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Opera Mobile: tweaks needed

Opera Mobile is a great browser, but I don't think it does so well on the X1.
In landscape mode, the software keyboard should be completely disabled. This would be much less annoying and would also allow interaction with embedded Flash / Flash websites.
Opera also often makes the L and R buttons activate the start menu, rather than their assignments.
EDIT: And if you're typing into Opera's own search box with the hardware keyboard, it doesn't recognise that you are typing and times out - taking the search dialogue away.
Does anyone know if these things can be fixed? I wouldn't mind disabling the keyboard in landscape mode at the OS level (to affect everything), but it's too useful in portrait to disable altogether.
Thanks

Yes i agree about the software keyboard. That is the most annoying thing on the planet it comes up even when ur not in a text input area. I would love to see a tweak to stop this.

"Disabling" the on screen keyboard...
Try this SIP.
It is an onscreenkeyboard but in fact it displays NO keyboard.
You can change it back to a "normal" keyboard via the normal SIP menü in the bottom middle of the screen.
Better than nothing, I guess..
Greets !
PS: I found this cab in an Opera 9.5 thread around here.

there is a registry tweak somewhere on here, ill try search for it now

Has anyone noticed that the opera that comes on the xperia only lets you go to mobile sites no matter what the setting in the settings tab indicates?

that not opera but the websites you are visiting.

I don't think so because these webpages have full verisons and its determined by the browser u are using. For instance if i switch to the build from the touch hd i can go to the same webpages and view them as full pages but the one on the xperia will automatically go to the mobile versions. I started up a new thread to discuss this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443583

Bxsteez said:
I don't think so because these webpages have full verisons and its determined by the browser u are using. For instance if i switch to the build from the touch hd i can go to the same webpages and view them as full pages but the one on the xperia will automatically go to the mobile versions. I started up a new thread to discuss this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443583
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The webpage you visit is informed of the user agent. Most websites use useragent checks to determine which version to show you. I should know I design websites.
Most likely (but unconfirmed without a test) is that the Xperia build has "Sony Ericsson" in it useragent.

I had the same problem, i was trying to view the full desktop version of youtube.com but it kept redeirecting me to the mobile version, even when i clicked the link at the bottom of the mobile site that said 'View desktop version'. I tried everything to stop it from happening i.e changing user agent settings in registry and opera, but it kept on occuring.
For a reason not connected with my problem I got a new Xperia X1 and now I dont have that problem anymore!

artesea said:
The webpage you visit is informed of the user agent. Most websites use useragent checks to determine which version to show you. I should know I design websites.
Most likely (but unconfirmed without a test) is that the Xperia build has "Sony Ericsson" in it useragent.
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So most likely it has to do with an opera setting. Can anyone post there opera.ini file. I tried to change the user agent based on opera's definitions.
http://www.opera.com/support/usingopera/operaini/
I still can't seem to fix this issue

artesea said:
that not opera but the websites you are visiting.
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I'm starting to think you were right. When i go to like facebook it goes into full desktop version but utube and myspace go into mobile view. I wish i knew more sites with a mobile view lol..

Bxsteez said:
I'm starting to think you were right. When i go to like facebook it goes into full desktop version but utube and myspace go into mobile view. I wish i knew more sites with a mobile view lol..
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He is right. Go to a site like IPChicken.com and look at the Browser string under the 'Advanced' section and you'll see what Opera is reporting to each site you visit. Opera has a way to 'spoof' the User Agent to be like Firefox or IE 6 for example. Type in: about:config in the address bar, and scroll all the way down to User Agent and try 2 and 3 (Firefox & IE, respectively).

d0ubl3_d1zzl3 said:
He is right. Go to a site like IPChicken.com and look at the Browser string under the 'Advanced' section and you'll see what Opera is reporting to each site you visit. Opera has a way to 'spoof' the User Agent to be like Firefox or IE 6 for example. Type in: about:config in the address bar, and scroll all the way down to User Agent and try 2 and 3 (Firefox & IE, respectively).
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Thank You!!!! That fixed my problem. I'm going to post in the thread i made for this problem. If you don't mind that is

zooming by dpad is a good thing.
for scrolling, the finger cam is perfect.
and scrolling by g-sensor would be a good thing
(i hope the x1 will have one, like ohter htc devs)

DOMin8or said:
zooming by dpad is a good thing.
for scrolling, the finger cam is perfect.
and scrolling by g-sensor would be a good thing
(i hope the x1 will have one, like ohter htc devs)
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Zooming with the dpad is what I miss most from my touch pro. It's scroll wheel works very well for dynamic zoom but it would be nice to try something similar with the xperia optical stick.

one thing that i would like to change in opera is that new tabs open up in the background, is there a way to do this?

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He is right. Go to a site like IPChicken.com and look at the Browser string under the 'Advanced' section and you'll see what Opera is reporting to each site you visit. Opera has a way to 'spoof' the User Agent to be like Firefox or IE 6 for example. Type in: about:config in the address bar, and scroll all the way down to User Agent and try 2 and 3 (Firefox & IE, respectively).
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i've updated the user agent in opera but i'm still being directed to mobile versions of sites. anyone else having this problem ? any ideas ?
thanks in advance ...

are you surfing over Wifi or your mobile networks connect. Website use a series of tricks to workout which version of their site they think is best for your device.
Almost all of these sites however should provide a link which allows you to visit the full site, which you may need to bookmark to aviod repeating the steps each time.

artesea said:
are you surfing over Wifi or your mobile networks connect. Website use a series of tricks to workout which version of their site they think is best for your device.
Almost all of these sites however should provide a link which allows you to visit the full site, which you may need to bookmark to aviod repeating the steps each time.
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i'm surfing over my provider's network. this wasn't an issue when i was using the non-bundled version of opera. most of the websites i have gone to either don't do browser sniffing or have used the user agent rather which has meant that i've been browsing the full sites.
since switching to the bundled version of opera i'm not constantly getting the mobile versions ...

sevans21 said:
Zooming with the dpad is what I miss most from my touch pro. It's scroll wheel works very well for dynamic zoom but it would be nice to try something similar with the xperia optical stick.
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Well you know the volume buttons do zoom in and out, right?
It's not as convenient as on the Diamond/Touch Pro, but does the trick.

opera

well maybe a stupid question but i cant find the answer anywhere.
when i go to certain websites it redirects me to the mobile version of the website.
my touch diamond never redirected me.
it seems like the tp2 is identifying itself as a mobile device instead of a normal computer.
is there any way to change this?

I don't realy remember but in SKtools (or Advanced config) there is an option how IE identifies the device, anyway it is registry option

type "opera:config" to the address bar and open
then change the "User Agent" to a normal browser like IE, you can search for the "IE UA String" using Google
for example:"compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1"

i tried it but it keeps sending me to the mobile version of the websites.
i deleted the cookies and the history, changed it to "2" restarted my tp2 but still no difference.
i wonder if its possible at all....

Welcome to the forum
Strange issue....
Have you tried go to settings-advanced and select recognize as PC instead as handheld?
It´s working for me
Have a look here so you can choose the best Opera version for you:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=486502

I noticed that if you use the search hole on the Touch Flo web tab it will send you to google which in turn sends you to google re-formatted mobile versions of web pages. If you look at the bottom of the page there is a link to view the full page.

opera 10
Well if you use the opera that comes with the phone yes thats a problem but opera beta3 final is the one to use.

opera mobile websites

im facing problems with the new opera.
if I open google.com for example it shows me a mobile version. I know that you can enable the classic view when I use a given link. when visiting the website the next time its 'mobile' again!
is there a way to disable the mobile websites in general? I know that my blackstone with old opera don't opens mobile websites.

go in the opera settings and untick mobile view

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Unticking Mobile view does nothing (espesically if its already unticked )
I've tried changing the settings in opera:config for UA (changed 1 to 2 and 3) but no luck, so I would like to know this too

In opera:config go to user prefs. Look for one called UAProf URL Enabled. Untick that.
That should make you browse as a non-mobile device.
Hope it helps

i am sorry but it don't seems to 'fix' it. maybee its just me?

Opera10 Help

Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.

John Wagner III said:
Sorry I have to ask this, but I am no where near as savvy with a Windows Mobile device as most of you guys are, but maybe you can help? Just installed Opera10 on my HD2 "T-Mobile US," and for some reason it always defaults to "mobile' sites. Example, I type in youtube.com, but I go to m.youtube.com is there anyway to get to the actual youtube, I know it's possible I've seen it video. Please any help would be greatly appreciated.
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I don't use Opera 10, but I know the m.youtube problem is also present in Opera 9.7. In the m.youtube homepage, you should see a "Show Full Version" (something like that) at the very bottom of the page.
Just a thought: Do you have anything in the Opera 10 Settings/Menu page that says "View Mobile pages"? If so, make sure that is unchecked.

I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.

At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.

hagba said:
At rhe bottom of the page there are two options Mobile and Desktop,chose the Desktop and bookmark it.
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There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"

John Wagner III said:
I have both Opera browsers on the HD2. Not sure what opera version is the default, but I have no issues with getting the mobile sites. The default Opera will go to the real sites "non-mobile." I decided to get Opera 10 because a saw a video of it installed and you could enable flash, show I can watch "real' youtube videos. I really want flash so I can watch TV from fancast.com. I didn't see and full version option, but there is a check box for "mobile view;" checked off or on there is no difference.
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opera 10 doesn't play flash any better than opera 9.7. Youtube and a select few other videos can be watched, but something like fancast will probably require skyfire.

Opera 10 issue
I have recently had a problem with Opera 10. I no always get an error message stating 'could not find proxy server' or 'the url address is busy' etc. Reverting to opera mobile 9.7 removed this problem. Something to consider.
(If anyone knows how to fix this I'd be chuffed. I don't want to hi-jack the thread).
Desmac

John Wagner III said:
There is no desktop setting, only mobile and fullscreen. I have the mobile setting turned off, and still getting only "mobile sites"
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Facebook started doing that to me - I don't want to use m.facebook, but it's quite hard (even with bookmarks) to stay on the full web site.
It was working fine - and I didn't change my version of the browser - so I assume facebook themselves changed something, but it must still be something to do with the way opera mobile identifies itself with a web site.
And certainly don't want to use the Microsoft fb app - what a stunning demonstration of how not to write an app that was

The User-Agent field in the http request is identifying your device as a mobile so the web site is serving it's mobile version. The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..

Airborne Aircrew said:
The are ways to edit the User-Agent string to fool the web site into providing the full version straight off..
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Apparently (I haven't tried it myself yet)
In the address bar, type in
about:config
scroll down on the page to item User Agent and click on it.
It says Spoof user agent ID
Change it to one of the following numbers:
1 is Opera Mobile
2 is Firefox
3 is desktop IE 6

[Q] Using skyfire and have a problem

Then enter a site name its loads threw google in wml form , detached to many pages (like old wap phones) i already turned on desktop view of pages but nothing changed. How to disable this loading threw google on skyfire, stock browser has simmilar program. i am using android 2,1 on xperia x10 thank you for help please help.

maybe it's the site that doesn't have a mobile version

If you're clicking the little icon to right of the search results, that looks like 3 dots with a magnifying glass on the middle one, then this opens to a snapshot of the actual site for all of the results...
Click the actual link instead like you would on a desktop version of google...