started using your skin and I love it.
I really like the keypad style number layout. Works so much better for me than the qwerty "numbers in a straight line" layout.
Also, this is the best landscape keyboard layout I have seen. I replaced Touchpal because the landscape is not so hot. Now that Gyrator is working on my phone I needed a good landscape keyboard.
I can type so much faster now.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

edan said:
I don't know about you people, but I was so used to the automatic spelling correction of PCM Keyboard, that I found the Manila full querty to be a real step backwards. I also don't like the way the letter pop-up preview is actually covered by the fingers used to press the keys.
The only problem with PCM Keyboard, so far, has been the lack of a good VGA skin for it, so here is a Diamod themed skin I made.
The actual keyboard software is free and can be dowbloaded here: PCM Keyboard
All comments welcome...
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Any chance you can upload DiamondSkin2? Or do i have to edit it myself? How?

Those two thumbnails refer to the same skin. One is simply showing it in an SMS and the other is in Word.

edan said:
Those two thumbnails refer to the same skin. One is simply showing it in an SMS and the other is in Word.
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Weird cos this is what i'm getting on my Touch Pro. It's missing "," & "."
Just wondering.....any chance you can make the format like those i've attached?

Scann69 said:
Weird cos this is what i'm getting on my Touch Pro. It's missing "," & "."
Just wondering.....any chance you can make the format like those i've attached?
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What you are talking about is affected by the keyboard layout file, not the skin. Look in the PCM Keyboard folder on your touch pro and you will see a file like "english.layout" or whatever you chose as your layout.
Open that up in notepad and change the keys to whatever you want. There is a lot of information on the PCM Keyboard site linked in the first post regarding layout customization. The skin will adapt itself to whatever you do with your layout file.
To place the comma and period on the sides of the spacebar as in my thumbnails change your "keyboard_layout_1=" in your file to:
Code:
keyboard_layout_1=qwertyuiop\nasdfghjkl'\n\2zxcvbnm\B\B\n\M\M, .\N\N

very nice !!!
thanks

I decided to include my custom layout. It's English, though it does have a ton of special letters and symbols. The numbers pad is pretty complete as well.

edan said:
What you are talking about is affected by the keyboard layout file, not the skin. Look in the PCM Keyboard folder on your touch pro and you will see a file like "english.layout" or whatever you chose as your layout.
Open that up in notepad and change the keys to whatever you want. There is a lot of information on the PCM Keyboard site linked in the first post regarding layout customization. The skin will adapt itself to whatever you do with your layout file.
To place the comma and period on the sides of the spacebar as in my thumbnails change your "keyboard_layout_1=" in your file to:
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keyboard_layout_1=qwertyuiop\nasdfghjkl'\n\2zxcvbnm\B\B\n\M\M, .\N\N
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Thank you so much for the explaination Managed to get it the way i like it already

Scann69 said:
Thank you so much for the explaination Managed to get it the way i like it already
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Edan, I am interested in changing the "123" button to "abc" when on the number screen (a technicality, but would look nice). Just wondering if this can be edited in the layout file or if it is theme specific.
Also, have you tried your skin on the .15 version of PCM? I noticed they have more customization options in that version.
Thanks.

Drybonz said:
Edan, I am interested in changing the "123" button to "abc" when on the number screen (a technicality, but would look nice). Just wondering if this can be edited in the layout file or if it is theme specific.
Also, have you tried your skin on the .15 version of PCM? I noticed they have more customization options in that version.
Thanks.
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I have managed to create a new key with an ABC button. The real problem lies in assigning an action (switch layout to layout 1) in the .ini file.
Almost everything related to customizing version .14 has been removed from the site. So, it's a little hard now... unless we can get some tips from the author.
Version .15 is not even beta stage, and is extremely unstable on the diamond. It's really just a big mess at the moment... not worth the headaches...

edan said:
I have managed to create a new key with an ABC button. The real problem lies in assigning an action (switch layout to layout 1) in the .ini file.
Almost everything related to customizing version .14 has been removed from the site. So, it's a little hard now... unless we can get some tips from the author.
Version .15 is not even beta stage, and is extremely unstable on the diamond. It's really just a big mess at the moment... not worth the headaches...
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Yeah, I noticed they still claim .14 is the stable version but the tutorial is for .15. I wasn't able to get much further than changing a couple symbol keys in the layout file.
Anyway, thanks again for the great skin and please keep us updated if you make any changes.

Drybonz said:
Yeah, I noticed they still claim .14 is the stable version but the tutorial is for .15. I wasn't able to get much further than changing a couple symbol keys in the layout file.
Anyway, thanks again for the great skin and please keep us updated if you make any changes.
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Some problem. After like 2 minutes of use, my diamond crashed (really badly with numerous report error windows popping up). Some of the keys were not showing and some of the keys showed gibberish (some nonsense chinese words) - check out the first screenshot.
I believe it's because of the encoding when the layout files (both English layout and the one OP made) is saved. I tried opening the layout file in notepad and lots of the key assignments were gibberish. So, I tried opening it in Word and found out the original file was saved with Turkish Windows encoding. I opened it in the right encoding (so that all the keys were shown correctly) and then saved it back with unicode encoding. Then I put the revised file back to the PCM folder and it did wonders - check out the second screenshot.
So, an advice. If you find the keyboard is not showing what should be shown. Check out the .layout file that the OP posted and try modifying it and save it with another encoding (can be done in Word but not notepad). For my case (diamond with English ROM), unicode works for me.
I have attached the modified layout file (saved with unicode encoding). You can try this one if the original one doesn't work for you. No guarantee though.

I tried using the Diamond skin but the period and comma buttons are missing on the keyboard? I have to press the "123" to access the symbols keyboard. Can someone help please?

clue11 said:
I tried using the Diamond skin but the period and comma buttons are missing on the keyboard? I have to press the "123" to access the symbols keyboard. Can someone help please?
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Please read this thread. All the answers are here already.

Oops. completely missed that part. Sorry and thanks for the skin!

Edan, have you considered doing a PCM Contacts skin? VGA ones are hard to come by.