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Can you flash these with a WM6.5 Rom?

Just asking if anyone has attempted to flash the "Google" phones with a Windows mobile rom yet? Is it possible. Is anyone looking into it?

No its not possible, and GOD NO! Why the hell would you want to DESTROY a perfectly good phone with that CRAP?

I 100% agree with lbcoder,
why oh why would you want to flash it with a Windows Mobile OS ...

Oh FFS!!! WM on a sapphire....Android on a TD....WTF is wrong with you people??
You want one, buy it. you want the other, buy that. personally, after many years of WM, having been using android pretty much exclusively since i recieved a proto magic in early feb, i have no intention of going back!!
By the way....Nice to see you finally stopped trolling and started posting Jedi!

my god
The Numnuts

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missing the point
you guys are a little hard on the OP, a site like xda is all about getting android to run on winmo device and vice versa!

Hi,
I think that it could be very hard to use winmo in an android device. Android requires some specific hardware and I'm pretty sure, trying this, could be the better way to brick the phone :/
The bootloader isn't made for this... But maybe, it's possible anyway. Like the exploit to run debian over android (without changing anything). The limits of this system will surely be that android doesn't use a real X server (If I've well understand it uses some kind of framebuffer light X).
And to rejoin other voices... WHY, GOD WHY?!?

..agree with everyone's sentiment. Also, I don't think WM supports capacitive touchscreen displays.

TheStrider said:
..agree with everyone's sentiment. Also, I don't think WM supports capacitive touchscreen displays.
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This is true, besides a heap of drivers would need to be coded aswell.
If you want a Windows Mobile phone we can trade, you have my HTC Diamond with WinMo 6.5 and I'll have your HTC Magic

lbcoder said:
No its not possible, and GOD NO! Why the hell would you want to DESTROY a perfectly good phone with that CRAP?
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totally agree!

I'm pretty sure it's possible... Nothing is impossible. After all it is a "normal" phone with a Qualcomm chipset (The same as in several HTC phones + Xperia X1). Isn't Windows Phone (?) 7 supposed to support capacitive screens?

WM has more applications, thats one big reason. Its like comparing Windows with OS X, just because you got a Mac doesnt meen you want OS X. People buy stuff because they look good and at first dont think about what software they are going to use.
You cant run Age Of Empire or Duke Nukem on Android, etc.

If all you want is CRAP, but if you want crap, you should buy crap. There is no reason to buy this device when you want something different.
And no, it is not possible because of a lack of compatible drivers, and just because there are a few similar features doesn't mean that everything lines up. Fact is that it would be a *major* undertaking to run crap on these phones. To start with, you would have to write a new bootloader, and I doubt that that is going to happen since most real developers are more interested in converting wm phones to run android than the other way around.
And fyi: these devices dont have the right set of physical buttons to run wmcrap.

While I agree it would be neat to dual boot WinMo and Android on any hardware you wanted, I think it's pretty unlikely that anyone is going to bother going to all that effort since there are already hundreds of WinMo phones out there.

Windows Mobile 6.5 on N1

I know for many this sounds stupid and copletely unnecessary to do because android is so awesome ;P
but i was just wondering if its possible?
Regards,
j

Well, there's something that lets you dual-boot WinMo and Android on a WM device, optimized for 6.5. Dunno about the other way around, though.

dear sweet lord above, why would you pollute this device with winmo?

your right it is stupid ! winmo sucks !

see those answers are exactly what i was trying to avoid

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Well, there's something that lets you dual-boot WinMo and Android on a WM device, optimized for 6.5. Dunno about the other way around, though.
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yea i have that on my old i900 but i dont think it works the other way around, cheers tho

This has been asked once or twice before and the conversations just do not end well. It might be possible but it would require quite a bit of low level work, the bootloader (or whatever it is called in embedded systems) being a significant hurdle in and of itself. If you want winmo you are far better off going with an HD2 or waiting till something else comes out.

JanetPanic said:
This has been asked once or twice before and the conversations just do not end well. It might be possible but it would require quite a bit of low level work, the bootloader (or whatever it is called in embedded systems) being a significant hurdle in and of itself. If you want winmo you are far better off going with an HD2 or waiting till something else comes out.
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ok cool, thank you very much for your reply
cheers

i wouldnt mind dual booting in WinMo 6.5 or better yet to iPhone OS (to get all the good apps)

I'll probably through winmo7 on my nexus when it comes out.

wow, ANOTHER thread on this....

Wmware is releasing mvp soon. It runs on windows ce now but they are making it for android. Soon you will be able to run any os on your phone.
http://www.vmware.com/products/mobile/

screw that!
i rather hackintosh the nexus! i love my iphone only reason i got the nexus is for my 3g in tmobile in the us. i still have the grandfathered 5.99tzones and i get 3g all day. got the nexus unlocked for 529 with tax it was 570 i think.
imagine an iphone running snapdragon, oled screen, 5meg camera 512ram SWEET!!!
HACKINTOSH BEFOR WINMOBILE!

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I would definitely try WM on my nexus one.
I think those people that are saying, that android is so great that you do not need anything else, are stupid at least.
For example - try getting cracked navigation software working on your Nexus One...With WM you can have iGO working very well or Navigon or Tom Tom. You might say that you can use built in maps - but in Europe people are changing countries after driving few hundred miles - so data roaming would cost more than buying new GPS device...
So while I understand that you love your android, but there are plenty of good stuff on the "dark-side"...
Isn't HD2 hardware wise very similar to Nexus One? Wouldn't it be possible to put HD2 boot loader on Nexus One?

timothydonohue said:
dear sweet lord above, why would you pollute this device with winmo?
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I share that sentiment.

maktucali said:
i rather hackintosh the nexus! i love my iphone only reason i got the nexus is for my 3g in tmobile in the us. i still have the grandfathered 5.99tzones and i get 3g all day. got the nexus unlocked for 529 with tax it was 570 i think.
imagine an iphone running snapdragon, oled screen, 5meg camera 512ram SWEET!!!
HACKINTOSH BEFOR WINMOBILE!
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Ew. ifail OS on the Nexus, ala single task at a time on this hardware? Repulsive.

I want to convert my Sprint EVO to Windows 6.5 HOW????

Does anyone know how to convert a android Sprint evo ( HD2 ) to windows 6.5?
Has it been done?
All my software is windows based and I want to upgrade to HD2.
If someone can give me some direction and it has been done that would be nice. I have changed roms on my phone before but never PLATFORMS....
Can it be done?
Or do i need to buy a HD2 windows from Tmobile and unlock it?
Thanks for all the help
Chris

i dont think that will work, like, at all.
wimo wont have the drivers needed to properly utilize the hardware. buy a winmo phone, save yourself the headache.

We just answered this in the inproperly-posted topic on the dev board. There is also a topic about it on the Q&A board.

And you can't unlock an HD2 to work on sprint, just in case you were thinking of doing that.

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And you can't unlock an HD2 to work on sprint, just in case you were thinking of doing that.
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Looks Like I am Stuck on Sprint with my tp2

Coming from a wm65 background, I'm just going to say... Why?

100million said:
Does anyone know how to convert a android Sprint evo ( HD2 ) to windows 6.5?
Has it been done?
All my software is windows based and I want to upgrade to HD2.
If someone can give me some direction and it has been done that would be nice. I have changed roms on my phone before but never PLATFORMS....
Can it be done?
Or do i need to buy a HD2 windows from Tmobile and unlock it?
Thanks for all the help
Chris
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It's practically impossible. It's a task that would take a team of dedicated engineers weeks to achieve--for us at XDA, it'd be so impractical it might as well be impossible.
If you want/need Windows Mobile, buy a WinMo phone. Shoe-horning Android onto WinMo phones is different because it's all open source. WinMo is closed-source, so it's an entirely different animal.

Can we get a sticky on this topic? Seems some hapless person comes and asks this question at least once a week.
The answer is no. Nobody is going to put time and effort into porting an outdated piece of junk operating system that was created before George Burns crawled out of the ocean to your modern smartphone. If you want a crap operating system you're going to need to go buy a crap phone (possibly from your local thrift store or perhaps a museum).
When you're ready to join us all in the 21st century then get to know Android a little bit. If there is something you're missing from the Windows Mobile era it would be easier for you to get that functionality created for Android than to get Windows Mobile working on your phone and continue to be stuck in the dark ages.

Shidell said:
It's practically impossible. It's a task that would take a team of dedicated engineers weeks to achieve--for us at XDA, it'd be so impractical it might as well be impossible.
If you want/need Windows Mobile, buy a WinMo phone. Shoe-horning Android onto WinMo phones is different because it's all open source. WinMo is closed-source, so it's an entirely different animal.
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GUYS Thanks for all the help and work I gues i am stuck with TP2 until sprint gets off there butt and does something about it....or switch carriers

I could be wrong but I dont think winmo is coming out with anymore phones after the HD2 until that windows phone stuff. And they probably royally screwed themselves with that move by giving a ton of people the chance to try android who wont be going back.

100million said:
GUYS Thanks for all the help and work I gues i am stuck with TP2 until sprint gets off there butt and does something about it....or switch carriers
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Have fun with your new carrier. No one is going to release an new 6.5 phone. First WM 6.5 sucks, a lot, compared to other modern operating systems. Second, it's a dead operating system for the most part. With WM7 coming out this fall everyone is developing for that. 6.5 will stay around for a while in dedicated phones for the corporate state but it is dead for the consumer space.

brownhornet said:
I could be wrong but I dont think winmo is coming out with anymore phones after the HD2 until that windows phone stuff. And they probably royally screwed themselves with that move by giving a ton of people the chance to try android who wont be going back.
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Microsoft KIN

mrono said:
Microsoft KIN
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LOL.
If you want a winmo EVO, switch to T-Mobile and get an HD2. Otherwise, Get the EVO. Winmo is dead. IMO winmo7 won't change that, but it has a better chance than winmo6 ever did.

mrono said:
Microsoft KIN
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What about it??

gbm85 said:
What about it??
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It's a joke.

wm sucks so hard!

winmos sucks lol

There was a time I thought I would never leave WinMo. Then I tried an Android and holy cow, it was like night and day. Not only is Android a super sexy OS, but it also does absolutely everything I wanted in WinMo.
I admin Windows Servers so I had to have a device with a Remote Desktop client. Not only are there plenty available for Android, but they are way better than the WinMo version....go figure!
On top of that, compare the $30-$50 you would spend on WinMo software with the $2-$20 costs of the same stuff in the Android Marketplace.
There really is no comparison at all.

Windows 6.5.X ROM ?

the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!

Have you ever thought of searching it?

eazy2001x said:
the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!
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So you want to downgrade the Epic by installing WM6.5 on it? Just wait until the 7 Pro comes out, for the sake of sanity..please?

eazy2001x said:
the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!
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SWITCH, you won't regret it

amosher13 said:
SWITCH, you won't regret it
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x2, there are several WM converts on here that can assist you if you are looking for specific functions..Android has everything, just about.

mekeke said:
Have you ever thought of searching it?
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Yes i did..
scriz said:
So you want to downgrade the Epic by installing WM6.5 on it? Just wait until the 7 Pro comes out, for the sake of sanity..please?
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I want no part of WM7
and to everyone else.. I just cant make the switch.. :-(

I switched from a TP2, and if you search my name you can see how I went from all WM to several Android phones, and I went back in the Rhodium forums and had discussions about WP7, WM6.5, and Android compared.
I had no intention of switching. I had no interest in WP7. I loaded Android ROMS onto my Rhodium for fun. In our discussions I decided all hardcore WM fans shoudl naturally migrate to Android. The reason is because WP7 is not the XDA Windows that WM was. However Android is. It is like WM in that you can customize everything. It is unlike it only in the fact that we customize here more out of fun than need, because Android is way more inherantly stable. However everything from the dialer, to the lockscreen, to the homescreen, is natively customizable. You just download, install, and hit the 'default' check.
I would suggest you load an Android rom on your Rhodium and check it out.
BTW... I ended up with an Epic 4g bc it was most similar to the Rhodium, however HTC has done amazing work with Sense on Android. It's not a cover on Android, its its own system.

eazy2001x said:
Yes i did..
I want no part of WM7
and to everyone else.. I just cant make the switch.. :-(
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After making the switch to Android from the TP2, holy crap is WinMo garbage. Android is so much ridiculously better.

eazy2001x said:
I want no part of WM7
and to everyone else.. I just cant make the switch.. :-(
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Why so resistant to change? Do you miss the days of the telegraph? Do you wish you could drive a Model T? Flawed logic and resistance to advancement and change is just ludicrous. You may have liked WinMo 6.5, but it's a dead OS. Either go Android, WP7, or just get a plain non-smartphone ffs.

It's easy to find the ROM.
The real question is how are you going to install with your Windows 3.1 computer?

So the answer to my question is?? There is no WM 6.5.X rom?

no. there is not.

Hey, don't be so tough on the guy. I can see where he's coming from...
I was a Windows mobile guy myself (going back before it was put on a phone), and it wasn't easy to just give it up. What got me to switch... was playing with Android before even thinking of making a purchase.
I played around with the Android SDK Virtual for a few days (which I quickly realized was gimped until you start adding the Market and all the apps), but even with just the very basic shell, it was completely functional - moreso than WM.
So, my suggestion is to play with Virtual machine on your PC, or find a friend who will let you fiddle around with their phone. I'm pretty sure you will quickly change your mind.

I had to read this thread. My first thought when I saw the title was that it was a joke. I had come to the conclusion that I would keep my TP2 forever with the Energy roms on it... now it's a whole new world out there and I'm looking forward to all the developers here providing all the "play with" fun I can handle and not just making my phone work. The Epic is wonderful hardware...why hold it back?

Wait.. this was a serious post?.. dude trust me i came from a touch pro 2.. i flashed pretty much every single rom that was made for it an none of them come close to being as good as the epic stock.. i hve no doubt in my min you wont regret the switch
Tapatalkin' it from my EPIC 4g

eazy2001x said:
the only way i will get this phone is if there is a Windows 6.5.X rom for it. Does anyone know where i can get a custom ROM from? I want to upgrade from my Touch pro 2 and dont want to switch over to droid!
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While we are asking silly questions, is there anyone that can port a Rom of Windows Me for the Epic, so I can take a great OS and replace it for a giant steaming pile of crap.

There isn't one, and I don't think it's going to happen.
Windows Mobile is just dead. Microsoft killed it when they decided to ditch it for WP7.
It may be possible someone can get WP7 to run WM programs in some of compatibility layer similar to wine for unix. Of course in that same token, ARM is ARM, it should be similarly possible to get WM running in a virtual machine on Android, but a lot less likely. Mostly because, even though WP7 isn't WM, it is in fact still running on Windows CE.
So hypothetically it could be as simple as copying over some dll's from WM. It'll probably be a lot harder than that, and quite possibly too hard for the dev community that's left clinging to WM.
Unlike some people here, I have a lot of respect for your position. WM is an OS written for a handheld computer that had a phone added to it as an afterthought. I liked this, because I used it on PDA's before that. I even remember telling people, "one day your PDA, cell phone, and music player will all be the same thing".
While I'm just being silly, I tell you what I'd really like to see, and that's a netbook with a "snap in" (a piece of hardware) handset. We're already carrying around 5" devices, let's go on up to a netbook size, but have the phone part detachable. At this point I almost feel silly carrying around a laptop AND a smartphone, because there's so much redundancy. I'll just put the netbook in a manpurse and be done with it.
So anyway, back on topic, no there's not a WM ROM for the Epic, and I seriously doubt there will ever be. The reason simply boils down to drivers. There won't ever been any drivers written for Galaxy S hardware for WM, and writing drivers is really tough stuff. There probably aren't even that many people who know how to write WM drivers from scratch, let alone in the dev community. And it would take so many man hours you'd really need a team to do it before the hardware reached obsolescence.
You really have three options at this point. The first is to wean yourself off WM. Android really, really is linux running on a phone, with a pretty GUI. The GUI is so good that, until you really dig down into it, it's hard to realize that. Think about what you like about WM, and then see if you can get the same functionality out of Android. Almost everyone does if they give it an honest try.
The second is to see what Microsoft is going to offer you in terms of continued support for WM. There's some talk about them separating consumer mobile Windows (WP7S) from business mobile Windows. Motorola did the ES400, and more might follow. But that could be a tougher pill to swallow than swapping platforms. (More info here.)
The third is rely on the dev community to get virtualization or a compatibility layer for WP7 going, and hopefully mod the UI.
That's really it. I wish you the best. I decided like a lot of people here to swithch to Android, and I haven't regretted it one bit. The Epic is an amazing device. There's an Android learning curve, but it's really not that bad.

thank you for your reply.. Ill just wait it out for the next big thing like the TP3 and hope that it comes out W/O Win7. also thank you to anyone who gave me a simple answer to my question.. "NO"..

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Ill just wait it out for the next big thing like the TP3 and hope that it comes out W/O Win7.
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Never buying a new phone again eh?

I just stumbled on this thread... HA. I came from the mogul->tp->tp2 and I am so glad I am rid of windows mobile. My wife has my old tp2, and I hate working on it now. Roms w/ android are just better all around.
Anything wimo can do android can do better.

[Q] Gingerbread on Focus?

I was just curious if anyone has any thoughts on Gingerbread on a Samsung Focus? I read that the Nexus S with the recent Gingerbread installed is the identical phone. I am very happy with Phone 7 and have no intentions of switching but the possibility could give us all much more value with the Focus. The thought of Gingerbread on this phone may also add to the longevity and a market value if someone wanted to sell it before their contract is up. I love phone 7 and hope they start some regular updates to make the phone even better.

Yep.. it's called the captivate LOL and probably not because it's a 3 button phone, kinda why HD2's and other window mobile phones are not upgradable

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Yep.. it's called the captivate LOL and probably not because it's a 3 button phone, kinda why HD2's and other window mobile phones are not upgradable
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on a side note.... the HD2 is upgradable... they've successfully put windows 7 on it. The only catch so far is it doesn't have the correct licencing so it isn't able to have working live tiles or the marketplace. But none the less.... its on there working.
I dont think anyones been working on Android on our phones yet. First thing's first is to get WP7 cracked open totally then they can do their magic. That's still a ways off though.

If you want android on a phone, how about you buy an android phone and not clutter wp7 areas.

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on a side note.... the HD2 is upgradable... they've successfully put windows 7 on it. The only catch so far is it doesn't have the correct licencing so it isn't able to have working live tiles or the marketplace. But none the less.... its on there working.
I dont think anyones been working on Android on our phones yet. First thing's first is to get WP7 cracked open totally then they can do their magic. That's still a ways off though.
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last time I check the gps, camera, and... something else didn't work but to add live tiles not working on top of that... what's the sense?

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last time I check the gps, camera, and... something else didn't work but to add live tiles not working on top of that... what's the sense?
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well work in progress...considering they said WM7 wouldn't be able to run at all on any other devices Id say its a pretty huge step. Probably the only WM phone that can do it and do it well. Android still doesn't work fully on my touch pro 2 but I kept that phone just for that reason that one day it WILL be able to run it.
the HD2 can run android (almost full), WM 6.1/6.5, WM7 and I think they were saying they're starting to work on getting webos on it too so, pretty stellar phone I would say!
Still, like I said, I think android running on our phones is still a long ways a way. They only just recently cracked one of the HTC WP7's to be able to run other roms. Big step for sure but still a far cry from running an entirely different OS

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well work in progress...considering they said WM7 wouldn't be able to run at all on any other devices Id say its a pretty huge step. Probably the only WM phone that can do it and do it well. Android still doesn't work fully on my touch pro 2 but I kept that phone just for that reason that one day it WILL be able to run it.
the HD2 can run android (almost full), WM 6.1/6.5, WM7 and I think they were saying they're starting to work on getting webos on it too so, pretty stellar phone I would say!
Still, like I said, I think android running on our phones is still a long ways a way. They only just recently cracked one of the HTC WP7's to be able to run other roms. Big step for sure but still a far cry from running an entirely different OS
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Yeah well considering I use the GPS, and camera a lot, and live tiles now that I have it. I wouldn't consider that close lol That 4.3 screen is just awesome for TomTom. I'd rather use my HD2 as an android device before a windows phone 7. Web OS might be interesting though... aah so little time some many possibilites. Another problem is the Focus is only a 3 button phone, I duno if you can rework Android to work on 3 instead of 4.

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If you want android on a phone, how about you buy an android phone and mot clutter wp7 areas.
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Thanks for the useless comment. This is a legitimate question. Not all of us want to spend the money on every different devices. I'd like to be able to run android for testing on the Focus if it was possible. Nothing wrong with that question.

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Thanks for the useless comment. This is a legitimate question. Not all of us want to spend the money on every different devices. I'd like to be able to run android for testing on the Focus if it was possible. Nothing wrong with that question.
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Then post the useless inquiry the android section and waste their space

TJMJT said:
I was just curious if anyone has any thoughts on Gingerbread on a Samsung Focus? I read that the Nexus S with the recent Gingerbread installed is the identical phone. I am very happy with Phone 7 and have no intentions of switching but the possibility could give us all much more value with the Focus. The thought of Gingerbread on this phone may also add to the longevity and a market value if someone wanted to sell it before their contract is up. I love phone 7 and hope they start some regular updates to make the phone even better.
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lol.........................

thank you hvbelton! as i read... it is what i was thinking... then again... so thank you!